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[00:00:00] Hispanic, I'm proud to be Hispanic, but I don't need a month,
[00:00:03] of absolutely, or black history, for example, yeah, no, it it's
[00:00:06] absolutely true uh, but I will say one thing for Russia that they do
[00:00:10] celebrate a normal
[00:00:12] of society, like for example, a good friend of mine, Fabrice Sollin, his wife just received
[00:00:16] the award for Mother Hero for having 10 children in Russia,
[00:00:20] they celebrate family here, you
[00:00:22] of know, this is something there's so much money, incentivized
[00:00:25] incentive it, as well, it's not incentivized in the United
[00:00:28] of States, but
[00:00:29] it is here. you have children, you
[00:00:31] of get lower tax base, if you
[00:00:33] of have children, you get other credits for food, etc. if you're
[00:00:37] a woman and you get pregnant, you get 14 months
[00:00:40] paid leave at your home so you can spend the rest more than year with
[00:00:44] your child, that doesn't exist in the united states, we don't have that, cheaper mortgage rates, sometimes
[00:00:48] of mortgage rates, cheaper car loans,
[00:00:51] i like again, they act like they actually want to have children in
[00:00:55] their country, yeah, our country doesn't act like that anymore, is it children or family, it
[00:00:59] seems like there's a real, here's something I noticed as soon as I came here, I
[00:01:03] of went to the parks, right? I was living close to the city of Moscow, and every day I'd
[00:01:07] go for a jog, like dumb boring American, it's all I had to do, put on
[00:01:11] jogging shorts and go for a jog, and I'm going through all these green spaces and all these
[00:01:14] parks
[00:01:15] and what do I see benches, stories,
[00:01:18] history, I'm seeing things that are swings,
[00:01:22] I'm seeing things that are inviting
[00:01:24] of families, come spend time here, yes, be family
[00:01:28] in this area, you know, and... to your point,
[00:01:31] in the United States by
[00:01:32] of the way, I gotta and I got
[00:01:32] to say this, the United States, our parks are locked, that's right, there's a
[00:01:36] of lock
[00:01:36] on them, and I used to get mad, I say, I'm paying taxes, why can't I go to the park, oh no,
[00:01:40] we've reserved it today for the such and such league of whatever the
[00:01:44] hell, I don't know, soccer
[00:01:45] a league, yeah, LGBT baseball, stop
[00:01:49] it, uh, no, but like to your point, you, you,
[00:01:53] you're
[00:01:54] of uh, you remember when you were kid, I mean, I
[00:01:56] of remember when I was kid, do I
[00:01:58] of ever, the growing up as cuban? and yeah right,
[00:02:01] but I don't remember the
[00:02:03] a park's being locked that, I remember families going to the park, I remember
[00:02:07] that - the the big holidays in
[00:02:09] a America were tremendously celebrated, kids were running all over the place, you got me
[00:02:12] talking about something that is is so dear and near to me, I was one
[00:02:16] of the people who so looked up
[00:02:18] of to the uh recreation directors who were paid by the city to be
[00:02:22] in the park to recreate children that as soon as I got my first job guess
[00:02:26] of what it was, working
[00:02:27] in a park, coaching coaching boys and girls. was baseball and
[00:02:31] football and stuff buse i thought that was important today you go to a park in
[00:02:34] america there are no wreck leaders, there's a guy who moves the
[00:02:38] lawn yeah that's right that's it that's right so so there's
[00:02:40] a an absolute difference in how they view and incentivize what families
[00:02:44] can do together but you go to you've seen this you go into uh restaurants in moscow
[00:02:48] they have playrooms in the restaurants i like showed up and i'm like what this
[00:02:52] is like kitty paradise
[00:02:54] of here of which sometimes is frustrating buse the kids are loud but nobody but but people
[00:02:58] say no their kids let them be lou exactly, exactly, that's
[00:03:02] the sound
[00:03:02] of of their future, we have that at McDonald's in the United States, but they have that at every
[00:03:06] restaurant here in Moscow, that's right, they have a place for the kids to play while their parents
[00:03:10] are dining, even at four, five star restaurants, I mean like high-end restaurants even
[00:03:14] they have, it's incredible, what do you say when when people in
[00:03:18] America ask you, what
[00:03:19] are you doing in Russia, don't
[00:03:20] you know that's
[00:03:21] a crazy dangerous communist place and poot in this and putting
[00:03:25] that and all that, do do you even talk to people anymore or do you oh no,
[00:03:28] I talk to lots of people. "I talk to uh my friends and my family, of course I
[00:03:32] miss
[00:03:33] a all
[00:03:33] of them, I don't really miss the the society, especially in the post
[00:03:37] covid world, that that place just got crazy. I mean,
[00:03:40] my sometimes I show my wife like, hey, look, this is what's going on. We look back, we're
[00:03:44] like, we used to live there, like, what, yeah, and it's really sad,
[00:03:48] because when you're inside the fish bowl, you don't really appreciate how bad
[00:03:52] it really is, cuz you just, it's gradually increasing, and now you look
[00:03:56] back and you're just like, it is, it's crazy, so I talked to..." friends and
[00:04:00] family and um we still have you know good
[00:04:03] relationships with everybody, but nobody really
[00:04:06] understands uh at least from family perspective
[00:04:10] uh some of my friends, some of my uncles understand and even
[00:04:14] they're very interested in this you
[00:04:16] of know this story and how it continues, but I talked to tons
[00:04:20] of people who are not
[00:04:22] of related to me, not my friends who reach out to me from uh my
[00:04:25] channel just seeing they're like, wow there's a guy with a large family here, he's
[00:04:29] making it how? is that possible? we want to do something like that too, and
[00:04:33] big families,
[00:04:34] of mean i have one talking to one family,
[00:04:35] i have 12 kids. wow, yeah, so well, russians love
[00:04:38] americans, they do, it's really shocking, they're just totally in love with our
[00:04:42] culture and us,
[00:04:45] of and it's embarrassing, is it? i it is for me, and i imagine it's embarrassing
[00:04:49] for
[00:04:49] of you, that they so, put a pedestal
[00:04:53] our culture and our songs, and if you go to the mall, and if you go anywhere, it's
[00:04:57] American songs, american music, american
[00:05:00] of in lettering. american banners, american everything, and we treat
[00:05:02] of them like dog poop, that is such
[00:05:06] nice way of putting it, i was going to use another word,
[00:05:10] i know, but i caught myself, "we really do, mean
[00:05:14] they've done everything, but put their hand out, how do we join you, we want to be like
[00:05:18] you, you know, let's combine our militaries, let's let's
[00:05:21] combine our nuks, let let us join NATO, and we're like, no, get out of here, you
[00:05:25] russian pigs, we don't want
[00:05:26] to have anything to do with you, we want to be a war with you, yeah, no, I when I showed up in
[00:05:30] Russia for the first time in February 2023, I was here on like the third day, and I
[00:05:34] finally turned to my friend, I just said, why isn't somebody coming up and like acosting at
[00:05:38] me, I would, like, I would understand if somebody just came and yelled at me, like,
[00:05:42] what is your?" " country doing and he looked at me like kind of cock hide and
[00:05:46] he's like, what
[00:05:46] do you mean, we love Americans, we just hate your government, I was like, oh, I guess we
[00:05:50] could be friends, I do too, like that's the situation, and so
[00:05:54] talking with uh, with the the like with Russians like you say, it's almost
[00:05:58] embarrassing how much they admire us and even
[00:06:02] they admire us for things that aren't real anymore, yeah,
[00:06:06] that's that's even, well that's because during the so this is this is, I'm glad
[00:06:10] you went there, what I find from Russia. especially the older ones is
[00:06:13] because they live through uh lot them or their parents lived through the soviet era
[00:06:17] when things did suck here and uh they look to
[00:06:21] america as that really special place that beacon on the
[00:06:25] hill as Mr Reagan once said um they don't know that that's
[00:06:28] not like that anymore they they they're still because they grew up
[00:06:32] watching those movies and tv shows and all that stuff you know you know my
[00:06:36] assistant Marie is always we got to go to New York and I'm thinking New York is a
[00:06:39] pit
[00:06:41] and I'm like no don't go there, no, yeah, here's the
[00:06:45] thing with me, I think though, Joseph, for me, it's about the
[00:06:49] corruption, it it's just gotten so that
[00:06:53] everything is about either
[00:06:57] materialism, money, yeah, and it's always been, the world
[00:07:01] has always been that way, but it just seems today like, I mean, I'm not the most godly
[00:07:04] guy in the world, but I'm a Catholic, and I go to church and I believe in God, and I just think
[00:07:08] that deep down, you got to be able to look at yourself and look at your God in the mirror, or
[00:07:12] whatever
[00:07:12] it is you look if you don't happen to be religious
[00:07:15] a person and find that thing in you that says
[00:07:19] i'm doing the right thing. i can't see how
[00:07:23] some guy who's a hundred times billionaire or
[00:07:26] trillionaire can can be in that place and there's every
[00:07:30] day more them and more poor people so that bothers me.
[00:07:34] no
[00:07:35] it it is it's something to be worried about and concerned
[00:07:38] about and again it goes back to the same thing as once you've been living in.
[00:07:42] this same cycle over and over again, we've gotten
[00:07:45] dessensitized to that, and you almost have to like cleanse
[00:07:49] yourself by leaving the country just so you can look back at it with
[00:07:53] clearer lens, but it's really really horrible and it continues to get
[00:07:56] worse. i talked to my uncle back uh five years ago,
[00:08:00] and he called me up, he's like, joseph, man, just the world is just getting so
[00:08:04] horrible, and i said buckle up buddy, it's going to get a whole lot worse, but it
[00:08:08] seems like the west, our countries, whether you're looking if you whether you're watching us right? now
[00:08:12] from the UK or Germany or the United States or any these western
[00:08:15] countries,
[00:08:17] you know, I, I, I, I find that it's worse there than
[00:08:20] it is in the countries we were talked to hate, yes, I find more
[00:08:24] unity in China, in India,
[00:08:26] in in the Middle East and in Russia than I do in our own countries,
[00:08:30] and hell of lot less corruption, and when I look at the the
[00:08:34] popularity polls for example, or the pulls they do on politicians, I find that leaders
[00:08:38] like Modi and Chi and Putin and these guys, they're more like by their people.
[00:08:42] than our leaders are, I mean, the guy in the UK, Starmer was at
[00:08:45] 12%, this guy in France, Macron is a like
[00:08:48] 18%, Mr. Trump is at 36%. Putin
[00:08:52] love him or hate him, he's around 70 or 80%, so is she, so is
[00:08:56] Modi, but they're supposed to be the bad guys, and and
[00:08:59] we're and everybody sitting back at home in America thinking, that's not possible, how
[00:09:03] could somebody love a leader of a country so much that they would have
[00:09:07] 70 or 80% approval rating, like that's unheard of, that's not possible,
[00:09:11] buse they comfortable with their. Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly, that's
[00:09:15] that's kind of what it is, and what do you think of Tucker and these
[00:09:19] guys, you saw, I started the show with that today, Tucker's just fed
[00:09:22] up, and he, who's a friend of mine on the right,
[00:09:26] uh, Jack Hugger, who's a friend of mine on the left, because I don't think there's any difference in the
[00:09:30] end, um, they're coming together and trying to form
[00:09:34] something that gives the United States, our country,
[00:09:37] really, back to the people, isn't that at
[00:09:41] the essence what the government is? supposed to do and where did they drop the ball and when did they stop doing that and do
[00:09:45] you perceive that? i do, i i think i have
[00:09:49] probably not the most motivating perspective on on
[00:09:52] that uh, it's it's unfortunate, i think tucker's a great guy, i think you
[00:09:56] thomas, i don't know any these people personally, you do uh, but they
[00:10:00] seem like really genuinely good people, but the president said something several
[00:10:04] years ago which i thought was really uh
[00:10:07] realistic, i think, he just said,
[00:10:09] you know, people go into this public office a...
[00:10:12] and america and they think, okay, I'm going to change the world, I'm going to fix it all,
[00:10:16] and then the men with
[00:10:17] the the black suits come in and they leave, and they're different people, and I think
[00:10:21] in many ways
[00:10:22] that this may have been what even happened to Trump, maybe Trump was. actually
[00:10:25] sincere at the beginning, I hope that somehow we can break this
[00:10:29] cycle, but really at the end of it, our
[00:10:33] constitution was laid out pretty clearly that they knew that this
[00:10:36] was going to happen, they knew that this was going to be challenged, they knew that this
[00:10:40] corruption was going to sneak in, that's why we have these various
[00:10:44] amendments like the freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, all these
[00:10:47] concepts, but if you're not willing to use them, well yeah, then
[00:10:51] you're doomed to failure, so I wish all these guys.
[00:10:55] like all the best, but Americans are going to
[00:10:58] have to find that within themselves to actually, what does that step up?
[00:11:02] what does
[00:11:02] that mean?
[00:11:03] you said something interesting, the men in the black suits, some people call them the administrative state, some people
[00:11:07] call it the black, the deep state, what, whatever the hell you want to call
[00:11:11] it, there's no question that guys like you and i, just average Americans
[00:11:15] and so many other people who are listening to us in America, know
[00:11:19] that there is something in the background, something nefarious which is running the
[00:11:22] game, right? play the... that they're being played
[00:11:26] in many ways. doesn't that mean then that
[00:11:29] this country that we thought was democracy is really not a democracy? you
[00:11:33] know uh, democracies, i yes, the answer, if there's
[00:11:37] a force that that is unmovable and unchangeable, that is called
[00:11:41] in my name, in my game, in my way of looking it a dictatorship.
[00:11:45] yeah, no, look, democracies only survive by the
[00:11:49] virtue the people that live in that democracy. if your people are
[00:11:53] not virtuous, then you can't. have a real democracy, the
[00:11:56] democracy falls apart, and this goes to your point about the corruption,
[00:12:00] etc. there is so much corruption, this is how governments fall throughout
[00:12:04] history, we can look at them, the Romans when they fell into their debauchy and
[00:12:07] their hedenism and their corruption, everybody, one
[00:12:11] after the other, we're at the end of an age, and people really need to start
[00:12:15] waking up to that and not being so, you, it's not wrong to be
[00:12:19] proud of your country, but we need to expel pride from
[00:12:23] our sense.
[00:12:24] I've
[00:12:30] always hated exceptionalism, American exceptionalism I think is
[00:12:34] dirty word, yes,
[00:12:35] you know, it's like, well, you have to think we're the greatest country and we're the greatest
[00:12:39] and we can do anything we want because we're america and it's like, what are you talking
[00:12:43] about, do you know any, what do you know about china, what do
[00:12:46] you know about Russia, what do you know about India, what do
[00:12:48] you know about Iran, nothing, I think may maybe that's a big part the problem, you
[00:12:52] were talking about your children and you're worried about them growing up in America. "they grew up in America, they would
[00:12:56] be stupid, yeah, I mean, I'm sorry to say this, but that would be best case scenario,
[00:12:59] right, stupid, I would even take stupid, okay, you
[00:13:03] know what I'm talking about, all the other crap, that's what I'm talking about,
[00:13:07] yeah, yeah, exactly, would they have all their human parts on them,
[00:13:11] perhaps, you know, like these are these are real legitimate concerns,
[00:13:15] it is, it is, that whole LGBT trans thing, I, I, I, I, I, I
[00:13:19] get very frustrated with it, and I don't understand it, and I think there there,
[00:13:23] there's also a question of immorality there." not because people should be beat up for what they
[00:13:26] believe in if even if they've gone in wayward ways, but because I hate to see
[00:13:30] people being told that they have to be something that they don't understand, yeah, absolutely,
[00:13:34] and that's really what it is, and they get mad if you don't understand it, like,
[00:13:38] you don't know that I'm a cysgender, and it's like, I don't even know what that
[00:13:42] means,
[00:13:42] I don't
[00:13:43] have to spell it, yeah, it's like, the identification with
[00:13:47] these symbols and this terminology just makes me absolutely
[00:13:50] crazy, and then their impertinence, their inability to have the
[00:13:54] patience to say: 'well, I know, it probably kind of sounds weird
[00:13:57] to you, but here, I'll explain it to you. I, I would understand, I would have a conversation with somebody
[00:14:01] who understands things that
[00:14:02] I don't understand, but they don't
[00:14:04] do that, they like hit you over the head with it, like you're, you're a
[00:14:07] racist, you're a, you're a biggot, you're a whatever the hell that they
[00:14:11] call us, that is frustrating, no,
[00:14:13] it is, but it, but it's it's not even just that, it's like people become
[00:14:17] obsessed with this identity as opposed to how can they
[00:14:20] contribute to society, I want my children to contribute to society to a'.
[00:14:25] better future, that is not the way to better future to be obsessed with,
[00:14:29] who am I? teach him geography, teach him math, teach him english, teach
[00:14:32] him literature, these
[00:14:34] are the things I want my children to know, that's right, and they don't,
[00:14:38] and and it's like we were saying man, in America, one the most frustrating
[00:14:42] things is that I, I used to be a part of it, I mean, I,
[00:14:46] I, dude, I anchored the news at CNN, I anchored the news at Fox, I anchored the
[00:14:50] news at NBC, these are places that made me feel like I had
[00:14:53] to buy in and...
[00:14:55] to, not we're only not buy even in but expel this false narrative to people
[00:14:58] every day until I started looking at myself in the mirror and I'm saying, I'm
[00:15:02] lying
[00:15:03] to people, why? they they should know
[00:15:07] that things like the Ukraine war didn't happen because one day Russia just decided it wanted to
[00:15:11] invade Ukraine, you even if you don't want
[00:15:14] to like what they did, at least understand
[00:15:16] the motivation, but we're not allowed
[00:15:17] allowed to tell people that motivation, no, not allow to read about it, not none of this, and that's
[00:15:21] just one example, I just, you know, I could, I could have used any, but we happen to be talking about that.
[00:15:25] front the map today, that's that's a problem. yeah, it is. you
[00:15:28] said about the exceptionalism, i think that there's another interesting point
[00:15:31] there, because we talk about a awful lot when we're being feeling
[00:15:35] patriotic, maybe after 9/11. For example,
[00:15:38] we talk very very loudly about being one nation under God,
[00:15:42] which unfortunately I think that we're anything but or maybe we're not talking about
[00:15:46] the same god as the Christian God anyways, yeah, but
[00:15:49] exceptionalism is not a Christian concept,
[00:15:53] no at all, not in the slightest, nobody, God's like, I
[00:15:56] want you to tell you look at yourself in the morning every morning and say, I'm the best guy
[00:16:00] there is, Jesus was any, Jesus was anything
[00:16:04] but an exceptionalist, that's right, that's right, Jesus. about how do i bring
[00:16:08] myself down to be at the level the people who are beneath me, how
[00:16:12] do wash their feet? thank you, my god, you did grow up as
[00:16:15] catholic, we were taught that as children, you humble
[00:16:19] yourself, you find something about everybody that you
[00:16:22] can, you know, appreciate and love, yeah, and that's what i love
[00:16:26] about russians, they they have their own faults just like anybody else, they have
[00:16:30] their country has its own problems just like any other country has as
[00:16:34] problems, not the same problems, but they're...
[00:16:37] people, they're people who don't try to boost themselves up over
[00:16:41] everybody else, they approach like friends, they they
[00:16:45] still remember the the
[00:16:47] the the meeting at the elp, they remember that every year in Moscow
[00:16:51] when Russian soldiers ran and shook American soldiers
[00:16:54] hands, I was talking smack about what was going on in
[00:16:58] our military to a Russian
[00:17:01] paraatrooper, these are special forces in Russia right, these these are the
[00:17:04] top guys and I was smack talking buse I was like this... is crazy with all this and
[00:17:08] he's like, hey, careful, we were taught to respect
[00:17:12] those marines, we were taught to respect those marines, i
[00:17:16] was, he's like, we have a tremendous amount of admiration for the marines,
[00:17:20] yes, and you're like, right, what, we don't
[00:17:23] in america, the world war ii is all about the
[00:17:26] holocaust, and uh, and
[00:17:28] you know, with all due respect to all the horrible things that happened to many the Jews at the
[00:17:32] time there, yeah, it's a big part the story, but it's not the only part the story,
[00:17:36] we celebrate world. two in Normandy and the big uh the
[00:17:40] big the big uh kahunas there are the french
[00:17:44] yeah and when last time i checked the french lasted about a month and a half in world war
[00:17:47] i so why are we celebrating the french exactly and the russians are not
[00:17:51] allowed to go they're kept out the guys who actually
[00:17:55] won and defeated the nazis and lost 27 million
[00:17:58] people no no you guys stay out we're gonna have we're going to have mcrone give
[00:18:02] a speech that's crazy that's like you do you not know your
[00:18:06] history mhm It's okay, you
[00:18:07] want to hate Russia, hate Russia, but know the story of World War
[00:18:11] II, yes, that's like this woman who works in the EU, Kaya Calas, she
[00:18:15] recently said, I don't understand how the Chinese and the Russians have anything to do with World
[00:18:19] War II, it's like, are you stupid? I mean, you heard
[00:18:23] that, yeah, oh yeah, but she, but again, she's just lying to the freaking camera for
[00:18:27] crying out loud, her father was, is she or is she just stupid? no, she
[00:18:29] her father was like one the main characters the communist party in in her own
[00:18:33] country, yeah, for crying out loud, her husband does business in Russia for...
[00:18:37] crying out loud, what are you talking about? you know the you know the gig and you're
[00:18:41] just playing stupid i she is stupid, but i think she's playing more
[00:18:45] stupid then she's coming off as let's put it that way. what's what's the difference in
[00:18:49] the end? i don't know. do you think these people in like places like
[00:18:53] NATO and the EU, um, they're all rich,
[00:18:57] they're all bankers, they all want to go to war with Russia, they they've
[00:19:01] all they they attacked Belgrade, they attacked Iraq, I mean, they're kind of
[00:19:05] warmers. do they do it buse they're evil? Are they
[00:19:08] bad people? is is
[00:19:10] too bad uh ursela vonderlayan, mark
[00:19:14] ruta uh kayaklas, all these
[00:19:17] Europeans
[00:19:18] who who we're reading about, i can read you, i can pick up my open my laptop right now and you'd
[00:19:22] see, i could quote you like, we destroy the Russians, we got to go to war
[00:19:26] here, we got to go to war there, the you know they want to conquer Iran, I mean, they're
[00:19:30] like, what is it, what happened, they they, they are, they are
[00:19:33] evil,
[00:19:34] that they absolutely are evil, you know, it goes back to what, I was talking
[00:19:38] about with regards to how the Russians perceive Americans, they have
[00:19:42] a superpower that is somehow unique, maybe to Russians, that they're able to
[00:19:46] separate governments and people. We think of Russians as all
[00:19:49] one uh, but they the Russians can actually
[00:19:52] separate government and people, and the governments are all corrupt, they're all
[00:19:56] satanic cabals in their own in their own right. One the things I love about
[00:20:00] Russia is the dead of devotion and respect
[00:20:04] for religion and the churches. My wife and I went to Uglich this week.
[00:20:08] uh we took a boat there, it was fantastic and we spent most the time
[00:20:12] understanding
[00:20:13] the the history of Dimitri and the history of what happened and the old
[00:20:17] Russian folklore, but I'm not going to bore people with that, but
[00:20:20] all the people in that town of about 3000 people or so they all
[00:20:24] have devotion and
[00:20:26] they take care their churches and they respect them and
[00:20:30] you see them out there cleaning them and going to them, when did that
[00:20:34] when did Russia a place that used to be a communist?
[00:20:37] becomes so religious and is that one the things that attracts
[00:20:41] you now buse you're you're you're you're a christian
[00:20:43] practicing yeah no
[00:20:47] um i have a tremendous amount of respect for the the
[00:20:50] orthodox here and how they've rebuilt so many their churches, actually
[00:20:53] I'm uh working right now to help uh a orthodox priest with the
[00:20:57] rebuilding of one of his churches in and and just so our
[00:21:01] viewers understand during the soviet era lot of those churches were taken down and turned into something
[00:21:05] else because you they just didn't believe in that since the soviet era they've been
[00:21:09] going from town to town and rebuilding the churches, 30,00 churches under
[00:21:12] Putin's presidency, I think have been rebuilt, restored, renovated, and we're losing
[00:21:16] Georges in America, absolutely closing them, Catholic dioces
[00:21:19] is closing. all the time bitch, it's got to play golf, right? where is this
[00:21:23] story? right, that nobody knows this, if I didn't have you here
[00:21:27] talking about this, nobody would know, it's it's it's very sad.
[00:21:30] i i went out to Nishinovgrad region, which is
[00:21:34] divievo, amazing place, spiritual place, it's
[00:21:37] a chosen home the mother of God in Russia, and we're going to do
[00:21:41] documentary on this, and this is things that we as westerners need
[00:21:45] to understand as Christians that we need to be seeking
[00:21:49] friends.
[00:21:50] and understanding, why not? we we have the same god for crying out loud,
[00:21:54] can we not actually work on that? you were instrumental in bringing Candace Owens over
[00:21:58] here, and thank you for that, because it was, I had a wonderful
[00:22:01] opportunity to spend some time talking to her about lot of important things,
[00:22:05] but uh, what was your reason for that, and how did you
[00:22:09] connect? well, that's a very good question, um, so
[00:22:13] lot of people have asked me that question, really, the only thing is that I'm
[00:22:17] a traditional Catholic, and Candace. and her husband our traditional she
[00:22:21] talks about it every day on her show, i know sometimes too much, but
[00:22:24] anyway, no, people need to start realizing that that that people
[00:22:28] are genuine about their faith, that they were looking, yes she is, god bless her for
[00:22:32] that, absolutely, and george, her husband, and george, um, and so I
[00:22:36] wrote a letter, I had some mutual friends
[00:22:39] ironically in Australia that helped us get the letter to
[00:22:43] her, and she read it, and George called me back few days later after I
[00:22:47] sent it halfway around the world and come back, um, but again,
[00:22:51] I asked them a spiritual mission and that that was that
[00:22:55] was how that was that says, and you know what I love
[00:22:59] about her, there's one word that you're going to love bause you're buse you're
[00:23:02] Christian, fearless, it's important in life to have
[00:23:06] something that's bigger than yourself, and that's what gives us the courage to go throughout,
[00:23:10] yes, and I believe in that, and I believe in Candas in in that,
[00:23:14] she's fearless in what she says, the thing she has gone
[00:23:17] after and criticized and the thing that to a certain extent Tucker and some
[00:23:21] others are now doing, that's an act of fearlessness, yes, her
[00:23:25] coming to Russia and letting the world know she's in Russia, her appearing with Rick
[00:23:29] Sanchez on RT, I've got a million people who love me, oh my god, you're doing great,
[00:23:33] I love Rick Sanchez, and then our bookers will call them and say, hey, you want to come on,
[00:23:37] well, I love Rick, but you know, RT, and it's
[00:23:40] like, courage is when you do what you're not supposed to do, that's
[00:23:44] right, and that's what she did when she appeared on the air with us, because
[00:23:48] takes guts,
[00:23:49] it was a... great interview, it's a fantastic interview, i've loved watching
[00:23:53] it, and yes, she is absolutely fearless, she's real, we had a conversation just
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