RT — America Now 20260806 230000 UTC 511 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:01] We kick [00:00:02] of [00:00:02] of off the new season of Inland [00:00:04] of Visions from El Bruce, the Roof of Russia, where every [00:00:07] step [00:00:08] of and you takes your breath away, so join us as we take the [00:00:12] show to new [00:00:16] of heights. [00:00:20] of Here we go, 7 pm on the east coast, USA, I'm Ben [00:00:24] Swan, here are the stories we're following right now, I'd rather make [00:00:28] deal. because I don't want to kill people, I do not want to [00:00:32] kill people. First the latest on the conflict in Iran. President Trump says he [00:00:36] wants to stop the killing, meanwhile, new reports are painting a [00:00:39] complicated reality for the US, plus the world's [00:00:43] holiest city and a growing [00:00:45] in wave [00:00:45] of of attacks. Why are Christians suddenly saying they're no longer safe in [00:00:49] of Jerusalem? What should America [00:00:53] in be? And finally, political commentator Tucker Carlson [00:00:56] in unveils of his 10-point plan for America. Is he just [00:00:59] of brainstorming? ideas or testing the waters for a presidential run. On [00:01:03] this show we know you don't need more content, but you do need context. You know, [00:01:07] anyone can tell you what's happening in the news. Tonight we want to help you understand why [00:01:11] it's happening, how it's happening, how it affects you. This is [00:01:15] America [00:01:15] a [00:01:17] in now. [00:01:25] of And we begin with this. Tonight we are learning more about the claims that the US [00:01:29] is running low. on missiles in the Iran war, we're now hearing reports [00:01:33] of [00:01:33] of anger, explosive [00:01:35] in arguments and even some members [00:01:36] of the administration getting thrown under the bus. According to the Washington Post, [00:01:40] President Trump lost his temper and clashed directly with Secretary of Warte [00:01:43] Hegseth at Camp David last Friday over [00:01:46] of America's munitions stock pile. Trump believed the shortage issue had [00:01:50] been fixed before the war had started. Spoiler alert, [00:01:54] it hadn't. Now, let's sit with that phrase for just second. The commander-in-chief [00:01:58] thought a critical supply. problem had already been solved before [00:02:02] launching a massive military operation, but it hadn't [00:02:06] been, and according to the post sources, that shortage, particularly of [00:02:09] long-range [00:02:10] in guided missiles and air defense interceptors, [00:02:13] a is one [00:02:13] of the actual reasons Trump was held back from launching additional large [00:02:17] a scale strikes on Iran over the last few days. By the way, that [00:02:21] coincides with the reporting that we've been doing. Now, to be fair and [00:02:24] accurate here, we do not know with 100% [00:02:28] of certainty of that this confrontation. happened exactly as described. President [00:02:32] Trump has responded to those [00:02:33] of reports of with this post, saying quote, "the US has massive amounts [00:02:37] of munitions, especially of certain types. [00:02:40] of Additionally, of large amounts are being manufactured and shipped to the US as needed. Defense [00:02:44] companies are building the largest number of plants and factories in our country's [00:02:48] history. The leakers [00:02:50] in of these treasonous statements are being hunted down. Long-term [00:02:54] jail sentences will be sought. President [00:02:56] DJT, so basically the white house. is [00:03:00] calling it fake [00:03:02] of news, but here's the thing, whether or not that specific blow-up happened word for [00:03:06] word, the underlying numbers are not in dispute, and [00:03:10] honestly they are staggering. [00:03:12] of according to the post reporting, in just the first month of this war, the US fired off more [00:03:16] than 850 tomahawk cruise missiles, more than 1,000 [00:03:20] patriot and thad interceptor defense [00:03:23] of interceptors [00:03:24] of and more than 1,300 [00:03:26] of the army's tactical ballistic missiles, the same attaccam. [00:03:30] system that Ukraine has been begging us for. Now, according to one US official that was [00:03:34] cited in this report, that stock [00:03:36] of pile is now quote, drained to the extent that there's [00:03:39] basically nothing left, [00:03:42] of basically nothing [00:03:43] of left of in the first [00:03:45] of month. And here's the thing where this blame game gets really ugly, because according to that [00:03:49] report, Hegseff [00:03:50] a defended of of of himself during that confrontation by pointing the finger at his own [00:03:54] deputy, Steven Feinberg, accusing Feinberg of failing to [00:03:58] fully brief the president on the... actual shortages, so [00:04:01] of Hegsouth, remember he was one [00:04:05] of of the loudest early voices pushing for this war in the first place, reportedly convincing the president it would be a quick and [00:04:09] relatively easy win. It hasn't been, and now we're learning that [00:04:13] he might not even have told the commander and chief the true state [00:04:17] of our [00:04:17] of country's munition stock pile before pushing him into a war. That [00:04:21] means that our country went into this conflict uninformed, [00:04:25] and unformed means unprepared. Again, we cannot confirm [00:04:29] exactly. what happened here, but look at the evidence on the [00:04:32] ground, and it certainly looks that way. it's also interesting [00:04:35] of that Trump referred to those leakers, leakers aren't liars, they're [00:04:39] leaking information that is typically true. strikes, by the way, [00:04:43] have visibly lightened up in recent days, that's also worth noting, and report [00:04:47] after report after report, [00:04:49] of keeps of confirming the same thing, that we are running desperately [00:04:53] te low, and while that is all happening, this conflict [00:04:55] in is not slowing down, it's actually spreading. see, over in Yemen, the rebels launched a... [00:05:00] new escalation overnight attacking Saudi back government troops, at [00:05:03] of least 30 [00:05:08] of of government soldiers were killed, at least 50 wounded, it's being called the biggest escalation in Yemen in years, so while we're struggling to... [00:05:12] own missile [00:05:13] build our stock pile. Iran's proxy forces are opening up entirely new [00:05:17] fronts in the region. This is not what winning looks [00:05:20] like, and when it comes to actually ending this thing, listen to what the [00:05:24] president said just yesterday. Republic of Iran, we're doing, we're [00:05:28] not getting the hell [00:05:29] out. [00:05:32] I'd rather make deal, because I don't want to kill people. [00:05:36] I do not want to kill people, but at some point we're going [00:05:40] to, we had, we were, set for the biggest [00:05:43] attack of any attack, and we've hit him very hard [00:05:47] for the last few months. yeah, totally with the president, when he says we shouldn't [00:05:51] be killing more people, but it's interesting now, because if you listen to vice [00:05:55] president J.D. vance who actually has been very honest, honestly as [00:05:59] honest as anyone can be about how messy this whole thing has [00:06:02] gotten. it seems like we're making progress and it seems like we're [00:06:06] not, but the reality laura is that number one, the Iranians are [00:06:09] extraordinarily difficult people, number to they have a fractured [00:06:13] system, so there are people within their system who want the war to be over, there [00:06:17] are also people within their system who are crazy radicals who want the war to [00:06:21] continue, our job is to navigate through that and get the best [00:06:25] outcome for the American people, but for the President United States as well, and [00:06:29] and I do think that where we will ultimately land, it's going to be messy and it's going to [00:06:33] take some time to get there, think about those words, it's going to be messy, that's the [00:06:37] vice president the United States telling you that nobody actually knows how or when this [00:06:41] thing ends and mean on Iran's side, things seem to be moving in [00:06:44] the opposite direction toward progress, just not progress [00:06:48] that involves the US. Iran's deputy foreign minister today said that [00:06:52] maritime talks with oman over the straight of hormoz are in his words, [00:06:56] quote, on the verge of being finalized. Leak reporting [00:07:00] appears to show that it includes a multitude of things from banning US and [00:07:04] Israeli vessels from the straight of hormos, prohibiting Israeli linked [00:07:07] cargo and issuing heavy fines for any violators who will then [00:07:11] have to repay. "we are in talks with the [00:07:15] Iranians and I think there is a chance we may have deal today or [00:07:19] tomorrow uh to open the straight [00:07:23] and you move towards a more normalized position [00:07:27] in this conflict. That's great, all sounds very good, [00:07:31] but remember this is deal between Iran and Oman, not the United [00:07:35] States, we're not at the table, apparently, and yet it will directly impact [00:07:38] every single one of us, the price of food, the price of gas, this..." [00:07:42] what the president himself said in Las Vegas on Tuesday about those gas [00:07:45] prices? when gasoline, when oil goes down, [00:07:49] and it's going to go down very rapidly, and it's happening very soon, already happening if you [00:07:53] look, today it's $75 down to $75, it's [00:07:57] dropping, and we may have to send it up [00:08:00] again, we may have to, you know what happens when we send it up, [00:08:03] but we hope we don't have to, now the president didn't explain exactly [00:08:07] what he meant by that, kind of left it hanging there, now this is the [00:08:11] same president has been promising for weeks that oil prices would come down once [00:08:15] this war ended, now he's floating the idea that prices might have to [00:08:19] go back up. joining us now to discuss, we're joined tonight by peerson [00:08:23] sharp. he is the host the sharp report on one america news. [00:08:27] peerson, great to have you on, thanks for being here. thanks so much, ben, i [00:08:30] appreciate it. so let's talk a little bit about this this, first of all the report regarding [00:08:34] Hegseth and whether or not this is true. again, [00:08:37] i don't know the specifics, was there yelling? did somebody get thrown under the [00:08:40] proverbial bus, but i think think what does seem to [00:08:43] remain almost definite is the fact [00:08:47] that I think when Trump made calculations about going into this war, it [00:08:51] has not matched the ability we have to continue the war five, [00:08:54] six, seven months in, especially in terms the missiles, and [00:08:58] that creates a huge problem, it creates an embarrassment for the president, [00:09:02] honestly um, to not have informed him fully of what we could and could [00:09:05] not do, how do you view it? right, yeah, I would agree with that, President [00:09:09] Trump is first and foremost guy who likes to be in formed, he likes to [00:09:13] know what's going on and what's happening and where it's happening and why, and I [00:09:17] think to be caught off guard like this, to be surprised by some [00:09:20] information that's not only not good but makes him look bad is something [00:09:24] that's you know he hates that, that's that's a worst for President [00:09:28] Trump, so I think that he wants to get ahead [00:09:32] of this and maybe maybe deflect blame a little bit [00:09:35] to you know show that he knew what he was doing and this isn't true [00:09:39] and look we've got it all handle, we've got it under control, but "you [00:09:43] know the evidence is that we don't, um, Zelinsky was [00:09:46] asking for missiles and Trump had to turn him down, which I think, at the sever [00:09:50] conversation, but that's a good idea, um, these [00:09:54] missiles take a ton of effort to produce, these aren't something you can [00:09:58] just roll out the factory floor, um, they take years and years to ramp [00:10:02] up production and ability and to have spent them as fast as [00:10:06] we have, and to to be left a situation where we are [00:10:09] basically depleted, that's very telling." about the United States [00:10:13] at this point, and I think that has been, [00:10:16] I don't one the goals, but I think through the last couple [00:10:20] of years we've seen with Biden and the Democrats and everybody else, I think [00:10:24] to degrade. America's ability militarily has been one their goals, and [00:10:28] I think this is one the results we're seeing from that, [00:10:32] and Trump, I, I voted for Trump twice, three times, I vote for him again at this [00:10:35] point, but I think this is not his finest hour as far [00:10:39] as getting us into a situation that we were not prepared to be in in the first [00:10:43] place. Well, and and I, I agree with you, I think one the biggest problems that that [00:10:47] President Trump has right now, to your point is that he likes to know everything, every [00:10:51] president should, right? The idea that you would encourage him to step into a... [00:10:55] war um that almost now becomes an embarrassment because the Iranians are [00:10:59] emboldened by this when what they look at now they say look wait a minute [00:11:03] you you can't hit us anymore you can't hit us with those long-range missiles anymore you've [00:11:06] run out well now we're in bolden to say we're not going to involve you any the [00:11:10] talks we're going to go straight to oman we're going to set the rules for the [00:11:14] straight of hormoz and you guys can kick rocks because we know that you're a [00:11:18] position where you can't do anything about it today now that may not be true a year or [00:11:22] two years from now but know the [00:11:24] you one things Trump said in that true social post, that's very telling, [00:11:28] he he bragged about, well we're ramping up production, to your point, we talked [00:11:32] about this yesterday, it takes two years to create one patriot [00:11:35] missile, we're only creating at this point with the contractors we have contracts with a [00:11:39] thousand year, we burned through that supply a couple of [00:11:43] days, so the idea that that we are, don't worry [00:11:46] everyone, we got this under control, we're ramping up, I think the president has to put the best [00:11:50] face on it, he can, no question about it, but it's not, it's not an easy [00:11:54] thing. to cover right now, because we are stopped short of being able [00:11:58] to respond to the Iranians really any way at this [00:12:00] point. well, somewhat, yes, [00:12:04] yes, the patriot missile is definitely a problem for us, but [00:12:08] it's not our only weapon. we have lot of other options to respond to [00:12:12] this. mean, there are so many, [00:12:15] sad, but there are so many weapons we have to kill humans with that losing the [00:12:19] patriot missile does not stop us in our tracks. um, if we want this war [00:12:23] to continue, we'll find a way to... continue and that's that's [00:12:27] the problem is is this war could continue and you [00:12:31] know we we've been here for 150 days at this [00:12:34] point um we've only bombed them for 50 days though so that's [00:12:38] 100 days of back and forth negotiation and [00:12:41] you know trump promises to destroy them he's promised like 55 times I'm gonna [00:12:45] absolutely wipe out their civilization and then [00:12:48] you know they back down and then he doesn't and you know I think it's [00:12:52] clear at this point that they don't they don't want to to [00:12:56] have talks, they don't want to get this resolved, they want to delay, because they [00:12:59] delay it's going to destroy us in the midterms and they think they can probably wait [00:13:03] us out, get some democrats in power again and get the show up and [00:13:06] running, and i think that's their ultimate goal, and we have to find a way to stop them [00:13:10] from doing that. yeah, i want to touch on what you said [00:13:12] and i think it's true, you you said patriots aren't the only ways, attack of missiles, they [00:13:16] aren't the only way, ballistics aren't the only way, that's all true, long range missiles aren't the only [00:13:20] way, the problem is there's really only two paths beyond that, right, one path is [00:13:23] you go tactical nuke. you go higher, obviously you don't want to take that genie out the bottle [00:13:27] because you can't put it back in, and who knows what the response is becomes globally to [00:13:31] that, very messy, very dangerous. the other method which i [00:13:35] think you and i would agree should absolutely be off the [00:13:39] table is siting in ground troops, we don't need American men and women to die [00:13:43] for this, we certainly don't need them to die for the straight of hormos, um, [00:13:46] america doesn't even need the oil coming out there, so at this point i just i [00:13:50] think the best route for the president is to say, look, and he's great at [00:13:54] doing this. never, you never declare a defeat, you declare victory no matter [00:13:58] what, so let's declare a victory and leave, we don't need to be there, we don't need the [00:14:02] straight, if the Europeans are upset, they can work it out with Iran, come home and [00:14:06] let's focus here, I'll give you the last word, I completely [00:14:10] agree with that, [00:14:10] I don't think we should have been there in the first place, and then just just [00:14:13] imagine, just imagine if you will for second a [00:14:16] world where we had not gone to war in February, imagine where [00:14:20] we had not started this war, where we would be at today, the things that we could be focusing [00:14:24] on, policy, fixing the economy, fixing our broken border, [00:14:28] getting these illegals out of here by the millions, that's what we need to be focused [00:14:32] on, just imagine that world we could be living in, but that's not the [00:14:36] reality right now, and the problem is, yes, we should not [00:14:40] have been there in the first place, but now we [00:14:43] are, and there's a situation we can't just [00:14:46] walk away from, because it's a lot worse now than it was [00:14:50] before we started, and we caused that, so we [00:14:54] can't accept a cosmetic deal that calls Hormus [00:14:58] open while effectively recognizing Iranian [00:15:01] control. I think the objective should be to not [00:15:05] not to transform Iran, but to restore freedom of [00:15:09] navigation, that should be critical. Eliminate Iran's ability to [00:15:13] have nuclear weapons and I don't think that was issue to begin with, but clearly that's [00:15:17] a problem for Trump, he needs to make sure that that's something he can brag [00:15:20] about. We need to bring American forces home without [00:15:24] occupying. [00:15:37] or international shipping is threatened, that's that's clear, [00:15:41] but we also have to have an aggressive, negotiated exit, and I [00:15:45] think the most realistic path to achieving that might be [00:15:49] locking down on Israel, because they have [00:15:53] been sabotaging the peace efforts, we had the memorandum of [00:15:56] understanding going on, and while that was happening, Israel was bombing the [00:16:00] crap out of Lebanon, yes, and I think we underestimated how important that was to [00:16:04] Iran, and so I think locking them. down and [00:16:08] stopping them from continuing attacks on this region would be [00:16:12] maybe the primary step to achieving peace. do we have the [00:16:16] cahones to make that happen? i don't know. well, i will say [00:16:20] that everything you laid out of what we need to accomplish was accomplished [00:16:24] with the mou, and you're right, israel blew that up, so we you're absolutely right, we [00:16:27] got to change that, and that get that fly out the ointment. i think we go lot [00:16:31] further. piercing sharp, thanks so much for being on, great to have you on. [00:16:35] my pleasure. Well meanwile tonight, [00:16:39] attacks against Christians have almost doubled this year in Jerusalem, [00:16:43] nuns belonging to a Russian mission in the city are the latest to fall [00:16:47] victim. RT correspondent Charlotte Debinsky, she sat down with one of those nuns to [00:16:51] hear her story. Jewish youths spitting a monastery [00:16:55] in Jerusalem's old city. Then come the stones thrown in an [00:16:59] act of vandalism and intimidation. Scenes like this have become all too [00:17:03] commonplace. Rarely do victims speak out mainly due to [00:17:06] fear. but sister Elizabetha from the Russian [00:17:09] Ecclesiastical mission has found the courage. The sisters were walking [00:17:13] along the street, they were returning from night vigile back to their [00:17:17] mission and they realized that something wasn't quite [00:17:20] right. We finished the night service at the tomb [00:17:24] the Lord. We exited through the new gates. That's where we came across some [00:17:28] policeman. We smiled at them and they smiled right back at us and literally [00:17:32] after 200 meters on the crossroads near Notar Dame, we started hearing [00:17:36] rude screaming and swearing. and we tried not to look at them to avoid [00:17:40] aggression, they managed to get to this point, this [00:17:43] corner here, and it was then the attack really [00:17:47] began, but we had to stop at the intersection because there was red traffic [00:17:51] light, and while we were waiting they kept shouting and approaching us, but we [00:17:55] still tried not to look at them to avoid making make it worse, but then the [00:17:59] stone started flying, and thank god that the attack wasn't fatal, [00:18:02] stones started flying past us, so many them, two them hit me and [00:18:06] another one hit my. [00:18:11] Incidents like this are not isolated, figures coming out from [00:18:15] one Jewish organization, the religious freedom data center [00:18:18] show that this is a worrying trend, it says that [00:18:22] anti-christian attacks, incidents against [00:18:25] Christians have nearly dobled in the past three [00:18:29] months. Between April and June, 83 incidents were [00:18:32] recorded, that was up from 44 reports in the first three months of this [00:18:36] year, so what's... is the root cause of this violence coming from a [00:18:40] small but growing section of Israeli society? [00:18:44] everything now is very tense and very oriented [00:18:47] towards Jewish, unfortunately, I must say, [00:18:51] supremacy. there's a feeling, especially in the last three [00:18:54] years and since the Hamas attack on [00:18:58] Israel, there's a lot the [00:19:02] nervousness that turns people's mind [00:19:06] to see. black and white, it's either [00:19:09] Jewish, Israeli or enemies, the [00:19:13] rest the world. Christianity is only learned through the traumas [00:19:17] and the realistic traumas the Jewish people. The only [00:19:21] thing you'l know about Christians is that they persecuted us, they [00:19:25] shed our blood, [00:19:26] add to it, the government who is [00:19:30] really pushing towards a very halactic, [00:19:33] religious state, at least half of this country. [00:19:38] was taken captive and hostages by [00:19:42] this mindset, in one the most brutal attacks caught on camera this year [00:19:45] a none from another mission was slammed to the ground. that video [00:19:49] sparked international outrage. the assailt has been [00:19:53] charged, but most these crimes go [00:19:56] unpunished. the police closing the files that I [00:20:00] submit, it means not that the police couldn't catch them, they were not [00:20:04] interested enough in catching them, but they were not. said because the [00:20:08] authorities above told the police, don't bother about it. The RFDC [00:20:12] has volunteers across Israel ready to document potential anti-christian [00:20:16] harassment and attacks, but even Jiska is aware [00:20:20] that there are many incidents that still go unreported. The [00:20:23] details the attack on the sisters though reached the desk the Russian [00:20:27] ambassador. He's now raised it with the Israeli police and told our [00:20:30] action was being [00:20:32] taken. [00:20:38] as it has negative psychological impact on representatives the clurgy, [00:20:42] calls into question interreligious peace and harmony, the balance and [00:20:45] status quo in interreligious relations, and generally sends bad signals to [00:20:49] christians. about the supposed undesirability their presence here in the [00:20:53] holy land. I have the impression that the Israeli authorities, including the police, [00:20:57] realized the seriousness these incidents and are prepared to take measures to [00:21:00] address them. During our meeting, General Ketsuni informed us those teenagers [00:21:04] who were seen throwing stones at the sisters the Gordinski monastery on July [00:21:08] 23, were detained. While she's briavely spoken to RT, [00:21:12] sister Elizabetta admitted to us that the attack left her scared [00:21:16] to death. That very first night we were so scared, we were... [00:21:20] paralyzed with fear. [00:21:21] I can honestly say that for the first time I was afraid to go out alone the next [00:21:25] morning. I mean, we were never afraid before, never. Her faith may keep [00:21:29] her strong, but she is only human. Sister [00:21:32] Elizabeth's courage to speak out will hopefully now give others the [00:21:36] strength to follow in her footsteps. Charlotte [00:21:39] Dubinsky for RT in [00:21:41] Jerusalem. All right, let's talk about Tucker [00:21:45] Carlson now, because he is making headlines for laying out what he calls a [00:21:48] blueprint. where America's future touches on everything, from [00:21:52] immigration to manufacturing, to health, education, foreign [00:21:56] policy, the size of government. some were saying this as just normal [00:22:00] priority list for the country's future, but others believe maybe it's [00:22:03] a sign. remember blues clues, it's clue, the Tucker maybe [00:22:07] running for president. american Ells Gilissa durough takes a look [00:22:11] tonight on that question, and she talked to people right here in the streets of [00:22:14] Miami. We decided to talk to everyday [00:22:18] Americans to see how they feel about Hucker Carlson's 10-point plan: [00:22:22] government officials should be punished for lying to citizens and not [00:22:26] releasing the most classified documents including the JFK assassination and [00:22:29] 9/11. well that's [00:22:31] a tough one, i [00:22:32] mean it's like it all it it depends on you know [00:22:36] the circumstances or what it is that that they need to they need to [00:22:40] classif declassify to the people that's that's a tough one do you think that they [00:22:43] should like the Americans should know what happened like that those classified documents should [00:22:47] be released so? He says [00:22:51] halting immigration, ending benefits for undocumented [00:22:54] immigrants, making English the soul language. You agree with that? [00:22:58] Yeah, why ending benefits for undocumented incurence? [00:23:02] Absolutely, because there's enough legal ways to get into the United [00:23:06] States. I'm not against immigration, but [00:23:09] there's there's ways to do it, there's [00:23:12] there's many ways to get in the United States. You don't [00:23:16] have to jump the jump to fence. [00:23:20] so then he called for halting immigration, you don't agree [00:23:24] with that though? no, why is that? [00:23:28] america is the melting part the [00:23:30] world, [00:23:34] yeah, i why halt it, if they go through the legal [00:23:37] means, let them in. tucker [00:23:41] carlson claimed Israel pushed the us into the Iran war through [00:23:45] bribery or threats, while describing foreign lobbying, corporate control [00:23:49] of government and interest forms of [00:23:51] slavery? yeah, [00:23:55] that's that's just like finess tactic. [00:23:57] um, like we're being basically bribed [00:24:01] into war through coersion or threats that we should be sovereign country [00:24:05] and really not sell out to any foreign government. right, but [00:24:09] i was told a long time ago the US always sticks their nose in someone else's [00:24:13] business. so the same rules should apply to presidents, federal agents [00:24:17] and elites that they should be held accountable. do you agree with? that [00:24:20] yeah, you go. again, that was just jullissa reporting. so [00:24:24] we're following the story very closely with reaction across the board, so stay tuned to [00:24:28] America now for our next hour. we're going to dive deeper into Tucker Carlson's plan [00:24:32] for America, we'll go into detail about what exactly he's looking for and what makes [00:24:36] this so interesting. we're also talking with Natalie Morris, the host of Redacted, who [00:24:40] is close personal friend, what she says about whether or not Tucker is going to actually [00:24:44] run for president in 2028, all of that coming up in our next [00:24:47] hour, but for now, that is a... America now, for more stories, visit our [00:24:51] website RT.com and join us every night at 7:89 and 10 pm eastern. [00:24:55] Thanks for watching, have a great night, remember question [00:24:58] everything. [00:25:41] He's [00:25:42] been a journalist, a political commentator, a political [00:25:45] strategist, senior advisor to the Indian Ministry of [00:25:48] Information and Broadcast. sting Kanchan Gupta, welcome to India, Russia in the [00:25:52] world. Thank you. You're actually the first guest [00:25:56] on my podcast since the end the cockroach protest that [00:26:00] led to the resignation of India's. ation minister, [00:26:04] purely from an optics perspective, what kind of [00:26:08] message did these protests and out to the world? there [00:26:12] is no doubt that [00:26:15] the protest by itself [00:26:18] was not unexpected, but [00:26:22] the the manner in in which it [00:26:25] unfolded 20th July onwards, [00:26:29] that took the government by surprise because that kind of... [00:26:32] violence against the police, the [00:26:36] police using force to push back the [00:26:40] protesters, that made the situation [00:26:43] very sticky for government, and you [00:26:47] couldn't turn your eyes away, now you said which led to the [00:26:51] resignation the education minister, technically the [00:26:55] education minister resigned to [00:26:58] ensure that the... [00:27:02] situation wouldn't get worse, and if you read his [00:27:06] resignation letter, he gives the reasons why he [00:27:09] resigned, so I wouldn't say that it's [00:27:13] because these people held a gun to the government's head [00:27:17] that the education minister [00:27:19] resigned, but whatever [00:27:22] be the interpretation, the fact [00:27:26] is that there was a protest and [00:27:30] for the first time there was was a [00:27:33] glimpse into the world view the [00:27:36] mindscape of what i call the [00:27:40] gen z generation, [00:27:43] so what what do these kids think about, how do [00:27:47] they look at life, what are their many [00:27:49] angsts, what do they, what do they [00:27:53] worry about, and what angers [00:27:56] them, perhaps none of [00:27:59] us, whether in government or not in government, we [00:28:02] never looked at them very closely. you really want to [00:28:06] ask you, the genzy protest in India, do you think that there were any [00:28:10] parallels with what had happened say a Bangladesh or [00:28:14] Nepal? no, no, I will very quickly explain to you why. our [00:28:18] politics has been of different variety. our [00:28:22] politics has been of accomodative nature. our [00:28:25] politicians are very sharp. don't [00:28:29] forget that mohandas Gandhi. was one the [00:28:33] sharpest politicians India has produced, back their mind, they [00:28:37] always have the more serious and the more informed among [00:28:41] them, they have Gandhi in their back in the back their minds, they know when [00:28:45] to step forward, they know when to stand still and they know when to step [00:28:48] back. Number two, we have very layered society, [00:28:52] so a layered society like us, that kind of [00:28:56] change doesn't happen, our young are [00:29:00] politically too diverse. "they are [00:29:03] culturally too diverse, [00:29:06] they are linguistically too [00:29:09] diverse, and definitely there is no single [00:29:13] religion holding them together, but what is [00:29:17] there in common to those who believe in this, is [00:29:20] the civilizational inheritance which they [00:29:24] have, and that is of being a people [00:29:28] who are accommodative, who are inclusive [00:29:32] and..." [00:29:32] are not exclusionary, okay, so whether you see in [00:29:35] Bangladesh, Nepal, Sri Lanka, wherever this has [00:29:39] happened, the Arab countries, the so-called arab spring, it is [00:29:42] because the the exclusionism the [00:29:46] elite the ruling classes, it is [00:29:50] because the in your face corruption, even [00:29:54] corruption in India is very layered, so it's a [00:29:58] different thing, I mean right, so it it won't work over here, [00:30:01] what about? the media coverage the cockroach genzi [00:30:05] protest in India, on one hand, the local media was being [00:30:09] criticized for being too soft, the western media for being [00:30:13] too celebratory, what is your take? well, there was [00:30:17] nothing called a local media. i find it [00:30:20] aborent that there should have been an [00:30:24] attempt to malign mainstream media [00:30:28] in such a gross manner as we saw happening over there [00:30:32] at you mean the journalists getting hackled? journalists [00:30:35] getting hackled, then this whole use the term godi [00:30:39] media. now such terms were never hurled at the media [00:30:42] earlier, but you don't think the media is it fault here? no, [00:30:46] listen, mean i i may agree with [00:30:49] the editorial policy of media house, i [00:30:53] may disagree with it, i may agree with individuals i may [00:30:57] disagree with them, but i would...