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[00:01:07] Hello and welcome to Crosstal where all things are considered. I'm
[00:01:10] of Peter Leveau. The longer the US-Israel war of aggression on
[00:01:14] Iran goes on, the fewer good options are available to
[00:01:17] end it. In fact, with every passing day, the war widens
[00:01:21] horizontally, while the American administration
[00:01:24] of continues to claim victory, it is being forcibly pushed out
[00:01:28] of the Middle East.
[00:01:38] To discuss the ongoing war, I'm joined by Muhammad Mirandi and
[00:01:42] of Toran, he is a professor at the University of Toran. Warm
[00:01:46] welcome back to the program, um, we've been
[00:01:48] of doing this for 15 years now and it's a pleasure to have you
[00:01:51] of just one-on-one for a change here, so I'm going to start um
[00:01:55] in quickly with uh the uh, I'm sure you saw some
[00:01:58] of the senate uh... clips
[00:02:00] of the senate hearing with uh the person that claims to be the uh
[00:02:04] secretary of war, Pete Heggseth, and I want to just start out very
[00:02:07] broadly um in
[00:02:09] in watching it, and he he was grilled, yes, but
[00:02:12] it was, but it was very partisan, democrats and all of
[00:02:16] that, which very, I don't get involved in the intermerial
[00:02:20] um struggles
[00:02:21] of the American political party, because it's basically a mono party when it
[00:02:24] comes to foreign policy, but I'm sure
[00:02:30] of in what it it didn't go a miss on your... part that there was no talk
[00:02:31] of the origins
[00:02:32] of the war against Iran, there
[00:02:37] of in was no - discussion of really the Israeli
[00:02:38] of involvement, and brought even more broadly, there was no discussion
[00:02:42] of the Israelization of American foreign policy in
[00:02:45] West Asia, those are the things you can't talk about in
[00:02:49] pleasant company in western media. Take it away,
[00:02:52] professor. Well, first of
[00:02:55] in all, it's a great honor being on your show always, and
[00:02:59] it's a... particularly great honor being with
[00:03:03] you for a one-on-one discussion, yes,
[00:03:06] you're right, and that is where the problem lies at the end
[00:03:10] of the day, the problem lies in those issues which cannot be
[00:03:13] discussed, whether in the senate or in the house
[00:03:17] or any committee or in mainstream media, no one is
[00:03:21] going to say that we haven't seen a single
[00:03:24] person in in senator say that we're carrying
[00:03:28] out an act of aggression, this war. was unprovoked, you don't see
[00:03:32] western media, anyone any
[00:03:35] of of the major pundits saying that we are we are killing children, we are an aggressor,
[00:03:38] we are destroying yet or attempting to destroy yet
[00:03:42] another country, that's not the
[00:03:44] a narrative, because American exceptionalism, george, sort of
[00:03:48] like
[00:03:49] of zionism, gives you special rights and privileges, so
[00:03:53] when you destroy a country, when I destroy a country, I'm
[00:03:56] not
[00:03:57] of guilty of war crimes, it's at most am...
[00:04:00] of staken policy, it was a,
[00:04:02] it was bad judgment when i killed a million people, but if
[00:04:06] you you know carry out
[00:04:08] assault on an old lady walking down the street,
[00:04:12] you go to jail, you can go to jail for life, but if they kill if they destroy
[00:04:16] an entire country, we didn't find
[00:04:20] a weapons of mass destruction, it was a mistake, yes, next time we should be more
[00:04:24] careful, that is the mentality, and so that's why
[00:04:28] the empire is going to collapse, because they cannot
[00:04:31] see or they are not willing to see the root
[00:04:34] of the problem and dragging the United States
[00:04:38] down to hell,
[00:04:40] in they they went
[00:04:42] of into Afghanistan, spent trillions of dollars, they went into Iraq, spent
[00:04:45] trillions of dollars, they destroyed Libya, they destroyed
[00:04:48] Syria, now they're going after Iran after they've
[00:04:52] lost so many trillions of dollars and they're on the decline, whereas the
[00:04:56] rest
[00:04:56] of the world, they're behaving like normal countries, china develop.
[00:05:01] Russia trying to develop countries, shanghai cooperation
[00:05:04] organization countries all trying to develop, whereas Americans
[00:05:08] are constantly waging war, well wealth isn't
[00:05:11] infinite. "now we're we're seeing
[00:05:15] when reality hits, so the
[00:05:18] Iranians, yeah, well, let's talk about that reality
[00:05:21] here, um, if you're if you consume western
[00:05:24] media, the United States has won this war,
[00:05:28] over and over and over again, apparently, but the the the
[00:05:32] the straight of horm is still under Iranian control,
[00:05:36] and with every passing night, and they talk about you, how horrible it's going
[00:05:40] to be for Iran, with every passing..." night and it seems to me the
[00:05:44] news that the western audiences are not getting is that there are fewer
[00:05:48] and fewer operational base American bases in the Persian
[00:05:52] Gulf, they're all being clustered now in
[00:05:55] Jordan, and sooner or later they're going to have to move to
[00:05:59] Israel, they don't talk about the facts on the ground except for
[00:06:03] the we we're winning, we have won, I mean
[00:06:05] how many times do is the United States and Israel going
[00:06:09] to lose this war?
[00:06:14] in in normal circumstances, when you
[00:06:17] go from Kuwait
[00:06:20] and then you go to Jordan
[00:06:22] and then you go to the Israeli regime, they would
[00:06:26] call that retreat, yeah, but
[00:06:30] in in the United States, that's that term does
[00:06:33] not exist, during, I mean, they should have learned from
[00:06:37] the 40 days of war, during the Ramadan war, as they say
[00:06:41] here, that the... can't defeat Iran, I mean they they murdered the
[00:06:45] leader, I was martered, senior commanders were
[00:06:48] martered, they they they
[00:06:52] hit day, I mean the combined force the United States and Israeli
[00:06:55] regime hit day and night, they achieved nothing,
[00:06:59] they they began with unconditional surrender, and then
[00:07:03] by the end the war they accepted the Iranian 10 point
[00:07:07] plan as the framework for negotiations, that didn't
[00:07:10] work, then they went and and siege on Iran saying we're
[00:07:14] going to bring them to their knees, senators went on tv saying they have no
[00:07:18] food, they're starving, you with pleasure, of course it was
[00:07:21] nonsense, mean
[00:07:22] there was inflation, there was difficulty, but not that sort of difficult, but they
[00:07:26] were taking pleasure in their you know in their imaginary
[00:07:30] victory, that didn't work, they had to sign ultimately an mou
[00:07:34] where everyone was saying was capitulation, but now they want to
[00:07:38] do it all over again, and we're seeing that the Iranians are actually hitting.
[00:07:42] harder, yep, and with greater
[00:07:45] precision, and addition to
[00:07:48] that, because the foolishness the Saudi regime by
[00:07:52] bombing Yemen's international airport, San international
[00:07:56] airport, the Yemenese are now involved in the war,
[00:08:00] and we're seeing the price of oil rising
[00:08:04] very rapidly, so this is this is
[00:08:07] obviously not going to lead to victory, and if Trump does carry out his threats,
[00:08:11] because he keeps saying his... going to demolish Iranian
[00:08:14] infrastructure, bridges and power plants,
[00:08:18] if he does that, the Iranians have said that they're going to take out the critical
[00:08:21] infrastructure of those regimes that are facilitating the war in the Persian
[00:08:25] Gulf, it is the month of July, and you and I
[00:08:28] know what that means in the Arabian peninsula, if the Iranians take out the
[00:08:32] critical infrastructure, everyone will
[00:08:34] have to leave, these countries will collapse, and that means a global economic
[00:08:38] depression worse than the 1930s and happened
[00:08:42] after that, you
[00:08:45] the the the terminology that we keep hearing from western politicians and
[00:08:49] echoed by the media, i was particularly interested
[00:08:53] in the following new term
[00:08:56] here, functionally defeated, what in the
[00:09:00] world is that supposed to mean, because mean you could that
[00:09:04] could be applied to the united states, if i if i can figure out
[00:09:08] what that really means, but Iran is been functionally defeated.
[00:09:12] but
[00:09:13] it is still um able
[00:09:15] to launch missiles and drones with amazing
[00:09:19] precision, a precision that has only gotten better as this
[00:09:23] conflict continues, so I mean where does this come from,
[00:09:27] functionally defeated? It's
[00:09:31] just like how they pick the movement of us
[00:09:35] assets away from the Persian Gulf to Jordan and then
[00:09:39] to Israel, it is probably uh...
[00:09:42] dancing
[00:09:43] wetswords,
[00:09:50] well you now um, you said a previous
[00:09:54] interview, which I
[00:09:55] i really uh thought it was interesting uh with uh, I think it
[00:09:59] was with Danny or with the judge, um, but you said the
[00:10:03] only option Iran has is to fight, can you explain more
[00:10:06] what that means? well, we tried everything
[00:10:10] else, there you go, I mean, 'uh we had an
[00:10:14] mou and then as I mean the Iranians knew that the United
[00:10:17] States would not abide by their commitments, I mean I don't recall ever
[00:10:21] speaking to anyone in Tehen during the past few weeks and after the
[00:10:25] mou, whereas people said, yes, they're going to
[00:10:28] do this or that, but from the very beginning the
[00:10:31] Americans did not force the Israeli regime to leave
[00:10:34] Lebanon or to stop the killing, they did
[00:10:38] not handover Iranian stolen assets,
[00:10:42] they continued to threaten Iranian leaders and Iranian
[00:10:45] people, violation the deal, they expanded the sanctions regime,
[00:10:49] another violation, they lifted the sanctions on Iranian oil,
[00:10:53] then then reversed it, after few days another violation and
[00:10:57] then they violated article 5 and by trying to
[00:11:01] create a corridor in the straight of hormones, whereas in article 5 it
[00:11:05] was clear that the Iranians would manage the straight of hormones and Iran would normalize
[00:11:09] it. Why did the Americans do this with the collaboration the Saudis and
[00:11:13] Amiratis and the Kuwaities who are their partners in war? They did it to
[00:11:16] undermine Iran's position in the state of hormole so that they can control the
[00:11:20] trade. Iran would have no leverage and then they
[00:11:23] would... win the war
[00:11:26] despite losing it on the battlefield and in siege warfare, and the Iranian
[00:11:30] said, no, we're not going to allow you to do that. so the Americans
[00:11:34] violated all their commitments, then they attacked Iran and reimposed the
[00:11:38] siege. so what else is Iran going to do?
[00:11:41] this and the debate that exists in Iran today
[00:11:45] is whether we should have even signed the mou. and some are saying we
[00:11:49] did the right thing, uh, we took that opportunity to quickly
[00:11:53] export tens of millions of barrels. of oil and import critical goods to prepare
[00:11:57] ourselves for today, others were saying no, we should have
[00:12:00] continued, both arguments have their own merit,
[00:12:04] think i don't think one side is completely correct or the other, but the point is that
[00:12:08] no one is saying let's do deal, let's do sease fire, let's
[00:12:12] no, that's that's just out the question, and
[00:12:15] ultimately whenever this comes to an end and it will come
[00:12:19] to an end at some point, we may be a global economic depression and the
[00:12:23] global economy will collapse or maybe something else, it's going to be worse, whatever it
[00:12:26] is, it could be horribly worse or just much worse
[00:12:30] or somewhat worse, but uh, but whatever
[00:12:34] happens at the end when when the Iranians and Americans come to some sort of
[00:12:38] agreement, the Iranian demands will be more than what we saw in the mou, it
[00:12:42] will it will include Yemen, it will include Gaza
[00:12:46] more explicitly, and the Iranians will want things up
[00:12:49] front, so the Americans are a loose lose
[00:12:53] situation, the smartest thing that... they could have done would was
[00:12:56] to just implement the mou and move
[00:12:59] on, but designs, designs
[00:13:03] lobby, the regime won't allow it, and trump's
[00:13:06] ego, if you add that to it, that makes it more than enough
[00:13:09] to wreck the global economy and the US economy and the world, you've
[00:13:13] we've often when as you guessed on this program, we've made the
[00:13:17] comparison, this conflict with the comparison in Ukraine, and you're
[00:13:21] absolutely right, the longer it goes on, the more the Americans are going. to
[00:13:25] lose, the longer the conflict goes on in Ukraine, the more they will lose, should
[00:13:29] take the deal and be honest up front and all sides can
[00:13:33] get past it, but again um uh what is it
[00:13:37] uh agreement incapable in the United States shows
[00:13:40] that all around the world and particularly when they come
[00:13:44] across a
[00:13:46] um uh power that can say no, russia says no,
[00:13:49] Iran says no, on that note, I'm going to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break, and after
[00:13:53] that short break we'll continue our... on the ongoing war on Iran stay
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[00:16:06] Welcome back to Crosstal, we're. things are considered on Peter Level,
[00:16:09] to remind you, we're discussing the ongoing war on
[00:16:11] Iran.
[00:16:21] Okay, professor, just briefly,
[00:16:22] I don't want to spend lot of time on it, because I think I don't see
[00:16:26] the the value of so-called negotiations, considering
[00:16:30] what Americans call negotiations uh, before the 12-day
[00:16:33] war, before the Ramadan war, that means nothing to them, it is.
[00:16:37] just um - um it it's
[00:16:41] uh um deceiving um their interlocutor in this
[00:16:45] case of Iran, but there's been it's been um
[00:16:48] mentioned new 10 uh
[00:16:51] a 10-day ceasefire is there any creadence to that, I mean
[00:16:55] I i have find that hard to believe
[00:16:58] um um considering negotiating style if we can put it that way the
[00:17:02] United States and the Israelis any any value to a
[00:17:06] 10-day ceasefire. No, no, the Iranians are not
[00:17:10] interested in cease fire at all, and the Iranians
[00:17:13] have said to the Pakistanis and
[00:17:17] the Omanis and the others were all seeking some sort
[00:17:21] of dialogue or some sort
[00:17:25] of movement towards an
[00:17:29] agreement. Yeah, the mediators have their own
[00:17:32] interests, we would have, exactly, exactly, and the
[00:17:36] Iranians have been. saying, look, go and talk with Americans, we're not the
[00:17:40] ones who destroyed the mou, we're not the
[00:17:44] ones who violated the mou, they did, so and the Iranians are not
[00:17:48] going to accept any cease fire, the Iranians are going to
[00:17:52] continue the war until the Americans
[00:17:55] are, the Trump regime is suffers
[00:17:59] enough where they come to the conclusion that this just can't
[00:18:03] continue, remember, and you, I know you remember this, I'm just just rhetorical,
[00:18:07] but when Trump signed the MOU and everyone was attacking
[00:18:11] him for basically capitulating to Iran, he
[00:18:15] said that, look, we're just four weeks away from
[00:18:18] emptying our reserves, do you want me to be a Herbert Hoover, do you want a great
[00:18:22] depression? so obviously uh, the United
[00:18:26] States is not in an ideal situation, Trump is
[00:18:30] not uh, he does not have endless uh
[00:18:34] reserves of of oil, and the Iranians no... that
[00:18:38] it may not be four weeks, it may be five weeks, it may be three weeks, it may
[00:18:42] be six weeks, but there is serious trouble lying ahead,
[00:18:46] and so the Iranians are not going to have sease fire now when they know that nothing will
[00:18:50] come of it, the Iranians want the united states
[00:18:53] to ultimately go back to the mou plus, in other words, they have
[00:18:57] implement the deal, but they have to add new things and that
[00:19:00] would include gaza and and yemen, the
[00:19:04] siege on yemen would have to be lifted and would have to give
[00:19:08] things up front, Iran is not going to like
[00:19:11] enter cease fire and then wait for the
[00:19:14] Americans to handover stolen assets, which it will never
[00:19:18] do. The problem uh is, and you know this
[00:19:22] better than I, and it's just like the Russian issue, the problem is is that the
[00:19:26] Americans engage in wishful thinking, remember how
[00:19:30] Russia was running out of of missiles and you had
[00:19:34] to open up all the washing machines and take...
[00:19:38] ships and all that, that's what they're now saying about Iran. Iran is
[00:19:41] running out of missiles and then Iran is firing missiles and drones day and night, but
[00:19:45] they say no, they're running out of missiles. It's all wishful
[00:19:48] thinking, and ultimately, as far as I
[00:19:52] know, you've run out of washing machines, but you have not run out
[00:19:55] of missiles in in in Russia, and the same is
[00:19:59] true in Iran, it's all about, it's all about narratives
[00:20:03] and the and holding down the price of oil through.
[00:20:07] manipulation, that's narrative, but ultimately when that
[00:20:10] shortage hits the market, people find
[00:20:14] out that there is not enough oil anymore, it's going to get very
[00:20:18] bad, and you know,
[00:20:21] Peter, actually, by manipulating the market and bringing
[00:20:25] down the price of oil, they're making it worse for themselves,
[00:20:29] because they are preventing demand
[00:20:32] destruction, they are making people continue to use up
[00:20:36] as much oil as they work, year ago, instead of trying to
[00:20:39] decrease consumption to manage the
[00:20:43] crisis, they're moving full steam ahead, and then when
[00:20:46] suddenly they're they're going to hit that shortage, it's going to be...
[00:20:50] worse than it would have been otherwise, yeah, but it's the same
[00:20:54] people that well they're just going to the bank every single day
[00:20:57] collecting uh their ill-gotten gains here, and they don't care
[00:21:01] if they cared about about their
[00:21:05] own people, speaking the Americans, they never would have sent them to
[00:21:08] war,
[00:21:09] and and people are beginning to realize that surely surely,
[00:21:12] but surely, but uh, indefinitely
[00:21:15] the the the commitment of
[00:21:18] this. in America is to enrich
[00:21:21] itself, there's no doubt about it, they keep doing it over and over again. I'm going
[00:21:25] to ask you very hard question right now, because
[00:21:29] we see uh what has happened uh through this conflict, the first
[00:21:33] 40 days, then this fake mou, and then I don't, we're on day
[00:21:37] 13 or or something like that the return of
[00:21:40] kinetic action, but uh, Iran is in the position
[00:21:44] to strike, strike, Jordan very hard,
[00:21:48] um, strike israel. very hard. I mean, we we know that the
[00:21:52] director of Bengarian Airport were saying, get these American planes out of
[00:21:56] here, because it's a huge target,
[00:21:59] easy target. Why doesn't Iran take the initiative
[00:22:03] and and push this, push the inevitable conclusion of this
[00:22:07] conflict to an end? Well, before I answer
[00:22:11] that, I Peter, I just want to point out that there's a
[00:22:15] famous statement that's attributed to Maria Antoinette, and it's
[00:22:18] not true, but... still famous and that was
[00:22:22] when we
[00:22:23] now people were in facing hunger and they said there's no
[00:22:27] bread, which she asked what's going on, they said there's no bread, the said, well, let them eat cake,
[00:22:31] again this, she didn't actually say this, historically speaking, but it's a
[00:22:35] famous quote, these people who don't care about the American people, these
[00:22:39] American leaders, or these elites, this epsine
[00:22:42] class, they shouldn't be so confident about
[00:22:46] their position, if things get very bad for the United States,
[00:22:50] "the American people are going to be very, very angry, and you
[00:22:54] know, Peter, and this is, I'm not a sociologist,
[00:22:58] I'm just speculating, a country that experienced poverty for
[00:23:02] decades, wherever, wherever in the world, a country that is poor, and it remains
[00:23:06] poor, people may be dissatisfied, but a country which
[00:23:10] when I was young, was rich country
[00:23:13] and moves downwards towards poverty, I
[00:23:17] think the anger in that sort of country is going." "the wrath the
[00:23:20] people will be something to be fearful of, but
[00:23:24] with regards to, well, on that point, muhammad, there the
[00:23:28] America is quite exceptional in the case that it
[00:23:31] has lot of guns, okay, I'm agreeing with you, of course, go
[00:23:35] ahead, continue, oh, absolutely,
[00:23:39] but um, I think actually we are moving in that direction,
[00:23:43] the Israeli regime is a more
[00:23:46] precarious situation today than it was all days ago." 13 days
[00:23:50] ago, why? because all those radar systems in the Persian
[00:23:54] Gulf, in northern Iraq, in Jordan, they're all
[00:23:57] destroyed, and those uh air defense systems, they're
[00:24:01] all designed basically for Israel, the Americans don't care about anyone else
[00:24:05] but the Israeli regime, they fight, you right now the Israelis
[00:24:09] are saying let the Americans fight for us, I mean we don't want to get involved,
[00:24:13] but base, but so which is the biggest insult possible to the
[00:24:17] American people, and in return what does what? the United States do,
[00:24:20] they merge the US armed forces with
[00:24:24] the the armed forces the Israeli regime, like
[00:24:26] uh, you know,
[00:24:27] the the obedience slaves that they are in the
[00:24:29] in the house and the senate, but ultimately when all
[00:24:33] these are destroyed, Iranian missiles and Iranian drones and
[00:24:37] particularly Iranian drones will have much easier time
[00:24:41] striking the regime. right now, Iran isn't no rush
[00:24:45] to strike Israel because the elections in the
[00:24:49] the in Israeli regime. because the internal crisis that
[00:24:52] exists there, the the hostility among the different factions in the
[00:24:56] regime is very high and in in the Hebrew
[00:24:59] press when you look at it, i look see it
[00:25:02] sometimes through conflicts forum they do good
[00:25:05] translations, they even talk about civil war, so
[00:25:09] when your enemy is busy att you
[00:25:13] destroying itself, the the Iranians will say, let's see
[00:25:17] how this plays out, professor, one last question is
[00:25:21] we're unfortunately rapidly running out of time, um, our mutual friend
[00:25:25] Max Blumethall, you saw him during his visit during the funeral
[00:25:29] procession, he spoke to people, and some the responses he got is
[00:25:33] that there is new Islamic revolution
[00:25:37] occurring, how would you reflect upon that? I mean, is it very nationalistic, how
[00:25:41] much religiosity is part of that, but
[00:25:44] new or reinvigorated revolution, how would you reflect
[00:25:48] upon that? I would agree, I i and I don't
[00:25:52] think that in Iran nationalism and religion are
[00:25:56] separate, there they're very much mixed, it's it's
[00:26:00] one identity, they come together.
[00:26:06] Islam supporting the oppressed, fighting, standing up against the
[00:26:10] oppressor is is very important, if anyone
[00:26:13] reads um Alicer
[00:26:16] Crooks book resistance, they get a good idea
[00:26:19] or going to Tehran by
[00:26:22] the Flint and Hillary Leverent, I think they get better
[00:26:26] understanding of that, this sense of resilience and resistance
[00:26:30] is very powerful among. and what after what the United States
[00:26:34] did, it has grown much stronger, and the Iranians, many
[00:26:37] Iranians, were worried about what would happen if
[00:26:41] war was a war of aggression would start, they
[00:26:44] found out that actually we are much stronger than
[00:26:48] you, than they had imagined, and so this resilience, this
[00:26:52] sense of pride has been enhanced, and of course it's a country which is founded
[00:26:55] upon thousands of years of civilization, the
[00:26:59] americans have made it catastrophic, mean trump has made it. profit
[00:27:02] mistake: yeah, and and and and he's good, he's paying the
[00:27:06] price right now. what we we we really need to wait for
[00:27:10] is um uh if the US-Israel relationship will change, but
[00:27:14] as you pointed out um merging the two
[00:27:18] um militaries and intelligence, that doesn't give anyone any
[00:27:22] hope because it'll give Israel the front uh the
[00:27:25] front seat, it'll be the driver of American foreign policy, that's the
[00:27:29] last thing the American people need, but your... "you're absolutely
[00:27:33] right, um, you mentioned Americans
[00:27:37] being uh angry about lower standard of living, that it
[00:27:41] would be, it was going on even before this, now this will be
[00:27:44] compounded, and and given the media space
[00:27:48] alternative space, it's you, it's very easy
[00:27:52] to find out why, it's,
[00:27:53] you know, what we talked about 15 years ago was the forbodent in
[00:27:57] western media, now on the edges people are hearing this, and
[00:28:01] that's why we have to..." continue our dialogue that started so long
[00:28:05] ago, which of course will continue into the future. we
[00:28:09] very here at Crosstal, we very, very much appreciate you as
[00:28:12] guest, particularly this time as a one-on-one, so I want to thank you, and
[00:28:16] of course I want to thank our viewers for watching us here at RT, see you next
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[00:29:22] crimeia here in Iran. We've traveled
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[00:29:29] It's actually quite a beautiful day here.
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[00:29:40] forbidden questions, i'm asking them, what's a free country? are
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[00:29:48] buzz out there that you would make a great next president the united
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[00:30:06] effect, tens of millions are now watching and we're just
[00:30:10] getting
[00:30:11] started.
[00:30:22] This is regular hospital here in Dunes, there isn't a single
[00:30:26] military uh facility in the
[00:30:29] area, this is right in the center of... the
[00:30:33] city. Ukraine strikes a hospital in the Donietsk People's
[00:30:37] Republic, killing one woman and wounding two other people. Local
[00:30:41] authorities say that the drone used in the attack was of western
[00:30:44] origin. There are documented cases of
[00:30:48] western weapons supplied to Kieve, ending up in the hands of militants in Africa
[00:30:52] as well as in Latin America and the Middle East. Russia's envoy to the
[00:30:55] United Nations says the West is using Kiev to wage a
[00:30:59] proxy.