RECORDNEWS — broadcast 20261004 153000 UTC 518 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] And candidate Flávio Bolsonaro of the PL has already voted in Rio de [00:00:04] Janeiro. The vote took place at the Barão Homem [00:00:08] de Melo municipal school in the Vila Isabel neighborhood, in the North Zone. Afterwards, the [00:00:12] candidate accompanied his wife's vote. Flávio Bolsonaro is heading [00:00:15] to Brasília, where he will follow the vote [00:00:19] count. Our polls already show that we [00:00:22] have surpassed the first round some time ago. Our [00:00:26] tracks also show an upward trend of... [00:00:30] the intelligent vote, the vote of revolt, people who [00:00:34] would vote for other candidates who are also against [00:00:37] Lula, are already voting for Flávio Bolsonaro in the first round, so it's a very [00:00:40] clear movement that we see in our internal polls and that I hope [00:00:44] will be enough to give us victory in the [00:00:48] first round. I truly hope that [00:00:51] Brazil will choose its president today definitively [00:00:54] with 50% plus one of the votes, at least for Flávio [00:00:58] Bolsonaro, the voters. May God enlighten everyone, may [00:01:02] people be able to leave home peacefully and vote [00:01:05] and change their country for the better. Brazil needs [00:01:08] change, Brazil can't take any more suffering, so many [00:01:12] high taxes, so many dead women, [00:01:15] so many, so much political persecution. Brazil [00:01:19] needs to undertake, Brazil needs to grow. The [00:01:22] presidential candidate for Missão, Renan Santos, voted this morning. [00:01:26] The vote took place in a state school in the South Zone of São [00:01:29] Paulo. From 5 PM, the candidate should follow [00:01:32] the counting at the party headquarters. It is expected that after the [00:01:35] counting, he will participate in a press conference also in the South [00:01:39] Zone of the state capital. [00:01:44] To what extent does rejection really The presidential candidate Ronaldo Caiado of the PSD voted [00:01:47] of president, given that around 10:20 AM in Goiás. The vote was at the Zizi Pirilo [00:01:51] Caiado State College in the municipality of Nova Cristás. He arrived [00:01:54] accompanied by Vice Candidate Gilberto Cassabi. Caiado [00:01:58] will follow the vote count at the Palácio das Esmeraldas, [00:02:01] the seat of the state government in [00:02:04] Goiânia. [00:02:06] Presidential candidate Romeu Zema voted around 9 AM in [00:02:10] Minas Gerais. Romeu Zema of the Novo Party voted at the Delfim Moreira [00:02:13] state school in Araxá, the city where the candidate was born in the Mineiro [00:02:17] Triangle. Zema will follow the vote count in a bar [00:02:21] in the city of Belo Horizonte, a little over 360 [00:02:24] km from the polling place. I brought [00:02:27] my proposals [00:02:30] from the Novo party to all of Brazil. I was [00:02:34] certainly the candidate who worked the most and must [00:02:37] have run perhaps the most economical campaign, with [00:02:41] all certainty, also because our resources are limited. [00:02:44] I want to prove also, unlike what most [00:02:48] politicians do, that it's not money that [00:02:51] makes you win an election, because politicians in Brazil [00:02:55] became addicted to money, just like [00:02:58] drug addicts are addicted to cocaine, thinking that only money [00:03:01] solves things. It's not good proposals, it's not [00:03:05] work, it's not seriousness, it's not good [00:03:08] projects. So we showed here, because I won both [00:03:11] elections running a modest [00:03:14] campaign, a simple campaign, but [00:03:17] which the Mineiro saw yielded results. Minas [00:03:20] until I was elected was always a [00:03:23] state from which the Mineiro would leave to go to Rio, [00:03:27] to go to São Paulo, to go to the Midwest. [00:03:31] The writer Augusto Cury also already voted. The Avante [00:03:34] candidate voted around 11 AM at Colonel [00:03:38] and we have the José Venancio Dias school. The school is in the municipality of Colina [00:03:41] where Cury was born in the interior of São Paulo. He was accompanied [00:03:45] by his wife and nephew. Cury will follow the count at [00:03:49] home in the city of Ribeirão Preto. In my [00:03:52] clear opinion, if I were president, I would provoke the [00:03:56] congress to reduce, to end this lifetime tenure. [00:04:08] serving the Brazilian nation, any nation, but it's [00:04:11] unbelievable when people re-elect themselves, one, two, three [00:04:15] times, use money to create social programs, [00:04:19] they forget that you have to free those who are [00:04:22] beneficiaries of social programs, that's why anyone who [00:04:26] signs a work card in my government and receives Bolsa Família... [00:04:47] It is the most remarkable and excellent project to transform Brazil into [00:04:50] a middle-class society. We just [00:04:54] reiterate that it is not allowed to vote with a cell phone in hand, as [00:04:58] the candidate did. [00:05:00] We continue analyzing here, counting on Eduardo Breciani. [00:05:04] Eduardo, this cell phone issue is important, because nowadays everyone [00:05:08] walks around with a cell phone in hand. There are many numbers to [00:05:11] note. It should be the traditional one on paper, even to [00:05:15] avoid these queues that we just saw, which are long, [00:05:19] some reaching 2 [00:05:20] hours. [00:05:26] Exactly, the cheat sheet is very important and it has to [00:05:29] be done by hand. The candidate Romeuzema made [00:05:33] a mistake there by bringing his cell phone. It wasn't noticed by the [00:05:36] polling station attendant. It was a note from the attendant, it was even funny that he [00:05:40] couldn't enter. We've seen other cases throughout the day today. [00:05:44] No cell phones allowed, no smart glasses either, all [00:05:47] these devices that [00:05:50] can violate the secrecy of the vote, right? I think explaining a little [00:05:54] about this prohibition is important. You [00:05:57] cannot enter with any equipment that records your vote, a photographic [00:06:00] camera, a cell phone, or even glasses that make this type of [00:06:04] recording, because the vote is secret, it is the moment when the voter [00:06:08] is alone and it must be preserved, so this error [00:06:11] that the candidate made, it's always important to [00:06:14] call attention to it. I also wanted to take the opportunity, I think it's an [00:06:18] important moment for us to make an assessment, right? As the candidates [00:06:22] did about what [00:06:24] this campaign was like, right? I think we saw a campaign with a degree of [00:06:28] mobilization below what we registered in previous [00:06:31] campaigns, right? And we are seeing in this final stretch a [00:06:35] movement of vote migration that is very interesting [00:06:39] and also historical, right? If we look at previous [00:06:43] elections, it's somewhat natural when you have two leaders [00:06:46] far ahead, as is the case of President Lula and Senator Flávio [00:06:50] Bolsonaro, that other candidates end up losing votes [00:06:53] in this final stretch to those who are ahead. We have observed [00:06:57] this in previous elections. This happened very [00:07:00] significantly also in 2018 and apparently this [00:07:04] starts to happen again based on what we observe from the latest polls. [00:07:07] So it's a campaign in which the voter did not participate very [00:07:11] actively, there wasn't a very large mobilization and in this final stretch [00:07:14] we are seeing a movement that is somewhat of what has [00:07:18] become known as the useful vote, of looking for those [00:07:21] candidates who are already ahead and choosing one of [00:07:24] them. So, in short, we have 12 presidential candidates, right? We [00:07:27] brought here the vote of those who have representation in congress, but [00:07:31] in the end, the voter ended up narrowing the election to [00:07:34] only two, who are President Lula and Senator Flávio [00:07:38] Bolsonaro, who according to today's scenario would go to a second [00:07:42] round. Talking still about this [00:07:44] reduction in voter mobilization, [00:07:47] this was a first-round campaign, [00:07:51] practically without debates. In 20 years, it's the first time there hasn't been [00:07:55] a debate, there hasn't been a confrontation [00:07:58] between the first and second placed candidates in a debate, [00:08:02] last-minute judicial decisions, cancellations, candidates not [00:08:05] participating in the debates. How did this end up [00:08:08] affecting the voter's view, the voter's [00:08:12] choice in today's [00:08:14] election? [00:08:19] Look, Renato, it's certainly an important factor in this [00:08:22] demobilization that we talked about, right? We know the weight of [00:08:26] street campaigning, internet campaigning, [00:08:29] but there has always been a habit of following the debates to [00:08:33] see this direct clash of ideas between the [00:08:36] candidates, and communication outlets, as they always [00:08:39] do, tried to organize these events [00:08:43] and the candidates who lead the polls did not [00:08:47] participate, right? Record itself tried to organize a [00:08:50] debate here and given the signal that the two [00:08:53] candidates leading the polls would not participate, it had to cancel. [00:08:56] It happened with other broadcasters, in short, I think the press tried to fulfill [00:09:00] its duty to show the ideas and [00:09:04] proposals in a confrontation between the candidates, but [00:09:07] unfortunately we had a very complicated moment [00:09:10] of a stance from the [00:09:12] candidates of just wanting to state their ideas without [00:09:15] opposing them, without having an adversary to [00:09:19] oppose their ideas, this is very negative, [00:09:22] right? From the point of view of mobilizing [00:09:25] people, of political awareness, [00:09:28] so it's a service that the [00:09:31] candidates provided in a very negative way by not [00:09:34] attending the debates, and you also mentioned, Renato, the issue of [00:09:38] judicial disputes, right? We saw in this last week [00:09:42] some preliminary injunctions interfering, like this candidate has [00:09:45] to participate, this candidate cannot participate, if the candidate [00:09:49] goes, there can't be this or that, if the candidate doesn't go. So I think [00:09:53] we ended up having a discussion that wasn't the discussion we [00:09:57] need to have, what is each one's proposal, what does the other [00:10:00] counteract so that we can have each voter analyze and make [00:10:04] their decision in a more balanced way. So I think all [00:10:07] this demobilization does have this participation of this absence [00:10:11] of debates. You mentioned the issue of political [00:10:15] awareness, of the voter making a more balanced [00:10:19] decision. In what way does this polarization often [00:10:22] not contribute to this? [00:10:30] Look, when we look at some poll data, we [00:10:33] see how the profile has changed in the country, [00:10:36] right? When you look at the history of presidential approval, for [00:10:39] example, up to 10 years ago, you [00:10:43] had a margin of more or less 40% of voters who [00:10:46] rated it as regular, today that is generally below [00:10:50] 20%. Today the voter either likes or dislikes, and this [00:10:54] took away some of this debate of liking [00:10:58] what, not liking what. We started to be either all or nothing and this [00:11:01] is very negative, right? I think we lost, throughout [00:11:05] this increase in polarization, the ability [00:11:09] to evaluate individual policies, right? I think this is [00:11:12] a point that we need to debate, [00:11:15] right? To understand how we can debate proposals and [00:11:19] projects, not just vote against one [00:11:23] or against the other. When we look at the two candidates who lead the polls [00:11:26] and are above 40% in most [00:11:29] polls, they are also close to 50% rejection, [00:11:33] both of them. So this polarization is [00:11:36] evident on this side, it's either one side or the other. We [00:11:40] lost a bit of the debate about what the proposals are, what will [00:11:44] be done by each candidate? [00:11:46] Speaking of rejection, the last Realtime Big Data poll [00:11:50] showed a rejection of 49% for Lula, [00:11:53] 49% for Flávio Bolsonaro. In [00:11:56] other elections, in other cases, in other situations, a [00:12:00] percentage like that could almost prevent someone from being elected, but we are [00:12:03] seeing the top two candidates with high rejections. [00:12:09] weigh on the choice [00:12:12] the rejection is high for [00:12:13] both? [00:12:18] Exactly, Renato, if we look at historical political [00:12:21] manuals, we always find that a candidate [00:12:25] with a certain level of rejection does not get elected, and this [00:12:28] election will certainly prove us wrong, because the two [00:12:31] candidates who will reach the second round, [00:12:34] apparently in a very close, tied [00:12:38] dispute between the two, according to what the polls tell us, are [00:12:41] also tied in a rejection that reaches almost half of the [00:12:45] electorate. So it is a very interesting fact to [00:12:48] see how this rejection profile has changed, [00:12:52] right? I think before we had a slightly more [00:12:56] tolerant view, so to speak. Those who voted on one side had a slightly more [00:12:59] tolerant view of trying to evaluate the other side. Today we are [00:13:03] in a very different situation in this regard, so it will be [00:13:06] interesting to understand how this president [00:13:10] who comes out of the polls, whether this Sunday or in the [00:13:13] second round, right, in three weeks, how the ex-president [00:13:17] will be able to govern at the moment when he wins an election, but in [00:13:21] theory he will have half the country against him. We know how this is [00:13:24] a very difficult situation, right? Bringing up what we talked [00:13:28] about a little earlier, it reinforces the importance of the election for congress. The [00:13:32] congress is an important factor so that the president can implement his [00:13:36] proposals, so this rejection also creates a [00:13:39] difficulty for the government later when we [00:13:43] have the president leaving the polls with almost 50% of the [00:13:47] population rejecting him. It's not just that they didn't vote for him, they [00:13:50] reject him. It's a fact that makes governability quite difficult for [00:13:54] the next ones. An update is coming here for us, [00:13:57] look, Lula also won in Saudi Arabia, [00:14:01] Egypt, Estonia, while Flávio Bolsonaro won in [00:14:04] Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Finland and [00:14:08] Taiwan. We are here on this live coverage, we continue [00:14:11] updating everything for those who follow Record News, stay tuned to Record News. [00:14:15] Well, still on this polarization topic, I think it's interesting [00:14:18] to observe the role of social media, right? Because we [00:14:22] have been facing several difficulties regarding [00:14:25] disinformation on social media. It's not new, not just in this campaign. Brazil adopted [00:14:29] some mechanisms to try to bring order in this regard, to bring more [00:14:33] information security, but even so we know the size of the [00:14:36] challenge, Breciani, do you think this is one of the points, right, that [00:14:40] led the voter to be either all or nothing, to [00:14:44] vote against, to have this deeply rooted [00:14:46] polarization? [00:14:52] I believe there is indeed a role [00:14:56] of social media. I think it polarizes a lot, [00:15:00] right? The more controversial opinions are the ones that prevail. When [00:15:03] someone preaches balance, they usually don't get many likes, [00:15:07] they don't get much, much space, and when someone [00:15:10] attacks the other or takes a more [00:15:13] aggressive stance, they usually get more engagement. So I think [00:15:17] this is a point for us to understand, right? This [00:15:20] interference we have from social [00:15:23] media in positioning. You brought up the point of [00:15:27] disinformation, I think this is a very interesting question for [00:15:31] us to look at, always guiding [00:15:34] people to be careful with the information they receive. [00:15:38] To check, to try to inform themselves a little more, to try to understand [00:15:42] where that information came from. We also have today [00:15:45] generative artificial intelligence which is another [00:15:49] factor that also weighs on this. So I think we really [00:15:52] need to have what we talked about earlier, political awareness, for [00:15:56] everyone to really try to understand better the information they [00:16:00] received, what is the source, is it a reliable source, what is the [00:16:04] consequence of this, right? So I think it's a [00:16:07] process that we need to be doing as a [00:16:11] society. Speaking of Congress and [00:16:14] this probable difficulty that whoever [00:16:18] wins with such high rejection will have in dealing with Congress, [00:16:22] I wanted to go back to the topic of proportional election [00:16:26] which is also a topic that creates a lot of confusion, causes many [00:16:29] doubts. It's good for us to explain, right, that the vote for [00:16:32] state deputy, for federal deputy, district deputy is not that vote, it's [00:16:36] not the majority vote, it's not the most [00:16:40] voted ones who are elected, right? It will depend on the party, [00:16:43] it depends on the federation, there's an electoral quotient, [00:16:47] there's a barrier to avoid vote pullers. It's important for the voter to be aware of this, [00:16:51] right? That the vote doesn't go exactly to that candidate, [00:16:54] but first to the party, then to the [00:16:58] party and federation, then there are barriers. It's good for the [00:17:01] voter to vote aware of this, [00:17:03] right? [00:17:08] Exactly, Renato, it's very important for us to do this [00:17:11] clarification and for people to understand a little about the [00:17:15] weight of this vote. I was even observing when I went to [00:17:19] vote earlier today, right, the first two numbers you dial, the [00:17:23] party's name appears. Many times people don't understand that at that moment you are already [00:17:26] giving your vote to the party, and the seats [00:17:29] in the chamber, in the legislative assemblies or here [00:17:32] in Brasília in the district chamber, they are [00:17:36] divided by parties, among the most [00:17:40] voted parties, those who got the most votes occupy the [00:17:43] seats. So many times people vote without observing [00:17:47] the party, what we always comment, right? They vote for one, [00:17:51] elect another, then feel that their vote did not [00:17:55] have the desired effect, so having this [00:17:57] awareness about this is very important, and you brought up a [00:18:01] point which is the barrier clause, right? We had it [00:18:05] approved 8 years ago, it is [00:18:08] in effect in this election, it becomes more [00:18:12] rigorous, parties need to reach an even greater percentage [00:18:16] to have access to several party rights, so this [00:18:19] also tends to make it so that we saw this year, in [00:18:23] many states, you had only two, three candidates from [00:18:26] large parties, the parties preferred to invest more [00:18:30] in these candidacies for federal deputy, [00:18:34] especially, which is how these barrier clauses are counted. [00:18:38] In addition to the impact you have from the electoral fund, the [00:18:41] electoral fund is divided among the [00:18:45] parties based on the votes for the Chamber of [00:18:48] Deputies, right, the Federal Chamber and for the Federal [00:18:52] Senate. So many times we see parties giving up on launching [00:18:56] a candidate who seemed competitive for governor, for example, and put him in the [00:19:00] Senate or the Chamber of Deputies. This has a [00:19:03] purpose within this party construction. And [00:19:06] this is very important. We have been having [00:19:10] a problem with party pulverization in recent years, [00:19:16] barrier clause as an instrument to help us [00:19:19] reduce this and see if this way we [00:19:22] can give a little more programmatic identity to the [00:19:26] parties, because the voter doesn't always understand all [00:19:29] this dynamic, right? But now we go live to Bahia. Reporter [00:19:33] Marcos Valentim is following the voting in Feira de Santana, the second largest [00:19:37] city in population in the state, only behind the [00:19:40] capital Salvador. Hi Marcos, good afternoon to [00:19:43] you. Only from the capital [00:19:47] Salvador. [00:19:49] Good afternoon Kelly, good afternoon Renato to all of Record News. We are here from Feira de Santana, [00:19:53] the second largest city in Bahia, with about 435,000 [00:19:56] eligible voters to vote in the elections here in the city. Look at the [00:20:00] current information, two people have already been arrested this morning in the interior of Bahia, [00:20:04] one in Vitória da Conquista and another in the city of Tremendau. The information [00:20:08] I have now is about two more people arrested here in Feira de Santana for the practice [00:20:11] of illegal campaigning near polling stations. Unfortunately, it is still recurrent in the interior [00:20:15] of Bahia, the practice of illegal campaigning also in other capitals. Here in Feira de Santana it was no [00:20:19] different, also in the city of Tremendau and also Vitória da [00:20:22] Conquista. The expectation of queues here is [00:20:25] the delay, right? People are waiting to vote, about 2 to 3 [00:20:28] hours, a lot of complaints and what I'm observing a lot here, Kelly and [00:20:32] Renato, is a lot of giving up. People wait in line, it takes a long time, [00:20:36] they end up leaving and [00:20:39] opting for the [00:20:42] e-Título electoral app to justify not voting. [00:20:46] Unfortunately, I'm seeing this here now at this exact moment in this [00:20:49] polling station here in Feira de Santana, section 147 of [00:20:53] zone 157 in the city of Feira de Santana. Renato and Kelly, thank you [00:20:57] for the information. We just remind that to justify via [00:21:00] e-Título, you cannot be at your polling station, [00:21:04] right? So that's why it's really very important for us to warn about this. You can only [00:21:08] justify if you are truly not at your polling [00:21:11] station. Now we head to the interior of São Paulo. Reporter [00:21:15] Sônia Souza brings information about the storm that is causing [00:21:18] damage, including impacts [00:21:20] on voting in many cities. Is that right, Sônia? Good [00:21:22] afternoon. Good afternoon Kelly, good afternoon Renato and to [00:21:26] everyone watching Record News. That's right, Kelly, one of the impacted [00:21:29] cities is Presidente Prudente. There, the storm caused [00:21:33] the unroofing of a school and therefore the polling [00:21:36] station had to be transferred. So attention, [00:21:39] voters who vote at Florival do Leal school, [00:21:43] they were then transferred temporarily to the Faculty of [00:21:46] Sciences and Technology of UNESP. This new [00:21:50] polling place, I'll give you the address here, is Roberto [00:21:53] Simon Street, no number 300, in the Jardim Das Rosas neighborhood. This [00:21:57] transfer was authorized by the electoral zone [00:22:00] temporarily so as not to disrupt the flow of voting [00:22:04] in the city. Today, 12 sections were transferred [00:22:07] to UNESP in total. There are [00:22:09] 3,267 [00:22:11] voters who need to go to UNESP today. Remember, those who [00:22:15] vote at Florival do Leal school today [00:22:19] vote at UNESP. Now, if you have any questions about this [00:22:22] transfer, you can clarify them by calling [00:22:25] 148, which is the voter service center. The [00:22:29] number is 148. This service center is open [00:22:33] today until 5:30 in the afternoon. So, for the voter who wants to [00:22:36] check if their zone suffered any change due to the rain [00:22:40] in their city, they can call 148. And Kelly, I remind [00:22:44] you that we have a civil defense alert for the Presidente [00:22:47] Prudente region, which was affected by the storm. Also for other [00:22:51] regions of the state such as Bauru, Itapeva, [00:22:54] Sorocaba and Marília. So in these locations there is a higher chance [00:22:58] of intense rain showers and this can cause inconvenience, [00:23:02] especially in the most vulnerable areas. So there's the [00:23:05] civil defense alert that is valid all day today for these [00:23:08] regions of São Paulo state. I will continue to follow everything here [00:23:12] in the interior. I'll be back at any moment with more news for you, [00:23:16] Kelly. What a wind, huh, Sônia. Thank you for the information. Any news, [00:23:20] just call please. 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As there is a time zone [00:27:36] difference in Brazil, the voting interval varies in some states. [00:27:40] In Acre and part of Amazonas, the election started [00:27:43] at 6 am and ends at 3 pm. In other areas of [00:27:47] Amazonas, in Mato Grosso, Mato Grosso do Sul, Roraima and [00:27:51] Rondônia, the interval shifts 1 hour forward, [00:27:54] therefore, from 7 am to 4 pm, [00:27:57] while in Fernando de Noronha it will be one hour ahead in [00:28:01] relation to Brasília time, from 9 am to 6 [00:28:05] pm. It is also worth remembering the order of positions [00:28:08] that will appear on the ballots. The first vote goes to federal [00:28:12] deputy, which are four digits, then state deputy with [00:28:15] five digits. The list continues with the names for the Senate. Two will [00:28:19] be chosen for each federative unit. These are [00:28:23] three digits. Then the position of governor appears and [00:28:27] finally the president. Both [00:28:29] with two digits. As there are many numbers, the recommendation, [00:28:33] of course, is to write them down on paper to take to the [00:28:36] polls. The candidate for re-election to the government of the Federal [00:28:40] District, Selina Leão, from PP, voted around 11 [00:28:44] am. She was in the Lago Norte region accompanied by the candidate [00:28:48] for the Senate for the Federal District, Michele [00:28:50] Bolsonaro. The two said that they will follow the result of the [00:28:54] count together. [00:28:57] Well, Eduardo Breciani, we continue [00:29:00] here analyzing and seeing. Candidates usually do [00:29:04] this, right? They try to vote earlier to then concentrate on [00:29:07] following the [00:29:08] count. [00:29:13] Exactly, it's also a way to mobilize the voter, [00:29:17] right? They vote in the morning, make a small [00:29:20] speech calling on their voters to attend, it's [00:29:24] always a common strategy, if we look, I think practically [00:29:28] all candidates with chances for both the [00:29:31] presidency and... for state governments have already registered [00:29:35] their votes, which is also a way to lead their [00:29:38] voter to the polls. So it's a common thing [00:29:42] to vote early in the morning and always surrounded by allies [00:29:45] to also take that photo and give that weight, right, to [00:29:49] their candidacy. Now it's very common [00:29:53] for presidents to support [00:29:56] candidates, right? For presidential candidates to support gubernatorial [00:29:59] candidates. Now, how does the opposite work? The [00:30:03] support of the elected governor or the elected [00:30:06] state gubernatorial candidate to support [00:30:10] a presidential candidate? How is this strength [00:30:14] used? [00:30:19] Well, I think we have some variations, right? I think it depends [00:30:22] a lot on the profile of each state. We have, right, a [00:30:26] division of states more to the right, states more to the left, [00:30:30] states that migrate, right, between right and left. [00:30:33] Many times you have regional cases, some [00:30:36] phenomena of regional votes that detach this vote, [00:30:40] but to give an example, today in Rio de [00:30:44] Janeiro we have a state that in the last elections [00:30:47] voted, right, overwhelmingly for the [00:30:50] former president Jair Bolsonaro, in which now the candidate.