RECORDNEWS — broadcast 20261029 100000 UTC 514 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:02] to roast, you know, specialty coffee, which is what [00:00:05] I like to do the most. I wake up [00:00:08] breathing coffee, I fall asleep thinking about coffee, [00:00:11] and that's my life. [00:00:15] For us, it's a beautiful memory that is renewed [00:00:19] with each cup. [00:00:31] Welcome, today's zapping is already [00:00:35] on air. [00:00:43] With the arrival of Pink October, men tend to [00:00:46] neglect their health even more. That's [00:00:50] why Voltsman, a specialist in male performance, is [00:00:53] anticipating the Blue November promotion with unmissable [00:00:57] conditions. Pay attention to Kelly's [00:01:01] tip: after 30, the body undergoes inevitable changes. Women worry [00:01:04] about menopause, while for you, men, your testosterone [00:01:08] naturally decreases, and with it, energy and libido are very low. [00:01:12] But VTS helps you men produce testosterone naturally, [00:01:15] with just one capsule every three days. It's complete with [00:01:19] vitamins, minerals, and amino acids, all the help your [00:01:22] body needs to function and feel that virility you're [00:01:26] missing. There are three perceived differences: recovery of [00:01:30] sexual desire - there's no point in a body functioning without sexual desire - [00:01:33] improved erection because it has a vasodilator, and reduced [00:01:37] anxiety, avoiding feared premature ejaculation. Call [00:01:40] now 0800 715 [00:01:43] 8059, and during the program, while promotional [00:01:46] stock lasts, you get free shipping and up to [00:01:49] 85% discount. You also get a wonderful smartwatch [00:01:53] that helps you monitor your health. If you don't feel better, [00:01:56] Volts is the only one that gives your money back, eh? [00:02:02] October is pink, but taking care of your health continues [00:02:06] to be a priority for everyone. Rediscover your [00:02:09] virility with Voltman, just call [00:02:12] 0800715-80-59. [00:02:16] Have you ever heard the term [00:02:19] animal to optogenetics? This concept refers to the technique [00:02:22] that uses light for specific cells of the [00:02:25] brain. And a study involving this [00:02:28] technology was the winner of this year's Nobel Prize in Medicine. [00:02:32] The method can help in the development of [00:02:35] more precise treatments for diseases such as [00:02:38] epilepsy, dementia, and Parkinson's disease. The [00:02:42] American Carlot is the [00:02:46] winner of the Nobel Prize in Medicine [00:02:48] of 2026. He had the collaboration of the Germans [00:02:51] Petern and George [00:02:53] Naggel. [00:03:00] was surprised to learn that he was the winner of the world's most [00:03:03] prestigious award. "Actually, [00:03:07] I was sleeping when they called me from Stockholm because I didn't [00:03:10] expect to win anything. So they [00:03:13] called my wife, I don't know how they got her number, but [00:03:17] they called and asked her to pass me the phone. That's how [00:03:20] I received the news." [00:03:23] The news spread quickly inside [00:03:26] the house. [00:03:31] Cow is a psychiatrist, neurologist, and [00:03:34] bioengineer. The scientist's great discovery is capable [00:03:37] of changing the course of medicine and benefiting all of [00:03:41] humanity. It is optogenetics. The [00:03:44] word, which comes from Greek, literally means [00:03:47] to control genetics through light. [00:03:49] Optogenetics is a way to use [00:03:53] light to control the brain. It's certainly a [00:03:57] gain from the point of view of reducing risks, in terms [00:04:00] of reaching substrates, areas, regions, [00:04:03] more specific networks. The [00:04:06] extraordinary thing about this form of treatment is this blue light [00:04:10] beam emitted by a thin optical fiber, like a [00:04:13] needle. The human brain has an average of [00:04:17] 86 billion neurons. When some of them [00:04:20] present failures, they can give rise to neurological [00:04:24] disorders, epilepsy, Parkinson's, [00:04:27] dementia. When the blue light beam penetrates the [00:04:31] brain mass, with surgical precision, [00:04:34] it acts as a kind of switch, turning on and [00:04:38] off the nerve cells responsible for the [00:04:41] failures. [00:04:44] Anyone with a psychiatric or neurological disorder [00:04:48] or who has someone in the family with one of these conditions can [00:04:51] benefit from this technology. [00:04:55] Now you ask: why blue light? The answer is in [00:04:59] nature. Researchers discovered that a certain [00:05:02] type of algae, very common in fresh water, such as rivers [00:05:05] and lakes, developed a system to see [00:05:09] and swim towards sunlight which turns blue [00:05:13] when it penetrates the water. With the exact fragment of this [00:05:16] algae's DNA, it's possible to create a protein that will [00:05:20] be activated, turned on or off by that light [00:05:24] beam. [00:05:26] I tried many things at the same time, and this was the one [00:05:29] that worked best. It was the specific gene of the green [00:05:32] algae, and this was very surprising. I imagined [00:05:36] that this would be the alternative with the least chance of [00:05:38] working. [00:05:41] The algae's G protein is placed in a virus that doesn't cause [00:05:45] diseases. Then the virus is injected into specific [00:05:48] neurons that produce other proteins [00:05:51] considered biological switches. [00:05:54] When the blue light comes on, the cell channels open, generating an [00:05:58] electrical impulse that activates a neuron instantly. [00:06:01] Thus, scientists can reach specific types of [00:06:05] cells in certain areas of the brain where traditional [00:06:08] methods couldn't reach until now. For now, [00:06:12] tests are conducted on animal models, such as rats and [00:06:16] mice. [00:06:19] In the beginning, we were able to make a mouse's whiskers [00:06:23] move. Then, we were able to control [00:06:26] sleep and wake cycles, making mice [00:06:29] wake up or fall asleep. [00:06:32] We interfered with hunger and thirst. We were also able [00:06:35] to study fear, anxiety, and caring [00:06:39] and protective behaviors. [00:06:44] After the initial tests, the algae genes spread to [00:06:47] laboratories around the planet because the scientist [00:06:50] published the results and disseminated the technique in the academic [00:06:54] community. Professor Thiago Moreira from [00:06:58] the Department of Sciences at the University of São Paulo, [00:07:01] USP, has already met Professor [00:07:03] Cal. "When I saw the work he published, [00:07:07] I said: I need to introduce this technique in the laboratory there, in my [00:07:11] laboratory in Brazil, right?" He has conducted tests on [00:07:14] rats. Many of these diseases, [00:07:17] right, eh, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, epilepsy, patients die [00:07:21] from respiratory arrest, especially during sleep, because that's [00:07:24] when breathing is most vulnerable, [00:07:27] right? In this video, he uses the technique to stimulate the [00:07:32] breathe. But the scientist says it's a [00:07:35] long way until the treatment reaches humans. "It's [00:07:39] difficult to say how long it would take, but I believe maybe [00:07:43] a decade. The difficulty is that the brain is very [00:07:46] large, very complex, so a much larger beam [00:07:49] would be needed." If there's a field of medicine where [00:07:53] optogenetics is very advanced, it's ophthalmology. [00:07:57] Clinical trials started in 2021 have already had [00:08:01] three phases completed, including trials with [00:08:04] humans. The new treatment will mainly benefit [00:08:08] people who have very significant visual loss, like Luce Meire who [00:08:12] discovered retinitis pigmentosa at 11 years [00:08:15] old. [00:08:17] Even with only 2% vision, Simeire can [00:08:21] move around the street without major [00:08:23] difficulties. [00:08:26] Inside the house, she can also do [00:08:28] tasks. [00:08:30] At this distance, we are about 1 meter. Can you see me well? Yes, [00:08:34] at this distance I can see you. But if you're on one side of the sidewalk [00:08:38] and I'm on the other, you wouldn't identify me. No, I wouldn't [00:08:41] identify who I'm going to. [00:08:43] Right, retinitis pigmentosa, which affects one in every 4,000 [00:08:47] people worldwide, is a genetic condition that causes the failure [00:08:50] and death of cells responsible for capturing [00:08:54] light, the rods and cones. The death [00:08:57] of these cells leaves residues, the black [00:09:00] spots in the photo on the left. You can see the difference compared to the [00:09:04] image on the right of a normal [00:09:06] retina. [00:09:09] The optogenetics treatment is simple. The [00:09:13] virus with the algae protein is injected into the eye and [00:09:16] directly reaches the superficial layers of the retina. [00:09:21] Light reprograms these cells which then take on the role of [00:09:24] dead cells and capture vision. It's not a [00:09:28] treatment that will lead to a cure for the patient, but [00:09:31] it's a solution for these patients who are in a state of blindness [00:09:35] to regain minimal vision so they can [00:09:38] move around, so they can have a very good quality of life. [00:09:43] As with every scientific discovery, this one can also [00:09:46] be used to harm humanity. The optogenetics [00:09:50] technique was not strictly developed to be implemented [00:09:54] directly in humans. It's an ethical problem because there are studies with [00:09:57] mice, for example, that show it's possible to implement false memories in these [00:10:00] animals. So, how would it be if the human brain were [00:10:04] manipulated? [00:10:08] For Lucimeire, the expectation of having a little more vision brings with it [00:10:11] a realization. [00:10:15] "It's a dream, right? I'll see, [00:10:18] I'll be able to live this with my grandchildren, with my granddaughters, [00:10:22] right? What I couldn't see with my [00:10:26] children, right?" Carl Decirotte is a scientist [00:10:30] passionate about what he does, and he leaves a tip for those who believe [00:10:33] in science. [00:10:36] "The researchers who studied these algae never imagined that they [00:10:40] could be useful for psychiatry. [00:10:43] It's a demonstration of the importance of following unconventional [00:10:47] paths and taking risks, because that's how [00:10:50] we can make great strides in scientific [00:10:53] advancement." [00:10:55] With the arrival of Pink October, men tend to [00:10:59] neglect their health even more. That's [00:11:02] why Voltsman, a specialist in male performance, is [00:11:06] anticipating the Blue November promotion, with unmissable [00:11:10] conditions. Pay attention to Kelly's [00:11:13] tip. After 30, the body undergoes inevitable [00:11:16] changes. Women worry about menopause, while for you, men, [00:11:20] your testosterone naturally decreases, and with it, energy [00:11:23] and libido are very low. But Voltsman helps men to start [00:11:27] producing testosterone naturally, with just one capsule every [00:11:30] three days. It's complete with vitamins, minerals, and [00:11:34] amino acids, all the help your body needs to function and [00:11:37] feel that virility you're missing. There are three perceived [00:11:41] differences: recovery of sexual desire - there's no point in a body [00:11:44] functioning without sexual desire - improved erection because it has a vasodilator, [00:11:48] and reduced anxiety, avoiding premature [00:11:52] ejaculation. Call now 0800 700 [00:11:55] 15 80 59, and during the program, while promotional [00:11:58] stock lasts, you get free shipping and up to [00:12:01] 85% discount. You also get a [00:12:04] wonderful smartwatch that helps you monitor your health. If you don't [00:12:08] feel better, Volts is the only one that gives your [00:12:11] money back. [00:12:14] October is pink, but taking care of your health continues [00:12:18] to be a priority for everyone. Rediscover your [00:12:21] virility with Voltman, just call 08... [00:12:25] 715 8059. [00:12:29] You've probably played with lining up dominoes and then [00:12:32] knocking them down, creating that so-called domino [00:12:35] effect. But did you know that it's possible to make this [00:12:38] game more challenging? [00:12:41] The Manual do Mundo channel will show us how it works. [00:12:56] 1 2 3 [00:12:58] and [00:13:01] well, it's not exactly what I expected, right? Sid from Não Salvo was [00:13:05] doing a live, and he showed a crazy video where a guy picks up [00:13:09] several stones, places them one in front of the other like a domino line, [00:13:13] and when he presses, right, when he hits the first stone, they start to [00:13:17] fall, forming that classic domino pattern of one stone [00:13:20] falling on top of the other. The detail is that when it reaches the last stone, something [00:13:24] crazy happens. So they're all like that, all neatly [00:13:28] stacked, right, one lying on the other's back. It reaches the last one, it unhooks, and then [00:13:31] the one behind unhooks, and the one behind unhooks. So this pretty pattern starts to [00:13:35] unravel, and suddenly a chain reaction [00:13:38] happens. So they start like this, they all fall like this, [00:13:41] suddenly it all falls apart. But it turns out that [00:13:45] in this live, CID challenged us [00:13:48] to try to reproduce and explain how this [00:13:51] thing works. So today I'm here, I got a bunch of bricks [00:13:55] to try to unravel this [00:13:56] mystery. [00:14:03] What happens in theory I found and it seems relatively simple. You place all the [00:14:07] bricks side by side, then lift these bricks. The moment [00:14:11] they start to fall, one falls on the back of the other, they arrange themselves [00:14:15] like this, so that everything is organized and pretty. You [00:14:18] noticed that a kind of trap was created here. The moment [00:14:22] I disconnect this last one, this brick will... fall, which will make this one [00:14:25] fall, which will make this one fall, which will make this one fall. Want to see? In theory [00:14:29] and a little in practice, it worked well. The thing is, you can't do this with a brick [00:14:33] lying down the way I did it. The brick has to be standing up. Lying down, one doesn't have the strength to knock down the [00:14:36] other. Now standing up, it's a little more complicated, let's test it. [00:14:40] The issue here is that the bricks are not very regular. This means that its edge is [00:14:44] a bit crooked, the brick is a bit pot-bellied, all the measurements of the [00:14:48] brick are wrong, and this will cause some problem, I think. [00:14:52] This brick is one of the best out there, exposed brick. This brick that is on... this wall [00:14:55] here in the background, in theory, is one of the best I can find. Let's see if it [00:14:58] works. [00:15:05] What if I slightly reduce the distance between the bricks? [00:15:07] Will it work? [00:15:13] Let's test with 50 bricks and see what happens. Yesterday I [00:15:17] easily spent about 3 hours researching about this brick [00:15:20] domino. I found out that the correct distance between them has to be exactly [00:15:24] one brick. Then you just lift it very carefully. The [00:15:28] problem is that this brick I got here is a bit irregular, [00:15:31] crumbly, and also it's not easy to keep everything exactly [00:15:34] aligned. I'm following this division between the granite [00:15:38] slabs, but there are some leaves in the [00:15:41] middle, I don't 1, 2, 3 [00:15:45] it happened. [00:15:52] The worst thing that could happen happened. Some bricks didn't fall because they were [00:15:55] too close, and others fell too early because they were too [00:15:58] far away. So I have no [00:16:01] parameter to be able to try again and succeed. There are two things that could [00:16:05] be happening. The first, as I already said, is that the brick is... irregular, it's all crooked. The second [00:16:09] thing that's also complicated is that the brick is slipping. So when it falls, it goes [00:16:13] a little forward, slips, and completely loses its position. At least [00:16:16] with this brick, I don't think it'll work. Some, many weeks [00:16:20] later, I still haven't found the ideal brick, but we made [00:16:24] some concrete blocks to build a little house here in Manual do [00:16:27] Mundo, and we had several of these blocks left over. So [00:16:30] I can't do a domino effect with them because [00:16:34] they are very difficult. One knocks the other down. Its base is very [00:16:37] big, it's too fat for what we need. [00:16:41] But I think that second part of the effect, which is the coolest, of them all falling at once, [00:16:45] I can do. [00:16:57] Oh, the butterflies in my stomach. 1 2 [00:16:59] 3 [00:17:07] And... now I'm leaving it very on the edge, but then it becomes dangerous, it [00:17:11] can fall while I'm setting it up, so I'm also putting these safety [00:17:14] wedges, so if it falls, it only falls to [00:17:17] the pen. [00:17:23] 1 2 3 [00:17:35] And now it's gone. [00:17:37] Now yes, this is a concrete brick. I don't know if I can call it a brick. [00:17:41] This is a block, anyway, it's for paving, not for building [00:17:45] houses. It's extremely heavy, each one must be 3 or [00:17:48] 4 kg, I think that helps a lot when it falls. We [00:17:52] already did some small tests here and it worked, so this is the final [00:17:55] test, our last attempt with [00:17:57] 27 bricks slash blocks slash concrete [00:18:01] tiles. [00:18:06] Its shape is... much more regular than those little bricks I was [00:18:09] using. [00:18:17] 1, 2, [00:18:17] 3 [00:18:23] and [00:18:28] it went, ah, on the first try, on the first try, sensational. Let's try to make a [00:18:32] black background here, because the brick has exactly the same color as the floor and the [00:18:36] wall, maybe it'll look better. [00:18:47] 1 2 3 and it worked. [00:19:06] Today's zapping is over. Thank you very much for [00:19:10] your company. Remember that you can review this and other [00:19:13] editions on our YouTube channel. [00:19:17] See you tomorrow, I'm waiting for you, until [00:19:20] then. [00:19:29] Good morning, nation of determined entrepreneurs from all over the country. [00:19:32] The "Vision and Business" program, with entrepreneurship [00:19:36] lessons, is on Record News. Our topic, today's [00:19:39] topic, is leadership and strategic vision, the [00:19:43] decisions that build great companies. [00:19:46] Building a successful company requires much more than a good [00:19:50] idea. It requires leadership [00:19:53] skills, planning, and [00:19:56] especially knowing how to make decisions at the right [00:19:59] times. In the world of business, every choice [00:20:03] can represent a new opportunity, a great [00:20:06] challenge, a change of direction. Today, [00:20:10] we will follow the second part of our interview with Marcelo [00:20:13] Guerra, continuing a conversation about [00:20:17] entrepreneurship, management, and the challenges of [00:20:20] the industrial sector. We also have the battle of [00:20:23] startups. We will talk about a fundamental topic for those [00:20:27] starting a business: the importance of defining the [00:20:31] responsibilities of each partner from the beginning. [00:20:35] After all, a well-structured partnership can be [00:20:38] decisive for the success of a company. All of this [00:20:42] you can follow starting now on "Vision and Business". [00:20:45] Be persistent, it [00:20:46] works. [00:20:56] Vision and Business, entrepreneurship lessons with [00:21:00] Jangue Diniz. [00:21:02] Dear fellow citizens, we continue our special series, [00:21:06] "Entrepreneurs of Brazil", in [00:21:08] Pernambuco. And in yesterday's program, we learned a [00:21:12] little about the entrepreneurial journey of Marcelo [00:21:15] Guerra. His experience in the industrial sector, the [00:21:18] challenges faced throughout his [00:21:21] career. Today, we will follow the second part of this [00:21:25] conversation, with more reflections on management, [00:21:28] leadership, innovation, and the [00:21:31] future of business. Let's check out the interview. Marcelo, [00:21:34] how do you evaluate the opportunities for expansion in the [00:21:38] state, taking into account that we have here the Suape industrial port complex, [00:21:42] where Valglou is located here in Pernambuco, right? Your [00:21:45] question is challenging, Carol, but look, [00:21:49] eh... when we talk about Suape, it's a privilege for us [00:21:52] Pernambucans to be able to emphasize that this is the jewel of [00:21:55] the crown, and the Suape industrial and port complex really has a [00:21:59] differential, it offers great advantages to [00:22:03] those who want to settle or who are settled here in [00:22:06] our state. There are several factors, especially the [00:22:09] infrastructure, ecodistance in geographical [00:22:12] terms, right, both for Brazil and for the world. It was not [00:22:16] by chance, right, that Valgroupe made the decision to build... a new [00:22:20] plant, starting from scratch, [00:22:23] as we say, a whole new project, and we settled there [00:22:27] from 2015 onwards. But regarding Pernambuco, we [00:22:31] also have to open up and say the [00:22:35] following: Suape is very important, no doubt, it's a [00:22:38] benchmark, but Pernambuco has the possibility and [00:22:42] an advantage to attract investments, because it's no coincidence that [00:22:45] there's an automotive hub in the north of the state, in Goiana, there's a food [00:22:50] hub here in the city of Vitória de Santo Antão, [00:22:53] Glória de Goitá. The decentralization of industries [00:22:57] is a fact, it's a reality. If you go to Caruaru, [00:23:00] Garanhuns, Petrolina is another reference, [00:23:04] irrigated fruit farming, right, agriculture. You [00:23:08] also have in Pernambuco the meatpacking industry. You [00:23:12] have a... a... a Master Boi, for example, it's a [00:23:15] reference, it's a success story. Further on, [00:23:18] in Belo Jardim, we have the... [00:23:20] Moura group is another fantastic industrial [00:23:23] hub. So we cannot simply [00:23:27] say that Pernambuco is only Suape [00:23:30] and only depends on Suape. No, Suape [00:23:33] is the jewel of the crown, as I said, I repeat, perhaps [00:23:36] the most important thing in the North Northeast [00:23:39] as a development hub. Suape, in addition to the port [00:23:43] area, it includes about 84, [00:23:47] 85 business units. Most [00:23:51] of them are industries, it's no coincidence that you have the presence of the [00:23:54] petrochemical industry, the two largest manufacturers of virgin [00:23:58] PET resin, they are located here in Suape. We, [00:24:01] as producers of recycled PET resin, [00:24:05] right, in addition to having a hub of pre-form manufacturers [00:24:08] with large international companies present [00:24:11] here due to the attractiveness, in addition to the [00:24:13] fact that we also have the airport [00:24:17] issue that... that [00:24:20] stands out as the main airport in the North [00:24:23] Northeast with the highest volume of passenger traffic, [00:24:27] reaching around 10 million people per [00:24:30] year. Now, it's vital, fundamental for [00:24:33] us to grow is for the Transnordestina [00:24:36] to actually happen. This east-west axis, [00:24:40] it's indispensable. Transnordestina is a matter of honor for [00:24:43] us Pernambucans. And now, speaking of leadership, [00:24:47] right, in your experience, what are the biggest... challenges in leading [00:24:51] teams and also managing these large-scale [00:24:55] logistics, right? Leading, [00:24:59] being a leader, I would say it's something that [00:25:02] is in the DNA, it's innate, [00:25:05] but most importantly for a leader, I understand that a leader [00:25:09] needs to learn how to delegate, and above all, [00:25:11] listen. He has to give all his [00:25:15] subordinates the opportunity to be heard [00:25:17] and also to be heard. [00:25:20] That is, what do I mean? The challenge of a leader is [00:25:24] to be able to maintain balance, in everything [00:25:27] and for everything in life, you have to seek balance. If you act with [00:25:30] balance and you show that it's important for you to overcome your [00:25:34] challenges, to maintain resilience, to [00:25:38] maintain a persistent way, right, [00:25:41] resistant to adversities, it's [00:25:44] fundamental for the leader to be able to convey this in a [00:25:47] way that makes people more and more confident in [00:25:51] what they do. And then you need to train people, you need [00:25:54] to train your successors, you need to give opportunities, [00:25:58] right, for these people to grow together. I think that's the big role [00:26:02] of... because no one stays forever, right, no one [00:26:05] stays, they won't be eternal. I would say that leadership has [00:26:09] that essence, eh, and people [00:26:12] recognize when you know how to treat [00:26:15] them well, know how to listen to them, know how to [00:26:18] ponder, eh, know how to effectively [00:26:21] delegate. I confess I have a difficulty. that, [00:26:25] delegating to me is very difficult because we were [00:26:29] talking about eh perfectionism, right? [00:26:33] Then we believe what? Gosh, but so-and-so might [00:26:37] not do it as perfectly as I usually do, but Carol, you know what [00:26:40] happens, when you are a leader or when you propose to be a [00:26:44] leader, people look at you [00:26:47] seeking to copy, you [00:26:50] have this trait of perfectionism, as I also have a trait of perfectionism, as [00:26:54] you interact with people and people [00:26:57] also have this identity, they look up to you, that's [00:27:01] why we... need to know how to pass the baton, when I [00:27:05] say delegate it's in the sense of [00:27:08] empowering, training, forming [00:27:11] successors, then you form teams and [00:27:14] people know how to recognize this and are grateful for it, as a [00:27:18] rule, this gratitude is [00:27:20] long-lasting, no matter how long it takes for you to see [00:27:24] that person again, but they will recognize that it was [00:27:27] in you that they looked up to and were able to get to [00:27:31] where they are, because you gave... opportunity, delegating [00:27:34] also means giving opportunities and [00:27:37] that's how people grow, they grow along with the company, they grow along [00:27:41] with the company, they see a future, they need to have [00:27:45] the perspective that they will be [00:27:48] tomorrow the leader who created them or who [00:27:52] trained them, empowered them, right? Then people [00:27:55] are motivated, motivation is everything in life, right, and [00:27:59] especially at work, people need to be very... very [00:28:02] motivated to be able to face the difficulties, the adversities, [00:28:05] because no one lives in a bed of roses, all [00:28:09] of us have phases of their difficulties, how do [00:28:13] you overcome that? You overcome that if you are in a team and there is someone who [00:28:16] has to lead this group of people to [00:28:20] be able to overcome everything in the best way possible, [00:28:23] right, having balance. In view [00:28:26] of all these changes that we've been seeing, right, [00:28:30] technological, environmental, economic, [00:28:32] how do you see the future of Brazilian [00:28:35] industry? Ah, challenging, right, the Brazilian [00:28:38] industry is going through a process where it has to [00:28:42] reinvent itself, right? It has to get out of the rut, it has to get out of the [00:28:45] box, why? Because what we see globally, [00:28:48] right, is a gigantic advance [00:28:52] of these new leaders who are emerging in the [00:28:55] world, that is, Brazil is still not part of the G8, in some [00:28:58] aspects it might be the G9, G10, but in others it's the G15, it's the G20. [00:29:02] So we are falling far behind what is most [00:29:06] advanced, and you don't need to be only in Asia, but if you are in [00:29:09] Asia, you see what has already reached where Japan got, for [00:29:13] example, right, what China is today and what is to come in China, eh [00:29:16] China ends up being a leader in everything it sets out [00:29:20] to do or planned to be a leader, right, the giant [00:29:23] India is a new success story in [00:29:27] Asia, but Brazil needs to bring itself [00:29:30] closer and closer to the... exponents of the European Union market, for [00:29:34] example, it needs to get much closer to what Germany [00:29:37] and France mean in their advances, and without forgetting the [00:29:41] coexistence effectively [00:29:44] with the countries that form North America, eh the main [00:29:47] protagonist, without a doubt we know that it is the United States of America, so that is, [00:29:51] Brazil has to do this in a way that the industry [00:29:54] begins to recover the lost [00:29:57] time, it needs to reinvent itself with great [00:30:01] speed, Brazil has many [00:30:04] opportunities for this in terms of looking [00:30:07] internally, right, we are living in a moment [00:30:11] where tax reform brings [00:30:14] a very strong concern, that is, [00:30:17] there should be, if everything remains as [00:30:20] it is, as of today until 2032, there should [00:30:24] be a large concentration [00:30:27] of industries in the Southeast region, or we can even say in the South- [00:30:30] Southeast region, and why? Because from the North, Northeast, [00:30:34] Midwest regions, the tax incentives that are vital for [00:30:37] the permanence of these business units, these [00:30:40] industries in these regions, they will succumb [00:30:43] from 2032 onwards, there will be no more [00:30:46] tax incentives, right, for these industries to remain [00:30:50] in these regions, except, obviously, the region of the [00:30:54] state of Amazonas, where you have there the free zone, the [00:30:58] companies that are part of the system so...