RTANEWS — broadcast 20260812 110000 UTC 318 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] and you don't know." [00:00:30] someone named I don't know what he was saying, I [00:00:33] forgot, the one who tortured and did things, [00:00:36] he was a very big man sitting on a chair, he [00:00:40] kicked me in the chest and I [00:00:43] fell off the chair. The security chief was sitting [00:00:46] there and said I'm telling you that your case [00:00:49] will be closed. For us, your last investigation here must be one [00:00:53] who says, I said I don't know about anything [00:00:57] else. These things that you have seized, I don't know [00:01:00] about them. He said, how did these things get [00:01:04] seized? How were you? I said I didn't know. My [00:01:08] brother is a Mujahid. [00:01:11] He was the one who tortured a lot [00:01:14] there. After that, they had a thing called a mulberry tree. [00:01:18] He said, take him to the mulberry tree. That mulberry [00:01:21] tree was something like an electric chair. [00:01:23] I was [00:01:27] there when you sat down, I said, "Okay, go." [00:02:00] They took him away. We stayed there all night. [00:02:03] My whole body was hurting. I was not feeling well. I [00:02:07] didn't know what was happening until morning. In the morning, we saw [00:02:10] that they transferred us to Maabest. [00:02:14] We were in Maabest, Logar for one month and 18 days. [00:02:18] In Maabest, [00:02:22] our family came to visit us there. [00:02:25] They came to visit. I saw them coming on Mondays and [00:02:29] Wednesdays. We were there for one month and 18 days. After [00:02:32] that, one day, they called [00:02:36] my name. I was very happy and thought maybe [00:02:40] I would be released. When I went out, I saw that [00:02:43] the police had come. The [00:02:46] police had come. When I saw the [00:02:49] cars, it was written 041. [00:02:53] dragged out. At that time, my foot was swollen. [00:02:57] They dragged me out. They put a sack [00:03:01] on our heads and blindfolded us. There were two [00:03:04] of us. One was named Samad Khushana. [00:03:07] They tortured me a lot. My foot was swollen, and the situation [00:03:11] was very bad. They put us in a dirty car and [00:03:14] threw us inside. It had windows. [00:03:18] They were smoking hashish and things. We felt very [00:03:21] uneasy. They brought us along [00:03:24] the way and transferred us to Directorate [00:03:27] 40. Directorate 4, which [00:04:00] was a high chair, was about the size of a [00:04:03] pepper grinder. They just left me on the [00:04:07] ground. He said, "Your investigation in Logar is over. [00:04:11] We have a prosecutor here. We will investigate." He blindfolded [00:04:15] us and put a big thumb [00:04:18] on my hand and left me on the ground, saying, "If [00:04:22] you don't confess in your own words, you'll stay [00:04:25] here." I said, "What I said in Logar is what it is. I don't [00:04:29] know anything else." [00:04:56] It was one night that I woke up and couldn't move my arm. [00:05:02] My arm was completely flat at that time. It was [00:05:04] not working at all. Then another one, the [00:05:08] one who used to torture, said, "Hit him." [00:05:42] What I said in Logar, I don't know anything [00:05:45] else. [00:05:47] That's how they finished [00:05:49] our hands there. [00:05:52] And then at that time, I got very sick. Because [00:05:56] of the weather, we hadn't seen the weather for a week [00:05:59] or so. We hadn't seen the weather for about 11 [00:06:03] or 12 days. We were in the punitive cells of Directorate [00:06:06] 40. We were allowed [00:06:09] to leave for 5 minutes a week. [00:06:13] In the morning, they would come early in the morning from the [00:06:17] other side. It was for counting people and things. Early [00:06:21] in the morning, they would come and bring you a glass first. [00:06:24] Each of these rooms had two doors. [00:06:27] Each row had 18 rooms, and each [00:06:31] one had two doors. When they brought one glass, they would open [00:06:35] these two doors. Finally, they wouldn't let you sleep. They [00:06:38] would just bring the glasses for one or four people. [00:06:41] They would give [00:07:13] them to you. Well, here [00:07:16] we were in Directorate 40 for about one and a half months. [00:07:20] In Directorate [00:07:22] 40, we were there for about one month and a day. Then [00:07:26] they read the names of the prisoners. The prisoners [00:07:28] were very happy. They thought that we might [00:07:31] be released. When we went out, we saw that [00:07:35] the police had come. They had voluntary chains [00:07:37] on their hands. They had brought [00:07:41] the prisoners to Dals Kul. [00:08:12] Bagram. When we went to [00:08:15] Bagram, when we entered the gate of Bagram, [00:08:18] they handed over the things to us at Directorate [00:08:21] 40. We put on our clothes and things. When we went to the [00:08:25] Bagram gate, when we entered there, they told [00:08:28] us to take off all our clothes and wear prison [00:08:32] clothes, because it's different here. They also [00:08:36] took our scarves and turbans and blindfolded [00:08:39] us. They took us to the [00:08:43] solitary cells. When they took us to the solitary cells, they told [00:08:47] us to put on our clothes. They blindfolded [00:08:49] us. [00:08:53] There was a small thing, they took [00:08:55] us. They opened the door and threw [00:08:59] us inside, behind the door. The [00:09:02] solitary cells had a thing [00:09:06] for food. They would bring bread and things and bring them [00:09:09] inside, tea and things. He reached out [00:09:12] his hand. He opened our eyes. We [00:09:15] saw that it was a solitary cell, about [00:09:18] one and a half by one and a half. [00:09:22] There was a commode. There was a toilet there. You would flush it. [00:09:26] The door was very thick. It [00:09:29] had large, armored doors. They had also left [00:09:33] the Holy Quran next to the commode. [00:09:36] When we saw that situation and these things, when we [00:09:40] saw the urinal and the Quran [00:10:12] there. So that there is no disrespect to the Quran, [00:10:16] we put it a little higher. Sometimes [00:10:18] we would read the Holy Quran. The commode was higher, so we [00:10:22] would sit down and read the Quran. This commode. [00:11:00] We were there for about a month. The prosecutor was [00:11:04] investigating us, what we had done and what [00:11:07] we were doing in Logar. Finally, they made a [00:11:10] case for us. When the case was closed, after [00:11:14] one month, they transferred us to large rooms. [00:11:17] We were in rooms that could hold about 32 [00:11:21] or 31 people. They took us there. [00:11:25] There was a block named Delta. [00:11:29] First, we were in the Amit block for a month. After that, they [00:11:32] called our names. The clothes of Amit were different [00:11:36] from the army. They brought the clothes for each [00:11:40] person. They had numbers. They didn't call names. Everything [00:11:43] was by number. They read our numbers and transferred [00:11:46] us to the Delta block. It was a place named [00:11:50] Delta. It was a block that had 32 [00:11:53] or 31 people inside. It was a block that [00:11:57] was for torture and things. It had windows on its [00:12:00] roof. It had window panes. They took [00:12:04] us there. After three [00:12:08] or four days there, we saw that in the morning, they transferred [00:12:12] us for judgment. That was [00:12:15] when God put a lot of this [00:12:18] in our hearts. [00:12:22] Alhamdulillah, it was the zeal [00:12:24] of Islam. I spent a lot of time with the Mujahideen. [00:12:28] I wasn't thinking about these prisoners and things. That's [00:12:31] why I said, "Mawlawi, there were many Mawlawi sahibs there. [00:12:35] They were very supportive. They encouraged [00:12:37] us a lot. [00:12:40] When he repeated it, he said that they had given [00:12:44] me 18 years in prison. I said it's not a problem. Even if they [00:12:48] give me 100 more years for Islam, we didn't do anything [00:12:51] to be ashamed of. Alhamdulillah, as long as we are alive, this path. [00:13:26] First, they took me to the room where they had a visit. [00:13:29] There were three or four of us. [00:13:32] The window had also come. It was from us. [00:13:35] Then, when they brought us to our [00:13:39] family, they put chains and shackles on us. [00:13:42] They put shackles on my feet. [00:13:45] They brought us to our family. They took [00:13:49] me to the room where my family was sitting. [00:13:53] We saw that our family came. Ten people had come, my [00:13:56] father and mother. They were from our [00:13:59] house. They had brought my son and [00:14:03] daughter. They were very young. When they [00:14:07] first came in, they didn't recognize me because my [00:14:10] hair was long. My cousin had [00:14:14] come. I said, "Wait, my family won't see these shackles [00:14:17] and things." I put my feet under the chair. [00:14:20] My mother sat in front [00:14:23] of me. [00:14:56] They were in a very bad state. We had a [00:14:59] half-hour visit after 13 or 14 months. [00:15:02] They had half an hour for the visit. [00:15:06] There was a soldier behind your head, a female [00:15:09] soldier, and a male soldier sitting there. [00:15:13] They had a half-hour visit. When the [00:15:16] visit was over, they didn't say, for example, [00:15:19] "These are Muslims, they are Islam." [00:15:22] They had a merciful [00:15:25] thing, an electric saw for the prisoner, and said, "Your [00:15:29] visit is over. Get up." They didn't even allow [00:15:33] us one second to sit and talk to our family. [00:15:36] I said, "This is not our thing. You should get [00:15:40] up and not cause us trouble, because foreigners are here, [00:15:42] and they are watching." [00:15:46] Our visit was over, [00:15:48] and they left. They took us to the window. [00:15:52] After a month, they said that we would have a [00:15:56] visit through the Red Cross. They were allowed [00:16:00] three people to visit. [00:16:03] Five people from our family had [00:16:07] come, my father and mother. They were my [00:16:10] own family. My daughter and son had also come. [00:16:14] Five people had come to Bagram prison. When they [00:16:18] came to Bagram itself, we told them that the Red Cross [00:16:22] only allows three people. Since you are [00:16:24] five, you cannot all go in. [00:16:28] So, my mother took my son and [00:16:31] daughter. My father was allowed [00:16:34] to go inside Bagram. [00:16:37] He wasn't allowed. Then they [00:16:41] came back from Bagram with a permit. [00:16:44] Kabul. Then our backs were [00:16:48] cut. My father and mother came to visit us. [00:16:51] I asked, "Where is he?" They said he wasn't [00:16:54] allowed. At the Bagram gate, [00:16:57] they said he wasn't allowed. Well, my father's condition [00:17:01] was very bad. Because at the time I [00:17:05] was arrested, the night I [00:17:07] was arrested, my brother named Shabir Ahmad was 21 [00:17:11] years old. They told me that the [00:17:15] night they told me to kill myself, the [00:17:18] night that same day they told me to kill [00:17:22] myself, I said from behind the motorcycle, "Come, [00:17:26] I said, go from behind." Because I need to sort [00:17:30] out the issues and things so that my family doesn't [00:17:34] have problems. This brother of ours was here when he separated [00:17:38] from us. Our last meeting was here with this [00:17:41] brother of ours, this martyr Shabir Rahmat. [00:17:45] he left us. He got on a motorcycle and said, "Come [00:17:49] after us, because there's a raid here." And he himself had [00:17:52] participated in this war. He said, "Well, I fought [00:17:56] him. Just be careful. Transfer him quickly." We said [00:17:59] goodbye. Our last meeting was here when he [00:18:02] left me. [00:18:05] Then they raided me and I came. [00:18:37] I saw myself, Shabir Ahmad. [00:18:41] They said, "My brother." I saw [00:18:44] him, so I should be the first. My voice [00:18:48] was like, "Shabir is a martyr." I should be out first. [00:18:52] When I went into the garden, there was a stretcher. My brother was very [00:18:56] tall. His age was young, [00:18:59] but he was very tall. When I entered the garden, [00:19:03] I saw someone on a stretcher. His feet [00:19:06] were half a meter [00:19:08] off the stretcher. [00:19:11] They put him on the [00:19:16] stretcher. He was in a shroud. [00:19:19] I saw that it was my brother Shabir. I [00:19:23] woke up. In the morning, visitors came. My father asked, "Where is [00:19:27] Shabir?" He said he's gone. [00:19:30] And Shabir had been martyred about four or five [00:19:34] months ago. He told them. [00:20:21] Every day we see that districts and [00:20:24] provinces are falling. He said they capture these posts every [00:20:27] day. He said, "Don't worry. From our side, [00:20:31] I'm also exercising here. I'm studying. Inshallah, we will [00:20:35] be released soon." [00:20:37] Well, when they left, my father and mother were also [00:20:41] here, but we didn't see them. They went [00:20:43] home. We went inside [00:20:47] the window. After some time, we hadn't been transferred. [00:20:51] When we were in the window, that was the [00:20:54] day of victory for us. It was the last [00:20:58] day of the government that failed. It was the [00:21:01] last day that our people fled from the country. [00:21:05] It was early in the morning when the soldiers [00:21:08] came. I was walking inside the window. [00:21:11] In the morning, we had a study circle. After [00:21:14] everyone, when the adhan came, we stood up and had [00:21:18] a study circle until 8 o'clock. [00:23:50] It was broken. They were selling it. [00:23:52] All the windows were plastic, which was good. We had [00:23:56] five bowls, and 11 of us [00:23:59] were eating from them. They brought our bread. [00:24:03] We broke that window and went [00:24:07] out. We went out into the block, inside [00:24:10] the block. All the other blocks were also double [00:24:13] and plastic. It was impossible to break [00:24:17] them. But the prisoners finally brought the doors in some way. [00:24:50] I had made contact. The small blocks had come out. [00:24:54] They had shot and martyred several people. [00:24:57] They told us not to go out until 2 o'clock. [00:25:01] We waited from 12 o'clock to 2 o'clock. After [00:25:04] that, the boys looted the things and armed themselves. [00:25:07] They went out. The plane [00:25:11] had also bombed, and about [00:25:14] 40 or 50 boys had been martyred there. All [00:25:18] of them were Mujahideen boys. Well, we were very [00:25:21] scattered there. All the boys, my [00:25:25] cousin was there. A Mawlawi sahib from [00:25:28] our area was there. Several others were there. Four or five [00:25:32] of us gathered together and finally escaped from Bagram to the main [00:25:35] road. I saw people [00:25:38] coming. [00:25:40] They gave me a phone and said, "Call [00:25:44] your family. Everyone is saying that the [00:25:48] whole prison has been bombed, and [00:25:50] everyone has been martyred." Then we called our family [00:25:53] and told them that we are alive and [00:25:56] there is no problem. We are going home. Then [00:26:00] we saw that there were no [00:27:02] cars. There were also several fires. We came [00:27:06] home. As we were going home, [00:27:09] we arrived at our own caravanserai, next [00:27:12] to the road. [00:27:15] There was a road where I saw our own [00:27:18] cemetery with flags flying. I asked [00:27:22] my father, "Has someone from our area been martyred? [00:27:25] Has any of our cousins been martyred? What [00:27:28] are these white flags for? Has someone from us been martyred?" [00:27:32] He said, "No, a girl was martyred. She was in a [00:27:36] bandage. She had been shot from the roof and was [00:27:38] martyred." He didn't mention any family [00:27:42] member. I was unaware of these things because [00:27:46] I didn't know anything. I came home [00:27:49] unaware. When I came home, there were many guests. [00:27:53] Many people from our tribe had gathered there. My [00:27:57] father was standing at the door and had told them [00:28:01] not to mention Shabir here. [00:28:32] Let the people offer condolences. Shabir was martyred. [00:28:36] شده [00:28:39] When he said that, my condition got worse because [00:28:43] I had also been in prison. My condition was very bad. [00:28:47] When he said that, the whole [00:28:50] area became dark. My eyes became [00:28:53] dark. I said I didn't know anything about [00:28:57] this big incident. He said, "Well, many other [00:29:00] boys have been martyred,