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[00:04:00] Its foreign
[00:04:02] political strategy is based on balanced relations,
[00:04:06] sovereignty, non- interference, economic strengthening,
[00:04:10] regional
[00:04:12] and mutual
[00:04:15] relations. Last year, on July 3rd, 2020, Russia
[00:04:19] became the first country to officially recognize the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
[00:04:22] At the same time, the countries of Central and South Asia
[00:04:26] made progress
[00:04:32] in their political and economic relations with Afghanistan.
[00:04:36] A lot of progress
[00:04:37] has been made.
[00:04:39] A lot of progress has been made.
[00:05:42] In a few days, we will have the fifth anniversary
[00:05:45] of the victory of the
[00:05:48] Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and the establishment
[00:05:51] of the Islamic Emirate system in Afghanistan.
[00:05:55] Yes, considering the situation
[00:05:58] we had five years ago, that is, at the
[00:06:02] beginning of the arrival of the Islamic
[00:06:05] Emirate, the world did not expect
[00:06:09] this. The world was not prepared for
[00:06:13] the Western countries, which had deployed a very large number
[00:06:16] of forces in Afghanistan, to be defeated.
[00:06:20] The previous government was defeated, and the Emirate
[00:06:23] system came to power. This was not
[00:06:27] a readiness for the world's governments. When the Emirate came
[00:06:31] to power, unfortunately, on the one hand, most
[00:06:34] countries of the world put the Islamic
[00:06:37] Emirate under pressure in a way,
[00:06:41] and in a way,
[00:06:46] incited it. For example, you know that the UN still has not
[00:06:49] handed over the representation of Afghanistan to the Islamic
[00:06:52] Emirate. The foreign
[00:06:55] assets we had were frozen,
[00:06:59] and also, some of the leaders
[00:07:02] of the Islamic Emirate were on the blacklist, and still
[00:07:06] exist. All of this indicated
[00:07:09] that the world
[00:07:12] did not easily want to have good relations
[00:07:16] with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. But based on
[00:07:19] the efforts made by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Afghanistan,
[00:07:22] based on the efforts that
[00:07:26] the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan made in its diplomacy,
[00:07:29] and achieved very significant successes,
[00:07:33] today we see that dozens
[00:07:36] of countries have close relations
[00:07:39] with the Islamic Emirate.
[00:07:42] The representations of the Islamic Emirate have been reopened
[00:07:46] in many countries around the world. All of these were very
[00:07:49] great and unexpected successes. But despite
[00:07:52] these successes, it is not enough. It is true
[00:07:56] that in the field of foreign policy, we achieved
[00:08:00] very great successes, but despite
[00:08:03] these successes, we must take further steps
[00:08:06] to reach a better situation,
[00:08:10] a more brilliant situation. They have strengthened
[00:08:30] and established themselves in the region. Have they been successful
[00:08:33] in these five years? Well, in the region, the successes
[00:08:37] have been very good, especially regarding the Central
[00:08:40] Asian countries. And Afghanistan's relations with
[00:08:44] Central Asian countries have been very good
[00:08:48] and very fruitful. But with other countries,
[00:08:52] well, there have been problems in some issues, and in some issues,
[00:08:55] it has gone well. Currently, we must
[00:08:59] consider that a balanced policy,
[00:09:03] a balanced policy
[00:09:05] to the extent of the value and benefits
[00:09:09] it has for Afghanistan, we can draw for Afghanistan
[00:09:12] in the region and neighboring countries.
[00:09:15] If we try more than necessary, we may be harmed.
[00:09:19] We may suffer losses. Well, Afghanistan's relations
[00:09:22] with the countries of the region, you know, with China, with
[00:09:26] Central Asian countries, with Russia,
[00:09:29] with Iran, have been very close, but despite
[00:09:33] this, unfortunately, these countries
[00:09:37] should have recognized Afghanistan, while these countries still
[00:09:40] have not recognized
[00:10:12] They are right. They want to have relations with Afghanistan,
[00:10:16] and some of them do. But
[00:10:20] the intention is that we should have a moderate government
[00:10:23] in Afghanistan, a stable government. They do not
[00:10:26] have such a good intention for Afghanistan.
[00:10:30] It is true that every country, based on its necessities,
[00:10:33] tries to establish warm relations with another country
[00:10:37] at some points. You see that, especially in the last year,
[00:10:40] Iran's diplomatic situation is in disarray.
[00:10:44] The problems that exist in Iran,
[00:10:48] the war it has with some countries, are somewhat
[00:10:51] a debt that it tries to bring some countries, like
[00:10:55] Afghanistan, closer. But
[00:10:58] we should not be deceived, because unfortunately, what we see
[00:11:01] in history is that our neighboring countries have not
[00:11:05] had very good relations with Afghanistan. Of course,
[00:11:09] this may be different with Central Asian countries, especially
[00:11:12] in the last 10-15 years, that is, after the collapse
[00:11:15] of the former Soviet Union. But in this regard,
[00:11:18] my view is that they should not invest
[00:11:22] more than necessary in them, because the harm that
[00:11:25] the countries of the region can do is to deceive us,
[00:11:29] to deceive us from Western
[00:11:32] countries, from Arab
[00:11:36] Islamic countries. They can deceive us, and international
[00:11:39] relations, you know, are always
[00:11:43] in conflict with each other. International
[00:11:46] competitions exist. Therefore, we must adopt
[00:11:50] a policy that,
[00:11:52] despite having good relations
[00:11:56] with countries, not put all our eggs
[00:12:00] in one basket. How should these competitions you mentioned be managed?
[00:12:03] In this area, how should the Islamic Emirate take steps
[00:12:06] to manage these competitions for the benefit
[00:12:09] of Afghanistan? Well, first, we should not
[00:12:13] be deceived. That is, deceived in the sense that we feel
[00:12:16] that these relations with these countries alone
[00:12:20] secure all our interests. And we should not be appeased.
[00:12:24] In international relations, appeasement is also a serious issue,
[00:12:27] as some countries that have a history of appeasement
[00:12:31] try to appease some officials
[00:12:34] of countries through bribery and so on. And especially
[00:12:37] some of our neighboring countries are very experienced
[00:12:40] in this regard. And
[00:12:43] having knowledge, knowledge of the international
[00:12:46] situation, of Afghanistan's national
[00:12:49] interests, they must have this knowledge
[00:12:53] to be able to establish very stable relations.
[00:12:57] You see, in Afghanistan, in the
[00:13:00] past five years, we have had more than
[00:13:03] 10 conferences, for example, international conferences
[00:13:07] in our neighboring countries, where they came and held
[00:13:10] conferences under various titles. And unfortunately,
[00:13:14] they tried to monopolize Afghanistan, and to some extent,
[00:13:17] they succeeded in this regard. Be sure
[00:13:21] that the countries of the region, apart from Central
[00:13:25] Asia, which is somewhat different, their
[00:13:28] policies are more influenced by Pakistan's policies.
[00:13:32] For example, during the visit
[00:13:35] of Iranian officials to Pakistan, at a time when
[00:13:38] Pakistanis were attacking Afghanistan, bombing
[00:13:42] Afghanistan, martyring our children, when
[00:13:46] Mr. Larijani went to Pakistan, he told the Pakistani
[00:13:49] officials that we give you a blank check on the issue of Afghanistan
[00:13:53] and Pakistan. He did not say to
[00:14:55] Yes, unfortunately, in the last 50 years, since we have always
[00:14:59] been in war, conflict, and destruction,
[00:15:01] we do not have a defined foreign policy
[00:15:04] draft or strategy. And this is a deficiency
[00:15:08] that we have. And this is a flaw
[00:15:11] that every government that has come to power in Afghanistan
[00:15:14] has implemented its foreign policies based on
[00:15:18] its own understanding. But unfortunately,
[00:15:21] a regular and codified
[00:15:25] strategy in Afghanistan's foreign
[00:15:29] policy does not exist, and this is a major harm
[00:15:31] to Afghanistan. How much do the countries
[00:15:35] of the region need Afghanistan's geopolitical position, and
[00:15:38] how should the Islamic Emirate better utilize
[00:15:42] this position as an opportunity? You see, since
[00:15:46] Afghanistan has a very geopolitical and
[00:15:50] geostrategic importance, this can be an
[00:15:53] opportunity or a
[00:15:56] threat. Yes, it is an opportunity when
[00:15:59] neighboring and regional countries
[00:16:02] look at Afghanistan positively and establish
[00:16:06] friendly relations
[00:16:09] based on international norms.
[00:16:13] This is a positive opportunity, and
[00:16:16] everyone benefits from it. It is good
[00:16:19] for Afghanistan, and it is good
[00:16:23] for our neighboring countries.
[00:16:25] Economically, it can have good trade,
[00:16:29] and in terms of security,
[00:16:32] it can bring security. But there is a time
[00:16:36] when, unfortunately, some countries may have
[00:16:40] bad intentions, create negative competition,
[00:16:43] and damage this golden position
[00:16:47] that Afghanistan has in the region. This is its negative
[00:16:49] aspect. And any valuable
[00:16:53] commodity, one reason for its value
[00:16:56] is that it is precious, and everyone wants
[00:16:59] to obtain it. Well, at that time, it can be a threat.
[00:17:03] And the precise question here
[00:17:07] is how
[00:17:12] the Islamic Emirate can use this as a strategic point. Well, in the Central Asian region,
[00:17:16] the Islamic Emirate has acted
[00:17:20] and this is excellent and commendable.
[00:17:22] However, regarding
[00:17:26] some neighboring countries, such as Pakistan, you
[00:17:29] know that, unfortunately, we are facing tension.
[00:17:33] In the case of China and Iran, there is
[00:17:37] success, but we must
[00:17:40] pay attention to not only think
[00:17:44] about trade and importing
[00:17:47] goods. We must also be an exporter of goods.
[00:17:51] We are mostly importers. Every country tries
[00:17:55] to find a consumer market for itself,
[00:17:58] and Afghanistan is more of a consumer market
[00:18:01] than a production
[00:18:04] hub. For
[00:19:08] the past four decades, one of the problems we have had
[00:19:11] in Afghanistan is that Afghanistan's foreign
[00:19:14] relations with the world were excessively
[00:19:18] political. Yes, but one of the achievements
[00:19:21] that the Islamic Emirate currently has is that
[00:19:25] it has tried to establish Afghanistan's relations
[00:19:29] with the world around economics, and this is
[00:19:32] excellent. If the Islamic Emirate succeeds
[00:19:36] in making its relations with the world commercial
[00:19:40] and economic before they become
[00:19:44] political and security-related, this is a very
[00:19:47] positive development. Fortunately, in this regard, my view is that
[00:19:51] the Emirate has acted somewhat
[00:19:54] successfully in this regard, and its emphasis is
[00:19:58] on this, its emphasis is on Afghanistan's
[00:20:01] relations with the world
[00:20:04] being more focused on economic axes.
[00:20:39] Well, unfortunately, Afghanistan's membership
[00:20:42] in international organizations is still
[00:20:45] facing challenges. You know that,
[00:20:48] for example, we have not yet succeeded,
[00:20:52] meaning Afghanistan or the Islamic Emirate
[00:20:55] has not yet succeeded in obtaining membership
[00:20:59] in the Islamic Conference. And the Islamic conferences
[00:21:03] that have been held in these five years, there may be exceptional cases,
[00:21:06] but in general, Afghanistan's representative is not present there.
[00:21:10] This itself is a problem. Unfortunately, we are not
[00:21:13] yet a member of the Shanghai Pact.
[00:21:17] That is, previously, for example,
[00:21:20] we were a member of SAARC, but currently, there are some
[00:21:24] problems in this regard. That is, as I mentioned
[00:21:28] to you at the beginning, the Islamic Emirate,
[00:21:31] considering the initial conditions where the world
[00:21:34] did not want to establish relations with the Islamic Emirate,
[00:21:38] considering those conditions and the conditions
[00:21:41] that the UN has with Afghanistan, the Islamic Emirate has achieved
[00:21:45] very great successes. But these successes
[00:21:48] are not enough.
[00:21:54] The Islamic Emirate must strive to make these countries recognize the Islamic Emirate, or at least the countries of our region. In international
[00:21:57] law, the recognition
[00:22:00] of countries is done
[00:22:04] in two ways. One is de jure
[00:22:07] recognition, which is
[00:22:10] an irreversible and irrevocable
[00:22:14] recognition. Another is de facto
[00:22:18] recognition.
[00:22:50] We are a bit higher, because recognition in
[00:22:54] recognition factor is not done through international
[00:22:57] agreements. Diplomatic delegations do not travel,
[00:23:00] which we do. We have international agreements
[00:23:04] and
[00:23:06] for example, our diplomatic delegations travel.
[00:23:10] We are in a middle ground. This problem must be solved.
[00:23:14] You see that recognizing
[00:23:16] governments in the world
[00:23:20] is not mandatory. Yes,
[00:23:23] that we command a country
[00:23:27] that, for example, it is your duty to recognize
[00:23:30] the Islamic Emirate. Recognizing
[00:23:33] governments for other governments
[00:23:37] is a voluntary act. That is,
[00:23:41] all governments have the right to choose
[00:23:44] which country they recognize and which they do not.
[00:23:48] That is, there is nothing mandatory here. This is
[00:23:51] the diplomatic art of countries, and
[00:23:55] here, it is the art of Afghan diplomats
[00:23:58] to create incentives for foreign
[00:24:02] countries. That is, the recognition
[00:24:05] of countries, and following
[00:24:08] that, warming relations with governments,
[00:24:11] requires that each
[00:24:14] government creates incentives for other governments.
[00:24:18] That is, for example, Afghanistan should
[00:24:33] invest in Afghanistan. In terms of recognition,
[00:24:37] the same thing exists. Professor, how much
[00:24:40] can we count on these organizations?
[00:24:44] If
[00:24:46] in the region, organizations like Shanghai,
[00:25:20] recognize them, you see, we consider the capacity
[00:25:23] of countries, the intentions of countries.
[00:25:27] Yes, China truly has a great
[00:25:30] capacity to persuade some countries to lobby
[00:25:34] for Afghanistan. Russia also has a relatively
[00:25:37] large capacity to lobby, but it hasn't yet.
[00:25:40] Yes, this lobbying from China and
[00:25:44] Russia towards other countries,
[00:25:47] to encourage other countries
[00:27:12] regarding preventing improper practices during
[00:27:16] weddings, funerals, and also
[00:27:19] returning from Hajj and Umrah. Article 1,
[00:27:23] number 16. The wedding ceremony
[00:27:26] should be held without extravagance and showing
[00:27:29] off, in accordance with the groom's ability
[00:27:33] and in the desired place and cars. The bride's family
[00:27:36] cannot force the groom to hold the wedding
[00:27:39] ceremony in a hotel or expensive cars.
[00:27:43] Article 1, number
[00:27:45] 17. The groom should not hold the wedding ceremony in official cars.
[00:30:03] with the participation of all people and
[00:30:06] strata of Afghanistan. Therefore, I ask
[00:30:09] all the people of Afghanistan, especially the people
[00:30:12] of Kabul, to participate in this
[00:30:15] glorious victory celebration.