RTANEWS — broadcast 20260911 133000 UTC 323 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:01:37] and also in terms of psychological torture technology, [00:01:41] for several months he would say we are Tajikistan, [00:01:44] we would say, "Brother, this is Afghanistan, this is Bagram." [00:01:48] He would say, "No, we are American." He was a poor Kuchi, he would say, "They took us from our tent in Helmand [00:01:52] that you are with the Mujahideen." [00:02:31] And from there we are, you and I were witnesses [00:02:35] that our country and you, during [00:02:37] the jihad against the Soviets, witnessed [00:02:41] the jihad of the Afghan nation against the Soviets. [00:02:43] And unfortunately, [00:02:47] various parties and groups were formed, [00:02:51] and the leaders of the parties, in [00:02:53] the end, were not appreciative [00:02:57] enough of the pure jihad of the Afghan people. And many [00:03:01] civil wars were carried out by the parties during [00:03:05] the first Emirate. [00:03:24] unfortunately took place, and caused many [00:03:27] losses and damages to you and I, and the honor and [00:03:31] dignity of the jihad of the Afghan people against the Soviets. [00:03:34] We witnessed at that time [00:03:37] that [00:03:39] the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, for the sake of national [00:03:42] unity and for the sake of preserving the territorial integrity of the country, [00:03:46] and for the sake of liberating the people [00:03:49] from oppression [00:03:52] and tyranny, civil wars [00:03:56] were formed from Kandahar by. [00:05:00] of Afghanistan was formed to solve the problems [00:05:04] of civil wars. And in those [00:05:10] You promised him, for You do not circumstances, those who are elders understand that throughout Afghanistan, and [00:05:13] especially in Kabul, on every street and [00:05:17] even in every alley, there was a need, [00:05:20] if we can say, for a passport and a travel permit [00:05:24] to go from a region, so to speak, [00:05:27] under the control of one party to another. People had no security, [00:05:31] and in the same way, tolls were taken, [00:05:34] innocent people were killed, [00:05:36] houses were destroyed, it was like that. And we had heard these things at that [00:05:40] time, that the wars were raging fiercely, [00:05:44] and Afghanistan was divided into different [00:05:47] parts, under the control of different [00:05:49] parties, and it did not look like a united country. [00:05:53] And therefore, [00:05:56] we heard that the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan was formed. [00:05:59] Its goal and belief is the implementation of Sharia [00:06:03] and national unity, and to free [00:06:06] the people from [00:06:09] the grasp of oppressors who, in the name of [00:06:12] parties, have divided Afghanistan into sections [00:06:15] and are extorting money. [00:08:34] part that the history of our country [00:08:38] suffered a catastrophe [00:08:41] by [00:08:44] the agents of those dissolved parties in [00:08:47] the Bonn Conference and it became a prelude [00:08:50] to the invasion of NATO led by America [00:08:53] and its allies. In fact, [00:08:57] in a way, it can be said that all the world, if not all the world, [00:09:00] the great powers of the world, [00:09:03] and this aggression took place. [00:09:06] The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, in the first stage, if [00:09:10] it had not been involved in war for 20 years, our country and nation [00:09:14] would have made very, very significant progress [00:09:18] by now. But when the aggression [00:09:21] took place, not only many of [00:09:24] our Mujahideen brothers [00:09:28] faced many problems, became displaced, [00:09:31] and some in neighboring countries and some inside [00:09:35] villages, towns, and provinces [00:09:39] became displaced. And it took a long time until they found [00:09:42] another opportunity and became organized again. A time [00:09:46] passed, and an opportunity was lost, [00:09:49] and during this period, many loved ones and friends were [00:09:53] martyred, wounded, and many of [00:09:56] our elders were sent to Guantanamo prison [00:09:59] by the invaders, both inside the country and in [00:10:03] neighboring countries. [00:11:50] The republican government was pursuing based on [00:11:53] records. [00:11:55] We were arrested in Kabul while [00:11:59] we were walking on the street with a few friends, in such a way that [00:12:02] they were younger and further away from us. [00:15:46] we should do this for some work in one of the camps [00:15:49] that was in the north. Now, if [00:15:53] necessary, we will also give its exact name and specifications. [00:15:56] Then, they have left Afghanistan. If it is translated, [00:15:59] they should not be afraid that it was [00:16:22] the market, someone [00:16:24] from security comes. A [00:16:27] number of people come. [00:16:30] And of course, the day before, around where we were in Kabul, [00:16:34] the movement of foreigners increased. Several [00:16:38] tanks came, and several foreigners came and went this way [00:16:42] and that way. Well, we didn't [00:16:45] pay attention. And the next day, when we leave the place and go [00:16:48] to the market, we go to a shop to price essential items, [00:16:52] then we leave. Two people grab [00:16:56] us, and of course, in the usual way, [00:16:59] our [00:17:02] eyes are blindfolded, and they throw us into a car [00:17:05] and take us away. They take us to an unknown [00:17:09] place, where for about a week, [00:17:12] we were in an unknown place, in a small [00:17:16] room, a single person in that place, [00:17:20] so to speak, there was no opening to the outside, [00:17:23] no ventilation, and [00:17:26] almost life there [00:17:30] was naturally difficult, and they take us there, and from [00:17:33] there, at night, at one or two o'clock, [00:17:38] or any time at night, they come slowly, and there [00:17:42] is torture and, so to speak, harassment [00:17:45] and investigation. We are one person, and [00:17:48] the interrogators are two or three or four people. [00:17:52] Each one slaps in turn, and each one asks questions in turn, [00:17:56] and each one insults and [00:17:59] humiliates in turn. And finally, we were in such a place for a week, [00:18:03] we didn't know where that place was. There were both foreigners [00:18:07] and Afghans. After a [00:18:10] week, they took us to the directorate again, to a place. [00:18:13] Well, at that time we didn't know where it was. Later we found out it was Directorate 40. [00:18:17] So, again, of course, [00:18:21] our eyes and ears and everything were covered, and [00:18:25] they threw us into a car and brought us to [00:18:28] another place called Directorate 40. They took us there, and [00:18:31] there, in small rooms, the friends who were [00:18:35] prisoners at that time understand. 12 [00:18:38] people, wounded, sick, old, [00:18:41] young, in a small cell that they threw them into, [00:18:45] that was the place to sit, and there was no place to [00:18:48] rest either. And many times, friends had illnesses, [00:18:51] were wounded, needed to relieve themselves, and they were not [00:18:55] given the opportunity or permission to go outside to relieve [00:18:58] themselves. Unfortunately, it was like that. Well, it was the same way. [00:19:01] One by one, they were taken for interrogation and tortured. [00:19:05] Most of the time, when they brought [00:19:07] the friends back from interrogation, they couldn't [00:19:11] walk on their own. And then three or [00:19:14] four soldiers would bring them back [00:19:18] in the middle of the night, or [00:19:21] towards morning, or any other time, [00:19:24] and throw them to the other friends, who were thirsty, [00:19:28] hungry, wounded, tortured. What did they need? [00:19:31] Unfortunately, it was a barbaric situation. There was no [00:19:34] attention. In the same way, the Directorate [00:19:38] 40 also passed for several [00:19:41] months, where sometimes a foreigner would interrogate, and sometimes a local would come [00:19:45] and, so to speak, [00:19:48] would pursue the same friendship, and whatever they wanted, [00:19:51] the friends had to say that thing. But [00:19:55] praise be to Allah, we witnessed that we were perhaps [00:19:59] weak people, but the Mujahideen friends were motivated, [00:20:02] strong. They did not accept what they were told, [00:20:05] and sometimes they were wounded, sometimes [00:20:09] martyred, sometimes unconscious, tortured, [00:20:12] they were willing to endure anything. But what [00:20:15] security, the occupiers [00:20:19] demanded, to get a confession or to point to other friends, [00:20:22] that was not possible. As [00:20:26] praise be to Allah, we also did not betray the friends who were with us, [00:20:29] and we had no such friendship. And until the end, they would [00:20:33] say their piece, and we would say our piece. This story that I am now [00:20:37] telling you, that there was a story about a camp program, we are telling [00:20:40] that now. At that time, we told those people that we are poor [00:20:44] here. They say, "These people who come to you, they are like this, [00:20:47] these kinds of people come, they are cameras. They don't look poor, [00:20:51] and they look like Taliban, and what happens?" We said, "This is [00:20:54] Afghanistan, everyone has different clothes, has a beard, has a face and [00:20:58] character, and this doesn't mean that they are someone or something or [00:21:01] Mujahideen." In short, praise be to Allah, they [00:21:05] resisted well, and they encouraged each other, saying, "This friend resisted [00:21:09] so much, he didn't betray another friend, why should [00:21:12] we betray them like this?" So most [00:21:16] of the friends would engage in remembrance, recitation, and these [00:21:18] things. And of course, there was no place for recitation, [00:21:22] no place for worship, no place for prayer in a normal way in those [00:21:26] cells, whether it was a single person or those 10-12 [00:21:29] people, it was all terrifying and a confined [00:21:33] and insecure place. Of course, and especially since [00:21:36] everyone was wounded, worried, and [00:21:40] suffering from problems. Well, there was no communication or news [00:21:43] to the outside about where someone was. No one knew [00:21:47] the relatives of where someone was. In the same way, arrests [00:22:01] I must explain this. You also know that America claims [00:22:05] democracy and human rights, but the most brutal [00:22:09] prisons in the world are by America, [00:22:12] like the prison on Kamchatka Island, which is now [00:22:16] dissolved, apparently, like Guantanamo prison. [00:22:20] Like Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, Abu Ghraib, which you and I [00:22:24] have also seen its documentation in Iraq, like [00:22:28] the prisons in Israel, those prisons are also based on American [00:22:31] technology, and the private prisons that were [00:22:34] in Afghanistan, such as those in Helmand [00:22:38] and Logar, in some places in Wazir Akbar Khan and [00:22:41] others. Foreigners had private prisons, it was a money-making scheme. [00:22:45] Besides that, Bagram [00:22:47] prison is one of the most terrifying [00:22:51] prisons in human history, which was established [00:22:54] by America in Afghanistan. Their largest prison in [00:22:57] Afghanistan, their largest base in Afghanistan, [00:23:01] and when a country like [00:23:04] America, with such anti-human [00:23:07] technology, has registered the most terrifying prisons in [00:23:11] the world so far, naturally in [00:23:14] Afghanistan, where they had entered with utmost [00:23:18] brutality. [00:23:20] And they had seen the ultimate defeat, [00:23:23] bitterness, and the jihad of the Afghan people against [00:23:27] them. They had also created [00:23:30] the worst and most brutal prison, which was also the largest, [00:23:33] in Bagram. Now it is possible for you, as [00:23:37] media, to go and see its traces. But these are physical [00:23:41] traces. Physical traces are not as effective on humans [00:23:44] as psychological traces are effective. Psychological tortures [00:23:48] are effective. That is, both physically, Bagram prison is one of the most [00:23:52] terrifying prisons in the history of mankind and the world, because [00:23:55] America is the founder of terrifying prisons in the world, [00:23:59] and also in terms of the technology of psychological torture. [00:24:02] What is seen now, that is [00:24:05] in terms of [00:24:07] physical facilities, which the people of Afghanistan see in Bagram [00:24:11] and the media see. We hope [00:24:15] that that physical condition will be preserved as [00:24:18] evidence of the crime of the invaders [00:24:22] in Afghanistan and their slaves and those who reached [00:24:25] the administration of Kabul by them in Afghanistan. [00:24:29] Their crimes were no less than those of the Americans, but rather more, because these were [00:24:32] Afghans. Therefore, in such a place where you can see its physical [00:24:36] effects, you can infer that the psychological effects and tortures [00:24:40] were to what extent, that most of our friends and [00:24:44] brothers either became martyrs there, we witnessed in [00:24:47] the windows before our eyes many [00:24:53] died psychologically, and [00:24:56] many of them became psychologically disabled, mentally disabled, [00:25:00] and now in society, their families, [00:25:04] society, and they themselves are suffering. In fact, it can be said [00:25:08] that they are living martyrs. And [00:25:12] we had few physical injuries in Bagram, [00:25:16] but mental and psychological injuries, both for the family... [00:25:24] Because of this, since we were there, after all, with [00:25:26] our friends, we were a bit older, we tried [00:25:30] to comfort them at appropriate times [00:25:34] and try to lessen their suffering and listen [00:25:38] to their stories. For that reason, we study [00:25:42] together or teach or study, or we see [00:25:45] that our younger friends and brothers are suffering [00:25:49] from extraordinary psychological distress and we try to [00:25:52] comfort them. For that reason, during the long period [00:25:56] that we were there, and during the 10 years that we were there, these [00:25:59] things became clear. Therefore, when someone [00:26:09] is in the harshest and most brutal prison with physical technology and psychological [00:26:12] suffering, from the moment they are brought [00:26:15] there, humiliation begins. [00:26:19] Firstly, by what means are they taken? [00:26:23] By the means by which they are taken for example, one person [00:26:27] is taken in a car that [00:26:31] does not have any view to the outside. [00:26:44] For several months, he would say, "We are Tajikistan." We would [00:26:48] say, "Brother, this is Afghanistan, this is Bagram." He would say, "No, we [00:26:51] were American." He was a poor Kuchi. He said, "They took us from our tent in [00:26:55] Helmand, that you are with the Mujahideen. Udeude [00:26:58] Waraka, we didn't understand guns, like the stock [00:27:02] of the gun, where the gun is, and what is on this side of the gun, what is a bullet? [00:27:06] He was an old man who had spent his life as a nomad, in a tent. [00:27:10] They had taken him with two other children. He had no one else. [00:27:14] His property, his children, were left in the tent, from [00:27:17] near Shorabak. He would say for several months that we are from Tajikistan. [00:27:21] We would say, "Brother, this is not Tajikistan, how did they bring you, how did they take [00:27:25] you, that this is the land of Afghanistan?" When they were bringing him, they said, "We are taking [00:27:29] you to Tajikistan." He was an old man, [00:27:32] 80 years old, and they hadn't taken anything from him, and he had been tortured, [00:27:36] and one of his children had become mentally disabled. His [00:27:40] condition had deteriorated, he had become insane [00:27:43] in prison, and another one was in the same condition. This kind of horror, [00:27:47] meaning someone doesn't understand, they brought him from Helmand to Bagram, he thinks he's in [00:27:50] Tajikistan. When they put him in [00:27:54] a car and bring him, to this extent, [00:27:57] so to speak, discomfort and [00:28:01] blindfolding and ear-covering. After entering Bagram, [00:28:04] one feels that it's the end of life, there is no [00:28:08] life anymore. Now, I certainly believe that 90 percent [00:28:12] of them, when they first get out of that car, in a [00:28:15] car that has no windows and is like a [00:28:19] graveyard, blindfolded, they bring them in, and there is one or two [00:28:23] or three soldiers with them. Well, they bring [00:28:26] them there, inside Bagram, they put them inside [00:28:28] Bagram. Certainly, now those conditions [00:28:32] are incomprehensible for those who haven't seen it. Those who were prisoners [00:28:36] in Bagram understand. When they first take you out of the car, [00:28:40] they, so to speak, put you in a wheelchair, [00:28:43] and your hands are bound, your eyes are also covered, your ears [00:28:46] are also covered. You don't see, you don't hear, and you don't have the right to ask [00:28:50] questions, and you don't have the right to speak, and two [00:28:53] people take you as if [00:28:56] they have captured a wild animal, not a human being. [00:28:59] Well, you are a human being, your feet are also [00:29:12] understood to be in your own country, it's like they have caught a [00:29:15] lion, two half-savage American [00:29:19] people or their domestic slaves, and one from [00:29:22] the left and one from the right take you with great [00:29:26] insult and humiliation from your shoulders, and this [00:29:30] wheelchair takes you. You don't know where you are going. After [00:29:33] this, they suddenly take you out into a hangar. In that [00:29:37] hangar, first all your clothes, whether [00:29:41] they are security clothes of that time [00:29:45] or civilian clothes, you take off all your clothes, [00:29:48] and excuse me, if only your underwear [00:29:51] and shorts remain, and there, they [00:29:55] throw away everything you have or don't have. [00:29:59] All of this is thrown away. Then [00:30:03] in a small room, there is something here, there is a cold water shower [00:30:07] here. In this cold water shower, this cold water [00:30:10] shower, you are forced to take a shower. [00:30:13] Well, after you shower and come [00:30:17] out, they give you a [00:30:20] piece of clothing, clothing that no one in Afghanistan had seen [00:30:24] or heard of until now. And after this, there is no American clothing anymore. [00:30:28] They give you that clothing that is tight and [00:30:31] rough. It is irritating. [00:30:35] Sometimes it doesn't fit your stomach. We had some [00:30:39] friends there who were very [00:30:41] tall and had a strong physique. The clothes wouldn't [00:30:45] fit them. They had to wear them. There was nothing else to do. [00:30:49] Or the clothes fit them.