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[00:00:00] "it won't work over here. what about the media
[00:00:03] coverage
[00:00:04] of the cockroach genzi protest in India? on one hand, the local
[00:00:08] media was being criticized for being too soft, the western
[00:00:12] media for being too
[00:00:14] of celebratory. what is your take? well, there was nothing called
[00:00:17] a local media. i find it aborent
[00:00:21] that there should have been an
[00:00:24] in attempt to malign mainstream media
[00:00:28] in such a gross manner." as we saw happening over there
[00:00:32] at janta manta, you mean the journalist getting hackled, journalists getting
[00:00:36] hackled, then this whole use
[00:00:38] of the term godi media, now such terms were never hurled at the
[00:00:42] media earlier, but you don't think the media is it fault here,
[00:00:46] no, listen, mean i i may agree
[00:00:48] of with the editorial policy
[00:00:52] of of media house, i may disagree with it, i may
[00:00:55] of agree with individuals, i may disagree with them, but i
[00:00:59] would... ever go to the
[00:01:02] a extent of labeling anybody godhi
[00:01:05] or like for instance i never use the term
[00:01:09] in anti-national because i don't think i have
[00:01:13] enough intelligence to judge someone's
[00:01:17] nationalist or non-nationalist credentials so
[00:01:21] this kind of
[00:01:23] of labelling and this kind of demonizing is bad. the
[00:01:27] so-called digital media took over. the
[00:01:30] space over there, television comes under some
[00:01:34] amount of accountability, print definitely comes under lot of
[00:01:38] accountability, and but the digital media,
[00:01:41] of there is no accountability at all, and that I think
[00:01:45] is not a very happy situation, and I am okay with
[00:01:50] of editorial perceptions or editorial interpretations, I am even
[00:01:54] okay with agenda, but so long as that agenda is
[00:01:58] known to be agenda and... not as some great journalism
[00:02:02] as it is being made out to be. what about the western media's
[00:02:05] coverage
[00:02:06] of these protes? it's been gastly as usual.
[00:02:10] someone today actually pointed
[00:02:13] of out to that the New York
[00:02:17] de Times has till now carried only one story
[00:02:20] on the enormous protests happening in Pakistan
[00:02:24] occupied Kashmir
[00:02:26] of where more than 40
[00:02:27] of protesters have been killed by the... funny army and they have
[00:02:31] carried 16 stories till now on the
[00:02:35] jantar mantar protest various aspects of it of course
[00:02:39] so this is something which always intrigues
[00:02:42] me that there is some
[00:02:46] kind of a system in place which
[00:02:50] rewards the the
[00:02:53] monsterization of India and we saw this happening
[00:02:57] during the second phase of covid if you remember Yeah,
[00:03:03] of when that we burn our dead is not some
[00:03:06] great
[00:03:08] of secret which was kept locked away from the world all these years, only if you
[00:03:11] don't know India enough, you
[00:03:15] a would, dead, so there
[00:03:19] of were actually drone videos of of bodies being burned that were cited as how
[00:03:22] gustly the situation is that you have to burn and
[00:03:26] get rid of bodies and all these people. then
[00:03:30] rewarded with the police, but that's how it rolls, I
[00:03:34] mean, you can get away with it in India, but you
[00:03:37] cannot, there's a price to be paid, but is that India's
[00:03:41] fault, why, why would this happen
[00:03:44] in India, meaning the covid example you
[00:03:47] were giving, people were dying all over the world,
[00:03:50] but the western media, the western
[00:03:54] a journalist, they would just hop around hospitals
[00:03:57] inside hospitals, Indian hospitals.
[00:04:00] of there is there's a disbalance between the way they look at the
[00:04:04] world like they wouldn't ever
[00:04:07] show photos
[00:04:10] of their dead, they they could wouldn't even mention that
[00:04:13] they have run out of space to bury their dead, at least we
[00:04:17] were burning our dead and they didn't have space to
[00:04:20] in bury their dead and they were just stacking them up in meat
[00:04:24] of trucks, mean how is it that we were worse off?
[00:04:28] now having said that, "this is not
[00:04:31] something which is entirely new
[00:04:35] of and this is India has faced this problem again and
[00:04:38] again, India faced this problem with the Guardian,
[00:04:42] India faced this problem with the
[00:04:45] of BBC, BBC had to be shut down over here, the guardian
[00:04:48] correspondent was frock marched to what was then
[00:04:52] Sabdat Jang airport and put on the first flight
[00:04:55] of out, I mean
[00:04:56] you know you just could not deal with them because they were so..."
[00:05:00] intransigent in their operations over here. Why
[00:05:04] does
[00:05:04] the western media hate India? You know, during the cold
[00:05:07] war, new information order
[00:05:11] emerged in the world. and all these media
[00:05:14] houses, whether they were public
[00:05:18] broadcasters or or private media, they
[00:05:21] became instruments of
[00:05:24] governments and all these
[00:05:27] institutions which were earlier set up,
[00:05:30] I mean DW was set up to cater to
[00:05:33] Germans, not to Indians, similarly BBC was
[00:05:37] meant for Britain and it was meant for
[00:05:41] British. subjects or British
[00:05:44] citizens abroad, but during the cold
[00:05:48] war they chose to become instruments of state
[00:05:52] policy and
[00:05:54] their audience therefore changed and from domestic it became
[00:05:57] international, and now of course
[00:06:01] the story goes that because the
[00:06:05] domestic demand and audience and market is shrinking,
[00:06:09] then you they need new ones, money is... tide so
[00:06:13] they are looking at India as a market etc etc, but
[00:06:17] that's really that's i mean it's fine with me,
[00:06:21] mean i don't care, but
[00:06:23] i think at some point foreign media needs to also
[00:06:26] revisit its own
[00:06:29] ethical standards,
[00:06:33] it's i won't say morals but at least ethical standards and
[00:06:37] how each day they violate
[00:06:40] them and how it's ultimately hurts their
[00:06:43] own credibility, even back home, nobody takes the New York Times
[00:06:47] seriously, nobody takes BBC seriously,
[00:06:51] nobody takes the Washington post seriously, look at where are these
[00:06:54] papers, we have RT as and alt media, now
[00:06:58] I have a question there, India's long complain
[00:07:02] about the coverage it gets in in the western
[00:07:06] media, so the UK
[00:07:10] has a BBC, Russia has RT,
[00:07:13] Australia has ABC. Why
[00:07:17] doesn't India have a platform? Of course there's dd, but
[00:07:21] not to level where India's voice can be heard a
[00:07:25] global stage. Dordarshan Prasad
[00:07:29] Bharti is an autonomous body to be functioning its
[00:07:32] own, but the fact that it is
[00:07:36] a state broadcaster remains a
[00:07:40] reality. In R idea or concept of a
[00:07:44] state broadcaster, the purposes of state
[00:07:48] broadcasting, the ideal audience for state
[00:07:51] broadcasting and how to
[00:07:54] use these instruments remain
[00:07:57] defined in a certain manner, those
[00:08:01] definitions are the traditional conservative
[00:08:04] definitions of of any state
[00:08:08] broadcaster, but as I said during the cold
[00:08:11] war, "government started using their state
[00:08:14] broadcasters, all these people then became a
[00:08:18] part the cold war
[00:08:22] information system, and therefore their audience
[00:08:25] changed from the local to the
[00:08:28] foreign, and increasingly they started focusing
[00:08:32] on that because there was greater
[00:08:35] individual interest in that, it was much more
[00:08:39] fun going and doing a story on..." on the
[00:08:43] Vatican City by by by
[00:08:47] placing condomes over there and saying see this is the
[00:08:50] real and then you get found out and you have egg on your face but
[00:08:54] nothing happens. I don't think Doordarshan would ever want to do
[00:08:58] it, should it be doing it? I think yes, Doordarshan
[00:09:02] and All India Radio should should
[00:09:05] break free of those traditions. when operation
[00:09:09] Sindhur happened, India had to send delegations to the... parts the
[00:09:13] world to just convey what India's
[00:09:16] perspective and point of view was, if there was DD around the world and
[00:09:20] if people could just switch on and heard India's
[00:09:23] perspective, would that not make things like much
[00:09:27] easier? yes, but also no. my
[00:09:31] journey begins in 1982 and i have seen the
[00:09:35] fashioning and refashioning the world information order
[00:09:39] on how the white west controls the information. nation
[00:09:42] order and there is
[00:09:45] inbuilt bias in it, a
[00:09:49] white man's paper will always carry
[00:09:53] greater cloud than a black man's paper or a
[00:09:57] brown man's paper, that's a fact even today,
[00:10:00] even today it would carry,
[00:10:03] it is a reality, that's my question, why doesn't India do
[00:10:06] something, I think it is happening now
[00:10:10] and I think... "younger
[00:10:13] journalists are now, they feel more confident,
[00:10:17] maybe my generation was not that confident of of being
[00:10:21] able to take them all, but today they..." are you
[00:10:25] think the gensies will take them on? no, no, not even genzies,
[00:10:29] mean, you are
[00:10:32] there, everything doesn't have to devolve to
[00:10:36] genzy to genz, i get it, mean they will at best be
[00:10:39] reinventing the wheel, but the wheel is being invented right
[00:10:43] now, you the kind
[00:10:47] of stuff which you are doing, the kind of
[00:10:51] stuff which other journalists are doing,
[00:10:55] and I think young women have
[00:10:59] shown greater courage in doing
[00:11:02] this, but what about the other side, journalists in India, they
[00:11:06] face UAPA, youtubers have faced
[00:11:10] Firs, then there are x accounts being withheld on government
[00:11:14] orders, do you think that criticism the government
[00:11:18] is increasingly being mistaken for being
[00:11:21] anti-national? This is a common...
[00:11:25] perception:
[00:11:29] i don't think you can show me buring the odd
[00:11:33] case where the union
[00:11:37] government, the central government has
[00:11:41] actually filed cases against
[00:11:43] journalists,
[00:11:45] whether under any part the law,
[00:11:49] everybody says that, oh there is a
[00:11:53] squeeze on free. press there is a squeeze
[00:11:56] on free speech that that the press
[00:12:00] is being throttled, expression is
[00:12:04] being throttled, speech is being throttled, and you are
[00:12:08] saying all that sitting here in Delhi or
[00:12:11] in India, fearlessly, without any fear
[00:12:15] of any government action
[00:12:19] for saying this, man, you don't know what it
[00:12:22] meant, what what censorship me? means under Indian
[00:12:26] law, yeah, under Indian law, under Indian
[00:12:30] constitution, what censorship really means slight,
[00:12:33] and my generation remembers it from the emergency
[00:12:37] years. what do you think the increasing presence of RT in
[00:12:41] the region? do you think it balances the western
[00:12:44] media coverage of south asia to a certain
[00:12:47] extent? first of all,
[00:12:50] i think RT should drop the use the term south
[00:12:53] asia, that is. purely a state department
[00:12:56] coinage, us state department coinage, you should not
[00:13:00] use, what should RT use then? indian subcontinent or whatever,
[00:13:04] india, pakistan, bangladesh or whatever, but not the south asia
[00:13:08] bunk, while RT should do what
[00:13:10] is right in terms of
[00:13:14] journalistic ethics and values, i think so long as
[00:13:18] you avoid driving agenda, it
[00:13:22] should it should go, mean and and don't fall into this
[00:13:26] trap, white west media has this preachy
[00:13:30] pontificating attitude, he doesn't
[00:13:33] do that, so we know the best on how to run a democracy,
[00:13:37] we know how best to do this, we know how best to do that,
[00:13:41] i think this is hate
[00:13:43] that being preached
[00:13:46] to, you and i are this
[00:13:50] is so we don't like being preached to, so i
[00:13:54] think that would hold. for the masses, so you should
[00:13:57] avoid that. Narendra Modi's instagram video was taken down
[00:14:01] after which India summund representatives of meta, of
[00:14:05] X, of Snapchat, what is going any big tech
[00:14:09] platform, whether it is YouTube, whether it is
[00:14:12] Facebook, Instagram,
[00:14:16] whatever, they enjoy what is
[00:14:20] called safe harbor protection, that means they are
[00:14:23] protected from penal
[00:14:25] action for anything that
[00:14:29] appears on their platform,
[00:14:32] provided they have not engineered
[00:14:36] it, provided they have no role in it.
[00:14:39] okay, now when the platform intervenes in this
[00:14:43] manner, this is intervention a country's
[00:14:46] political process and it is
[00:14:50] unacceptable, and that is why these platforms were
[00:14:53] summoned by the parliamentary standing committee which is
[00:14:57] headed by Nishikant Dube and I think all them came
[00:15:01] in, they trouped in and they said they were very sorry that this
[00:15:04] happened, it won't happen again etc. but rightly they have been
[00:15:07] told sorry, I mean this is violation the safe harbor
[00:15:11] cluse in in the IT act, you can't just
[00:15:15] do it and say sorry, and and now I think they have
[00:15:18] said that Mark Zuckerberg has to has to offer
[00:15:22] apology, which I think he owes...
[00:15:25] to the prime minister, exactly, Nishikant Dube saying that Mark
[00:15:28] Zakkaberg was apology and this was attempt to
[00:15:32] discredit India, where is this coming from? See, you have
[00:15:36] to understand, where it's coming from, the
[00:15:40] whole question is, what prevails? does the
[00:15:43] law, sovereign law and sovereign rules of
[00:15:47] India prevail, or do the boardroom
[00:15:51] rules these big tech companies prevail, so
[00:15:55] just because Facebook decides that this is acceptable
[00:15:59] or this is not acceptable, does it mean that the government of
[00:16:02] India must also accept it? no, okay, it it has to be the
[00:16:06] other way round. very quick point over here which I would like to
[00:16:10] make: lot of people, including sadly Indians, think that
[00:16:14] we have
[00:16:16] guaranteed absolute
[00:16:19] free speech in this country, we don't,
[00:16:23] we don't have free speech, what we have is
[00:16:27] conditional speech, people who talk about
[00:16:29] constitutionalism, they wave a copy the
[00:16:33] constitution and say, "free speech is guaranteed here, please read it."
[00:16:37] my foot, you haven't read it. the first constitution amendment in
[00:16:41] this country was done in the most unconstitutional
[00:16:44] manner, it was done by the constituent assembly, not
[00:16:48] even by an elected parliament, and it changed
[00:16:52] Ambedkar's clause of free speech into conditional
[00:16:55] speech. you're a senior advisor to the Indian ministry of information and
[00:16:59] broadcasting. we recently saw the Indian prime minister
[00:17:03] take to Instagram, he recorded that selfie video since
[00:17:07] the... and we've seen parliamentarians talk in the genzy
[00:17:10] lingo, what is going on? is
[00:17:14] is there are two parts to it: one is that you will
[00:17:18] find many them trying to ape the
[00:17:22] gensy, which find comical, mean i
[00:17:26] cannot become a part the genzy crowd, i can i
[00:17:30] can communicate with them, i can be with them, but i cannot be
[00:17:33] them, of course okay, that's that's an impossibility.
[00:17:38] then there are politicians who think that
[00:17:40] it is good politics to connect with them and we
[00:17:44] have to connect with them on their terms, i cannot expect them
[00:17:48] to connect with me on my terms, so
[00:17:52] then therefore you have the prime minister shooting his own videos,
[00:17:56] putting it out, i don't know whether he puts it out also, but he definitely shoots
[00:18:00] it, i know it for fact, he as a smart politician he realizes
[00:18:04] that he needs to connect with them and he is that an
[00:18:07] advantage, look man, mean in
[00:18:09] 2013 he was using google to
[00:18:13] hold, what were they called, now google meets
[00:18:17] or something, so he was doing all this in
[00:18:20] 2011, 2012,
[00:18:23] 2013 when jenzi was not even in
[00:18:27] its tappers, so let's not,
[00:18:31] let's not mock him for it, by
[00:18:34] 2029, the next general election elections in
[00:18:38] India, nearly 30% the voters will
[00:18:41] be jenzies, isn't Indian politics
[00:18:45] bound to change because of that, then
[00:18:48] 65% of India's population was
[00:18:52] 65 or 68% was 35 and below, so we are
[00:18:55] talking of
[00:18:56] a of demographic profile which was never
[00:18:59] old, so if if of that
[00:19:03] 68%, say half percentage points at
[00:19:06] Gen then it's a very good, it's I think it's very good that this
[00:19:10] churn is happening, that it brings with it a certain
[00:19:14] freshness, every
[00:19:16] republic
[00:19:19] needs
[00:19:21] regeneration, because
[00:19:23] otherwise republics decay, I mean history tells
[00:19:27] us that, so that the best way of
[00:19:30] regenerating republic of
[00:19:33] reaffirming nationhood, of...
[00:19:37] claiming national identity
[00:19:41] is to have new generations of
[00:19:44] people who who are open to change, who
[00:19:48] think differently, so I would be very happy with it. Vladhimir
[00:19:52] Putin is coming to Delhi in September for the brick summit and this is
[00:19:56] going to be his second visit in less than year. Each time
[00:20:00] Mr. Modi and Mr. Puzan are together, their
[00:20:03] photographed together, the western media has... a
[00:20:07] meltdown, why? again, you have to see it,
[00:20:11] because the cold war is over and done with,
[00:20:15] but that's what we think, but
[00:20:19] for them the cold war is still on, so you are
[00:20:22] either with us or you are against us, this kind of a stark
[00:20:26] choice which they insist on
[00:20:29] exercising,
[00:20:30] you know, for instance, the coverage the ukrainian
[00:20:34] war, not going into the right. or
[00:20:37] wrongs of it, but the Russia Ukraine conflict or
[00:20:41] Ukraine Russia conflict, whichever way you want to phrase it is,
[00:20:45] is not a black and white story as the western media would
[00:20:49] insist it. is and again there you are either with
[00:20:53] us or
[00:20:53] you are with Russia, that kind of choice making, I
[00:20:57] don't think works anymore, and lot of people may not
[00:21:01] want to talk about it, they may not want to get entangled
[00:21:04] with in long debates and discussions over
[00:21:08] it, but just like
[00:21:10] you know with China, the world has learned that it's best not to engage
[00:21:14] a unending debate where you could be debating it till the cows
[00:21:18] come home ' 'It's best to deal with China the
[00:21:22] way it is, and you figure out your own way, your own
[00:21:25] devices to deal with China. So similarly,
[00:21:28] you know, the world will figure out a way and its own
[00:21:32] devices to deal with the west,
[00:21:35] and the white west media at some point
[00:21:39] or the other will find its influence declining. My
[00:21:42] last question, both India and Russia, they speak
[00:21:46] of building a multipolar world, what role?' an
[00:21:50] information and broadcasting play in turning that
[00:21:54] vision into reality? think a lot of
[00:21:57] countries now believe a multipolar
[00:22:00] world and the south definitely
[00:22:04] believes in a multipolar world, and
[00:22:08] this belief has only gained strength and
[00:22:11] ground after
[00:22:14] the covid
[00:22:17] experience when when..." "there was a lot
[00:22:21] of extreme bias and and and supply
[00:22:24] chains broke down even
[00:22:27] multilateralism is now a
[00:22:30] discount, so what you have instead are
[00:22:34] not grand global treaties, but working
[00:22:38] arrangements between some countries, so
[00:22:42] that is going to gain ground, and the more
[00:22:46] ground it gains, the stronger will be..."
[00:22:51] the global demand for a
[00:22:54] multilateral world and it will make it that much more
[00:22:57] possible. Kanchan Gupta, what a wonderful conversation I've
[00:23:01] had with you. Thank you very much for your time,
[00:23:03] pleasure.
[00:23:37] I'll look forward to talking to you all, that technology
[00:23:41] should work for people, robot must
[00:23:44] obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders with
[00:23:48] conflict with the first law. show your identification, we should be very careful about
[00:23:52] artificial intelligence, the point obviously is to
[00:23:56] create trust - rather than
[00:23:58] fear. i would like to take on
[00:24:02] various jobs, mean with artificial intelligence we are summoning the
[00:24:04] demon.
[00:24:12] robot must protect its own existence as long
[00:24:14] existence.
[00:25:34] Als Teil der Sanktionen gegen Russland gehen die westlichen Länder gegen Russische
[00:25:37] Auslandsender
[00:25:38] vor.
[00:25:45] On est en France quoi c'est pas
[00:25:46] possible.
[00:25:51] We will ban in the European Union the Kremlin's
[00:25:55] media machine. The state owned Russia
[00:25:57] today. Even our video agency,
[00:26:01] roughly all. and on
[00:26:03] youtube et merci à vous
[00:26:07] tous pour votre fidélité et votre
[00:26:08] soutien,
[00:26:26] it's davu all over again, the mou ending the Iran
[00:26:29] war is tatters at the NATO media. In Ankara, peace
[00:26:33] with Russia was not on the agenda. Instead, the now familiar
[00:26:37] agreement Incapable approach has overwhelming
[00:26:41] sway. It is obvious the West is unable to think
[00:26:44] strategically. What if
[00:26:48] everything you think you know is only part the story. Bold
[00:26:52] economic moves, high stakes battles on the world stage,
[00:26:56] war and peace, the very future of America.
[00:27:00] The headlines are loud, the debate. points are fierce,
[00:27:04] now it's time for closer look, know the policy, understand the
[00:27:08] impact, America first, the Scotty
[00:27:10] Navy.
[00:28:02] ahí sí me tiraron mis cosas por la
[00:28:05] basura,
[00:28:11] enite, cuánto 60 y 60, la situación es
[00:28:15] difícil
[00:28:17] también va, desarrollamos un un operativo lo largo la franja
[00:28:21] fronteriza para inhibir pues comisión
[00:28:23] de delitos, tráfico estupefacientes, tráfico de
[00:28:25] personas, cartels has the control the
[00:28:29] borders, me tuve que meter prácticamente. a
[00:28:33] situaciones ilícitas, tijuana, cualquier esquina está lleno
[00:28:37] de postes donde hay personas
[00:28:38] desaparecidas.
[00:28:48] ban territories, let's go,
[00:28:52] krinia here in Iran, we've traveled
[00:28:55] to lugan, and it's happening right here in China. It's
[00:28:59] actually quite a beautiful day here.
[00:29:03] ignored stories, i'm listening. thank you so
[00:29:07] much, so much, really, god bless you, thanks for having me, such beautiful,
[00:29:10] forbidden questions, i'm asking them, what's a free country? are
[00:29:14] you worried, are you scared? we look, are you dictator? there's
[00:29:18] a buzz out there that you would make a great next president the united
[00:29:22] states, we will show you what they
[00:29:32] our tv. in the United States and see, I did not know that.
[00:29:35] That's the Sanchez effect. tens of millions are now
[00:29:39] watching, and we're just getting
[00:29:41] started.
[00:29:49] We kick off the new season of Inland Visions from El Bruce,
[00:29:53] the roof of Russia, where every step and view takes your breath
[00:29:57] away, so join us as we take the show to new
[00:30:00] heights.
[00:30:19] It is now 8 pm
[00:30:20] here in the USA, I'm Ben Swan, here are the stories we're following tonight, when
[00:30:24] the best things in your society from the founding documents to the architecture or all things
[00:30:28] made before your grandparents were born, it's
[00:30:31] problem first. Carlson drops what are some are calling
[00:30:34] a blueprint for the presidency. We'll break it
[00:30:37] down. Plus your personal data could be costing you
[00:30:41] money tonight. Find out how AI may be deciding what you pay before
[00:30:45] you buy. And finally, you paid more at the checkout. Now some of
[00:30:49] America's largest corporations may be getting your money back in
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