RECORDNEWS — broadcast 20261012 080000 UTC 524 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:01] what was the goal there? The goal would be to take [00:00:04] at least 1 billion, right? Why do you say at least 1 [00:00:08] billion? Because according to the [00:00:11] information, it was around 4 [00:00:14] billion. I looked for the [00:00:18] superintendent of security, who is our friend. I said, "Look, there's a [00:00:21] suspicion that they're going to attack your [00:00:26] It's a billion, imagine the stronghold that's there in Santo Amaro [00:00:29] first." It felt a bit like an impossible [00:00:33] thing. Imagine impossible. [00:00:35] Impossible. It's an impregnable place. [00:00:39] Nobody enters there. Then I said, "Okay, but that's the information." Obviously, [00:00:42] we contested a bit [00:00:45] the fact that it was [00:00:49] It was very far from the house to a building built there in the 70s with a [00:00:52] fantastic concrete reinforcement [00:00:54] that was designed to have absurd [00:00:57] security, right? Central bank level, [00:01:01] let's say, to have a possibility of such a [00:01:05] criminal attack. Two hours later, the [00:01:08] guy calls me with a somewhat changed voice, and said, "Look, [00:01:12] uh, there was a problem there in the construction and it's not that safe, it can [00:01:16] happen, because during the construction when they were [00:01:20] laying the foundations, since it used to be a swamp, it sank. [00:01:23] So they had to fill it in to be able to [00:01:26] in the foundation phase, so it ended up not having a... a [00:01:30] basement and not a subfloor. Then they [00:01:33] started to get worried. I said, "Look, let's do the following, I wanted you not to [00:01:37] tell anyone, you have to trust us, he's monitoring, there won't be a [00:01:41] robbery, because every major crime has some [00:01:44] internal [00:01:45] information. [00:01:49] You can't commit a crime like this without privileged information from inside [00:01:53] a gang, there's no way. You have to have someone from inside to [00:01:57] pass on the privileged information to you. [00:02:00] Organize, right? We say, the job, right? The robbery, you understand? [00:02:04] The robbery, well, the robbery in this case, in this case, how was it [00:02:07] done? Ah, in this case, [00:02:10] there were about three employees there [00:02:13] who collaborated. When the information comes [00:02:17] to the police, they say, "The criminals will enter without [00:02:21] triggering any alarm, nothing, no type of alarm." We say, "Look, but [00:02:24] they have heat [00:02:28] sensors." So when we talk... about the heat sensor, [00:02:31] it fits. Again, suspicions point to [00:02:35] Alex, a bank robber arrested in Praia [00:02:38] Grande, released as bait by the police. We [00:02:42] think this guy here is the plasma guy, he's the guy who has the [00:02:45] expertise to cut the vault, [00:02:49] to bypass the alarms. The [00:02:51] police decide to install a camera to monitor the warehouse [00:02:55] that Alex was frequenting in the north [00:02:57] zone. [00:03:00] We see movement of many men, we realized [00:03:03] that it was a gathering of known criminals of ours. [00:03:07] In a day or two, we were sure that it was their base. [00:03:11] Why? Because two criminals we already knew [00:03:14] from previous investigations, Alceu [00:03:18] and Fernando, started to transit. Alceu was a different [00:03:21] criminal. If he were there, something [00:03:25] big would really happen. There [00:03:28] are public records of [00:03:30] him leading rebellions there in the context of the PCC attacks [00:03:33] in 2006. [00:03:36] In the criminal underworld, he was a very respected guy. In May [00:03:40] 2006, the criminal faction issued an order to [00:03:43] attack agents and public security units in São [00:03:46] Paulo. The wave of violence caused deaths [00:03:50] and paralyzed the city. Military [00:03:53] police officers grouped together to protect themselves and did not carry out traditional [00:03:57] patrols. According to the police intelligence service, the criminal [00:04:01] organization summoned bandits for new attacks. Fernando [00:04:05] is not a violent criminal. Drug trafficking, he's not armed drug [00:04:08] trafficking, he's managerial drug trafficking, but [00:04:12] he's the articulator, he's good at talking, and he's [00:04:16] Alceu's trusted guy. And with the information from both, from Fernando [00:04:20] and you know that here you can trust in and Alceu, we go back to our informant and show him, [00:04:23] "Look," and he says, "100%." If this [00:04:25] criminal who is responsible for the plasma is involved [00:04:31] in crime, the chance of these two being the [00:04:34] masterminds increases greatly. That is [00:04:36] their base. [00:04:40] The police monitor a warehouse in the north zone of São Paulo, but the [00:04:43] bank chosen by the gang is 30 km away. The [00:04:47] math doesn't add up, there's a missing piece in this [00:04:50] puzzle, and that's exactly what the investigation needs to [00:04:54] find. [00:05:00] we start to see that these guys enter the [00:05:04] warehouse in the afternoon, but they don't leave. [00:05:08] While they are inside, one of our police officers [00:05:11] noticed a detail: a van always entered, but he noticed [00:05:15] what? That the van's suspension enters high and leaves [00:05:18] low, so the van leaves flattened to the [00:05:21] ground. [00:05:27] you identify the base in the north zone of São Paulo, you knew that the van was leaving from there, [00:05:30] the only way was to follow this van. There we decided that [00:05:34] we would have to identify the place where this van [00:05:38] entered. Then we remodeled [00:05:41] the operation. In order to follow this displacement until [00:05:45] the end, we came to the conclusion from the very first [00:05:48] moment that it was moving along the marginal, first along the [00:05:51] Tietê River marginal and then along the Pinheiros River marginal. So [00:05:55] we managed to establish observation points [00:05:59] on these two avenues, waiting for the moment when this [00:06:03] van passed. When it came close, the team would [00:06:06] already warn, the second team would already start moving and would [00:06:10] already be waiting for it to pull up behind. [00:06:15] But it was the most difficult thing to follow this van, the driver was [00:06:18] very cunning, very quick, he [00:06:22] was constantly braking, turning into [00:06:25] streets to see if he wasn't being followed. So for us [00:06:28] to be able to follow this van without being noticed, [00:06:32] we had to do a reverse [00:06:34] follow. [00:06:37] So you followed through the rearview mirror, how did you do it? Exactly [00:06:41] the classic follow? Everyone knows, everyone imagines, [00:06:44] is to follow the car immediately in front of you, yes. In this case, [00:06:48] no, we followed the car that was behind us. It was through the rearview mirror, [00:06:52] we had to stay in the rearview mirror looking, hoping it would go our [00:06:55] way. It was a very [00:06:59] long job, it took more than three [00:07:02] weeks. [00:07:04] We ended up arriving at a certain street where this [00:07:08] van entered and disappeared. We couldn't [00:07:12] see... which house it was, because the [00:07:15] houses were closed and it was a street that you couldn't [00:07:18] enter. So we continued, we left a team [00:07:22] on this street. One of our police officers took his [00:07:25] pit bull, brought it from home, walked around with the pit bull, walking [00:07:29] the pit bull, he sees him entering the house, calls the house, so it's from here [00:07:33] that they will [00:07:33] leave. [00:07:39] Initially, the plan was to enter and [00:07:43] stay in the house without anyone leaving. What was the work routine there? [00:07:46] They went down at 9. [00:07:49] Few people were digging, taking turns, [00:07:52] right? Because you have to dig. There was nothing [00:07:56] technological because they weren't digging and they were there pulling, helping to pull [00:07:59] that dirt. Every 1 meter, they would put [00:08:03] shoring, it was wood, iron [00:08:06] base. One dug 2 meters, it's actually [00:08:10] a mole's job, they are moles, they... [00:08:12] like to steal from below, [00:08:16] as they say, right? It's not something, [00:08:19] uh, common. We are talking about a very specific type of [00:08:22] crime, very rarely practiced. [00:08:26] From the reports I've done all these years, discovering organized [00:08:29] crime, I understood that this [00:08:32] crime engineering started in the prisons here in São [00:08:35] Paulo, you know? The prisoners tried to escape in any way [00:08:39] and started digging tunnels. From [00:08:43] a certain point in the prison to the outside [00:08:45] area, that's where we learned. [00:08:48] Who is a mole in the criminal world? A mole [00:08:52] is the guy who has experience in digging, right? And underground, [00:08:55] he has a sense of direction. If you want to dig a tunnel in prison, you [00:08:59] use any type of tool like a shovel, right? A [00:09:02] plate, a piece of plastic, it becomes [00:09:06] a shovel for you to dig, right? And there, similar things were [00:09:09] used, but gardening tools. How was the [00:09:13] tunnel? It was very elaborate. We got there, we were even [00:09:16] admiring sometimes the work, because [00:09:19] no one had an academic background, right? To carry out such [00:09:23] a job and it was very [00:09:26] good. Certainly there were experienced people [00:09:29] in the civil construction industry. One of these criminals [00:09:32] was known for digging tunnels inside prisons, right? Yes, [00:09:36] yes, there was one who had more experience digging, he was at the forefront [00:09:40] and sometimes alternated. Because he was tired, another person had to finish, [00:09:44] right? But he was the specialist in this, [00:09:48] right? The police install a camera [00:09:51] to watch the house too. We [00:09:55] set up a small base in the attic, we get [00:09:58] a big screen, we can split it in half, so we had eyes [00:10:02] on both places. The guys started taking turns at night, [00:10:05] so there was a WhatsApp group that said, "Hey, [00:10:09] it's 2 o'clock, I'll call the next one and say, 'Hey, [00:10:13] it's your turn,' and with the commitment not to sleep, we stayed [00:10:17] 24 hours monitoring, apprehensive, afraid that we would [00:10:21] lose them and they would succeed in the robbery. [00:10:26] Every morning, when the Bank of Brazil informed [00:10:29] us that everything was okay in the vault, it was [00:10:33] a certain relief, because from the first to the last [00:10:36] day, we always worked against the clock and [00:10:40] always worked with the hypothesis, however remote, that [00:10:43] we could wake up in the morning with news from the press, "Look, the robbery [00:10:47] happened." [00:10:51] political repercussion this could have later, at least for our [00:10:54] career. Right? "Oh, the guys robbed a billion, look who knew, [00:10:58] those three delegates, those two [00:11:00] investigators are involved, they knew." Then they'll come to us and say, [00:11:04] "Why didn't you prevent it?" But [00:11:07] the police still couldn't understand the plan of the [00:11:11] thieves. [00:11:14] the base of the Bank of Brazil, it was more than 600 m. The city [00:11:18] engineer told us, "Nobody digs 600 m. To dig 600 [00:11:21] m," he said, "only if the subway team comes, otherwise they don't dig." [00:11:26] What the police still didn't know was that the thieves [00:11:29] didn't need to dig a tunnel of more than 600 m. The [00:11:33] city hall had already done most of the [00:11:36] work. This tunnel was built from the house to the [00:11:40] stormwater drainage and then from the stormwater [00:11:43] drainage to the vault. And this [00:11:47] had a difficult issue for us, because you imagine [00:11:50] that if the criminals were inside the tunnel, you close the [00:11:54] tunnel entrance. They would have nowhere to go, but in this case, no, [00:11:57] because in the stormwater drainage they could leave through any [00:12:01] manhole, so they [00:12:04] could simply walk through the tunnels and exit into the [00:12:07] Pinheiros River, for example, which was the final destination of the [00:12:09] tunnel. What we did? We put one of our police officers [00:12:13] inside the water pipes there to see what it was like. [00:12:17] He came out of there horrified, he said, "You can't go in," he said, [00:12:20] "No way, it's dark, it's [00:12:24] foul, there's no way to get through there." What was the [00:12:27] feeling of being down there? In the first [00:12:30] few days, it caused a certain panic, right? There were [00:12:32] a lot of insects there, [00:12:35] scorpions, rats. We [00:12:38] wore appropriate clothing [00:12:41] with rubber [00:12:43] boots. [00:12:46] How were the conditions there? The worst, [00:12:50] right? The worst, because if it rains, everyone has to run. [00:12:53] If the weather gets bad, someone had to be outside [00:12:57] to warn, stop everything, put away the tools that had to be [00:13:01] put away inside there, and when it rains, the drains [00:13:05] fill up. [00:13:07] There were times when you felt like getting out through the [00:13:11] manhole. How did you manage to stay there for so long, three months? [00:13:14] Everyone focused on the [00:13:17] objective, right? So you ignored any type of [00:13:21] risk or danger that we were running. [00:13:25] According to the informant, the crime would happen on an extended [00:13:28] holiday. The idea was to have [00:13:32] finished on September 7th, and some friends [00:13:35] had to go to Paraguay to buy [00:13:38] some tools they were missing, some drills. We missed the [00:13:42] window of the Independence holiday, it passed [00:13:45] unnoticed. September 7th came and went. The next extended [00:13:49] holiday was October 12th. [00:13:52] The police are racing against time. The situation for the [00:13:55] investigators worsens when the informant doesn't appear [00:13:59] anymore. Our informant ended up being arrested by a Dake [00:14:03] team. When he left the streets, what did we have? We had [00:14:07] cameras, so we had eyes, but our ears were [00:14:11] him. He was our ears, so he would listen and tell us. When we [00:14:14] lose our ears, you're in [00:14:16] the dark. [00:14:19] The police contacted the administration of the financial [00:14:22] complex to request a sweep of the vaults. [00:14:25] I'll do the following: you conduct [00:14:29] routine maintenance and go into the vaults to see if there's [00:14:32] any vault with a sign of violation, because from what [00:14:36] we're hearing from our investigation, [00:14:40] everything is ready for the crime to happen. Sure enough, they arrived [00:14:43] at a vault, and there was already a square on the floor already [00:14:47] cut. It was under the money. The square. Then [00:14:50] he even grabbed a bucket of [00:14:54] water. He poured the water, it all drained down. The guy was in [00:14:57] a panic. How far did you get? Oh, [00:15:01] we got to the belly of the beast, the [00:15:04] bank's belly. You [00:15:07] got under the vault. We got [00:15:09] under. [00:15:12] We said, "Time's up, there's nothing else to do." For the police, [00:15:16] sometimes it's better to let the criminal commit the crime because the penalty [00:15:19] is much greater than for an attempted crime. But due to the [00:15:22] risk of the amount of [00:15:25] money, we said, "It won't happen, we'll catch them before. You can trust [00:15:28] us." [00:15:30] The police decide to act. The suspicion is that the [00:15:34] gang is already under the vault. The robbery [00:15:37] can happen at any moment. A big [00:15:40] operation will begin that will also depend on a bit of [00:15:44] luck. [00:15:48] I sent Pedro with a smaller team to the [00:15:52] South Zone to monitor the house, but the house had no movement, [00:15:55] no one else entered the house for [00:15:57] days. [00:16:01] And you had a house, but you saw nothing. What anguish was it to see a house and not know [00:16:05] that there was a tunnel until the day it broke? That was a... that was a bet, good [00:16:08] question. I went with a much larger team with Wagner [00:16:12] to the North Zone, to the warehouse. We knew that their [00:16:15] meeting was a criminal association. What did we [00:16:19] need? We needed the largest number of people inside [00:16:22] to carry out the action. [00:16:25] We monitored on Friday, there was no [00:16:28] movement. On Saturday, there was no [00:16:32] movement. [00:16:34] On Sunday, there was no movement, and this with... with the bank vault [00:16:38] cracked. We were seriously afraid [00:16:42] that the investigation had gone down the drain. We'll stay until we [00:16:45] catch them. Then on Monday, we spread out [00:16:48] across the North Zone. Then [00:16:51] soon after, two thieves arrived. Then we said, "Wow, [00:16:55] it's starting to heat up." That's when I say investigation is not [00:16:59] just team competence, [00:17:01] legal knowledge, investigative knowledge, you also need [00:17:04] luck. And then what happened [00:17:08] that day? Thieves started arriving, soon after another one arrived, [00:17:11] another one, another one. The gang had scheduled a meeting [00:17:14] that day, which is why several members arrived at the [00:17:18] same time. Then one thief started to arrive, then another [00:17:21] thief, then another thief, then another thief. I said, "Let's start the [00:17:24] operation." The helicopter leaves Campo de Marte, [00:17:28] but arrives in 2 minutes, 1 and a half minutes, arrives over [00:17:32] the warehouse. We [00:17:34] invade, the door is blown open with a battering ram. [00:18:07] They are [00:18:07] handcuffed. [00:18:11] At first I thought it was [00:18:15] something else, a fight, I didn't even think it was [00:18:18] the police, but soon after they already started to come in identifying themselves, so [00:18:22] there was no doubt, right? The moment [00:18:25] we raided the warehouse, when I entered [00:18:29] with the personnel, there were 16 thieves. How many members in the [00:18:32] gang? We were arrested in 16 that the police managed [00:18:36] to catch, yes. Yes, the police caught [00:18:39] 16, but how many were there actually? Oh, there were [00:18:42] a little more than that, maybe double, there were at least [00:18:45] 35, I think, in total. Then we start to see who's [00:18:49] there, then we see, Alceu is there, Fernando is there, who is [00:18:53] Alceu's right-hand man, Alex is there, who was the [00:18:56] person who led us to that warehouse. [00:18:59] They believed what was happening, they didn't know, it took a while for it to sink [00:19:02] in. They just said, "No, we were gathered here to play [00:19:06] soccer. We have." Then every Monday [00:19:10] we would play soccer. But what did we have there? [00:19:13] 16 men gathered, mostly [00:19:17] known criminals gathered in the North [00:19:20] Zone and 50-60 [00:19:24] km away we have an empty [00:19:26] house. The police need to connect the [00:19:30] thieves arrested in the warehouse to the tunnel. [00:19:34] Dr. Fábio says, "Come in, you can come in, we got them here." But [00:19:37] he comes in and says, "Come in." Dr. Pedro calls back to say, [00:19:41] "I found it." It takes about 10 minutes. We look and say, [00:19:45] "Phew, it's not that." Imagine the shame, everyone [00:19:48] knew, everyone knew, the superiors knew, even the [00:19:52] politicians already knew. We had some difficulty getting in, [00:19:56] the house was very well secured, it had been completely adapted, it was difficult [00:19:59] to enter it. I had placed a team at the [00:20:03] rear of the property, so there was no way for them to escape [00:20:07] through the... [00:20:13] We were apprehensive and the bandits were too. Just stay quiet [00:20:16] everyone, nothing will happen to anyone. Okay, okay. Do you have a weapon? No, [00:20:20] no weapon. And we go in with the expectation that as soon as we entered the house, [00:20:23] the first thing that caught our attention was that it [00:20:27] indeed had all the characteristics of a crime [00:20:30] scene: clothes, no furniture, old mattresses, [00:20:33] and a lot of food stocked. [00:20:37] Dirt everywhere, dirt on the walls, [00:20:41] and it immediately gave us the certainty that it was indeed the tunnel's [00:20:45] location. Then, progressing tactically [00:20:48] inside the property. Until we found the tunnel [00:20:51] exposed. So much so that Fernando [00:20:55] is a key point in the story, because at that moment he [00:20:58] hears Dr. Pedro call Dr. Fábio, and Dr. [00:21:01] Fábio says, "Found it!" Pedro probably says he found the tunnel on the [00:21:05] other end of the line, and he says, "But the tunnel is [00:21:09] big." When I say tunnel, Fernando immediately collapses [00:21:12] right in front of me, he falls apart, then he says to [00:21:16] me, "He said, 'Puts, you found it.'" We found it. First I get [00:21:19] dirty. Then comes the denial, right? "No, we have [00:21:22] nothing to do with it, this is a soccer club." Then as you [00:21:25] show what we already had in terms of evidence, then they end up [00:21:29] confessing informally, they end up talking. As I said, they said [00:21:33] to the investigators, "Man, if you had looked for us before, we would have left [00:21:37] a part for you." So they are like, they're not [00:21:40] ashamed. We said, "No, but there was [00:21:44] money for everyone, right?" Then even a part for [00:21:47] you too. In a few hours, the Brazilian [00:21:51] paper house was already news, the behind-the-scenes [00:21:55] of an investigation that prevented what would be the biggest [00:21:59] bank robbery in history. To enter, you have [00:22:02] to bend down, and bend down a lot, very tight. This [00:22:05] hoarding here above was used to [00:22:08] support the earth so that it wouldn't fall [00:22:12] on them. The police discovered that the [00:22:15] gang was well organized, had prepared for this [00:22:18] crime. They had what looked like a stockroom there, [00:22:22] they had several clothes for them to use for digging, some rubber [00:22:26] clothes that are impermeable, all [00:22:29] new and stocked. There were [00:22:33] gloves, several gloves, [00:22:35] masks, protective glasses, there were [00:22:38] both new ones and the ones they had used for the [00:22:42] jobs that were drying. [00:22:45] My boss gave the order to enter the tunnel and see how far [00:22:49] it goes. And this was difficult [00:22:52] for us. I'm 1.90 m tall, the tunnel is very tight. I [00:22:56] managed to get to a certain point, I even [00:22:59] took a photo for him and said, "Look boss, I can't go any further [00:23:03] now, it's very tight." [00:23:06] They went down to the house and made a tunnel [00:23:10] line of 27 meters, then they managed to enter the stormwater [00:23:13] drainage network, and from the stormwater drainage network they walked more than 600 m, if [00:23:17] I'm not mistaken, it was 660 until they reached the exact [00:23:20] point next to the Bank of Brazil. There they [00:23:23] entered another tunnel, this tunnel was 37 [00:23:27] meters until it stopped exactly under one of the [00:23:29] vaults. [00:23:33] It formed a kind of solution in a "Z" shape, [00:23:37] as soon as we reached the manhole that would give us the position [00:23:41] of the base. Then a second hole was made, which would [00:23:45] lead under the vault rooms. [00:23:48] The last surprise of the status would be a way to [00:23:51] enter the vault without being noticed. [00:23:55] There, in these vaults, they have a seismic sensor [00:23:59] system. Any type of excavation [00:24:02] triggers an alarm within the Bank of Brazil's central office, and [00:24:05] there they used something we've never seen, which [00:24:09] expanded the concrete. The [00:24:12] effects of the holes were the same as what is done in prison [00:24:16] with a ratchet. Then, into this hole, you have to put the... [00:24:21] expansive mass. Since the holes are made upside [00:24:24] down, right? So you have to put it inside some little bags, like [00:24:28] little condoms, some little chup-chup bags. You put it [00:24:31] inside that hole, and then after a while, it will expand. [00:24:35] I know the image, that's where it dissolves the concrete, it turns into [00:24:39] sand, it crumbles. Then we [00:24:41] discovered they had made a system like we [00:24:45] see in movies, a system of mirroring images. So [00:24:49] on the day they were going to rob, the [00:24:52] central office in Brasília was always seeing the room [00:24:56] full, without any movement, not what was happening [00:24:59] instantly at that moment. It's what we always see in movies like Mission [00:25:03] Impossible. [00:25:07] After entering the bank vault without alerting the [00:25:10] security, the robbers would need another [00:25:13] solution, like getting so much money out of there [00:25:17] before they were caught. [00:25:23] This money was going to be done as follows: they had a small elevator they made [00:25:27] electric that would lower the money to the [00:25:30] stormwater gallery, these 600 m of the gallery [00:25:34] would have this track, this track would have some carts that they would pull. [00:25:38] We [00:25:40] look and say, man, they were going to take the money with this [00:25:43] here, they're going to create a kind of small [00:25:46] railway inside the... [00:25:50] to pull 600 m. Talking to one of them [00:25:53] there, I don't remember who, he said what are you looking for, he said [00:25:57] how are you going to make this cart move in there? Then he said it's by [00:26:00] rope, he said rope? He tied the rope to the thing [00:26:03] and pulled, it was a lot of money to take out, [00:26:07] right? According to what we knew there, each million in [00:26:10] large bills weighs 25 kg, so you calculate [00:26:14] how many trips we would have to make. [00:26:17] After taking the money through the tunnel, the gang already had a plan [00:26:21] equally audacious, but [00:26:23] possibly very violent. How would [00:26:27] the escape [00:26:30] boxes and put it in the truck. Then they would [00:26:33] park the trucks in front of the house there, as if [00:26:36] they were transporting something for a [00:26:40] move, the trucks would leave. The informant had already [00:26:43] told us: there's a place where there are several cars, each one has their car [00:26:47] there, they will divide the money and each one will go their own way. This place was [00:26:51] discovered, right? This member had a key with this address that led [00:26:55] to these cars. We went to the warehouse and found seven cars, I think seven or eight cars [00:26:59] there, all with products of crime, theft, robbery. [00:27:04] What was the escape plan? Ah, we're going to leave here with 1 billion and whoever is on the [00:27:08] street, if they see a police car, if they see, so there has to be [00:27:12] someone to give support there, there's a heavily [00:27:15] armed group to provide security for the [00:27:19] money's route. Yes, there could be shooting, people could [00:27:22] die. It was just a precaution, but you were [00:27:25] willing to go to confrontation? Ah, if it happened it was inevitable, [00:27:29] right? They would gather with armed apparatus. They would be in for [00:27:33] all or nothing. Imagine this convoy crossing paths with a civil police [00:27:37] or military police patrol, there would be deaths everywhere. [00:27:40] Such a theft costs a lot, [00:27:43] it costs, because afterwards when we discovered [00:27:47] such things there, we went inside the tunnel, we saw the apparatus they [00:27:51] had there, they had to maintain [00:27:53] a house, there were several criminals working on this endeavor, they had [00:27:57] to put in money to get in, it was like a [00:28:00] pool, there was the installment. [00:28:02] of each one, which was more or less 200 thousand reais, the part [00:28:06] that each one gave to be able to participate [00:28:10] in this crime, and some, like himself, paid [00:28:13] quotas for other people to participate, those who didn't [00:28:16] have all the money, right? So there were people richer [00:28:20] than others in crime. What was the final bill? At least 50 million [00:28:24] for each one who participated in the excavation? Yes, I think [00:28:28] perhaps even more, perhaps [00:28:29] more. [00:28:33] Soon in Doc Investigation, [00:28:37] we needed to subject those 16 prisoners [00:28:41] to DNA collection, and the DNA sang beautifully. [00:28:45] bonito. [00:28:54] We are here at Expo Posto 2026, for the third year, [00:28:58] for the second consecutive year, winning the award for best stand at the [00:29:01] fair. A moment where we bring all our solutions here, [00:29:05] our ecosystem of products and services for fuel [00:29:09] retailers. 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