RT — Sanchez Effect 20260806 143000 UTC 449 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] it just started like progressively, like [00:00:03] small, we have [00:00:07] to continue our walk for the rest of our life to turn [00:00:11] this world into a beautiful world, will you walk with [00:00:16] of us? [00:00:27] of so... can Tucker [00:00:30] Carlson, can Joe Kent, Thomas Massy, Margery Taylor [00:00:34] Greene, [00:00:36] of in lead the way to new America, perhaps a new party in America, new [00:00:40] type of government in America, well uh, it may [00:00:44] be something that is in the works. This is what you need [00:00:48] to know and hear about on this [00:00:50] day. Not only did we fix it, we have [00:00:54] military standing there watching it. We know [00:00:58] that the parties are aligned. on the issues that [00:01:02] of matter against the population, i think they [00:01:04] misjudged iran, they thought they were dealing with [00:01:08] another Iraq or Syria or Saudi [00:01:12] Arabia or Libya, and they [00:01:15] weren't to believe that my engineers [00:01:19] can create hypersonic missiles, to come to [00:01:23] that is a big step in [00:01:25] decolonization, no ship [00:01:28] of now can enter odessa [00:01:31] and um any other Ukrainian black [00:01:34] seat. There is really lot going on on this [00:01:37] day, lot to [00:01:38] of chew on, you know, this is the effect. Let's do [00:01:41] this. [00:01:47] Hello again everybody, I'm Rick Sanchez. So many millions of you are watching every day and I want to thank you [00:01:51] for being there, and I want to start the show today by literally showing you [00:01:55] a photograph. Take a look at this, that's uh Tucker [00:01:59] Carlson's... dining room table right, he invited some friends, that's Thomas [00:02:02] Massy, now you see Marjerie Taylor Greene at the very end over [00:02:06] there, and you see Joe Kent, there on the right, [00:02:10] uh, the other two women are their spouses by the way, and the [00:02:14] they're meeting with Tucker at his uh kitchen table to build what may be [00:02:18] new order or or new party moving forward in the United [00:02:21] States. See, all [00:02:23] of these folks that you see here, by the way, used to be with Mr. Trump, but they're [00:02:27] now opposing what he's doing, and the fact that he's turned. out to be no [00:02:31] me of different, Mr. Trump is turning out to be no different than Mr. Biden [00:02:35] or Mr. Obama, or Mr. Bush or Mr. I [00:02:39] could go on, yeah, the guys who came before [00:02:42] him, we [00:02:45] of know that the [00:02:47] of parties are aligned on the issues that matter [00:02:50] against the population, [00:02:52] now how do we [00:02:52] know it's against the population because we have public opinion [00:02:54] in polling, and it may not be precisely right, but over time we get a pretty clear picture [00:02:58] of people's priorities. "and the big things [00:03:02] that the US government endorsed by both parties are doing, which is spying on [00:03:06] you more, moving ever growing share [00:03:09] of gross domestic product to a smaller percentage [00:03:12] of the population, invading countries, spending 1.5 trillion dollar a [00:03:16] year a military, they can't win a war, etc., etc., etc., all things that they're doing [00:03:19] the big things. population doesn't want those things. let me fill in some of [00:03:23] those etc. etc. etc. that he was just talking about. billionaires are allowed to [00:03:27] cheat in the United States today, more than..." [00:03:29] oligarchs [00:03:36] and [00:03:36] said in [00:03:39] 1990s the [00:03:48] of you will pay taxes from now if you want to [00:03:52] stay and [00:03:53] of you will have to give back what you've stolen [00:03:55] the Japanese for example they do the same thing culturally they [00:03:58] humiliate almost. to the point of [00:04:01] of hari right, their business people, if they catch them in mal [00:04:05] feisans, mr. shi in china even, right, shuts [00:04:09] down chinese companies overnight that are caught cheating the [00:04:12] people, but in the US, it's a lot like France and [00:04:16] Iran, right, just before their respective revolutions [00:04:20] that changed everything, it's unbridled [00:04:23] malphesens, hoarding, [00:04:26] of bribing, insider deals, all of this, the [00:04:30] United States today is going [00:04:32] unpunished, it's just bribery for bribery [00:04:35] sake, [00:04:37] and and by [00:04:37] the way, it's done out in the open, politically and in the [00:04:41] business [00:04:48] let's talk about that, the most expensive military in the [00:04:52] history [00:04:52] of the world, and yet there is an apparent lack of readiness [00:04:56] and competence that right now is... [00:05:00] mostly with just one word: [00:05:03] Iran. I think you simply have an [00:05:06] example of very large and expensive [00:05:09] in military establishment that over many many years. was [00:05:13] reduced in size without making any [00:05:15] accommodations with change, that new [00:05:19] technology, new forms of warfare [00:05:22] required, and so it's a very wonderful, small but [00:05:26] wonderful tribute to the arm forces the second world [00:05:29] war and the cold war, nothing's [00:05:33] changed, nothing has [00:05:36] changed, hear those words, nothing has [00:05:39] changed, so listen to what he just said and what that means, when he says nothing has [00:05:43] changed, which begs this question, how can nothing have [00:05:47] changed a military apparatus since the 1940s [00:05:51] and 50s, since we now today spend up to [00:05:55] two trillion dollars on that defense and [00:05:58] military apparatus, when we used to spend, i looked it [00:06:02] up, $13 billion dollars in the 1950s [00:06:05] and we did better, [00:06:09] how do you do better with 13 billion as opposed to two trillion? mean [00:06:13] the percentage between 13 billion and two trillion [00:06:16] what it is, it's less than 1%. so so now we're spending tens [00:06:20] of thousands of times more on defense, and we get a [00:06:24] military that is shown up [00:06:27] badly by Iran, why? what it [00:06:31] is, in many ways, it's [00:06:35] about, it's about morals, it's about [00:06:38] culture, the American culture the [00:06:40] 1950s. Right, 40's, 50's, 60's, wherever you [00:06:44] want to draw your line, it was about pride, it was [00:06:48] about service, you know what it's about [00:06:51] today, pure and simple, [00:06:55] greed, it's about greed, and [00:06:59] if you follow the money, especially in the military, what you're going to find out, [00:07:03] that that money, right, is being spent, not on [00:07:06] soldiers, not even on really better weapons per say as we're seeing in [00:07:10] Iran, right, it's being used. to make very few [00:07:13] people who own, run or associated with the military contracting [00:07:17] corporations phenomenally rich, phenomenally [00:07:21] rich, but let me go back [00:07:23] to the question, let's go back [00:07:25] to the question of Iran, why them aren't you, I mean, [00:07:28] I would been perplexed by, I thought Iran was going to get its butt whipped, I really [00:07:32] did, and I was there, right, just before the bombs [00:07:35] fell, why them, how did they, how have they been [00:07:39] able to show up the U.S. [00:07:43] listen, I think they misjudged [00:07:46] Iran, they thought they were dealing with another Iraq [00:07:50] or Syria or Saudi Arabia or [00:07:54] Libya, and they weren't, and they've gotten an [00:07:57] education the hard way, and now, instead of [00:08:01] recognizing the limits of our power and the prudent [00:08:04] action that should be taken, which is to disengage and get [00:08:08] out of this mess, I'm afraid we're doubling down on failure. [00:08:13] We're doubling down on failure, says Doug [00:08:15] McGregor. So how is Iran [00:08:18] different? I've been tostling with this, right, ever [00:08:22] since I've been following and covering this war and going there and talking to [00:08:26] Irachi and other Iranian ministers. To better understand this, I [00:08:30] had a conversation last night with Professor Mohammed Morandi, [00:08:34] and and this is what I wanted to know, how it is that they were able to develop such incredible [00:08:38] arsenal of of of weapons and missiles and rockets [00:08:42] and... and drones and missile defenses, without anybody [00:08:45] even noticing that they were doing this at the time. here it [00:08:49] is. can you explain to us how [00:08:53] Iran was able to come up with all these hypersonic [00:08:56] mistles and still be using them to this day and hide them in [00:09:00] such a way and build them in such a way so that nobody knew that they would have it and [00:09:04] then still be able to be so effective with them? can [00:09:07] you explain that to me buse it seemed to come out of [00:09:11] nowhere? i think... It's the decolonization the mind when [00:09:14] after the revolution the Iranians began to believe in themselves, come on, come [00:09:18] on, no, [00:09:20] I'm going to stop you, Venezuelans believe in themselves and what happened [00:09:23] to them, Cubans believe in themselves and they're about to be [00:09:27] taken, it's it's more than believing in yourself, you got [00:09:31] to have a big gun, where'd you get the guns, but the [00:09:34] thing is, but the thing is that when you the [00:09:37] decolonization the mind goes further than that, rick, you have to [00:09:41] believe that... you can you can beat them, so you have [00:09:45] to start thinking how to beat them, oh can i match them with technology with [00:09:49] my technology? of course, you can't defeat them, you have to buy [00:09:53] f16s and if they give you f16s they're going to give you [00:09:57] like the the older generation stuff, i need an [00:10:00] f35, okay they may give it to you, they may not give it to [00:10:04] you, and then when they give it to you it's going to be like two three generations older, and then [00:10:08] what happens in war, the first thing they do is they bomb your airports and your 35s or... [00:10:13] and so to believe that my my [00:10:17] my engineers can create [00:10:20] hypersonic missiles to come to [00:10:23] that is a... step in [00:10:37] so is that the difference? Iran didn't build [00:10:41] you, the military so that some people in the country [00:10:44] could get rich, or or some people who were [00:10:48] associated with that company could get rich, or that the politicians could get [00:10:52] fed money or something, as is the case with... with the United States right [00:10:56] now, and then in the end there's nobody [00:10:59] there to say, well, it didn't work, well, [00:11:03] we got to do something about that, no, they just say, okay, who cares, the money's gone, we'll [00:11:07] just come up with some new money, that's what happens, no, that's not what happens in [00:11:10] Iran, right, it seems to me from my [00:11:13] reporting that uh, it built the equipment just like the United States [00:11:17] did during World War II, they built it because the [00:11:21] need, the motivation for them was existential. [00:11:25] Right, existential. In other words, we got to all pulled [00:11:29] together, and [00:11:30] we got to do this for our very survival, for our children, for our [00:11:34] families. That, that's the difference. [00:11:38] And that's how Professor Morondi was trying to help me [00:11:41] understand in this conversation where I was pushing back on [00:11:44] him, the real reason Iran is winning. It's not about [00:11:48] magic bullet. It's about the magic in their hearts, I [00:11:51] guess. Something America cannot. "my [00:11:55] country just doesn't have right now, we've had it, maybe it's [00:11:59] just, [00:11:59] you know, maybe it'll come back, I hope so, because [00:12:03] America's busy right now, I guess, it's busy with some strange, [00:12:06] bizarre stuff, bizarre stuff that, by the way, [00:12:10] it's not just coming from the left or the right, or the Democrats or the Republicans, it's coming from [00:12:14] both. I'll start with the Democrats, here's an example of something I found just this [00:12:17] morning, right? well, the Middle East is on fire, we could be [00:12:21] on the brink of nuclear war with Ukraine." because of [00:12:25] NATO's need for more territory and more money, what are they talking [00:12:29] about in the Democratic Party? here's the ad. one of [00:12:33] many that's running right now to elect a Democrat. this is Marky in [00:12:37] Massachusetts ad. listen, a [00:12:41] time when transgender people are under attack, Ed is taking action, [00:12:45] leading efforts to pass a transgender bill of rights, expand access [00:12:49] to gender affirming care and ban dangerous defenses that [00:12:53] excuse violence against LGBT. plus people [00:12:57] LGB2 [00:12:58] LGBTQ [00:13:02] plus, you just have to wonder, I mean, really, is is that what we want [00:13:06] to talk about? And what about the Republican Party? Let's talk about what the [00:13:10] Republican Party's talking about. Here's the President the United States last [00:13:14] night, talking about using the [00:13:17] military, right? The US military that we're talking about right now and how [00:13:21] they're not doing a good job in Iran, apparently, right? but he's going to be [00:13:25] using them instead to protect his dirty [00:13:29] reflecting pool, a swimming pool outside the white [00:13:33] house, because well, here he is talking about the [00:13:37] reflecting pool while wars are being lost and [00:13:41] economic conditions for average Americans are literally tanking [00:13:44] right now, listen, not only did we fix it, we have [00:13:48] military standing there watching it, and if anybody [00:13:51] touches it, we that was the one mistake with the reflecting... but they hadn't put [00:13:55] up the cameras yet, they had enough up because you see what's [00:13:59] happening, but if they would have had them up uh, we would have had lot [00:14:03] of, it would have been a lot easier. reflecting [00:14:06] pool cameras, is he really talking [00:14:10] about this? mean if you're watching us and i know we got like 10, [00:14:14] 20 million people sometimes watching us from all over the world, whatever corner your world that [00:14:33] that really do matter, there is Ukraine, right? talk about [00:14:36] existential, Ukraine and the war with Russia, which continues [00:14:40] and continues. It's something Mr. Trump doesn't talk [00:14:44] about anymore these days, he used to, the west in general, [00:14:47] Europe, NATO, EU, more specifically, they don't even [00:14:51] want to talk about it, because because of what's happening right now, and [00:15:25] dessa, something Russian generals have long wanted to do, and they finally [00:15:29] got in the go ahead to do just that, and guess what it [00:15:33] is, [00:15:33] and I'll show you a little bit, but here, it's making a huge difference. [00:15:39] ready: no ship now can enter [00:15:42] Odessa and any other Ukrainian [00:15:46] black seaport, and over the last [00:15:50] um two days or so, the Russians have [00:15:53] taken this escalation a whole step further, [00:15:57] because Russian aircraft, [00:16:00] 34, fighter bombers have started to [00:16:04] drop these f. decision [00:16:08] guided bombs on the harbor installations in [00:16:11] Odessa and in other places, which tell us that [00:16:15] the air defenses of Odessa have completely collapsed so [00:16:19] that Russian Hcroft can now operate [00:16:22] within range, bombing range of [00:16:26] Odessa, [00:16:27] that is so important, that's huge right, that the air [00:16:31] defenses have collapsed for the Ukrainians around [00:16:34] Odessa, all right, let me let me show you what I'm talking. about we're [00:16:38] going to put map together, so I'm going to show you the two regions, remember I told you there are three [00:16:41] geographic regions that we're talking about right now, it means that [00:16:45] this, at least as far as Odessa is concerned [00:16:47] is no longer just about drones, it's about complete air [00:16:50] superiority over the theater for the Russians that are [00:16:54] now going to [00:16:55] be able to use again aircraft and missile technology [00:16:59] right, what they're going to [00:17:01] be able to do now in this area around Odessa for the first [00:17:04] time is described best with one word: [00:17:08] Right, control, they will now [00:17:11] control this area and control the [00:17:15] black sea, who goes in, who goes out, what they're going to be able to get, it [00:17:19] appears the generals who've been arguing this with Mr. Putin [00:17:23] now to do this for more than year apparently, but Mr. Putin refused because he [00:17:27] didn't want [00:17:27] to upset India and he didn't want [00:17:28] to upset Turkey, and I guess that's understandable, you know, he didn't want all the countries in [00:17:32] this region that use the black sea to be upset with Russia, well [00:17:36] guess what, those... generals appear now to have won this [00:17:39] argument, and and here's the [00:17:43] most ironic thing about all of this: it was [00:17:46] Zelensky who helped the generals win [00:17:50] their argument with Mr. Putin, why? because it was [00:17:54] Zelensky and the Ukrainians who started targeting Russian [00:17:57] naval ships here. the Russians said, okay, we're not going to blockade this, we're going to let [00:18:01] this, everybody just go through as they want, and then Ukraine [00:18:05] hit 100 Russian vessels. '27 [00:18:08] them were naval vessels in the black sea and [00:18:11] then um Zelensky goes to uh Europe and he [00:18:15] brags about it, look what I did, I, I destroyed the Russian [00:18:33] well with Russia now having [00:18:37] domin'. of this area right here and the ports [00:18:40] around Odessa, right, which is how and where Ukraine [00:18:44] in large measure gets its supplies, its military supplies [00:18:48] and otherwise to feed and equip its troops that [00:18:52] are that are on the front, right? the [00:18:55] situation on the front looking more dire every day, no [00:18:59] less, we we now [00:19:02] have to ask the question, without this and with what's going on [00:19:05] here, how long Ukraine hold out, [00:19:09] Europeans are looking at this, they're not talking about it, but damn well that they're looking at this right [00:19:13] now, buse this is what's actually going on on the front right now, you're not going to hear from the [00:19:17] west, you're going to hear it here, right, cuz we're at least trying to look at it [00:19:21] and be fair about it, if Ukraine's winning we do the same thing, but it looks like Russia is winning this [00:19:25] thing because these conditions that we're talking about, now there's consistent [00:19:28] reports that what is left the Ukrainian troops [00:19:32] around the donbas and Zaparia for example are also cracking right [00:19:36] now, does it have to? do with the fact that they're not being able to get lot of supply, it [00:19:40] could be, but whatever it is, we know [00:19:44] this, around this operasia, [00:19:46] you know, it's huge, because if those [00:19:50] defenses of Ukraine are cracking in this area right in [00:19:53] here, it's specifically important [00:19:57] for their ability to be able to defend anything in this [00:20:05] okay, that's Zaparisia right there, that's... "if the Russians are [00:20:09] able to take Zaparia and it's looking like they're awfully close, that's the [00:20:13] Russians right there in the red or pinkish, whatever [00:20:16] you want [00:20:16] to call it, if they're able to take Zaparia, they're going to go all [00:20:20] the way through river to essentially the Nipro [00:20:23] area, and and if they go to the nepro, they can [00:20:27] go west toward host of cities, or they can even [00:20:31] go all the way down to odessa that they now [00:20:34] control, because they have air superior." [00:20:38] there [00:20:39] and and dumbas in general, we've been telling you about this, the dumbas in [00:20:42] general, is almost a done deal right [00:20:46] now, [00:20:47] I mean the Russians are not. knock, they they're [00:20:51] knocking on the door and the the you [00:20:54] know they're soon, according to reports going to be able to go into [00:20:58] one city, and this is a really important city that I'm going to be telling you about right now, [00:21:02] this is called Dobropilla, look at Dobropia right there [00:21:06] on the map, see it right there, that's dopropia right up there, [00:21:09] right, right under the sign that says slovians, but actually it's further to the [00:21:13] west, that's west of both Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, which [00:21:17] is really important right, [00:21:23] are all but in the bag right now, mean the troops are just on the outskirts the city and [00:21:27] they're about to go in, not taken yet, but [00:21:31] having dopropilia right gives Russia a way to cut [00:21:34] off the military supplies that would be able to help the [00:21:38] Ukrainians do whatever defense they can of [00:21:42] slovyansk and [00:21:57] beyond this, it's going to allow the Russians if they go to [00:22:00] Saparisia and control Odessa and have these two [00:22:04] cities [00:22:05] plus, [00:22:10] then essentially it's kind of Katie by the door in many ways for [00:22:14] them, and it's you know, it's not me saying this, this is what the military [00:22:17] experts that I read when I sit around looking. at people who are actually looking [00:22:21] at these maps, this is what they're saying as well [00:22:25] that, it could be, who knows, russian control the [00:22:29] donbas could now be possibly just matter of [00:22:33] weeks, [00:22:39] okay, so when we come back, i want [00:22:42] to introduce you to somebody, all right, when we come back, i'm going to ask this question, i'm going to ask it of [00:22:46] him, why would an American pick up his life, his wife, his [00:22:50] eight children and move to Russia of all [00:22:53] places. I Rick Sanchez should be asking that. I'm going to introduce you [00:22:57] to Joseph Schutzman uh, he has done that. Why? How's it [00:23:01] going? What are his thoughts about all [00:23:08] Um, you know, I was just canceled by YouTube. I told you about this, [00:23:12] right? They made almost all my work disappear, because I don't work at [00:23:15] CNN, because I don't work at Fox. If I worked at those places, I'd be fine. It's crazy, I [00:23:19] know. so what's the solution? do a favor, this is what i've [00:23:23] done, you may want to check it out, go to bitsoot.com, all my [00:23:26] stuff is there right now, there's my page, and uh, it's going to be there [00:23:30] forever, because they do not make content disappear, they don't [00:23:34] make creators like rick sanchez disappear, like youtube does to [00:23:38] me, we'll be right [00:23:40] back. [00:25:58] let's do this I want you to I want I want you to meet somebody this is uh Joseph [00:26:01] Schutzman. "I've been wanting to have a show with him for quite some time. In [00:26:05] fact, I i've told my my staff and I told Natasha, I said, you [00:26:09] know, this is fascinating story. Let let let's tell the [00:26:12] story, because you're not the only one of people who have come from [00:26:16] Russia and decided to live in Russia, [00:26:20] who come from America, now now you and I have something [00:26:23] particularly uh similar, right? You [00:26:55] like amazing so you are cuban american now [00:26:59] living in Russia yes now the important part isn't the cuban part although "there's a whole [00:27:03] story behind that because the relationship between Cuba and the Soviet [00:27:06] Union, but before we get to that uh, let's just talk about [00:27:10] why you made your decision, people would want to know why, why would you [00:27:13] leave the greatest country in the in the planet, we always told the [00:27:17] greatest country in the world, and by the way, and in many ways it is, yeah, in many [00:27:21] ways it is, at least in many ways it was, yeah, let's put it that way, put it that way, [00:27:25] I think you may have point there, yeah, it's unfortunate you, because [00:27:29] look, I, so we actually moved with six children, we've been here. for three years [00:27:33] now and you continued breeding of course [00:27:35] of course like uh you catholic uh little [00:27:38] bit traditional catholic uh this is my my [00:27:42] grandmother my abulita yes she my buela uh she has [00:27:46] 150 grandchildren now so [00:28:07] um, we we basically it just had [00:28:10] arrived to that it wasn't feasible anymore in in [00:28:14] America to protect the innocence of our children. you know, I was [00:28:18] told growing up by my own father, yeah, that children are like a beautiful [00:28:22] white canvas, that's how they're come into the world. they have no expectations, and whatever [00:28:25] you paint on that canvas, that's what it's going to look like. what, what is it, [00:28:29] like they came home one day and said, dad, look what they told us. school this month we have [00:28:33] to we have to all worship gay pride month or whatever or something like [00:28:37] that right was six when i left we homeschool all of our [00:28:41] children and people said the same thing [00:28:43] you know like okay well you can at least protect your children no I'm [00:28:46] sorry all their uh the children that are their age [00:28:50] they're going to school as to public school right and they're [00:28:54] going to meet one day and they're going to have to live a society that's like [00:28:58] that people lot to think about here and now but we really have to start considering our... [00:29:02] future nowadays, this is why we have so many children, we got to actually [00:29:06] bring more children into this world while unfortunately so many people are [00:29:10] taking them out. yeah, and it's interesting because the experience I've had so far in Russia, and by [00:29:14] the way, just to be clear, when I say this about gay Pride Month, it it's [00:29:18] not about hating people who are gay or disallowing people for being who they [00:29:22] are, it's it's about the promotion of something. I i [00:29:25] don't want my children to go to a school where they are forced [00:29:29] for an entire month to celebrate something, that i may not [00:29:33] necessarily either a agree with or b agree should be [00:29:37] celebrated to that degree, that's all. i'm [00:29:40] not saying you're not allowed to be gay, hate gay. no, i that's not what we're [00:29:43] about, but it just seems like it's not the government's place, and the [00:29:47] difference that i see in Russia, correct me if i'm wrong, [00:29:50] is they don't promote or [00:29:53] celebrate lifestyles or even for [00:29:56] example, i don't like the fact that we celebrate Hispanic heritage month in [00:30:00] the United States, why? i'm Hispanic. [00:30:04] yeah, absolutely, or black history, for example, yeah, no, it [00:30:08] it's absolutely true uh, but I will say one thing for Russia that they [00:30:12] do celebrate a normal society, like for example, a good friend of mine, [00:30:16] Fabrice sorlin, his wife just received the award for Mother Hero [00:30:20] for having 10 children in Russia, they celebrate family here, you [00:30:23] know, this is something there's so much mut incentivized [00:30:27] incentive it as well, it's not incentivized in the United States, but [00:30:31] it is here, if you have... children, you get lower tax base, if you [00:30:35] have children, you get other credits for food, etc., if [00:30:38] you're a woman and you get pregnant, you get 14 months [00:30:42] paid leave at your home so you can spend the rest more than year with [00:30:46] your child, that doesn't exist in the United States, we don't have that, cheaper mortgage rates, sometimes [00:30:50] mortgage rates, cheaper car loans, i like [00:30:54] again, they act like they actually want to have children in their country, [00:30:58] yeah, our country doesn't act like that anymore.