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[00:00:00] leisure, right, Lude? No, there isn't,
[00:00:02] the gym is very far, the square, the court, so I end up
[00:00:06] staying at home, there's nothing to do, no,
[00:00:10] it wasn't always like this, until last year, Ludmila practiced
[00:00:13] sports in the old city where she lived, but she had to abandon
[00:00:17] the classes. In the new address, mother and daughter can at most
[00:00:21] take a walk through the bumpy dirt
[00:00:24] road. There's no way I can let her
[00:00:27] practice an activity alone on the street, because of the
[00:00:30] risks nowadays, right?
[00:00:33] Impossible.
[00:00:35] Ludmilla is part of a group of teenagers with a similar profile
[00:00:39] and, unfortunately, it's increasingly common. We
[00:00:43] see children with a predilection
[00:00:46] for more sedentary activities,
[00:00:49] using computers, staying more at
[00:00:53] home, a difficulty with public
[00:00:57] safety.
[00:01:00] Like Ludmila, Daniel also had back pain that
[00:01:03] started when he was still a child. The boy spent
[00:01:07] a lot of time on his phone and playing video games, it was up to 7 hours with
[00:01:11] his eyes on
[00:01:12] the screens.
[00:01:15] I went to the doctor and he noticed a
[00:01:18] scoliosis not so serious on my back, but that could
[00:01:22] worsen in the future. Sedentarism, as well as in
[00:01:25] adults, is very bad for children
[00:01:28] as well. In several aspects, from a postural
[00:01:32] and skeletal functioning point of view, the big
[00:01:35] challenge is that young people and teenagers don't
[00:01:38] realize this so early, but the boy
[00:01:41] with his mother's help found two years ago near home a
[00:01:45] place to put his phone
[00:01:47] aside.
[00:01:49] The turning point in the teenager's life came with stretching and
[00:01:53] balance exercises done at this gym. In
[00:01:56] a short time, his physique is not even a shadow of what it was before.
[00:02:01] Now these pains are much smaller, they are much more bearable and they are much
[00:02:05] rarer too, I think it has improved a lot, it's very good, I feel
[00:02:08] more willing to do things. In
[00:02:12] a year in the country, quadrupled the enrollments of students between
[00:02:15] 13 and 18 years old in closed spaces for
[00:02:18] exercises. This is the case of Daniel, who had an
[00:02:22] important example at home. I
[00:02:25] have always been focused on exercise too, I have always liked
[00:02:28] it a lot, I have always tried to.
[00:02:31] these times she had the to give myself and I pass this on at home all the time,
[00:02:33] so I nag, I even tell him: "Oh, you'll only stop doing pilates when
[00:02:37] you put down your phone."
[00:02:40] The boy reduced the time he spends in front of screens, now
[00:02:44] it's 2 hours daily, he hasn't completely abandoned
[00:02:47] the computer, but he left his relaxed
[00:02:50] posture in the past.
[00:03:01] Eyes fixed on the screen or attentive to games
[00:03:04] projected on the TV, reflect a lifestyle
[00:03:08] that is increasingly common,
[00:03:11] fueled by long periods, without any
[00:03:14] physical activity, the distraction
[00:03:17] makes Diego lose track of
[00:03:19] time. Have you ever spent the whole day
[00:03:23] playing? Yes, the whole day, until the next
[00:03:27] bought an annual package for the family at day.
[00:03:30] Like so many Brazilian mothers, she juggles an
[00:03:33] intense routine, she works and studies,
[00:03:37] daily commitments increase the feeling of
[00:03:40] guilt for not being able to follow closely and
[00:03:43] change her son's routine.
[00:03:46] He gets up, drinks his coffee when
[00:03:49] he wants, he asks for my phone and I give it to him, he puts his
[00:03:53] little mattress here, he spends the whole day playing and he only gets up
[00:03:57] to eat, to do some hygiene. Diego
[00:04:00] is part of a battalion of sedentary children and
[00:04:04] teenagers, according to a recent survey conducted in
[00:04:08] the State of São Paulo, the number of teenagers with this
[00:04:11] profile is large, 86% are
[00:04:15] considered inactive. According
[00:04:18] to the World Health Organization, in Brazil,
[00:04:21] 84% of young people do not meet the
[00:04:25] basic recommendation of at least one hour
[00:04:29] of daily physical activity. The study was
[00:04:32] conducted in 146
[00:04:33] countries.
[00:04:36] From an emotional point of view, you may be associated with more depression,
[00:04:40] anxiety.
[00:04:44] He could have more time here on the street, talking,
[00:04:48] playing with friends, but Diego has barely seen
[00:04:52] life pass by the window. It's hours and
[00:04:55] hours like this, on the phone
[00:04:58] or doing... absolutely nothing and from
[00:05:02] his room he comes to the living room, in a vicious
[00:05:05] cycle and almost imprisoning, this
[00:05:09] sedentary routine hand in
[00:05:12] hand. only with a cell phone generates
[00:05:15] a lot, a lot
[00:05:17] of anxiety, anxiety that has already affected
[00:05:21] Diego, staying connected like this is a
[00:05:24] way for the boy to escape a whirlwind of
[00:05:27] thoughts.
[00:05:30] And how's your head? Oh, it's racing,
[00:05:33] my heart starts beating,
[00:05:37] I start to smooth my hands, then my legs start to move, I can't stay
[00:05:41] still. During the interview, what seemed
[00:05:44] dormant, immobile, starts to stir, in his
[00:05:48] fingers, in his restless hands and
[00:05:51] legs.
[00:05:54] Research from the Institute of Psychiatry at USP shows
[00:05:57] that 36% of young people developed anxiety
[00:06:01] symptoms during the pandemic. There was an
[00:06:04] episode, he got up in the middle of the night and tried to go outside,
[00:06:08] sleeping, sleeping. Can't leave a pot on the stove.
[00:06:12] No, not that, because he
[00:06:15] forgets, which is what doctors call a vicious
[00:06:19] circle, physical prostration, increases
[00:06:22] anxiety, agitation, causes
[00:06:25] mood changes and decreases concentration.
[00:06:28] How long can you pay attention
[00:06:31] to a person like that before you get
[00:06:34] distracted? I think 10
[00:06:38] minutes, 15, around there,
[00:06:40] then, after that? My body starts to get agitated.
[00:06:44] It could be even less, Diego, research shows
[00:06:48] that in modern life, with the stimuli brought by
[00:06:51] technology, our attention is
[00:06:55] less than that of an aquarium fish, only
[00:06:58] 8 seconds, one second less than a goldfish.
[00:07:02] For Diego, lack of attention is
[00:07:06] reflected where he needs it most: at
[00:07:09] school. I used to walk around the classroom a lot.
[00:07:13] I used to mess with the others, Diego, despite being a seemingly
[00:07:15] sensitive and diligent boy, collects
[00:07:19] warnings while in 8th grade at a
[00:07:23] public school in São Paulo.
[00:07:26] It was two, three, one day, never more than
[00:07:29] three, but now it can't be more than that, otherwise what happens? I
[00:07:33] will change schools.
[00:07:36] Tired of the emotional rollercoaster, mother and son are
[00:07:39] committed to a modest project, but one that can...
[00:07:42] change the teenager's life, leave his
[00:07:45] room, a reaction to sedentarism that he promises
[00:07:49] to fulfill even when he is alone at
[00:07:51] home.
[00:07:54] It was very hot, so I decided to go out and ride my bike, it was very
[00:07:57] sunny. Recently, the bike that was
[00:08:01] unused was recovered, even if
[00:08:05] for a few minutes a day, the boy now rides through the streets
[00:08:09] of the neighborhood.
[00:08:13] The physical effort for him to leave anxiety
[00:08:16] and sedentarism finally
[00:08:20] behind.
[00:08:26] Dancing to post on social media is one of the few
[00:08:29] physical activities in Júlia's routine. I like the gym, but it makes me
[00:08:33] lazy.
[00:08:36] So lazy. Her father even
[00:08:39] the neighborhood gym. I ended up only going for a week. Because I get lazy, I
[00:08:43] don't have much focus for these kinds of things, so he kept
[00:08:47] paying and I didn't go. I took her last four months
[00:08:50] and put them on my plan, so my gym membership is paid
[00:08:54] until
[00:08:54] 2025.
[00:08:59] At 17, a person has plenty of energy, if they don't
[00:09:03] spend it properly, the body pays the price. Júlia
[00:09:06] feels this when it's time to sleep, or
[00:09:09] rather, when she needs to sleep, she suffers
[00:09:12] from insomnia. When I have insomnia I can fall
[00:09:15] asleep, but I keep waking up in the middle of the night all the time or I just can't
[00:09:19] sleep at all.
[00:09:23] In moments when she should be active, she shuts down. Sometimes I
[00:09:26] end up skipping class and the school coordinator comes and gives me a lecture
[00:09:29] or the teachers themselves bother you?
[00:09:33] It bothers me, why? Because you kind of don't have that
[00:09:36] energy that you would normally have sleeping the 8 hours that are
[00:09:40] needed, right? So you... stay tired
[00:09:43] all the time. Nights of insomnia are usually linked to moments of
[00:09:47] anxiety. Júlia has already identified that these
[00:09:50] crises start like this, by looking at her phone, something she
[00:09:54] does all
[00:09:55] day.
[00:10:01] We teenagers tend to compare ourselves to people,
[00:10:05] in terms of body, beauty and various things, so it ends up
[00:10:08] creating a certain anxiety about these things.
[00:10:14] When he only consumes the internet, he stays there playing games
[00:10:18] and with technology, he often becomes a
[00:10:21] consumer, he assumes the role of...
[00:10:25] reactive in the environment, he loses the ability to
[00:10:28] discern what he needs to be proactive in the
[00:10:32] environment to choose, to concentrate, act,
[00:10:34] resolve.
[00:10:39] It's in her room that she spends most of the day, glued to her
[00:10:42] cell phone. I spend a lot of time on social media, I post content on
[00:10:46] some networks where I have a certain engagement, sometimes I turn,
[00:10:50] turn, turn and can't sleep,
[00:10:52] then I end up escaping to my phone to try to sleep.
[00:10:57] Insomnia in children and adolescents is very common. Screens
[00:11:01] end up being, the worst factor to alter the sleep of
[00:11:05] any age group. Screens will cause the onset of
[00:11:08] sleep to be delayed. This man is one of the greatest specialists
[00:11:12] in the art of how to sleep better. Here at the
[00:11:15] institute where he works, an average of
[00:11:18] 64 exams are performed per day, four of which are for
[00:11:22] children, examining patients while they sleep. With the help of
[00:11:25] graphs it's easy to identify when sleep is
[00:11:28] agitated, for example, here he moved, right? Various
[00:11:32] studies point out the importance of physical activity for sleep
[00:11:35] quality at any age, especially aerobic
[00:11:39] exercises. There are studies that evaluated
[00:11:41] like this: those who have a lot of physical activity and use screens
[00:11:45] have a smaller impact on sleep than those who are completely
[00:11:48] sedentary. The World Health
[00:11:52] Organization recommends at least 60 minutes per day of
[00:11:55] physical activities for children and adolescents between
[00:11:59] 5 and 17 years old. A recent study conducted in Belgium
[00:12:03] with 49,000 adolescents from 12 countries, showed
[00:12:07] that the more school pressure, the more time
[00:12:10] on tablets, on cell phones, the more psychological
[00:12:13] symptoms appear such as irritability,
[00:12:16] bad mood and nervousness.
[00:12:19] Consequently, sleep quality is worse, while
[00:12:22] among students who performed physical activities
[00:12:26] frequently, sleep was better and the symptoms of
[00:12:29] psychological pressure were more
[00:12:32] moderate. There's nothing better than this, than playing
[00:12:35] a sport to sleep well. I started climbing today, I have a routine, I come here
[00:12:39] every day, so you can't sleep late because I'll wake up early
[00:12:43] to come here. It changes, it changes
[00:12:46] a lot.
[00:12:49] The alarm bell for Júlia's family came with an anxiety
[00:12:52] attack experienced by the teenager. One of
[00:12:56] crisis, she grabbed the gate remote and ran
[00:13:00] out, that's when I started to realize that there was really
[00:13:04] something wrong.
[00:13:07] Even with this warning, Júlia still hasn't felt like going to the gym,
[00:13:11] but step by step she's starting to turn the game around. With her mother's company, she
[00:13:14] included walking in her weekly
[00:13:16] routine.
[00:13:19] What changes in your day when you come to walk with your mom?
[00:13:23] Oh, I have other thoughts and it clears my mind and gives me
[00:13:27] energy during the day, so you end up sleeping a little
[00:13:30] better. Exercise has been a fuel for
[00:13:34] the body, for sleep and for family unity. As a mother
[00:13:38] we miss this
[00:13:41] communication and when we manage to come,
[00:13:44] I also try to see it as my time with her, that the main thing is really
[00:13:48] to have this determination, this time for
[00:13:50] us.
[00:13:57] Now you will learn the story of the young man who lost his feet and hands due
[00:14:01] to complications from meningitis, but today he is a champion
[00:14:05] skateboarder. São Paulo, the city is the setting for a
[00:14:08] story that could be the script of a novel, a
[00:14:11] movie, a life with layers of
[00:14:15] pain. Why me? 7 million
[00:14:19] people in the world and it had to be me
[00:14:21] like that.
[00:14:23] In the same proportion. And layers of light, the
[00:14:27] mind is powerful, I know I can do anything, it's just a matter of wanting
[00:14:30] it. Daniel Amorim, 20 years
[00:14:34] old, known as Amorinha, idol and
[00:14:38] multi-champion of adaptive skateboarding, at
[00:14:40] seven he lost his feet and hands due to
[00:14:44] complications from
[00:14:45] meningitis.
[00:14:48] I only remember waking up in the hospital once, I stayed a little while in the hospital
[00:14:52] until I had to amputate my arms because
[00:14:55] the meningitis was necrotizing my arms, my legs, overnight
[00:14:59] everything changed.
[00:15:03] It was a new life, I don't
[00:15:06] remember much, I remember some phases of me running in the street and
[00:15:09] so on, a lot, a lot, a lot of playing
[00:15:13] with my arms and legs, but after that it was just
[00:15:16] adaptation. Daniel came home
[00:15:20] smiling, happy. I was
[00:15:23] scared, you know? You know how a person can be so strong
[00:15:27] like him, how he can overcome
[00:15:30] all this, you know, suddenly,
[00:15:32] repente,
[00:15:35] the loss of his limbs, believe it or not, is
[00:15:39] only part of the difficulties he faced head-on with his siblings. My
[00:15:42] two parents, actually, are drug addicts, in childhood
[00:15:46] we ended up seeing them in a difficult moment of their lives, and
[00:15:49] they used and we went through
[00:15:53] hardship, the school itself saw that it wasn't working out,
[00:15:56] so they called child protective services, took
[00:15:59] me and Marina, the older siblings, were taken
[00:16:03] to a shelter. This is even one of the reasons why there are no
[00:16:06] photos of them in childhood.
[00:16:10] Susana, the youngest, went to a distant
[00:16:12] uncle's house. That was really bad for
[00:16:16] me, for me, speaking for myself, for me and for him, right, because we were very
[00:16:20] close and ended up being separated. How was your life
[00:16:24] there in a shelter? We have our
[00:16:26] obligations, uh-huh, I didn't like it, because
[00:16:30] they were people I didn't know. I didn't feel
[00:16:33] the love of a family there,
[00:16:36] right? Do you think about your life like that, or
[00:16:39] I think it was at
[00:16:42] the worst moment light arrived, Dona Marlene, the children's
[00:16:46] aunt, fought for custody of the siblings. The first thing that
[00:16:49] crossed my mind was to get them out of there, to get them out, I'll take them, I'll
[00:16:53] bring them, they're mine, I'll bring them to me. It was a three-year
[00:16:57] long process in court until everyone was back together
[00:17:00] again, for love, it wasn't like that, because he is
[00:17:04] family, in the shelter even school he couldn't do anything. Then when I
[00:17:08] came here I learned to read, write, I learned everything,
[00:17:12] I learned to speak well and learned to
[00:17:14] believe, that if you want you will be, I always told
[00:17:18] him that from the first day he went to my
[00:17:22] house, I think that was the last piece missing for
[00:17:26] me to be someone in life, right, because that wasn't a real
[00:17:29] family, but like any good story, life
[00:17:33] reserved a surprise. While still living in the shelter, Amorinha...
[00:17:37] received a skateboard from a volunteer, so I said: "Oh Daniel, this is good for
[00:17:41] you, you'll ride a skateboard," because it never crossed
[00:17:44] my mind that I would be able to buy him a wheelchair.
[00:17:47] And it was skateboarding that
[00:17:50] introduced him to his second
[00:17:52] family, Amorinha. One day I went down to skate at
[00:17:56] the Jockey Club and he was wearing boxing gloves
[00:18:00] fighting, not even on a skateboard, at that moment I found it impressive, like, wow, the guy
[00:18:04] is boxing there, right, he doesn't even have hands, right?
[00:18:07] Okay, I went skateboarding, a little later I saw him skateboarding,
[00:18:10] then I said, man, who is this guy? They
[00:18:14] didn't know, but a beautiful partnership was beginning there,
[00:18:18] skateboarding brothers, life brothers. He is my
[00:18:22] brother from another mother, he
[00:18:25] showed me several things that I thought I would never be
[00:18:28] able to do. Like an older brother, Zaka
[00:18:32] taught Amorinho several tricks and taught him much
[00:18:35] more, he showed that skateboarding... would make Amorinha
[00:18:39] fly. He also showed me that I don't need a
[00:18:43] prosthetic to
[00:18:45] run, jump, do skateboarding also showed this and
[00:18:49] he taught me how to do
[00:18:50] this.
[00:18:53] He once told me, right, about him not having
[00:18:57] legs and arms and that skateboarding gave him speed, he made
[00:19:01] a crazy comparison like this, he said, Zaka, imagine if you
[00:19:04] could fly, which is something you can't do, man, wouldn't you like to fly around?
[00:19:08] Skateboarding does that for me, I can't walk, it gives me speed, then I
[00:19:12] said, wow, that's a complete dish of
[00:19:15] motivation, right, man? That's it, so you feel
[00:19:19] like you're flying when you're on a skateboard, I feel like I have my arms and
[00:19:23] legs again. Motivation generates
[00:19:26] happiness which generates achievement. The friends'
[00:19:30] fun turned serious, but
[00:19:33] when I found out I could do tricks, I could
[00:19:36] compete, I became someone in skateboarding and he showed
[00:19:40] me. Today he is a para- skateboarding
[00:19:42] idol. In these big skateboarding
[00:19:46] events that we go to, we went to the world championship, we have a much bigger
[00:19:49] thermometer of his reach, of his importance to people, you
[00:19:53] can't walk much with the guy, everyone stops, "Oh Amorinha, what
[00:19:57] a pleasure to meet you in person, we're walking on the street, etc. etc." then someone
[00:20:01] "Oh Amorinha, how are you Amorinha?" I'm like, my brother is
[00:20:04] really moving to be with him, I think everything I
[00:20:08] do today and everything I did was because of my mind, many times
[00:20:12] I stop out of nowhere, I say, "Look, I said,
[00:20:15] wow, I did all this with this stub here, with this
[00:20:19] arm here," so the mind is powerful,
[00:20:22] Amorinha, an unlimited
[00:20:25] mind.
[00:20:33] We knew, something big was going to happen
[00:20:36] in São Paulo. An extremely organized gang was going to steal 1 billion
[00:20:40] reais from the coffers of Banco do Brasil, this tunnel is different from
[00:20:44] all the others, for the first time, one of the robbers from the gang will
[00:20:48] tell everything that happened without...
[00:21:16] the biggest bank robbery in world history.
[00:21:34] Good evening, another episode of doc
[00:21:37] investigation begins, today you will learn what would be the
[00:21:41] Brazilian version of Money Heist, an ambitious
[00:21:45] plan, to enter the vault of a banking
[00:21:48] institution in São Paulo. To take 1
[00:21:51] billion reais from there. The gang brought together
[00:21:55] experienced thieves, they spent months digging a tunnel
[00:21:59] and came very close to committing the biggest robbery in
[00:22:03] history.
[00:22:05] Looking at it, you think, this is impossible,
[00:22:08] right? They said that there was São Paulo's entire economy
[00:22:12] there, no one had ever tried it this
[00:22:15] way, right, it was more about explosions, right?
[00:22:19] And then the idea came to do
[00:22:22] it underground, like a
[00:22:25] armadillo, we wanted to do something out of the ordinary,
[00:22:28] not leave a trace, the intention
[00:22:31] was to arrive without being received and leave without being
[00:22:33] seen.
[00:22:36] Yeah, but we didn't expect it to have all this repercussion.
[00:22:54] At the time, we were monitoring a gang that used to
[00:22:57] cut into ATMs, they first used hole saws,
[00:23:01] then started using a plasma
[00:23:04] torch,
[00:23:06] a different gang and we ended up arresting one of the
[00:23:10] components named Alex, his son is
[00:23:13] Amorinho, we arrested him in the municipality of Praia
[00:23:15] Grande.
[00:23:20] Years ago he was well known to the police with
[00:23:23] records for robbery and criminal
[00:23:25] association.
[00:23:29] We brought him to the police station when he was caught in the act for illegal possession of a
[00:23:32] weapon, and we noticed that he was very strange, very
[00:23:36] strange, and he was desperate, he wanted us to release him
[00:23:40] by all means, he even tried
[00:23:43] to bribe the police officers, so we decided not to
[00:23:46] charge him with passive corruption and... to schedule his
[00:23:50] hearing at the court, and just like that, the hearing ended,
[00:23:54] he was released at the custody hearing and
[00:23:58] he headed to the North Zone and a team of ours was following
[00:24:02] him.
[00:24:06] Our police officers started living this guy's life and he led
[00:24:10] us to the first property, the warehouse in the North Zone, this
[00:24:14] target of ours enters the warehouse and stays for
[00:24:17] a while, we knew that... something big was going
[00:24:21] to happen in São Paulo, they were going to execute the
[00:24:24] crime, they were going to steal a lot of money from somewhere.
[00:24:27] At the same
[00:24:31] time, an
[00:24:33] informant approaches a police officer and says:
[00:24:37] "A billionaire robbery is about to happen in São Paulo." Was
[00:24:41] that it? It seemed unbelievable, but we
[00:24:44] decided to investigate, we had a duty, right, to
[00:24:47] investigate. From then on, a silent police
[00:24:51] operation began to prevent what would be the robbery of the century, yes, it would be a
[00:24:54] gigantic robbery unprecedented in police history, the informant when
[00:24:58] he seeks the police, he always has some interest, the informant is
[00:25:02] a collaborator, he is sometimes a
[00:25:05] frustrated person, who was excluded from the crime, then when he realizes
[00:25:09] that there will be a gigantic action, that everyone around him will get rich and
[00:25:13] he won't, he perhaps out of envy, he
[00:25:16] ends up passing the information to our police officers. The
[00:25:20] police informant brings two fundamental
[00:25:23] pieces of information: the criminals are going to steal a billion
[00:25:27] and they are going to do it by digging a tunnel, several individuals,
[00:25:31] 15 to 20 individuals would be making this this tunnel that was almost
[00:25:34] ready, in fact, we found it to be a very
[00:25:37] fantastical story due to the values he informed
[00:25:41] us. The informant says 1
[00:25:44] billion, can you believe that right away?
[00:25:47] We think, wow? 1 billion reais is
[00:25:51] a lot of money to carry, physically speaking, it's a lot of money to take from
[00:25:54] somewhere and this is the biggest robbery in the world, this robbery of the century, because what
[00:25:58] happens? To give you an idea of the values, the central bank.
[00:26:02] There in Ceará it was 160 million, the assault on the central
[00:26:06] bank in Fortaleza made headlines worldwide.
[00:26:09] The crime in the capital of Ceará was in
[00:26:12] 2005, there the criminals also used a
[00:26:16] tunnel. We asked this informant to
[00:26:19] get close to this gang and started looking in the capital on
[00:26:23] the other hand, where we could find 1 billion of
[00:26:26] reais here in São Paulo, where there would be 1 billion reais. Only
[00:26:30] one place in the capital of São Paulo had
[00:26:32] so much money, the Banco do Brasil complex in Santo
[00:26:36] Amaro. When the information from the Santo Amaro base
[00:26:39] comes, we get excited again, he said, "Wow, we're back in the game
[00:26:43] right?" So there's
[00:26:44] something,
[00:26:47] but in this game the thieves were ahead.
[00:26:50] For the first time, one of the
[00:26:54] members of the gang will tell everything that happened
[00:26:57] and will not hide. The
[00:27:01] interview will be in a...
[00:27:03] place where a large part of this crime was
[00:27:05] planned.
[00:27:08] I'm Valdomir José da Cruz, better known as
[00:27:11] Mirão. Why did you decide to give this interview now?
[00:27:15] Well, because it's been almost 10 years and
[00:27:19] since this happened, people keep
[00:27:23] wanting to know how it was and they're always curious
[00:27:26] about how it started, how it was planned.
[00:27:30] The house of... Brazilian paper was not Valdomiro's
[00:27:34] first undertaking.
[00:27:37] Since I was 13, I haven't done anything else
[00:27:41] but live in this underworld. Were you ever arrested before? Yes,
[00:27:45] I was. I was arrested
[00:27:48] for the first time in 84 during the
[00:27:51] robbery of the SPT bank, on December
[00:27:55] 10, 84. You're one of the robbers. I'm one of the
[00:27:59] participants. You don't use that word, robber, right? No? You say
[00:28:02] work. Why do you change the word?
[00:28:06] I don't know, I don't like that word. I don't know, it has
[00:28:09] a weight, I think. Valdomiro actively
[00:28:12] participated in the selection of the gang.
[00:28:15] We started to meet, look for some friends here, went to a
[00:28:19] restaurant, a bar, a bodega, were
[00:28:22] playing billiards. He said names, right? He said, "Oh,
[00:28:25] so-and-so, no, this one can come." That's how we
[00:28:28] chose them. What crime is
[00:28:31] this? The crime of the century, right? The biggest robbery in
[00:28:34] history, the biggest robbery in history. This is one
[00:28:38] of the criminals recruited for this gang that intended to take 1
[00:28:41] billion reais from Banco do Brasil.
[00:28:45] There were dangerous people among them. Oh, there were already known people, right, in the
[00:28:49] criminal world, dangerous people. People say
[00:28:52] so.
[00:28:55] A bank robber is at the top of the criminal food chain. If you go into
[00:28:59] a prison and talk to all the prisoners and... ask who here
[00:29:03] has robbed a bank, you'll see that it's
[00:29:06] 0.0001%
[00:29:08] of criminals who have robbed a bank. They tend to be older
[00:29:12] than average, they are already experienced in
[00:29:15] crime.
[00:29:18] This gang usually has several cells too, right? And sometimes they
[00:29:21] even use women too, they rent houses with fake
[00:29:24] documents, right? From these houses they start
[00:29:28] digging tunnels and there's another one that
[00:29:31] is... that will try to escape with money, right?
[00:29:35] So they are very well
[00:29:36] organized.
[00:29:40] Between the idea of committing this robbery and its execution, renting a house
[00:29:44] and starting to dig, how long did this preparation take, more or less? 30
[00:29:47] days. And when the idea came to find a house,
[00:29:51] find the
[00:29:53] financial support, you started
[00:29:57] digging in July, July 15. What was the
[00:30:01] goal there? The goal would be
[00:30:04] to take at least 1 billion reais, right? Why do you say at least 1
[00:30:08] billion? Because according to the
[00:30:11] information, there were around 4
[00:30:14] billion. I looked for the
[00:30:18] security superintendent, who is our friend. I said, "Look, there's a
[00:30:21] suspicion that they're going to attack your
[00:30:24] vault which is there in Santo
[00:30:27] Amaro." At first, it felt
[00:30:31] a bit like... an impossible thing.
[00:30:34] He informed, "Imagine,
[00:30:36] impossible. That's an unassailable place.
[00:30:39] No one gets in there." Then I said, "Okay, but that's the information."
[00:30:43] Obviously we contested a bit about the fact that it's
[00:30:47] a building built in the 70s,
[00:30:50] with a fantastic concrete structure,
[00:30:54] reinforcement, uh, designed to have an
[00:30:57] absurd level of security, right? Level.