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[00:00:17] In the deep wood we go looking for places
[00:00:21] that marked the history of this
[00:00:24] land. We are looking for places where
[00:00:28] people, on the one hand, benefited from
[00:00:32] nature to settle there, also
[00:00:35] that same nature was quite
[00:00:39] stepmotherly, forcing them to
[00:00:41] sacrifices and in the case of
[00:00:44] the cleric, people lived here,
[00:00:48] people were born here, but it is a
[00:00:50] place that in the past was quite
[00:00:54] isolated, today it is
[00:00:56] considered a paradisiacal place.
[00:01:39] Even in my grandfather's time, my father's father used to say that he was called Ponta do Clergio, Clergio was
[00:01:42] at the time of Marquiste Pombal
[00:01:46] when he wanted to brush his colleges,
[00:01:49] refuges for any point of the wood or in the Azores for
[00:01:53] any part of the world to close and one settled up there at the
[00:01:57] head of Ponta do Colério and had a horse.
[00:02:30] even my brother would come here until the sixth vintage
[00:02:32] and
[00:02:36] it's special because we spent our childhood here,
[00:02:40] this climate, this environment, this
[00:02:43] nature, uh, the sounds, the
[00:02:46] seeing of the shearwaters, it always stayed in my memory, I was away
[00:02:50] for so many years, but I couldn't wait for the day to come back
[00:02:54] here, and we are in
[00:02:57] Funchal, when we want...
[00:03:00] to relax, walk away from that noise, pack
[00:03:03] a picnic, we go to Ponta dos Colérios, and we spend a
[00:03:07] day here, my friend's husband will be doing a little
[00:03:10] farming, we plant, we have fruit
[00:03:13] trees, anyway, it's a wonderful day that we spend here.
[00:03:49] places that are 30 cm
[00:03:55] My grandparents already had a farm here, I
[00:03:58] used to come when I was a little kid, but... my grandmother when she was 7
[00:04:01] years old, I still remember there being people living here
[00:04:05] inside, at least five families lived
[00:04:08] here, they made a living with seven or eight children, and inside these caves is
[00:04:11] here which is followed by that
[00:04:14] cabin, there is what used to be Manuel da Abria's, a cousin
[00:04:18] of mine has it,
[00:04:21] a stick spindle rooms all inside the house
[00:04:25] all made in the rock, I don't have anything made outside with a knot
[00:04:28] inside, all carved in the rock. Inside is
[00:04:31] the old woman's clock, good houses are good houses, these
[00:04:35] were the houses where they lived. The
[00:04:38] clog was born here, babies in the
[00:04:41] caves, the ladies embroidered the tablecloth
[00:04:45] eh they stayed here embroidering and the men went fishing but there was never
[00:04:48] any fishing or anything it was a sad thing
[00:04:52] and they had to fetch water to consume from a rock that was the only
[00:04:56] spring that existed with scene it was well there was
[00:05:00] no other remedy, they had to live, but it was really a very
[00:05:04] harsh survival, if we lived
[00:05:07] for years in times of crisis, in Salazar's
[00:05:11] time. Yes, sir, so then Father Cardoso Deusha, who was the priest of
[00:05:14] Santana, there were some
[00:05:18] expeditions and the priest managed to get a piece of land there with the
[00:05:21] ditch to go out to bring those people from the
[00:05:23] law,
[00:05:32] my family cultivated here and so I started coming with them here
[00:05:36] to the clerics and I was attracted to this since
[00:05:39] I was young, since I was 10 or 12 years old.
[00:05:42] that's why
[00:05:46] I love this and
[00:05:49] so I started with the old ones, I saw some
[00:05:53] perfect caves, not like this one, but beginnings
[00:05:57] of caves, and it encourages me a little, to continue
[00:06:01] with a little of that work of the old ones, it's a bit of a hard work,
[00:06:04] but it calls my attention a lot, I think it fits with
[00:06:07] nature, it doesn't leave nature much, that's what also
[00:06:10] makes me be in this business almost
[00:06:25] an immigrant from 10 years from 16 to
[00:06:29] 27 more or less and but
[00:06:32] my dream was always to come back here, of course who doesn't want to come back
[00:06:35] here.
[00:06:49] I dreamed so much that I started to make little farms and buy,
[00:06:52] everything I have here is what I acquired
[00:06:55] working day by day for it and buying and so on, this was my dream
[00:06:59] was to come back here again but with other conditions to have a fight
[00:07:02] and to
[00:07:03] have
[00:07:12] ready.
[00:07:17] day by day I work in agriculture,
[00:07:21] I plant onions, garlic, all that stuff and I also rest, I look at
[00:07:24] the landscape,
[00:07:27] well, I keep myself entertained there, but I live from
[00:07:30] agriculture, the base is agriculture, this gives
[00:07:33] grapes, it gives bananas, it gives papayas, it gives everything we plant here
[00:07:37] inside, it's a shame it was
[00:07:40] forgotten for a while.
[00:08:02] I have some little animals here, I used to have some cows, I used to have some goats, now I have some
[00:08:06] pigs and I come here, I can't do without
[00:08:09] coming, I really like it, I wouldn't be happy without...
[00:08:12] this little corner, I like it, but this little corner
[00:08:15] here
[00:08:20] Ponta do Clérigo is the third most
[00:08:23] northern point of Madeira Island, that
[00:08:26] is, it is the third most
[00:08:29] northern point and it is also the
[00:08:33] final point next to the sea of Clerigo
[00:08:36] and that is why several
[00:08:40] generations of people passed through here in...
[00:08:42] access to the
[00:08:44] coastline
[00:08:48] was difficult, the senses also
[00:08:52] suffered also dangerous but
[00:08:55] also loaded it was dangerous that if there was a problem no one
[00:08:58] there is no chance there are
[00:09:02] wide not much more but the
[00:09:04] old people could still do it, now for the younger people it is more
[00:09:08] complicated.
[00:09:18] it's already hard for me to go down there the day I go down there, I'll go
[00:09:22] down in case I can't walk, that
[00:09:25] ditch doubles your hand up like this, it's not
[00:09:29] like that and
[00:09:31] now at this height we have to sit on the ground to descend and
[00:09:35] we need to put our knees if it's safer to
[00:09:38] descend if your feet slip you can go
[00:09:41] headfirst and if not if not we always come
[00:09:45] more my father at 82 years old still came
[00:09:48] here, my father at 75 years old by the hour and I already said
[00:09:52] father, father, it's no longer a thing to go to the rock, father, you can't stand it anymore, don't
[00:09:56] go there, you know what he answered me? When I go there I feel the patches
[00:10:11] some were very difficult to access, it was really
[00:10:14] complicated, but there was even the part of the
[00:10:18] boots, now we managed to acquire
[00:10:21] some volunteers and so we are going with that to...
[00:10:25] ahead we managed to clear all the access, it's much more accessible,
[00:10:52] our hikes have some risk, but that's what we like.
[00:10:55] Always discovering, more and more of Madeira, discovering
[00:10:59] inhospitable places, places of unique
[00:11:03] mirage, that's what we like and when we think
[00:11:06] it deserves to be a cable with some degree of
[00:11:09] difficulty, we mark it and there we go then to spend a
[00:11:12] little while without any certainty.
[00:11:32] We are going to leave this in a way that is accessible to anyone, it is
[00:11:36] not a makeshift, it is accessible to anyone and that's what we are doing,
[00:11:50] I am very proud of the people of Sendir and that we
[00:11:53] achieved this conquest of opening the... path was very
[00:11:56] important for me, as it is important for everyone here nearby and even for
[00:12:00] foreigners, it is a truly phenomenal thing.
[00:12:32] The Canoa House is a mythical place
[00:12:36] in Ponta dos Clérigos.
[00:12:39] It reflects the art and ingenuity that
[00:12:42] people had in the past to
[00:12:45] satisfy their needs. In this specific
[00:12:49] case, it was a fishing
[00:12:51] cove. Here improvisations were made. The
[00:12:55] hoists, as well as a
[00:12:58] platform to house several
[00:13:02] canoes, they say that
[00:13:05] five canoes were
[00:13:07] here, in a place that has no
[00:13:11] access to the sea by a beach, even if it is a
[00:13:14] pebble beach, this place here reflects
[00:13:18] the art and ingenuity that people had
[00:13:21] to satisfy their food
[00:13:25] needs, that is, it was from
[00:13:27] here that they fished the fish that
[00:13:30] fed them in their homes
[00:13:33] and
[00:13:37] I remember sleeping to arrive with the boat full of fish
[00:13:41] stranded there, I still have a photo there, there were also
[00:13:45] many neighbor ladies, they also had a boat
[00:13:48] they also brought fish, the sustenance at that
[00:13:52] time for most of these people... who lived
[00:13:55] here was fish, I preferred to come here to
[00:13:59] here, Santana, bean of Mora and Santa here
[00:14:02] preferred to buy the place for the
[00:14:05] boat down
[00:14:06] there,
[00:14:14] and I bought it when I was 12 years old, look, the shape of the
[00:14:17] boat is still there, but it's not good
[00:14:21] at all.
[00:14:25] The boat had had been made, it was a hand crank,
[00:14:29] a roller, it was
[00:14:32] slow, with the hand crank we could
[00:14:36] lift the boat, it became light for us, here it's already
[00:14:39] a big boat for us to lift it there, it was already a
[00:14:43] 4.5 boat, it's already a boat that has a
[00:14:46] mattress - a person rests at night by the
[00:14:49] kingdom so that
[00:14:52] night the shearwaters go and...
[00:15:29] The Cleric in the parish of Faial begins
[00:15:33] at its highest point in a peak
[00:15:36] called the peak. of the doll and this peak
[00:15:39] with an average altitude of about 530
[00:15:43] m is on the north coast, the
[00:15:46] highest promontory over the coastline
[00:15:49] and it is the second after Cabo
[00:15:53] Girão, there is a
[00:15:56] viewpoint which is the viewpoint of Pico da Boneca, from
[00:15:59] which you can see a landscape that goes
[00:16:03] from Ponta de São Lourenço to Porto
[00:16:06] Santo.
[00:17:11] Below the clerics, or using
[00:17:13] the Madeiran regionalism, below
[00:17:17] the doll's peak, which is the highest
[00:17:20] point of the clerics, there is an islet which
[00:17:24] is known by two names, the Widow's
[00:17:27] Islet, when seen from a
[00:17:30] distance, because it looks like a woman with her hood on
[00:17:33] her head, or by another name, the
[00:17:37] Ship's Rock, this view that gives it the name Ship's
[00:17:41] Rock, it is necessary to come to this
[00:17:44] place to understand why the
[00:17:48] ancients gave this name to this
[00:17:51] islet,
[00:17:57] the Widow's Islet or Ship's Rock represents a testimony of the
[00:18:01] geological formations of the intermediate volcanic complex, namely the...
[00:18:05] Porta Cruz unit, which
[00:18:09] we estimate to be around 4 million years old. In
[00:18:13] reality, what we are seeing now in the formation
[00:18:16] of this islet is due to the essentially
[00:18:20] erosive action and destructive and
[00:18:23] shaping capacity of the landscape, made by the
[00:18:27] sea, which ended up isolating this
[00:18:30] portion, currently an islet, which was previously
[00:18:34] connected to the primitive structure of the
[00:18:36] island. here well represented by this
[00:18:39] vertical rocky escarpment to subvertical
[00:18:43] with small deposits of beaches and small beaches
[00:18:47] along the coast.
[00:18:50] behind me we can see a
[00:18:53] passage established in the middle of the rock, those
[00:18:57] crossed sticks are what we call a
[00:19:00] "pinguela", or rather, it is an
[00:19:03] improvised bridge through a stick. This
[00:19:06] pinguela, which we can still observe
[00:19:10] today, represents the art and
[00:19:13] ingenuity of people who wanted to have access to
[00:19:17] the sea to be able to fish, given that
[00:19:20] here on the north coast the sea is quite
[00:19:23] stormy, they created a shelter
[00:19:27] for their boat in a
[00:19:29] cave, in a grotto that exists and is visible
[00:19:33] here on the islet of the ship's
[00:19:35] rock. it had been on the day when the tide
[00:19:39] was dry in the afternoon dry in the morning for us to go out and if the
[00:19:42] tide is high it's impossible to go out just to nothing when it was impossible to
[00:19:46] go out it also gave fish it also gave fish but I didn't go many
[00:19:50] times and to sleep there at night without a mattress we
[00:19:53] would sleep there on the floor because it was more our backs
[00:19:57] were
[00:19:59] we fished here outside the ship's
[00:20:03] rock, fish up to São Jorge over there at the mouth of the São Jorge
[00:20:06] river. "The boat sometimes came half full of fish, half full of fish
[00:20:10] then to bring it from the college point up was in the sixth vintage
[00:20:13] and it was heavy to climb the rock, it consists of lowering your back
[00:20:17] the
[00:20:21] cleric with its cliffs or
[00:20:24] sea cliffs or over the
[00:20:27] sea constitutes a refuge
[00:20:31] and nesting point for
[00:20:33] our well-known shearwater or pardela.
[00:20:37] which is called by the people of
[00:20:40] Caniçal, there because of opening the
[00:20:44] shearwaters begin to arrive here, forming
[00:20:48] pairs and nesting.
[00:20:50] creating in this place a unique
[00:20:54] atmosphere at nightfall, during the night
[00:20:57] and in the
[00:20:58] morning,
[00:21:03] we'll stay two for tomorrow to hear the shearwaters, because it's at this
[00:21:07] time that they are, so my father
[00:21:10] taught all the seasons for them to come
[00:21:13] and sing.
[00:21:25] "she comes to lay, then she takes the baby,
[00:21:28] then while he is, then they all walk
[00:21:32] then they only come back a year later to the same
[00:21:36] place,
[00:21:40] throughout this program we came to the
[00:21:43] cleric to show all
[00:21:46] of you this unique place in our..."
[00:21:50] Madeira. We came here to show you
[00:21:54] its nature, its unique
[00:21:57] landscape. We found people
[00:22:01] who are its guardians.
[00:22:04] We talked to them and heard their stories.
[00:22:08] I hope that now in your homes, after
[00:22:12] seeing the images that are shown
[00:22:15] here, you dare to come
[00:22:18] here. observe this
[00:22:21] place, have the experience of seeing a
[00:22:25] unique place so that not only those who
[00:22:29] visit us benefit from this space and
[00:22:43] this is now a place frequented by many tourists,
[00:22:47] they all say it's a beautiful place. you are
[00:22:51] lucky to have this corner here,
[00:22:54] I hope you don't ruin
[00:22:58] it, but I think it will be much more
[00:23:00] developed,
[00:23:03] we have a very disarming view here that
[00:23:06] on the rest of the north coast we don't find a view like
[00:23:10] this,
[00:23:13] what more could I want than this, this is all this, this
[00:23:17] is breathing pure oxygen.
[00:23:22] It was made here like a shearwater, which is born
[00:23:26] here, goes around the world, but always comes to see where it was born and I am the same.