RTANEWS — broadcast 20260911 190000 UTC 482 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] is it who sees the people of there are criticisms government. But if and suggestions, Afghanistan in Bagram let us refer [00:00:03] and them to the relevant authority, not to malicious domestic media and domestic failures. However, the Islamic Emirate, this is about the nation that I mentioned. The officials of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, our officials, are working day and night for the improvement of the country's situation, whether it is security, economy, employment, or culture, literature, and national unity. However, at the lower or middle levels, if there are any irregularities, if there are any criticisms, I hope that the authorities designated by the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to hear criticisms and suggestions will listen to them carefully, especially regarding administrative corruption, because in the past, it was very common in Afghanistan. And God forbid, administrative corruption and national disunity should not emerge in the country. And wherever we see, for example, that there are people who are trying to sow discord between the nation and the government, or discord among our officials, God forbid, or that administrative corruption is reported somewhere, well, we hope that it will be dealt with very carefully, as in the past, and with seriousness, so that national disunity does not arise, and administrative corruption does not arise. And other matters, thank God, the ministries and legal authorities are in place, and the country is, thank God, moving forward satisfactorily. And the Islamic Emirate government of Afghanistan has truly progressed successfully so far, despite all the problems. And we are confident that, God willing, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan will become stronger day by day with the support of the people, and development, prosperity, national unity, and glory, and the achievements of the nation of Afghanistan in jihad against the Soviets, in jihad against America, will be a great lesson for the world, that a nation with empty hands, against the latest technology of superpowers, fought jihad for religion and for independence, and was victorious, thank God. sees the media? We [00:00:06] hope that his physical condition will be preserved [00:00:10] as evidence of the crimes of the [00:00:13] aggressors in Afghanistan and their servants, and those who had [00:00:17] reached the administration of Kabul through them. [00:00:20] Their crimes were no less than America's; in fact, [00:00:24] they were more, because these were Afghans. Therefore, in such [00:00:27] a place where you can see physical traces, you can infer [00:00:31] what extent the psychological tortures were, that most [00:00:35] of our friends and brothers were martyred there. We [00:00:38] witnessed many, many martyrs through the windows before our [00:00:42] eyes, and most of them were martyred due to [00:00:46] psychological torture, and many [00:00:49] of them became psychologically impaired and mentally [00:00:53] impaired. And now, their families, society, and they [00:00:57] themselves are suffering. In fact, one could say that they [00:01:00] became living gods. [00:01:03] We had few physically wounded in Bagram, [00:01:07] but we had many intellectually and psychologically [00:01:11] wounded and injured, both for families and for prisoners. [00:01:14] From this point of view, since we were finally [00:01:18] older than our friends there, we tried [00:01:22] to alleviate their pain at appropriate times [00:01:25] and try to reduce their suffering and listen [00:01:29] to their stories. Therefore, we studied together, [00:01:33] or taught, or studied, or saw that our younger [00:01:37] friends and brothers were suffering from [00:01:40] extraordinary psychological distress, and we tried [00:01:44] to comfort them. For this reason, and for the [00:01:46] long period that we were there, and during the [00:01:50] 10 years that we were there, these things became clear. [00:01:54] Therefore, when someone says they were taken to Bagram, [00:01:57] it means they were taken to the harshest and most [00:02:01] brutal prison. With physical technology and psychological [00:02:04] torment, from the moment a person is brought [00:02:07] there, the insults begin. [00:02:11] Firstly, by what means do they take [00:02:14] them? The vehicle they use to take them, for example, [00:02:18] they take a person in a car that [00:02:22] has no view outside, no windows, nothing. They take [00:02:26] them there with their eyes blindfolded and their ears plugged. Their feet... [00:02:36] For several months, he would say, "We are in Tajikistan." [00:02:40] We would say, "Brother, this is Afghanistan, this is Bagram." [00:02:43] He would say, "No, the Americans took us from our tent [00:02:47] in Helmand, saying you were with the Mujahideen." [00:02:50] We didn't even know where the top or bottom [00:02:53] of a gun was, or what was on this side [00:02:56] of the gun, what a bullet was. He was an old [00:03:00] man with a white beard, who had spent his life as a nomad [00:03:03] and was living in a tent. He had two more children who [00:03:06] didn't have mothers, and his children were left in the tent. [00:03:10] From near Shorabak, for several months, he would say [00:03:14] he was in Tajikistan. We would say, "Brother, this is not Tajikistan. [00:03:18] How did they bring him here? How did they take him [00:03:21] from Afghanistan? They told him they would take him to [00:03:24] Tajikistan." He was an 80-year-old man with a white [00:03:28] beard, and he hadn't taken [00:03:30] anything. He had been tortured, and one of his children [00:03:33] had become mentally disabled; his condition had deteriorated. [00:03:36] He had become insane in prison, and another one was in the [00:03:40] same condition. Such a horror! That a person brought from Helmand [00:03:44] to Bagram thinks they are in Tajikistan. When [00:03:47] they are put in a car and brought with such [00:03:50] discomfort and with their eyes and [00:03:54] ears covered, after they enter Bagram, one thinks [00:03:57] that it's the end of life. [00:04:01] I firmly believe that 90% of them, when [00:04:04] they first get out of that car, into [00:04:07] a car that has no windows and is like a graveyard, [00:04:11] with their eyes and ears covered, they are brought [00:04:14] by one, two, or three soldiers. Then [00:04:17] they are brought into Bagram. Inside [00:04:19] Bagram, [00:04:21] surely, those conditions are incomprehensible for those [00:04:25] who haven't seen them. Those who were prisoners in Bagram [00:04:29] understand. When they first get out of the car, [00:04:33] they put you in a wheelchair, and [00:04:36] your eyes are covered, your ears are covered. You can't [00:04:39] see or hear, and you have no right to ask questions, [00:04:43] and no right to speak. And two people, [00:04:47] as if they've caught a lion [00:04:51] from the jungle, not a human, well, you are a human. Your [00:04:55] feet are tied, your hands are tied with handcuffs, [00:04:58] or right handcuffs. Your eyes are covered, your [00:05:02] ears are covered. So what does this mean? You are [00:05:06] in your own country, and it's like two half-savage [00:05:09] American humans have caught you. Or [00:05:16] with great insult and humiliation, they take [00:05:20] you in a wheelchair from your shoulders. You [00:05:24] don't know where you are going. After that, they suddenly [00:05:27] take you out to a hangar. In that hangar, first [00:05:31] of all, all your clothes, whether [00:05:34] they are security clothes of that time or civilian [00:05:38] clothes, all your clothes are taken off. And [00:05:41] you are only allowed to keep one underwear [00:05:45] and knickers. Then they take all of them. [00:05:48] Whether you have something or not, all [00:05:52] of it is thrown away. They take you to a small [00:05:55] room. There is a cold water shower there. [00:05:59] A cold water shower, you have to take [00:06:02] a cold shower. You have to take a shower. [00:06:06] Then after you come out of the shower, [00:06:10] they give you clothes. Clothes that [00:06:13] no one had ever seen or heard of in Afghanistan [00:06:17] before, and after the Americans, they are still not there. [00:06:21] They give you clothes that are tight and rough, [00:06:24] and bothersome. Sometimes those clothes fit [00:06:28] you, sometimes they don't. We had a friend there [00:06:31] who was very tall and [00:06:34] had a good build. The clothes didn't fit him, but [00:06:38] he had to wear them. There was nothing else to do. [00:06:41] Or the clothes would be very big. Anyway, [00:06:45] they would give those clothes. After that, here [00:06:48] there are examinations. And then they go to the cells. [00:06:52] They give a number to each cell. When they give [00:06:55] you a number, they tell you, for example, [00:06:58] your number is [00:07:01] 9076, or something like that. They [00:07:04] tell you that after this, you no longer have a name. [00:07:08] You are this number. If anyone calls you, it's by this [00:07:12] number. You don't say your name, you don't talk. [00:07:16] You are nothing here. You are [00:07:18] just an entity. You are just a number. [00:07:22] You are nothing else. So after [00:07:26] that, with these circumstances, there are other [00:07:29] humiliating stages. And from here, you get a number [00:07:33] and are registered in the system. And then they take [00:07:37] you out. They take you by car for [00:07:40] a while. Then [00:08:12] in reality, it's a place [00:08:15] of horror, and a place of violence, [00:08:18] and a place of inhumane treatment. [00:08:22] Well, let's leave the story of what kind [00:08:25] of place it is. They take you to a [00:08:29] cage or a cell. The cells are physically [00:08:33] visible to you. In this [00:08:36] age of progress and technology, [00:08:39] a human being should be in such a cage. [00:08:43] And in this cage, there are 32, 33, or [00:08:47] 34 people. And each person, according [00:08:51] to the division, has approximately 175 [00:08:55] to 185 centimeters of space. And [00:08:58] sometimes they give them a sponge, [00:09:01] and sometimes they don't give them a sponge. [00:09:05] Again, they give them clothes, and those clothes [00:09:09] are also inappropriate. So one piece of clothing. [00:09:12] Then for prayer, for other purifications, [00:09:16] other clothes are needed. Then it comes to our mind that there was a time [00:09:19] when there was one extra [00:09:23] piece of clothing for 8 people. And [00:09:27] well, there was also repairing, sewing, and changing [00:09:31] these things. And for a Muslim, when [00:09:34] his prayer is missed, when he is obligated [00:09:38] to perform ablution, and he has no means to do so, and he is a Mujahid. [00:09:56] The people of Afghanistan have not seen it, except [00:10:00] for the prisoners of Bagram and the guards who might [00:10:04] be there now. No one has seen that there is [00:10:07] a large hangar inside small three-person cells, [00:10:10] and inside [00:10:13] the cell, there is a division [00:10:16] which means that whether they give [00:10:20] each person a sponge or not, there is only [00:10:23] 175 cm by 185 cm of space. Not more [00:10:27] than that, not less than that. [00:10:30] And above their heads, [00:10:33] there are very strong lights that are on [00:10:37] 24/7, they never turn [00:10:41] off, day and night. And above [00:10:44] their heads, they are constantly sitting on chairs, [00:10:47] or patrolling, either foreigners [00:10:50] or locals. In addition to that, there are [00:10:53] cameras, and the cameras are watching [00:10:57] every person. So one person is constantly [00:11:00] under camera surveillance and under patrol surveillance, [00:11:04] and their space is limited, and they [00:11:08] have no right to speak. If they [00:11:11] were allowed to speak, then it would be good [00:11:15] if they could ask a guard or a prison [00:11:18] official something, or if they were sick or had [00:11:22] other needs. It's not for a day or a week [00:11:26] or a year or two years; it's for years. [00:11:30] How is the food situation? How is it in winter [00:11:33] and summer when they go to the sun? [00:11:36] And occasionally, [00:11:39] as it happened, the water [00:11:43] that was here, this group was here, this [00:11:46] water, sometimes they would turn it off. [00:11:49] There was a place for urination in each [00:11:53] cell, because going outside was not possible. [00:11:56] First the hangar, then the cells inside the hangar. [00:12:00] So if they sometimes cut off the water, [00:12:04] then what happens? Prayer is also here, [00:12:08] and food is eaten here. Sleep and rest are also [00:12:11] here. Your space is limited to this amount. And here, [00:12:14] there are 85-year-old elders, and there [00:12:18] are younger people, sick people, and healthy [00:12:22] people. This is among the psychological sufferings, [00:12:26] each part of which is truly difficult [00:12:29] to describe for a person, and causes pain. And [00:12:33] for friends, perhaps for listeners, it is [00:12:36] incomprehensible, but for those who were prisoners [00:12:39] there, it is understandable. So how can [00:12:42] we give an example? The way they give [00:12:46] food, the way they take them to court and bring [00:12:49] them back, the way they take attendance, and [00:12:52] the way they conduct brutal searches. [00:12:55] This is one of the most inhumane [00:12:58] practices. Daily or every [00:13:02] few days, they would [00:13:05] search all the cells. Everyone there has [00:13:08] a sponge or a blanket, or some books [00:13:12] or a Holy Quran. Well, they have been there [00:13:15] for years. They come and take everything [00:13:19] that the prisoners have in the big [00:13:23] cell. The spaces are small and divided. Then they [00:13:26] throw everything together, and it all becomes [00:13:30] one. And then, repairing books, repairing clothes, [00:13:33] needles and thread, and other things, [00:13:36] they don't bring them. For this [00:13:39] reason, [00:13:41] unfortunately, the cells of Bagram, where [00:13:43] they enter, and from [00:13:46] there, from the entrance, they go to the [00:13:50] shower or to the cell. And [00:13:54] these miseries are constantly repeated. [00:13:57] Searches are repeated, insults are repeated, [00:14:00] harassment is repeated. And [00:14:04] when they request medicine and treatment, [00:14:07] they don't take them. There is a lot of shouting [00:14:11] about being sick. If they take them, they give a few [00:14:15] paracetamol. That's it. If they die or survive, [00:14:19] there is no attention. And this human rights [00:14:22] that was mentioned at that time or at this time, [00:14:25] it was truly just a slogan, especially [00:14:28] for the prisoners in Bagram. [00:14:32] Unfortunately, everything was against human rights. [00:14:35] And unfortunately, this [00:14:39] lasted for years. And [00:14:41] those who were partners with foreigners in the [00:14:44] Kabul administration, they also, unfortunately, [00:14:48] were partners in this crime, even though Sheikh [00:14:51] Sahib has pardoned them. Even if there is a pardon, [00:14:55] that suffering in the families of prisoners [00:14:59] and in the minds of prisoners, that suffering will [00:15:03] surely not be forgotten. And it is certainly [00:15:06] tormenting. Our imprisonment, [00:15:09] well, initially they said 16 years. [00:15:13] After that, in prison, they said you cause [00:15:17] a lot of unrest and commotion. And now, if we did [00:15:20] anything there, it was according to our will [00:15:24] and belief. Allah Almighty gave us spirit [00:15:27] there, for example, to uphold [00:15:31] our beliefs and our support for the Islamic [00:15:34] Emirate and defense of the Islamic Emirate. There, whether [00:15:37] it was in the hallway or in the cell, when there was shouting, [00:15:41] when there was a strike, we would say, "You are wrong, [00:15:45] you are oppressors, you are slaves, and the Islamic [00:15:49] Emirate is right, and the Islamic Emirate will [00:15:52] be victorious." This state of mind was unconscious. [00:15:56] Thank God, they said, "You don't have a reduction, [00:15:59] and finally, as long [00:16:02] as this government exists, you will be here. This [00:16:06] is your final graveyard." We were not alone. There [00:16:09] were also some other brothers of ours who, in [00:16:13] reality, we were nothing. They were great Mujahideen, [00:16:16] and they were either condemned to martyrdom, or like us, [00:16:20] it was said that if your sentence is 20 years [00:16:23] or 30 years, we even had 70-year sentences. Well, [00:16:27] you won't get out; you'll be here. This was [00:16:30] a cruel decision that was made. And here [00:16:34] I must say that I am surprised. It is [00:16:37] truly strange that these infidels are so advanced [00:16:40] in the training of animals and the training [00:16:43] of humans with animal characteristics. These [00:16:47] Americans, these people of Afghanistan, [00:16:50] some of them, the officials [00:16:53] and prison [00:16:55] guards that we saw, they had trained them [00:16:59] in such a way that they were like wild and predatory [00:17:03] animals, far from you. While they were from our [00:17:06] country, our people, their ancestors and fathers [00:17:10] were Muslims. But it was strange that their savagery, [00:17:14] their cruelty, their inhumane treatment, [00:17:17] most of them, if any one of them was human, [00:17:21] most of them had the animalistic behavior that [00:17:24] the Americans had trained them to have, like a [00:17:28] predatory animal, far from humanity, towards [00:17:31] our compatriots who were under American supervision [00:17:35] there. Later, they took over the patrolling [00:17:38] themselves; only Americans were patrolling. And [00:17:42] this was also a hardship for us, that a human [00:17:46] being, someone from Muslim parents, [00:17:49] and infidels, trains him in such a way, [00:17:53] and against his own compatriot, worse than [00:17:57] a wild animal. Well, being with such [00:18:01] a cruel being, it is naturally [00:18:04] very difficult. When you go for a visit, [00:18:08] or to the clinic, or have other needs for years, [00:18:12] when they took you for a visit, for [00:18:15] example, there were no visits there initially. [00:18:19] Most of the prisoners were in such conditions [00:18:23] that they couldn't have visits, meaning there was [00:18:26] no communication. And their families [00:18:29] were far away, or they were so poor [00:18:33] that they couldn't afford to come. Because coming [00:18:38] to Bagram was not easy; it required [00:18:41] many days and many stages to go through. [00:18:44] And this was beyond the capability of a poor, [00:18:47] simple family from a village. Therefore, we saw [00:18:51] people who were truly witnesses, and [00:18:54] they were crying. Whether they were old [00:18:57] or young, for one year, two years, three years, five years, [00:19:01] there was no communication whatsoever. [00:19:05] And no phone visits or visits through [00:19:08] glass were allowed. Other than through glass, [00:19:12] there was nothing else. But those friends [00:19:15] who were also prisoners there understand that [00:19:19] when they are taken from the cell with their [00:19:22] eyes and ears covered, and then brought to the [00:19:26] visiting place, there are small rooms there. [00:19:29] And there, they tie your feet, away [00:19:32] from you, to the ground with chains that are [00:19:36] attached to the ground or welded. They tie [00:19:39] your feet to those chains. Well, they give [00:19:43] you an earpiece. There is a glass there. [00:19:45] One earpiece is for you, and another earpiece [00:19:48] is for the visitor. And another earpiece [00:19:52] is taken by the infidels or these domestic [00:19:54] oppressors. There are cameras, and there [00:19:57] are other restrictions and difficulties. Well, [00:20:01] for a human, for a Muslim, for [00:20:05] an Afghan, it is very difficult that [00:20:09] after years, they can only [00:20:13] briefly see their family, or their [00:20:16] child, or their mother, or their [00:20:20] spouse, for a few minutes. And an infidel [00:20:24] also has an earpiece, openly, or [00:20:27] one of their slaves also has the other [00:20:31] earpiece. And if a word seems [00:20:34] bad to them, or even if it's not [00:20:37] a political word, if they want to [00:20:41] harass you, they cut off your conversation [00:20:45] and pull the curtain. There were curtains [00:20:47] on those windows. They close the curtains. [00:20:50] You saw for one minute. The sound [00:20:54] either goes through the glass or it doesn't. So right [00:20:58] there, your family, your child, [00:21:01] your mother, your spouse, see you [00:21:05] after years, in those clothes, [00:21:08] with those tied feet and hands. [00:21:12] What a state that puts them in! [00:21:15] So this meeting that took place there, [00:21:19] both for us and for others, [00:21:22] was itself a psychological torment. [00:21:25] Many friends didn't go, saying that [00:21:28] such a meeting is not appropriate, [00:21:31] it's just extra suffering. And [00:21:34] many and all of them were out [00:21:38] of touch with their families for years. [00:21:42] And the meeting that took place after [00:21:45] several years for us was also truly [00:21:49] a psychological torment and torture. [00:21:52] But in reality, it was [00:21:56] democracy that America and its slaves [00:22:00] were chanting about in Afghanistan. [00:22:03] One thing happened that, fortunately, [00:22:07] when the Doha negotiations started, day by [00:22:11] day, the presence of foreigners decreased, [00:22:14] their patrolling decreased, and the locals, [00:22:17] those people who had some sense [00:22:21] and understanding, slowly showed [00:22:24] some leniency, or for example, [00:22:27] when they came [00:22:30] to the cell, you could ask them something, [00:22:34] you could tell them a need. [00:22:37] When some opportunity and leeway arose, [00:22:41] the outdoor situation got a little better. [00:22:44] For this reason, in the last year, [00:22:48] books and lessons were provided better [00:22:51] than before. So [00:22:55] the friends gained some clarity that [00:22:59] this government, so to speak, [00:23:02] has become somewhat weaker and has no [00:23:06] spirit. This hope increased [00:23:09] for both those friends who were condemned to martyrdom [00:23:13] and those who had long sentences. [00:23:17] They became hopeful, until finally, [00:23:32] God Almighty showed mercy through [00:23:36] the prayers of the martyrs' families, through [00:23:39] the prayers of the prisoners, through the prayers of the people [00:23:43] of Afghanistan. The people of Afghanistan [00:23:47] were unhappy with this oppression and [00:23:50] this brutality of foreigners. Generally, [00:23:53] with the prayers of the people, the elders, [00:23:57] and the survivors, finally, victory [00:24:01] came, victory was achieved, and [00:24:04] all the prisoners, thank God, were [00:24:08] released. And we were also released [00:24:11] at the time of victory, thank [00:24:15] God. And no one believed that we [00:24:19] were released. [00:24:23] Now we are out, and after 10 [00:24:26] years, these lights are off, the lights [00:24:30] that were on 24/7 are off, and [00:24:34] we are no longer in cages; we are outside. Friends [00:24:38] felt it, and of course, during [00:24:41] the time of liberation, some were martyred, [00:24:45] and everyone else, [00:24:48] thank God, was released [00:24:52] at the time of victory. Before [00:24:55] that, only a few people were [00:25:08] released from Bagram. It was very difficult. [00:25:11] Even if many had finished their sentences, [00:25:15] they were still not released. Victory came, thank [00:25:18] God. The people of Afghanistan [00:25:28] were liberated from all over Afghanistan. [00:25:31] We were also liberated. And for that reason, [00:25:35] whenever friends sometimes say that income is [00:25:39] low or there are no jobs, we say that [00:25:43] the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan liberated [00:25:46] the nation, it liberated us. [00:25:49] Well, it is not necessary [00:25:52] to expect anything else from the Islamic [00:25:55] Emirate. The fact that it liberated [00:25:59] us from the captivity of the infidels and [00:26:02] from those iron cages is everything [00:26:06] for us. And we are grateful to [00:26:09] Allah Almighty, and we are truly grateful [00:26:13] to the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. We [00:26:17] are grateful to the officials who, in Doha and [00:26:20] abroad, whether through jihad or negotiation, [00:26:24] provided the grounds for victory and success, [00:26:27] so that the nation of Afghanistan was liberated, [00:26:31] the aggressors were defeated, and the [00:26:34] Islamic government was established. We [00:26:38] were also naturally liberated. [00:26:41] One thing that is common [00:26:45] among the people of Afghanistan is that [00:26:48] a fish in the sea doesn't appreciate [00:26:52] water. The nation of Afghanistan [00:26:56] is now under the Islamic government. [00:27:00] They have seen the Soviet invasion, [00:27:03] they have seen the American invasion, but perhaps [00:27:07] the youth have not felt it to [00:27:11] that extent, the insecurity, the looting, [00:27:15] the division of power, the islands of [00:27:18] power, the bullying. And at that [00:27:21] time, the youth might not have felt [00:27:25] it. If they were 15 years old [00:27:28] at the time of victory, they were [00:27:32] children then. Now that they are 20 [00:27:35] years old, they might not understand. [00:27:39] Our brothers, the youth. [00:27:42] Our nation throughout Afghanistan [00:27:45] and throughout the world, the reality [00:27:49] is this: our age has passed. [00:27:52] We don't have that much hope for life [00:27:55] and expectation of privileges anymore. [00:27:59] As an Afghan, as someone with a [00:28:02] white beard, we have experienced the [00:28:06] Soviet era, the Mujahideen era, [00:28:10] the Islamic Emirate era, and we have [00:28:13] seen the invasions. We advise you [00:28:17] to appreciate the Islamic Emirate system. [00:28:20] If there is any criticism, if there [00:28:23] is any suggestion, refer it to the [00:28:26] relevant authority, not to malicious domestic [00:28:30] or foreign media. And if you can [00:28:34] contribute to the development of the country [00:28:38] in any way, whether you have [00:28:41] expertise, capital, ideas, or plans, [00:28:45] and to whatever extent, whether inside [00:28:48] or outside, for the prosperity, development, [00:28:52] and welfare of our country, let us all [00:28:55] be united and work hard. Let us [00:28:58] appreciate our government and maintain national [00:29:02] unity throughout the country. Let us [00:29:06] prioritize national interests over our [00:29:09] personal interests. Let us be united [00:29:13] like other nations and other countries [00:29:16] around the world, and support our