RT — Lumumbas Africa 20260808 123000 UTC 247 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] the dot and to the eye were [00:00:03] controlled from Paris and at [00:00:07] that time Thomas Sankara and Blace [00:00:10] Campaure who was then his comrad in [00:00:13] arms represented [00:00:16] a crop of young people who believed that the [00:00:20] resources [00:00:21] of their country ought to be utilized for the benefit [00:00:24] of the people. The first thing they did was to change the [00:00:28] manner in which government was to be run and [00:00:32] there are number of pillars which informed the [00:00:35] administration of Thomas Ankara number [00:00:39] one that we must [00:00:41] in deal with imperialism, we must [00:00:45] ensure that the imperialist no longer control our [00:00:48] of affairs, number two, that we must restore [00:00:52] our dignity and our culture, number [00:00:56] three, that we must ensure our mineral [00:01:00] and our resources are used for the benefit [00:01:03] of the people, that we must feed [00:01:06] ourselves, that we must liberate [00:01:09] ourselves from the debts which have been imposed on us [00:01:13] and that we must do [00:01:15] in this from a pan-african perspective, and that we [00:01:19] must do this from a standpoint of dignity. [00:01:22] therefore, one [00:01:23] of the things that they did was to change the name [00:01:28] in of the country from upper volta to burkinafaso. which [00:01:31] in means the land [00:01:32] of the upright men or the land [00:01:35] of the upright people, that was [00:01:39] unprecedented, unprecedented [00:01:42] in a country where street names still [00:01:45] bore the names of French generals and [00:01:49] French characters, to change the name [00:01:51] of the country was affront to the imperial power, [00:01:55] throughout his life as a president, Thomas Sankara [00:01:59] always had: the chance of snowball in hell, his [00:02:02] life was always under threat and he knew it, [00:02:06] and immediately, in order to debank the [00:02:10] imperialist, he said we must change our governance system, [00:02:14] what must we do in that regard? we eliminate the [00:02:17] of political party, because the political parties were the conduits [00:02:21] via which the imperialist were controlling the agenda [00:02:24] of their country, so political parties were [00:02:27] eliminated, once they were eliminated [00:02:31] power was organized on the basis of [00:02:35] military defense committees, and this commities [00:02:38] were designed in such manner that they [00:02:42] cascaded from the capital in [00:02:45] Wagaadugu, from places like Bobo di Alaso, [00:02:49] way up to the villages and of course the military [00:02:53] heads had quite some power because Thomas Sankara took the [00:02:57] view that discipline was an... [00:03:00] essential ingredient of ensuring that things were [00:03:04] done properly. once that had been done, he also said [00:03:08] that politicians must not be apart from the [00:03:11] people and they must not leave in luxury. he reduced [00:03:15] the salaries of military officers who are now serving in [00:03:19] these offices and said that people must use [00:03:23] only such cars as are necessary. luxury [00:03:27] was eliminated, his famous statement, is, it is [00:03:31] either champagne for the few or [00:03:34] water for all, and I think that remains an [00:03:38] iconic statement that we must create an environment [00:03:42] where the [00:03:43] na majority [00:03:43] of the people are living [00:03:46] in a dignified manner. The other thing that it did [00:03:49] was to begin to deal with the [00:03:51] of question of self-sufficiency, and [00:03:54] agriculture, sugam, tomatoes and other [00:03:58] things, people are involved. informing with a view [00:04:02] to ensuring that they were self-sufficient and they may not [00:04:06] have been between the five 1900 and [00:04:10] 1983 and [00:04:11] of [00:04:12] of 1987, but it is documented that work was done [00:04:16] in a massive manner and that food [00:04:20] sufficiency was almost realized [00:04:23] during the revolution of thomas andkara, so [00:04:27] there was agrarian revolution. [00:04:30] addition and tied to the agrarian revolution was the [00:04:33] environment, the desertification which threatens and continues to [00:04:37] threaten burkinafaso and countries in the sahil, he [00:04:41] said there must be massive tree planting, and those [00:04:45] who have heard the advantage of visiting burkinafaso will see the [00:04:49] attempt that were made to ensure that trees were [00:04:52] planted and that rivers to the few [00:04:55] of them were therefore not depleted, so the [00:04:58] agrarian with the [00:05:01] in environmental revolution is one [00:05:03] of the things that stands out during this particular [00:05:06] period of 1983 to [00:05:09] 1987. The other. thing that they did was [00:05:13] in the area of education, because they realized and they [00:05:17] took the view that in order to move the country to the next [00:05:21] level, then levels of illiteracy had to be [00:05:24] improved and arrangements were made to ensure [00:05:27] that public education, particularly at the [00:05:31] primary level or the lower level was [00:05:35] publicly financed. in Africa we are found of talking [00:05:38] about something called free education, there is nothing like that. [00:05:42] "all education is publicly financed and this [00:05:46] is what is said must be done and the levels [00:05:50] of literacy rose a [00:05:54] very dramatic manner in burkinafaso during this [00:05:58] short period. the other revolution was in the area of [00:06:02] health, particularly primary health. this is [00:06:06] area that is in the tropical environment and very [00:06:09] many problems exist." and still do [00:06:13] exist, particularly in terms of primary health, in [00:06:17] terms of vaccination, in terms of access to medical [00:06:21] facilities, and efforts were made to ensure that [00:06:25] the health sector was reformed a dramatic [00:06:28] way. The other sector was in the area of [00:06:32] infrastructure. Of course, he was operating [00:06:36] at [00:06:36] the time when the French were now revolting against him a [00:06:40] sense and therefore are not supporting him. but he said with our little resources [00:06:44] and what it is that we are realizing from the sale [00:06:48] of our minerals, we must work [00:06:52] on infrastructure and efforts are being made and [00:06:56] were made during that period to ensure that [00:06:59] infrastructure was indeed given [00:07:03] its pride of place. there was also reform in [00:07:07] mainstreaming women, women were not involved and he took [00:07:10] the view that human... Rights only make sense if it [00:07:14] is gender neutral and deliberate efforts were [00:07:18] made to ensure that women were involved in all [00:07:22] processes and therefore were involved and [00:07:26] engaged in the process of development the [00:07:30] country. In terms of diplomacy, Thomas [00:07:34] Sankara took the view that diplomacy must be [00:07:38] anchored on pan Africanism, that meant [00:07:42] that we must have friends who are panafricanis and [00:07:45] panafricanism were understood to mean that [00:07:49] all activities must be afrocentric, that you [00:07:53] only have such friends as are useful to [00:07:56] you, and he took the view that the western world was [00:08:00] hostile to burkinafaso, hostile to [00:08:03] Africans, and that it was wise to begin to [00:08:06] gravitate toward countries such as Cuba, China [00:08:10] and the Soviet Union. at that time and he took [00:08:14] the view that they - their approach was not to [00:08:18] dominate, but to collaborate and to [00:08:21] cooperate, but Thomas [00:08:24] Sankara did something which he [00:08:28] will be remembered for in his attempt to fight [00:08:32] the imperialist. on the 27th [00:08:35] day of September [00:08:37] 1987 on the [00:08:40] floor of the [00:08:44] auditorium in Adis sabab by Ethiopia, he said, [00:08:47] in order to free ourselves from the chains of [00:08:51] imperialism, we must stop borrowing money from the [00:08:55] international monetary fund and the World Bank, he [00:08:58] suggested, let a committee be formed, which committee [00:09:02] will now say we are no longer going to borrow from them, we are no [00:09:06] longer going to pay them, and he said, if I do [00:09:09] it alone as Bukinafaso, as toma, [00:09:13] isidore, noel, sankara, I will not leave [00:09:17] to see it, and he did not leave to see it, and whenever I watch the [00:09:21] footage when he was making that statement, I could see the [00:09:24] faces the leaders looking at this young man who is [00:09:28] breathing fire and brimstone, and when he made [00:09:31] that statement, he said [00:09:34] that there was need to take deliberate steps to ensure that [00:09:37] debts were not paid, because as long as we were [00:09:41] tied to the international monetary fund and tied to the [00:09:45] world bank and WTO and all these bretton Woods [00:09:49] institution and tied as it were with [00:09:53] these western institutions which were parasitic, [00:09:57] then Bukinafaso would not grow. It is [00:10:00] those approaches, those revolutionary things that [00:10:04] Toma Isidore did in Burkinafaso than [00:10:08] that then turned. [00:10:12] against him a manner of speaking, [00:10:14] France was not [00:10:17] resting, they were working, [00:10:21] and in fact it is now on record. that Tomas [00:10:25] sankara was warned that there [00:10:28] was a plot to kill him and that the [00:10:31] person who was leading the plot was none [00:10:35] other than his best friend, so he [00:10:38] thought blace kampaure, and this is what he [00:10:41] said, if it is blace campaure who is planning to kill [00:10:45] me, i have no defense against him, and we know that blace [00:10:49] kampaure led the push that then [00:10:52] killed Tomas isid. [00:10:55] sankara and we know that the revolution [00:10:59] that was created and that happened between [00:11:01] 1983 and 1987 [00:11:05] was then interrupted because you now [00:11:09] had the restoration as you would [00:11:13] say the ancient regime which was [00:11:16] beholden to the french, but the beauty of it [00:11:19] is that the revolution of Thoma Isidore [00:11:23] Sankara is is alive, the new [00:11:26] administration of Ibrahim Traore [00:11:30] is beginning to re-energize that [00:11:34] revolution, the rhetoric is right, the action is [00:11:37] right, and it can simply be said, Thomas [00:11:41] Sankara is dead, but the Thomas Sankara [00:11:44] Revolution is alive and well. [00:12:10] starting the US-Israel war in Iran was easy, ending this war [00:12:14] seems almost impossible. America's overwhelming military [00:12:18] power has proven to be indecisive as Iran holds [00:12:21] significant high cards. Eventually the global. [00:13:43] I am Pierro Lumumba here at the Maruba [00:13:46] Dam in Machacos County in the Republic of [00:13:50] Kenya in the continent of Africa. We continue [00:13:53] our sea. is on the continent of [00:13:57] Africa and today we focus [00:14:00] a subject that has preoccupied historian for a [00:14:04] long time, the Herrero [00:14:08] mamassaka, historians are [00:14:11] unanimous in describing this massacre as the [00:14:15] first massacre the 20th century, and in order [00:14:19] to contextualize this massaca, I [00:14:23] always look at the state. that was made by [00:14:26] Otmark in [00:14:28] 1862 when he was addressing the Prussian [00:14:32] Parliament when he said that the issues the [00:14:36] day will not be solved by long speeches and [00:14:40] general consensus but by iron and blood. It is after that [00:14:43] speech that he convened the infamous [00:14:47] Berlin conference held in Berlin between the [00:14:51] year 1884 and 188. [00:14:55] five and the European powers then divided [00:14:59] the continent of Africa into spheres of influence. [00:15:03] Germany of course acquired several territories in Eastern [00:15:07] Africa, in Western Africa and in what [00:15:10] then became known as the [00:15:13] southwestern Africa, which we now [00:15:16] know as Namibia. When they entered into that [00:15:20] space, it was in the spirit that reigned in Europe [00:15:24] at that time. of acquiring territory for [00:15:27] purposes of agriculture and exploitation of other [00:15:30] resources and the primary [00:15:34] inhabitants of that area in included [00:15:38] majorly the Herrera ethnic group and the [00:15:42] nama, of course the koisan were also there, but [00:15:46] this particular massaca that we now know [00:15:49] as the Herrera took place between the year [00:15:53] 1904 and 1908. The [00:15:57] things that happened in