RECORDNEWS — broadcast 20261012 060000 UTC 456 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] living in the countryside and producing what she calls a [00:00:04] rare gem, [00:00:07] we have already been recognized in competitions, [00:00:10] right? Today we are part of the competitions, we [00:00:13] are always finalists in the competitions we participate in, so [00:00:17] for us it's a great pride, right? Talking about coffee [00:00:21] today we talk with [00:00:23] heart. [00:00:30] And speaking of highlights in coffee farming, this is Cynthia. In [00:00:34] 2021, this native of Minas Gerais was considered by Forbes [00:00:38] magazine one of the 100 most powerful women in [00:00:42] agribusiness. I consider myself powerful, [00:00:45] for sure. This, this is something I [00:00:48] don't take away from myself at all, right? I am [00:00:52] powerful because I am strengthened by several powerful women. [00:00:56] Currently, she is the president of the association of women [00:01:00] producers of the Minas Gerais and Caparaó forests, the seeds [00:01:03] they plant will soon, soon yield [00:01:07] even more fruits. [00:01:11] Our challenge is still to really be in our [00:01:14] rightful place, right, on stage, sometimes we have, as we [00:01:18] say here in the field, right, sometimes we have to fight to be there [00:01:21] in front, we need more women, right, [00:01:25] with this strength, right, with this idea of going together, the [00:01:29] numbers are still few, right, to see these women [00:01:33] really having this visibility, but the steps [00:01:36] are firm, we are going in the right [00:01:38] direction, [00:01:42] list, that's what scares me and it's never too late to start, Ana only [00:01:44] discovered the flavor that came from her family's farm after retiring, [00:01:48] today she only drinks coffee [00:01:51] grown here, if I travel I stop [00:01:55] drinking coffee if I don't bring my coffee, in fact [00:01:59] last week... I thought about drinking coffee, as [00:02:02] women we feel more [00:02:06] valued because it's our [00:02:10] work, so when we feel, we realize that [00:02:13] our coffee is better, it [00:02:16] it every year we can improve and produce [00:02:20] a better quality coffee, this is very [00:02:22] gratifying. [00:02:26] We are at the Coffee Academy, one of the [00:02:29] main references in specialty coffees in Minas Gerais [00:02:32] and here we are going to talk with Júlia, Brazilian barista [00:02:36] champion, it's no wonder, she [00:02:40] took her first course at 10 years old, her second [00:02:44] at 12 and at 15 years old, [00:02:47] she started working in the profession. So, [00:02:50] Júlia, do you have coffee there? Oh, yes, [00:02:52] she does. [00:02:54] Her experience with coffee started very early. After all, Júlia's great-great-grandfather [00:02:58] was already a coffee farmer. When she was [00:03:01] a child, she lived close to the plantations in the city of [00:03:05] Campos Altos, in Alto Paranaíba. Then her [00:03:08] family moved to Belo Horizonte, and later [00:03:11] to the United States. Júlia accompanied her parents who went [00:03:15] to work abroad. Guess what, with [00:03:17] coffee. [00:03:23] My parents opened an import company for specialty coffees from Brazil. [00:03:27] Exactly to change a little bit the perception of the United States. to set up our coffee [00:03:31] and there I experienced another part of another environment, [00:03:34] right, before it was the farm and now I started to live in [00:03:38] coffee shops. [00:03:41] Upon returning to Brazil, Júlia came to help her father at the coffee [00:03:45] academy. The school was inaugurated in 2011 [00:03:49] and offers courses on introduction to specialty coffee, sensory [00:03:52] analysis, barista, roasting, classification [00:03:56] and tasting. Yes, we were pioneers here in Belo Horizonte. [00:04:00] in specialty coffees as a coffee shop, as [00:04:02] a roasting company, all of this is because my father had this experience [00:04:06] of the end right, not just the beginning, which is in production, but also [00:04:10] in coffee shops, roasting companies, how it was offered to the [00:04:13] public. The family wanted to go [00:04:16] further, to provide common people like you and [00:04:20] me with the pleasure of tasting specialty [00:04:22] coffee. The doors of the school were [00:04:25] opened through the coffee shop. [00:04:29] We saw that... there's a lot of demand from [00:04:32] Corinthians sought eight coaches and consumers to learn more about coffee, what it is, why is this [00:04:34] coffee different from another? there's a more fruity one, there's a more chocolatey one, [00:04:38] how does this, how can we perceive [00:04:40] this? [00:04:44] The beans that supply this space come [00:04:47] mainly from the family's coffee plantation, which produces about [00:04:50] 2,500 bags per year of specialty [00:08:43] Coffee farming generates more than 8 million direct and [00:08:47] indirect jobs in the country and is the main activity of Minas Gerais [00:08:50] agribusiness and many people work with coffee [00:08:54] far from the plantations. Whoever arrives at this [00:08:58] coffee shop for the first time is surprised by the special [00:09:00] drinks. [00:09:06] And also with cosmetics that have coffee as the main [00:09:10] ingredient. [00:09:14] I found it interesting, right, because [00:09:17] I'm a coffee lover, I really like coffee and [00:09:21] there are these products, so I'm using their moisturizer, my hair [00:09:25] also, the hydration is different, I was [00:09:28] positively surprised, they are [00:09:31] moisturizers, soaps, exfoliants, [00:09:35] shampoos, creams for anti-aging treatment, even [00:09:39] sunscreen, the innovative idea... came from this [00:09:43] pharmacist, daughter of a coffee grower from Três Pontas in southern [00:09:46] Minas. Vanessa noticed that the hands of those who work in harvesting the [00:09:50] beans have few spots and decided to study the [00:09:54] properties of coffee oils. Thus, [00:09:57] in 2007, she launched a line of cosmetics. The [00:10:00] initiative earned two important awards: for [00:10:04] entrepreneurship by the UN in 2010 and for innovation [00:10:07] by the National Confederation of Industry in [00:10:10] 2011. The coffee used in cosmetics has [00:10:14] international certificates of sustainable production and rational [00:10:18] use of natural resources. And of course, I [00:10:21] tried it. [00:10:24] I'm noticing that it doesn't have the smell of coffee, [00:10:28] but it has a fragrance from where it comes, it comes [00:10:32] from the coffee, the green bean, which is very [00:10:36] mild, right? And besides that, since this [00:10:39] moisturizer has sugar, it has grape seed, it also brings back this [00:10:43] very good memory, [00:10:44] right? A [00:10:48] delight. Another segment of the production [00:10:51] chain are the roasting companies. Júnior, for example, receives [00:10:55] specialty coffees from 11 farms. The beans are [00:10:57] roasted to supply his coffee shop and several other [00:11:01] ones spread across the country and even [00:11:05] around the world. Specialty coffee has to be fresh, [00:11:08] so we roast it just in time. So we roast the coffee, [00:11:12] package it and ship it on the same day. The [00:11:16] roasting master is João Vítor, who is a specialist, despite [00:11:20] being only 23 years old, where we have to bring, right, [00:11:23] even more in the roasting process. A polishing, right, in the [00:11:27] process where we can highlight [00:11:30] exotic drinks in several coffees and the passion [00:11:34] is so great that it overflows. My biggest [00:11:36] dream, right, is to be able to teach people to roast [00:11:40] specialty coffee, right, which is what I like to do most. I [00:11:44] wake up breathing coffee, I sleep [00:11:47] thinking about coffee and that's my [00:11:50] life. [00:11:52] For us, it leaves a beautiful memory that is renewed with [00:11:56] each cup. [00:12:16] In the best style of the great Brazilian football [00:12:20] classics, Farm 18 had another busy [00:12:23] week with a lot of... fire in the [00:12:25] hay, who lived the glory this [00:12:29] week was JP who became the new [00:12:31] farmer. Congratulations, [00:12:34] JP. René Tristan was not so [00:12:37] lucky, he went to Roça and said goodbye to [00:12:41] the show. You can pack your bags and go back to the big city. Thank you, [00:12:45] you know? And in the Brazilian Championship, the last rounds [00:12:48] also set the football world on fire. Palmeiras and Flamengo [00:12:52] remain firm in the fight for leadership. At the [00:12:56] bottom of the table, famous teams [00:12:59] are at risk of relegation, there is [00:13:03] tension on the fields and in the farm, and to [00:13:06] spice up the competition even more, today we had [00:13:09] classics all over Brazil, and it's in this climate that [00:13:13] Esporte Record will recall historical [00:13:16] moments of the greatest duels in our [00:13:19] football. [00:13:22] Corinthians and Palmeiras, eternal rivals. They have [00:13:25] already starred in many head-to-head chapters, one of the most [00:13:28] remembered ended in confusion. June [00:13:31] 20, 1999, [00:13:34] final of the Campeonato Paulista, with the game tied 2 to [00:13:37] 2, at 31 minutes of the second half, [00:13:41] Edilson Capetinha decided to provoke the [00:13:44] Palmeiras fans with keepie-uppies and started [00:13:47] a generalized confusion. [00:13:50] Notice that one of the first [00:13:53] Palmeiras players to go after the Corinthians player was forward [00:13:56] Paulo Nunes. [00:13:59] Years later, the Verdão [00:14:02] idol participated in A Fazenda. The [00:14:05] ex-player's behavior did not change. Paulo Nunes [00:14:08] continued not to shy away from a confusion. Just to let you know, [00:14:12] especially Gominho, that Paula Nunes is not worried about reaching the final here, [00:14:16] you know? Paula Nunes, she [00:14:19] is dying to go home. I'm here to enjoy, to [00:14:22] play fair always. Paula [00:14:26] Nunes doesn't need to be on television crying, begging, asking [00:14:30] for a job. Paula Nunes worked her whole [00:14:33] life to be where she is, [00:14:36] okay? Respect my [00:14:38] family at least. Another classic of Brazilian [00:14:42] football, famous for ending in confusion, is the [00:14:45] duel between Grêmio and Internacional. The [00:14:48] tricolor won 2-1 in the Grenal [00:14:51] 413, valid for the Gaucho championship [00:14:55] of 2018 at Beira-Rio, but the atmosphere [00:14:59] was already heated even before the ball rolled, the [00:15:02] captains D'Alessandro and Maicon started fighting [00:15:06] during the coin toss in front of the referee [00:15:09] team. [00:15:13] The rural reality show on Record has already gone through similar [00:15:16] moments, in the tenth edition of the show, Rafael [00:15:20] Ilha, the winner, argued with João [00:15:23] Zoli, moments before a fire [00:15:26] trial. He's the one who's going, I can't even go to the trial, son, [00:15:28] you're going to vote for Rafael, it's [00:15:31] you. [00:15:35] You're going to hit me, I'm not hitting you, am I? [00:15:37] I'm going to hit you, are you crazy? You have one and a half million [00:15:41] just to [00:15:42] touch you. [00:15:47] He wants a little kiss, a big kiss, he freaked out, people, the guy [00:15:51] freaked out. I didn't freak out, man, not at all, but [00:15:54] in the farm, football doesn't only share fights and [00:15:58] confusions, another common point between [00:16:01] sports and reality shows is the relationship with [00:16:05] animals, whether they are mascots. [00:16:16] In the 15th edition of the show, the farmer needed to [00:16:20] get creative and chased a [00:16:23] pig after cleaning the [00:16:25] pigsty. I struggled to get it [00:16:28] in. They are [00:16:31] terrible, come baby, come, let's [00:16:34] eat, come on! And you [00:16:38] are mistaken if you think that an animal has never caused trouble [00:16:42] on the field. December 11, [00:16:44] 1983, final of the Campeonato Carioca, [00:16:48] Fla-Flu classic. As soon as the ball rolled, a [00:16:51] crow was released onto the Maracanã field by the Flamengo [00:16:55] fans. The match was stopped until the bird was [00:16:59] captured. Which was not an easy [00:17:01] task. [00:17:08] After many attempts, Aldo, the [00:17:11] Rio de Janeiro tricolor's full-back, ended the red-and-blacks' [00:17:14] fun. When the ball rolled, the tricolores [00:17:18] clipped the rival's wings, with a goal at [00:17:22] 45 minutes of the second half, scored by Assis, [00:17:25] Fluminense won the match and won the state title [00:17:29] that [00:17:32] year. Between fights, controversies, and daily life with [00:17:35] animals, the worlds of... farm and Brazilian [00:17:39] football share a lot of [00:17:41] things. [00:17:43] It remains to be seen if the endings of this year's [00:17:46] seasons will be with more trouble, [00:17:49] confusions, we will also know who will [00:17:52] end up happily [00:17:54] ever after. [00:18:00] Sports record on air with classics, how are you, Ms. Paloma, all [00:18:03] good and you? All good, you know that today we had a classic as the report [00:18:07] by Bruno showed, three great classics, the Grenal [00:18:11] ended in a 1-1 draw, Corinthians played on Palmeiras' [00:18:15] field, Palmeiras won 4-1, Flamengo [00:18:18] won 1-0. We are going to get into the topic of the [00:18:22] day, first like this: what is the biggest classic in Brazilian football, [00:18:25] Dudo? [00:18:27] Ah, Corinthians and Palmeiras, Flamengo, Fluminense, Grêmio, Inter, you saw the biggest classic in [00:18:31] football or it is and for you, Noriega, Grenal, it is not the [00:18:35] biggest classic in terms of team size, it is. the biggest [00:18:38] rivalry is Grenal and for you, Grenal is the biggest [00:18:41] rivalry, were you surprised or [00:18:45] did you find it normal for Clarence Seedorf to be hired as [00:18:48] Corinthians' coach? Very surprised at the wrong time, you [00:18:52] knew, right, Dudo, I didn't know, I'm just asking, I'm [00:18:55] amazed by this signing, amazed, Kléber, no one [00:18:58] expected this, right, but do you think it's a good crazy [00:19:01] or a crazy crazy? I think it's a crazy crazy. Noriega [00:19:05] is shocked. [00:19:09] The guys are doubting Seedorf, the Brazilian coaches who must have [00:19:12] loved it, right? Well, Corinthians announced this morning the signing of the [00:19:16] Dutchman Seedorf as the new coach of the team. The choice caught [00:19:19] the fans by surprise, all the press too, all of us [00:19:23] too, right? But after all, did the Timão board make the best [00:19:26] choice? [00:19:34] Eight consecutive defeats on the brink of the relegation zone. [00:20:10] didn't get one of the eight, so Corinthians was no longer looking for [00:20:13] a coach, Corinthians was trying to find a coach who [00:20:17] would agree to coach them, as the news was [00:20:20] surprising, but Corinthians doesn't need a surprise, Corinthians needs [00:20:23] results, I can't believe that Seedorf will bring [00:20:27] these results, because his resume as a coach is not good, [00:20:31] he has more losses than wins as a football [00:20:35] coach and since 2019 he has not. As a player, [00:20:38] Seedorf was the only athlete to win the UEFA Champions League [00:20:42] with three different clubs: [00:20:44] Ajax, Milan and Real Madrid, but as [00:20:48] a coach the numbers are not positive, the [00:20:52] Dutchman has not been a coach for 7 [00:20:55] years, his last job was with the Cameroon national team, [00:20:59] where he had 12 games and only four [00:21:01] wins, he also had spells at Milan, [00:21:05] Shenzhen of China and Deportivo La Coruña. [00:21:08] For these three clubs there were 51 games with [00:21:12] 16 wins, 12 draws and [00:21:15] 23 losses, so they ended up resorting to this [00:21:19] name which is a... complete unknown, I think if I [00:21:22] could summarize it, I think that [00:21:25] the fan's hope is much smaller than the [00:21:29] concern of a non- success, that is, of Seedorf's [00:21:33] failure, but the point that most catches my attention is how [00:21:37] they bring a coach who, even if he knows Brazilian [00:21:40] football, doesn't have good work, how will he [00:21:43] implement a good work in a team that hasn't won [00:21:47] eight games in the Brazilian championship? at a moment when Corinthians [00:21:51] needs to start winning again to avoid relegation, [00:21:55] to avoid relegation, really Seedorf, in my opinion, [00:21:59] is not the best name. Corinthians is in such a bad situation that we don't find [00:22:03] anything [00:22:04] surprising anymore. [00:22:10] Well, you see it caused astonishment and, but [00:22:14] what will it be, before we get more into the debate, what will the Corinthians [00:22:18] fans think here? We have the opinion of press professionals, [00:22:22] many who cover Corinthians daily, will [00:22:25] the Corinthians public, the Corinthians fan think so? Well, the [00:22:29] Corinthians fan sent a message here on Sport Record, is the faithful [00:22:32] happy with Seedorf's arrival? You can [00:22:35] speak. [00:22:40] Now Seedorf at Corinthians can only be [00:22:43] a joke, this is a joke, and what has this guy won in his life as [00:22:47] a coach? Corinthians as it is, a tremendous [00:22:50] mess, losing to its biggest rival, it must [00:22:53] be a joke with the fans, now it's become a farce, [00:22:57] unfortunately this script we are witnessing at Corinthians seems like the same [00:23:00] script as that Cruzeiro team that won the Brazil Cup [00:23:04] and then was relegated, it seems [00:23:08] that every and any decision they can make to [00:23:11] make this team fall, they do, like hiring a [00:23:14] coach who doesn't make sense, putting a guy who [00:23:17] will fall and now suddenly decide to bring [00:23:20] a coach who doesn't have a very positive history, hasn't worked for 7 years, [00:23:24] but let's hope that superior forces don't let [00:23:27] us fall, however, we are very much deserving and this board [00:23:31] is very much deserving, because it's difficult, for the delicate moment [00:23:35] that the people's team is living, I would prefer a coach who knew Brazilian [00:23:39] football a little better and who already had a little more experience and [00:23:43] caliber as a coach, of course we have to support until the end, [00:23:46] go Corinthians, it wasn't Corinthians who chose. [00:23:50] "Seedorf who knew and thinks in the best [00:23:54] possible way that would be more adaptable to his squad, [00:23:57] but rather it was the first coach who said yes to Corinthians' work for [00:24:01] this final stretch of suffocation to be able to put out this fire that is [00:24:05] Esporte Clube Corinthians Paulista, as a fan it's an afternoon/evening to [00:24:09] be forgotten, this 4-1 is not painful only [00:24:12] because it's against the arch- rival, it's because the Corinthians fan doesn't [00:24:16] see hope and has to put these hopes on top [00:24:20] of a coach who hasn't coached a team since 2019 and [00:24:24] who has more losses than wins in his [00:24:26] career. [00:24:31] Well, this issue of... it's difficult [00:24:34] really, right? You to [00:24:38] know where it came from, we're even going to [00:24:41] try to contact Marcelo Pais, who is the executive director of [00:24:44] Corinthians, to see if he agrees to talk to us. He even gave [00:24:47] statements today about what was the... [00:24:50] inspiration, I think we should separate it like this, all these [00:24:54] fans who sent us videos are right, Seedorf has [00:24:57] a very small coaching career, [00:25:00] Seedorf worked at Milan, it's a [00:25:04] big club where he played, started well and so on, [00:25:07] then the performance always hovers around 40, 30, [00:25:10] 50%. Then Seedorf worked in China [00:25:13] and Seedorf worked with the Cameroon national [00:25:16] team, where also, La Coruña. [00:25:20] he fell, he came to save them from relegation, worked for a short [00:25:24] time and worked with the Cameroon national team there even with Kluivert, the striker [00:25:28] who played with him in the Netherlands national team and it's, as [00:25:31] many people mentioned, 6 years without [00:25:35] being a coach or more, 8 years without being [00:25:37] a coach. That Seedorf knows [00:25:40] football, there is no doubt, that Seedorf [00:25:43] was a great football player, there is also no doubt. [00:25:46] The surprise one of you... you [00:25:50] said a lot of surprise, that you thought it was crazy, very crazy, Noriega [00:25:54] said shock, he's been stopped for 7 years, right, Kleber? [00:25:58] So, without commanding for a long time, yes, I agree [00:26:01] I think the... fact that the guy is [00:26:03] stopped [00:26:06] that can be missing now if he, if he dominates the ball [00:26:09] like this, this image is wonderful and tie and [00:26:13] shoes, he plays very well, right? No, and you [00:26:16] saw the guys on the bench there, their little laugh, see the guys on the bench, see the guys on the bench [00:26:20] see [00:26:22] the guys on the bench there, then it goes to his face, [00:26:25] see, it's La Coruña, this [00:26:27] is, right? It's by the color of the shirt, it's La [00:26:31] Coruña, right? Very, he gives a little look at the guys on the bench like [00:26:35] that, he says something, he gives that little laugh. [00:26:38] Yes, and in Monday's training, let's [00:26:40] agree, let's do ball control, no, no, professor, let me talk, [00:26:44] but it's clear, this is an image that ended up here. [00:26:48] like that statement he made today, what is [00:26:51] your surprise, Maurício Noriega? The surprise is that he [00:26:55] goes through two paths. First, so many people saying no to Corinthians, [00:26:59] I think the guys are scared. [00:27:02] to sign off on Corinthians' relegation, if Corinthians gets [00:27:06] relegated, which I think won't happen, but if [00:27:09] it does, these coaches who say no to Corinthians are [00:27:13] afraid to go down in history as coaches who fell with Corinthians. You remember the names more or [00:27:16] less, we were making a quick list, Emiliano and Ramon Dias [00:27:20] Carille, Car no, let's go with the foreigners so we don't [00:27:23] lose track, Emiliano and Ramon, Zubel Dia, Mascherano, [00:27:26] Mascherano, uh, Paloma mentioned Pedro Cachinha, [00:27:30] Voivoda, then you go to the Brazilians. Silvinho, [00:27:33] Silvinho, that's already eight, if you [00:27:36] count Emiliano and Ramon as two, [00:27:39] right, not just one, but only two Brazilians on this [00:27:45] the most in this story, ah Jesus has good coaches, so [00:27:48] there's no good crop of coaches, the surprise is [00:27:52] how you arrive at this name, that's the thing, how [00:27:55] do you arrive at Seedorf, this [00:27:58] is the biggest enigma, I think nothing against him, maybe he arrives [00:28:02] and wins 18 games with Corinthians, understood? Anything can happen, but [00:28:05] how you arrive at this name surprises me, I don't [00:28:09] know where they discovered this? No, Memphis, Dutch also, so, [00:28:13] but they have no history of friendship, they have no close [00:28:16] relationship, they are not friends, the [00:28:19] proximity they have is being two great players from the Dutch national team. Look, I'm [00:28:22] seeing a note here from GE, [00:28:26] OTB, which is a sports [00:28:29] company, a company that... manages [00:28:32] the career of Seedorf and Mário Sérgio Kléber's son. [00:28:36] OTB clarifies [00:28:39] and this note was distributed to the press, I'm reading [00:28:43] it here on the website, but it was a note distributed to the press, Seedorf's [00:28:47] name was suggested to Marcelo [00:28:51] Paz on Friday, the negotiation was closed after two days [00:28:54] of talks between the parties, to [00:28:58] dispel common insinuations that detract from the [00:29:00] merit and autonomy. Marcelo Paz and also the [00:29:04] president, OTB made sure to [00:29:07] make this statement. Someone suggested it, [00:29:11] of course, it wasn't I don't think it came from [00:29:14] someone's head, from so many no's, for the guy to end up, and another thing [00:29:18] right Cléber, it's crazy because the guy is not up to date with what's happening in Brazilian football, I doubt [00:29:22] he was following the Brazilian championship, ah but he knows what Brazilian football is, what [00:29:26] Corinthians is, he knows little right? I'll just repeat, [00:29:30] this note was released OTB to all [00:29:33] the press this Sunday morning when the hiring was announced, and besides that, [00:29:37] this is an incompetence, another one from the Corinthians [00:29:40] board, you're going to play with Inter, you keep your coach for two [00:29:43] weeks, Corinthians goes there, loses, fires him and you don't have a trump card, as Narii [00:29:47] said, a series of coaches said no and you come up with this [00:29:51] otherworldly thing which is Seedorf who hasn't been a coach for 7 [00:29:54] years, this is absurd, I think this is an attempt [00:29:57] it seems to me that it's just playing with the brand, a brand, it has [00:30:01] a brand, but it's trying to get through a moment, look, we're [00:30:05] bringing Seedorf, but the fan is [00:30:07] aware. [00:30:09] It's a dangerous move, because I repeat, no one will discuss Seedorf's [00:30:13] history in football, of course, all due respect, Seedorf's career as a football [00:30:16] player, Seedorf's career as [00:30:19] a coach, you can discuss it a lot. [00:30:23] I read the numbers today, I won't go into it, 63 [00:30:25] games, 20 wins, 17 draws and [00:30:29] 26 losses, he lost more than he won. 63 [00:30:33] matches is a very short career as a coach, not even [00:30:37] two Brazilian championships, it's a gamble, right? As I [00:30:40] said, Cameroon was the last, the last [00:30:43] job, as has been said here, it's been [00:30:47] 7 years, it ended in 2019 and [00:30:50] well, he couldn't have a good African Cup.