RTANEWS — broadcast
20260920 020000 UTC
300 transcript segments
Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking
Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive.
Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record.

[00:00:04] Defense of Islamic and national values, preservation of
[00:00:07] independence, national sovereignty, territorial integrity,
[00:00:11] and providing better security is our national
[00:00:14] and Islamic mission.
[00:00:44] In the name of God, the Great and Exalted, dear viewers, welcome to the Kavosh program with me, Karimullah Ibrahimi. Russia and
[00:00:48] China at the UN Security Council meeting
[00:00:51] emphasized the importance of interaction and constructive dialogue with
[00:00:54] Afghanistan. This shows that some
[00:00:58] important members of the Security Council consider political
[00:01:01] and economic interaction as one of the ways to advance the issue
[00:01:05] of Afghanistan. The representative of Russia
[00:01:09] called for dialogue based on trust and without
[00:01:12] pressure and threats, and emphasized that there is no
[00:01:16] alternative for real and practical interaction with Afghanistan.
[00:01:19] On the other hand, China also emphasized
[00:01:22] continuing talks, showing goodwill, and
[00:01:26] adopting a patient approach, and
[00:01:29] called for the release of frozen assets of Afghanistan,
[00:01:32] lifting unilateral sanctions, and resuming
[00:01:35] aid. We will talk more about this topic
[00:01:39] here in the program. Fortunately, we are joined
[00:01:43] here in the studio by Mr. Roman
[00:01:46] Shirzad, a political analyst, who is present here in the studio.
[00:01:49] Mr. Shirzad, welcome to the program and don't be tired. Well, Mr. Shirzad,
[00:01:53] you heard the introduction and
[00:01:55] you are also aware of such statements from Russia and China.
[00:01:59] هستین.
[00:03:00] The great project and
[00:03:01] also
[00:03:04] oil wells in the north and
[00:03:07] various mines in Badakhshan and other places.
[00:03:11] And on the international stage and in every forum,
[00:03:14] China has politically and morally defended Afghanistan,
[00:03:18] and has invited the people to interaction.
[00:03:22] And this is something that even Pakistan should be forced to interact with us.
[00:03:26] Other countries do not recognize us.
[00:04:00] In that forum and in that assembly where Pakistan always
[00:04:04] defames Afghanistan and on every stage
[00:04:08] portrays Afghanistan as dangerous, that God forbid it is in these proxy
[00:04:12] groups and how and why and every action that takes place in Pakistan
[00:04:15] is blamed on us, there, two
[00:04:18] countries that also have veto power, which are China and Russia,
[00:04:21] defend us well. People then call it lobbying,
[00:04:24] that the countries of China and Russia
[00:04:27] are with the government of Afghanistan.
[00:05:00] It suggests that other countries might instigate them. However, for China,
[00:05:03] the policy of the Islamic Emirate is very
[00:05:07] moderate, economy-
[00:05:08] oriented,
[00:05:11] inclusive of the region and the world. Because China
[00:05:15] is confident, China has no fear of us, of our government, of our ruling power, of
[00:05:19] our people, no kind of disruption.
[00:05:21] On the contrary, it defends our security. This
[00:05:25] is a pleasing thing. Our relationship with China
[00:05:28] has economic benefits,
[00:05:32] security benefits, and also inter-state
[00:05:35] relations, and internal relations
[00:05:39] between us. And also, Muslims
[00:05:43] breathe a sigh of relief. Other countries that are still,
[00:05:47] despite their efforts, not ready to interact with Afghanistan and the Islamic Emirate,
[00:05:50] what do you think they are afraid of?
[00:05:54] You said that powers like China and Russia
[00:05:57] no longer have fear from Afghanistan. What fear do other countries have? For example,
[00:06:01] they don't have independence. If they do, China is an
[00:06:04] independent country and the world's leading economy. Russia is an independent
[00:06:08] country. You saw, Mr. Ibrahimi, that
[00:06:11] Russia, despite dangerous pressures
[00:06:14] from Europe, America, and
[00:06:16] the West, as a very brave
[00:06:20] and courageous neighbor, recognized us without
[00:06:23] any hesitation.
[00:06:26] Recognition might have led to Russia facing
[00:06:29] more pressure. And it did. You
[00:06:33] saw with Bulgaria and Poland
[00:06:37] there was an incident.
[00:06:40] A dangerous war in Ukraine.
[00:07:12] You saw the war between Houthis and Saudi Arabia, and
[00:07:16] secretly America and Israel, and
[00:07:18] on the other side Iran is involved, and it is a war of interests,
[00:07:22] not a religious war. If we say that between Saudi
[00:07:25] Arabia and Houthis, it might have a religious aspect, because
[00:07:29] the Houthis, God forbid,
[00:07:32] might intend to seize the Kaaba, since the time of Abraha.
[00:07:35] However, the point here is why Russia interacted with us.
[00:07:39] Russia has a strategic thought that
[00:07:43] the future of Afghanistan is important in global events. Now
[00:07:47] you saw that the senior intelligence
[00:07:50] representatives of Turkey and Qatar came to Kabul.
[00:07:53] This in itself is a retreat, and this is another great achievement.
[00:07:57] And you saw that
[00:08:00] Pakistan's negative propaganda, which defamed
[00:08:04] Afghanistan in every international forum, has almost failed, and
[00:08:07] it is a miracle that Pakistan
[00:08:10] is forced to return to us in its triple
[00:08:14] alliance with Turkey and Saudi Arabia, because that alliance is incomplete
[00:08:18] without the existence of Afghanistan. It is incomplete.
[00:08:21] And also, they say,
[00:08:24] he who has nothing himself, what can he give to others?
[00:08:28] For example, if you don't have a single rupee in your pocket, what can you give to others?
[00:08:32] This is the point, that praise be to God, Afghanistan is moving towards
[00:08:36] betterment. But the problems we have internally,
[00:08:39] with our shortcomings, we are human.
[00:08:43] We should fix them, deal with poverty and hunger, deal with unemployment,
[00:08:47] so that the enemies of Islam and the country do not
[00:08:51] misuse our youth and our people.
[00:08:54] Perhaps some of
[00:08:58] the soldiers of our old army or
[00:09:01] Arbakia or Blackwater or the zero and two
[00:09:04] plot, I'm not saying all of them. Pakistan uses them.
[00:09:07] For example, we saw in the media, we saw in something else
[00:09:11] that in Chaghi Balochistan and its surroundings,
[00:09:14] the Pakistanis themselves did not file a complaint against them, and the martyr
[00:09:17] (witness) from their own people, they themselves said that
[00:09:20] these are some Afghan soldiers who search Pakistanis,
[00:09:24] harass them, and they want to use
[00:09:27] these soldiers on two fronts. That's the point.
[00:09:31] We are not promoting what they say, either against us
[00:09:34] or against the Baloch people who are fighting for their freedom.
[00:09:38] Yes, professor, you said in your speech that
[00:09:42] at least Russia has a correct understanding of the region or of Afghanistan.
[00:09:46] Russia has correctly understood what the realities within Afghanistan
[00:09:50] or outside of it have been over the past five years. Now the fundamental
[00:09:53] question is why at least
[00:09:57] Western countries and Western powers like America have not reached
[00:10:00] a similar understanding to Moscow.
[00:10:02] America is hiding behind the scenes.
[00:10:06] In Pashto, we say its heart is pounding.
[00:10:10] Its heart is like this, you might have a saying
[00:10:12] that its heart wants it.
[00:10:16] It says, "My heart and my desire." The arrival of Zalmay Khalilzad
[00:10:20] about a week or a week and a half ago is a clear message.
[00:10:24] The statements of the then
[00:10:27] Secretary of Defense, who said that there should be interaction with Afghanistan,
[00:10:31] is another witness. And the statements of that
[00:10:35] Afghan-American representative, that woman,
[00:10:38] Wahab Ayesha, Wahabla,
[00:10:41] is another good news that she said there should be interaction with Afghanistan.
[00:10:45] Even a representative from the US State Department
[00:10:48] also came to Kabul recently. The Russian representative
[00:10:51] was heard in your news in
[00:10:55] the United Nations. Russia said
[00:10:57] that the withdrawal of the unarmed America
[00:11:01] from Afghanistan is responsible for all these crises
[00:11:04] that are happening. For example, we are under a cruel Western siege.
[00:11:08] For five years, the unilateral Western
[00:11:11] siege has been imposed on us, and it has not yielded results.
[00:11:15] Even if they continue for 50 years, the Islamic Emirate
[00:11:18] will not surrender to such Western demands,
[00:11:21] for example, to give me Bagram or Shindan.
[00:11:55] The Islamic Emirate has semi-official
[00:11:58] relations and interactions with a hundred countries, which make up
[00:12:02] half of the world, with 8 billion people, of whom 2
[00:12:06] billion are us. It has no problem. They are the address
[00:12:09] of the problem. America does not say it
[00:12:12] in words, but in practice it has agreed to interact.
[00:12:16] Well, what is the reason for this subtlety that you mentioned, that it is still not ready
[00:12:19] to declare or take practical steps? What is the reason?
[00:12:23] Because events...
[00:12:55] We say you respect our interests, we respect your interests.
[00:12:59] There should be balance. And in politics, it is very
[00:13:02] important to give something and take something.
[00:13:06] Give me half, I'll give you half.
[00:13:10] We have proven to the world with this moderate interaction
[00:13:13] that these countries are not willing.
[00:13:17] Well, why did the special representative of Turkish intelligence come?
[00:13:20] This is also a type of interaction.
[00:13:55] Two subtle issues remain: one is external, one is internal. The internal
[00:13:59] issue is that we Afghans should tolerate each other. Even someone who is an opponent
[00:14:02] should see the system, and it has opened its doors,
[00:14:06] and it should open them more. For a council or
[00:14:09] a meeting, let's say, even if it's not official,
[00:14:13] it should be under the leadership of the Islamic Emirate, under the approval of Amir al-Mu'minin,
[00:14:16] may God protect him. A council should be held to consult
[00:14:19] on strategic matters and other Afghans should feel
[00:14:23] that we are also here.
[00:14:25] We have all tribes and ethnicities in our system.
[00:14:29] One internal issue is to eliminate poverty and unemployment.
[00:14:33] Security should be a priority. Alongside
[00:14:35] security, food security, bread, and
[00:14:39] water must be provided. This Kabul will face
[00:14:42] a major water crisis and other issues
[00:14:45] in 3 years. We must prepare for that. The river
[00:14:49] bringing water to Kabul from Panjshir is another issue.
[00:14:52] Iran and Pakistan should pay close attention to this.
[00:15:25] It seems that every year, when the issue of Afghanistan is discussed
[00:15:28] in the UN Security Council, we witness that a meeting
[00:15:32] is held every year.
[00:15:35] However, it seems that some countries or powers do not
[00:15:38] rely much on Russia and China within the Security Council
[00:15:42] and the United Nations in all the meetings that are held about Afghanistan.
[00:15:46] Their perspective is not similar to that of China and Russia,
[00:15:49] and overall,
[00:15:52] some countries
[00:15:55] like America do not rely much on such
[00:15:58] statements from Russia and China.
[00:16:02] Ibrahim, here there are two points. One is that America is afraid
[00:16:05] that we might become a strategic
[00:16:08] friend and ally of Russia and China.
[00:16:12] If we do, this will be very bad news for the neighbor and
[00:16:16] America and others. We should understand
[00:16:19] our internal politics. The other point is that
[00:16:23] the presence of China and Russia in the Security Council, Mr. Ibrahimi, what benefit
[00:16:26] does it have? That every protocol and
[00:16:30] decision and decree that is issued from it, if it is against us,
[00:16:33] they veto it. This is a great document.
[00:16:36] If even the presence of China and
[00:16:39] Russia does not lead to our recognition, the fact that their presence
[00:16:43] provides a strong global, political, and diplomatic
[00:16:46] defense, this is a great gain. Without us spending
[00:16:50] a single cent, a single cent of our
[00:16:53] money, two great countries
[00:16:56] are at our service for the international credibility
[00:17:00] of Afghanistan. There, Pakistan does
[00:17:03] all its wickedness against us every day.
[00:18:07] The demands of the nation. Listen carefully,
[00:18:10] day and night, this is a great jihad. May God reward
[00:18:14] you, for this country was saved first by the help of
[00:18:17] God, then by your jihad, from the Americans
[00:18:21] and NATO. Let's
[00:18:24] export these workers abroad. The Qatari government
[00:18:27] last year asked us for 6,000 workers.
[00:18:31] Is 6,000 little? We should send 600,000, 6 million.
[00:18:35] We should send technicians as well. These are the things that build a
[00:18:38] country. Yes, let's not starve. Starvation
[00:18:42] after occupation is the most dangerous thing that threatens us.
[00:18:46] Sir, at the beginning of your speech, you mentioned one
[00:18:48] point, you talked about Russia and China and said that, first,
[00:18:52] regarding the importance of Afghanistan's geography, you said that
[00:18:56] because there is a greater dependence of most regional countries like Russia and China,
[00:18:59] it makes more dependencies for China and Russia within
[00:19:03] Afghanistan, stemming from geographical importance.
[00:19:06] Now,
[00:19:08] the question is, do Western countries and Western powers also have such dependencies
[00:19:12] within Afghanistan internationally, meaning such dependencies, or are we only dependent
[00:19:16] on other countries to come and interact with Afghanistan?
[00:19:20] Absolutely, the dependence is two-sided.
[00:19:23] وابستگی دو طرفه است
[00:19:26] For example, what we give, we take.
[00:19:29] This is trade. We say interaction.
[00:19:33] The Prophet says that religion is a transaction.
[00:19:36] This transaction has two meanings. One
[00:19:39] meaning is that we must have interaction with each other.
[00:19:42] Even a Muslim can trade with a Jew. There is no problem with this.
[00:19:46] And one transaction is the ethics of a Muslim.
[00:19:49] When a Muslim interacts, they should interact ethically.
[00:19:53] This speech we have with the nation, with our security organs, we
[00:19:57] who are you, you should have good interaction with your people. This interaction.
[00:20:01] America to the extent that if we need
[00:20:04] America 60 percent, America
[00:20:07] needs 40 percent.
[00:20:11] If we need Russia 80 percent, Russia needs
[00:20:14] 90 percent, 80 percent, 70 percent. Why Russia?
[00:20:18] Because we have raw materials. A country that has untapped
[00:20:21] mines is needed by America, Russia, and China.
[00:20:25] Let's interact. The current system in
[00:20:28] Afghanistan, which is under the Islamic Emirate,
[00:20:32] is an independent system. It is human,
[00:20:34] and it has its shortcomings. It is going well
[00:20:38] in the initial stages. It is very good. There are minor issues that
[00:20:42] we need to address internally and
[00:20:45] another issue that is related to foreign countries.
[00:20:48] If the demands of foreign countries
[00:20:51] do not contradict the great values
[00:20:54] of Islam and the nation, we, as a nation,
[00:20:58] ask the Islamic Emirate to compromise a little
[00:21:02] in that case. It's not a problem.
[00:21:05] Give me half, take half. We take it, and
[00:21:09] then we don't even disagree.
[00:21:12] Some considerations that foreign
[00:21:15] countries have, we should study them.
[00:21:18] The considerations that we have, we should boldly tell
[00:21:22] our neighbors and the world that we also have considerations.
[00:21:25] If you are not sure of your security,
[00:21:28] we are not sure of our food security, our health security,
[00:21:32] our defense security, our international and diplomatic
[00:21:35] security. You are unsure about one thing, we are unsure about a hundred things.
[00:21:39] Let's sit down and have a dialogue,
[00:21:42] present our points. We tell America,
[00:21:45] America should understand that we fought a very honorable
[00:21:49] war against it. It was our right,
[00:21:52] whether in international law, whether in Islamic
[00:21:55] law, whether in human rights.
[00:21:59] Today, it is about interaction. If China can come,
[00:22:03] why can't America come? If
[00:22:05] why
[00:22:08] do we respect the interests of China and Russia? Because our closest
[00:22:11] northern neighbor is Russia, it is completely intertwined with us.
[00:22:15] And our Islam does not prevent us from interacting with
[00:22:18] neighbors, whether they are Jews or Christians, whether they are Orthodox
[00:22:22] and Catholic and Christian
[00:22:24] and Protestant and Buddhist and Zoroastrian and whatever
[00:22:28] they are, Islam does not say that we should not have human interaction
[00:22:32] with them, we should not have trade, we should not have good interaction,
[00:22:35] we should do good to them, because the call to Islam comes
[00:22:38] from goodness. This Islam that
[00:22:41] we talk about, it did not go to the East by the force of the sword,
[00:22:45] it went by the force of invitation and love. Muhammad bin
[00:22:48] Qasim, if
[00:23:58] In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
[00:24:00] الرحیم.