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[00:00:00] In Asia managed to defeat the colonial empires and
[00:00:04] defend its
[00:00:05] of independence, becoming an example for
[00:00:08] of millions
[00:00:08] of the oppressed on the
[00:00:09] planet.
[00:00:13] of
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[00:00:29] Hello and welcome to world's apart.
[00:00:32] of for years, multitasking or having it all has been praised as
[00:00:35] both necessity and a privilege
[00:00:38] of of modern life. originating in the west, it quickly spread
[00:00:41] around the globe, especially to the fast growing economies
[00:00:45] of the east. it creates prosperity, but also takes away
[00:00:49] from the things that can never be fully enumerated, like
[00:00:52] of family bonds or traditional culture, and the question is, can they
[00:00:56] to be bridged? well, to discuss that i'm now joined by Cesca
[00:01:00] Gonzalez, a
[00:01:01] of Filipino
[00:01:02] of entrepreneur, pilot, advocate of female empowerment and
[00:01:05] mother of two. Cheska, it's great to talk to you.
[00:01:08] a Thank you very much for your time. Thank you for having me. I heard you say in
[00:01:12] another interview that your professional pursuit of success
[00:01:16] started with your becoming teenage mom, facing certain stigma and
[00:01:20] wanting to prove to your parents that you can be something other than a
[00:01:23] mom, and you've been quite successful at that, but I do want to
[00:01:27] start with the motherhood part. why do you think
[00:01:31] raising another human being or two in your case not seem
[00:01:35] to count as life uh enough of life
[00:01:38] achievement? it is life achievement for me, honestly if they
[00:01:42] weren't
[00:01:43] of here, i wouldn't probably be here as well
[00:01:46] of and they were really my inspiration. you now, but mean
[00:01:49] in the Philippines or probably in the world as well,
[00:01:52] in during the time when
[00:01:53] i gave birth at 16, they were judging me so much to
[00:01:57] point that um thought that my life would
[00:02:01] be this, so my family is very supportive, but my parents
[00:02:05] were initially also a bit
[00:02:08] in
[00:02:08] of me scared of my future because
[00:02:10] in i
[00:02:10] of gave birth at 16, and so when when that happened,
[00:02:14] i thought to myself, you know what, it's not because i want to prove everyone
[00:02:18] wrong, i
[00:02:18] in want to prove myself wrong,
[00:02:21] of that even if i am not, you know, i gave
[00:02:25] birth at such early age, it's it will not be in
[00:02:28] hindrance to anything, and besides I've been talking to lot
[00:02:32] of um young moms as well
[00:02:34] of before and it just feels so sad
[00:02:37] that for them it feels like it's the end
[00:02:39] of the world and for me it felt like it was the beginning of
[00:02:43] something
[00:02:44] a great
[00:02:44] of and so you mentioned the Philippines and I think your your
[00:02:47] country deeper than perhaps many other nations faces
[00:02:51] this question of what life success uh
[00:02:55] parenting support love truly mean because there are lots and lots of
[00:02:59] women give birth a fairly young age, and
[00:03:03] there are also many
[00:03:04] of women who have to leave their children behind and go abroad,
[00:03:07] yes
[00:03:08] for work, I think it's more than 2 million who
[00:03:12] do that, and that often
[00:03:13] of means leaving their kids, especially when they're young
[00:03:17] behind, and that's that's not an easy choice, and it also
[00:03:21] has its own consequences.
[00:03:24] um, what's your, what are your
[00:03:27] overall feeling about this personally? 'I feel like
[00:03:31] it's a necessity for the Philippines
[00:03:34] a because in the Philippines the the rate of
[00:03:38] you know the the salaries
[00:03:42] is really not enough for the family, especially if you're you have a college
[00:03:45] student or you know a high school student um
[00:03:50] of studying as kid and it's it's really
[00:03:53] different when when you're there when you have to
[00:03:57] decide on should i stay in the Philippines
[00:04:01] of with my kids and you know we don't have anything eat or should i
[00:04:04] move to another country but you know my kids are very
[00:04:08] okay and i think it's we cannot
[00:04:12] judge anybody just by simply ab just simply
[00:04:16] by you know choosing what not to do and what to do
[00:04:19] but at the end
[00:04:20] of the day you know if there are we're fortunate in such a
[00:04:24] time that
[00:04:25] there are a lot of like work from home jobs you know like there are a
[00:04:29] of lot of... opportunities that actually can that they can stay with their kids
[00:04:33] a and not go to other countries, but um, being in the
[00:04:36] reality, we all know that it's really
[00:04:39] a different um, when you, it's really different when you earn dollars and when
[00:04:43] you earn pesos, and it sadens
[00:04:45] me a little because it's i have, i have two kids
[00:04:49] and when i'm out
[00:04:50] of the country, i feel like i'm i have
[00:04:54] this mom guilt, i don't know if um anyone feels that, but there's a mom guilt
[00:04:58] wherein i should be there. but I'm currently here, but
[00:05:01] this is for my future and their future as well, just this is not uh
[00:05:05] to pass any judgments, but in the spirit of uh conversation and
[00:05:09] dialogue, I think people... when
[00:05:13] they're facing with various choices, they have to be
[00:05:16] cognisant the possible consequences and society
[00:05:20] also has its pressure, so for example if society values being
[00:05:24] a good provider more than being a mom, which is
[00:05:28] extremely important not only for your kid, but for the country's
[00:05:31] development, because your presence with them in the early years
[00:05:34] essentially structures their entire
[00:05:38] life's trajectory, so this something like this, if that's
[00:05:42] m'. out, it's very difficult to compensate
[00:05:45] later on, so do you think uh, the philippin society or the
[00:05:49] modern society gives enough of a appreciation to
[00:05:53] this sort of um invisible and not
[00:05:57] fully enumerated aspect of human experience, i
[00:06:00] think it's like motherhood, yeah, i think it's also taken for granted, like when
[00:06:04] people come to other countries, it's also taken for granted by some by
[00:06:08] some that when you come to the Philippines you're you're just... like
[00:06:12] literally dollar sign probably some them the families
[00:06:15] that i know of, but personally on my case i'm grateful that you know my family is very
[00:06:19] supportive and that's a different scenario and you know it's it's i'm just
[00:06:23] lucky that not everyone has this capacity and the ability to
[00:06:27] have a supportive family that you know even helps
[00:06:30] in nurturing my kids
[00:06:33] but in general in the modern society i feel like when
[00:06:36] you come to point wherein you are the
[00:06:40] provider it can be it can be both basically,
[00:06:44] but you just have to intentionally make that life
[00:06:47] choice of being both as mother and as a
[00:06:50] provider, and
[00:06:53] there are a lot of ways probably
[00:06:54] you know that that you can do, and yeah, well there's also
[00:06:58] another aspect, at least of your life, apart from being a provider and being a
[00:07:02] mother, that is being a social role model, especially in your
[00:07:06] capacity as pilot, you are trained to be a
[00:07:10] commercial pilot of airbus a32.
[00:07:21] so technically until now it's 5% the entire world um
[00:07:24] women um women pilots and i feel like i was born
[00:07:28] to represent women in such small
[00:07:32] percentages the industries in in the world like
[00:07:36] basically i'm an air forces service as well on the air force it's also
[00:07:40] a pretty especially
[00:07:42] in the philip there's just few percentage of women as well in
[00:07:45] blockchain and all these industries that i am in and i feel like
[00:07:49] i was just born to be representing that and to show
[00:07:53] women that we can also do that and it's not because the
[00:07:57] division of women and men but i think it's just in society in general that
[00:08:01] they just want role model probably and i unintentionally did
[00:08:05] that that didn't know i was doing it for for people you
[00:08:08] know heard you say in another interview that when people first
[00:08:12] learn that you're associated with the aviation industry, they assume that
[00:08:15] you're a flight attendant and there is a bit of a condescention in
[00:08:19] that, how do you understand it, why do you think what do you think drives it?
[00:08:23] i think because when when a woman is beautiful, it's the initial,
[00:08:27] you know, it's it's either you're beautiful and then you're
[00:08:31] you're this, they they already have that perception of you, and so it's
[00:08:35] not bad that they assume that i'm a flight attendant, thank you that because flight
[00:08:39] attendants are beautiful right, but um, it's also...
[00:08:43] so in in my case when you know people were like or when i was doing
[00:08:46] even um a public address to to the aircraft and they weren't
[00:08:50] seeing seeing me of course bause i am in the cockpit and they were like oh the pilot is
[00:08:54] woman and i was like the the flight and i was like yeah and then
[00:08:58] you know they have it's still a stigma there's still a stigma
[00:09:02] of um this um women pilot uh
[00:09:05] because we just few and i think just being visible and there's a lot more
[00:09:09] now uh better number than before. "and I think just
[00:09:13] being visible out there is having having that
[00:09:17] face that you're you're a woman pilot, it
[00:09:20] just clicks on people that ... it's
[00:09:24] possible. now speaking about the substance of those jobs, because
[00:09:28] you have an experience of being a flight attendent as well, correct? it is my
[00:09:31] understanding that um,
[00:09:34] you know, servicing people on, especially a long whole
[00:09:37] flight
[00:09:38] may take more stamina, more resilience, at times a wider skills."
[00:09:42] then
[00:09:43] you know operating technology in the cockpit, I don't want to be condescending
[00:09:47] towards pilots, but uh, my assumption is that it takes, it's
[00:09:51] it's not just about beauty to be a flight attendent, it takes a lot of work,
[00:09:55] yes, correct, so um, it's it's tiring physically, and
[00:09:59] you know, when during emergency you're going to, you're going to to
[00:10:02] save people, right, so it's tiring physically, but on the other side,
[00:10:06] which I love about being a pilot is you
[00:10:10] bring people to to their destination. and you're you're
[00:10:14] literally holding this 180 lives
[00:10:17] out there and bringing them to their families and i feel like that's
[00:10:21] something that you know pilots and our...
[00:10:25] proud of and at the same time, so is it about the risk, the
[00:10:28] adrenaline associated with it? for me, yes, I think it's also the
[00:10:32] adrenaline, and I think it's it's because I wanted to
[00:10:36] become astronaut before, and probably because astronaut and being a pilot
[00:10:40] is a bit closer, to that dream, and I think it's
[00:10:44] also um,
[00:10:45] you know, being a pilot, you're going to study forever, so I think it's more on
[00:10:49] the mental and flight attendant is more on the physical and mental,
[00:10:53] so um, yeah, I... there's there's two different worlds,
[00:10:57] but i really love the aviation world. is there
[00:10:59] any difference in terms of style
[00:11:03] or experience of how women versus men pots do it?
[00:11:07] would you be able to sense it if you were passenger right now
[00:11:10] flying such a play? i well i have asked other um
[00:11:14] passengers,
[00:11:15] i don't know personally, but probably in in terms the cockpit right, mean girls
[00:11:19] have this flare right? so it's it's a bit different
[00:11:23] and from the passenger's point. they said, not on my, not in my
[00:11:27] words, but from them, that um, when it's a woman,
[00:11:31] they it's just, it it has different feel to
[00:11:34] it, so I personally don't know, I haven't felt
[00:11:38] it in as a passenger, but definitely I feel
[00:11:42] like uh, in terms of work, ethics and everything, I think there's a
[00:11:46] lot of difference. I know that you had your break operating
[00:11:49] commercial jets, but you now intend to transition to piloting
[00:11:53] private jets. "do you think there's any
[00:11:57] difference when it comes to wealthy people who can
[00:12:01] afford to have their own planes about intrusting their lives to a
[00:12:05] man versus woman pilot? i
[00:12:08] actually don't know what they think about it, but um definitely there's
[00:12:12] especially in the middle east cuz i've been doing it in the middle east and there's a
[00:12:16] smaller percentage than you can think of in in middle east middle east
[00:12:20] and i think they were happy that i'm i think it
[00:12:23] depends on your skills." "it really doesn't matter if you're a man or woman so it really depends on your
[00:12:27] skills, but at the same time the reason i chose
[00:12:31] going to private jets because the schedule and i want to spend more time
[00:12:35] with my kids and i feel like that's something the diff the difference between the
[00:12:39] airline and doing private jets
[00:12:41] but you know like when it comes to the airline the airline cannot openly tell you you
[00:12:45] know uh i don't like or i don't trust women
[00:12:48] so i'm not goingna allow you do that but if you want to
[00:12:52] do that with private jets if i have my own..." equipment, i
[00:12:56] can refuse you for whatever reason, don't you
[00:12:59] think that you will have to deal with this stigma yet
[00:13:03] again if you if you pursue that? i think if you are are
[00:13:07] confident enough to you know that that you can do it
[00:13:11] regardless and
[00:13:13] you know god has a way of putting you where where you're at, i
[00:13:16] think that confidence and level of
[00:13:19] um um safety for you that
[00:13:23] wherever you are you're meant. be there, so I'm really not
[00:13:27] afraid, probably because the experiences that I have, right? okay,
[00:13:31] well, we have
[00:13:32] to take a very short break right now, but we'll be back in just few moments, stay
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[00:15:20] Welcome back to world's
[00:15:21] apart.
[00:15:25] and female empowerment advocate, we talked lot
[00:15:29] about different sides of female empowerment and this
[00:15:33] is such
[00:15:33] a nuanced and complicated concept because "I
[00:15:37] personally feel that there's a lot of genuine issues there, but I also think that
[00:15:41] it is often exploited by the
[00:15:45] conventional and modern culture,
[00:15:47] to uh encourage women to be what
[00:15:51] they don't necessarily want to be. Yeah, any case, how
[00:15:55] do you understand that? Well,
[00:15:58] I, my family actually wanted me to become a doctor,
[00:16:02] that alone, even when you were when you your kids, right,
[00:16:06] people want
[00:16:07] you to be..." something, people want you to become this and that,
[00:16:10] and I believe that um, empowering females
[00:16:14] are, it's not just telling them who you become, it's
[00:16:17] asking them what they really want to become, because sometimes one person
[00:16:21] just wants to become a mother, right, and becoming mother for
[00:16:25] example, it's already an achievement, and I respect that,
[00:16:29] people should respect what they really want, unless they're, well,
[00:16:33] but it's also very hard to understand what you really want when
[00:16:35] everybody. you different things, culture wants one
[00:16:39] thing, your family wants the other, and you're too young to understand how
[00:16:43] to figure out, so what i did um when when i was younger, i've
[00:16:47] tried every single thing that you can think of, like i feel
[00:16:50] like we have the permission to try out lot
[00:16:54] of things
[00:16:54] i always tell this to my kids that you know my my my daughter wants to become a
[00:16:58] lawyer for example and i said you must but i want to become
[00:17:01] a i want to do guitar and i want to do this and that i said just do
[00:17:05] it because sometimes you don't know - the lawyer thing is
[00:17:09] just because of what the society is telling them or
[00:17:13] probably in in the social media or something and i tell them that
[00:17:16] you know it's it should be because you want to try it. the reason
[00:17:20] i have all these um titles is not because the titles
[00:17:24] alone, i really want it to become like i just want to try
[00:17:27] it, is this something that i love? is this something that i want? and
[00:17:31] probably i think that's what's missing in in in some
[00:17:34] people, like they just don't want to try because they don't want to risk. I heard you say
[00:17:38] in another interview that seeing a professional barriers always
[00:17:42] gets, almost always gets you're excited and you see your life
[00:17:46] purpose uh to encourage others not to be discouraged, but I wonder
[00:17:50] if you ever get tired of pursuing all these goals
[00:17:53] and trying to conquer the world, oh trust me, I i am,
[00:17:57] like um even when I'm especially when you're alone, when you feel like
[00:18:01] you're fighting and then you're asking for who, for why, for
[00:18:05] what, you know, so I think... It's not just
[00:18:08] because I'm tired, but probably because this is
[00:18:12] much more bigger than me. I think everything that I do, not just becoming pilot, even
[00:18:16] for my blockchain advocasies and everything, I feel like it's not just for
[00:18:20] me, I feel like it's responsibility that was given to me way
[00:18:23] back by by god probably, and you know everything
[00:18:27] that I'm doing is much more than what I can handle, and whenever
[00:18:31] I whenever I have the chance to to ask and
[00:18:34] you know pray, I was like, is this?
[00:18:38] is this really what i want because you know or is this really my
[00:18:41] purpose cuuse i feel like if i don't do
[00:18:45] this no one would and if someone would
[00:18:48] probably not in my country or not in this area the world and
[00:18:52] you know changing one life at least or probably knowing
[00:18:56] someone that you changed their life is already a
[00:18:59] success to me so the reason the masking and there may be
[00:19:03] major cultural differences here but in my circle of uh
[00:19:08] high achieving women, I see lot of not just
[00:19:12] hunger, but longing for social non-achievement, for
[00:19:16] being able to not be efficient all the
[00:19:20] time, to slow down, not to be inspirational model, to be somebody
[00:19:23] who is quiet, not very remarkable,
[00:19:27] because you know I feel like with
[00:19:31] many with some of my friends, it is as if it's not
[00:19:35] hard then they don't have a permission to... to pursue
[00:19:38] it and there are many things in life that are easily available that you don't
[00:19:42] actually need to fight for, but over time it's
[00:19:46] hard for women to allow themselves to stop fighting and
[00:19:49] just enjoy it. was i'm currently actually
[00:19:53] now in that um i hope that i'm already there, but
[00:19:57] you know that sometimes slow down and then i feel like there's
[00:20:01] another thing that like this congress for example like this economic um
[00:20:05] forum i wasn't planning to be here but but then you know it's it's
[00:20:08] just um it it I'm representative and
[00:20:12] I'm here so I don't have a choice but to to do
[00:20:16] this in my head was like I was tasked to do this
[00:20:20] so it's it's more of like just inspiring
[00:20:23] people unintentionally but definitely trust me I want to
[00:20:27] slow down and I've been slowing down for the past years and you
[00:20:30] know it's I want to become I want also to
[00:20:34] feel like woman cuz I i feel like being
[00:20:38] just women empowerment alone is entirely different from
[00:20:42] just go go go, i feel like you should also slow
[00:20:46] down, and that's very important in life, even if you're a female or a male.
[00:20:50] Ab slowing down is knowing where you really want to go. As I was
[00:20:54] preparing for this interview, I read lot of stories about about the
[00:20:58] filipino women's experiences, especially those who go abroad
[00:21:02] or the like life stories their children, and that was
[00:21:05] actually very rich and painful
[00:21:09] subject, because you see that many them do want their
[00:21:13] children to succeed, they put their lives on the on the line
[00:21:17] and go work for many hours.
[00:21:26] And then it turns out that many the children drop out of schools, they
[00:21:30] don't want to pursue that career, and then everybody gets
[00:21:33] disappointed, everybody was striving for some goal, but
[00:21:37] nobody really talk to one another whether they want that goal
[00:21:41] or not, so I think it's not just the Filipino question, I mean for all of
[00:21:44] us, that's a very relevant question, so how
[00:21:48] do you deal with those? um, how do you
[00:21:52] assign uh priorities to the various challenges or the
[00:21:56] various tasks that you? you know, I treat my life, I, I
[00:21:59] did not know that I was treating my life this way, I'm treating my life like pilot,
[00:22:03] so um, you have a checklist right, so technically when you do fly
[00:22:07] you have a checklist, I did not know that I'm doing it like that, and so I deal with
[00:22:11] it one a time, and now especially that I know that for
[00:22:15] example, there's a technical failure an aircraft, you do that in your own
[00:22:19] life as well, so I check what is wrong and i
[00:22:23] make sure that i um attend to that, so for example this
[00:22:27] this um past few months i needed to be in the
[00:22:30] philippines, i'm based in dubai but needed to be in the philippines because i want to spend more
[00:22:34] time with my kids and my kids need more attention and
[00:22:38] so do that because that is what's needed so you treat
[00:22:42] your life as if like you treat it one at the time
[00:22:45] so personally deal with it in such a way also
[00:22:50] that
[00:22:50] you know when when you see necessary slowing down
[00:22:54] like you said help a lot in terms of seeing a bigger
[00:22:58] picture, i think you need to see it a bigger picture as well because if you just you know you're
[00:23:02] in the problem or you're in that scenario you cannot think
[00:23:06] straight
[00:23:06] so you need to really you know put it a such a bigger picture
[00:23:10] that when you see what's wrong then you focus on that
[00:23:14] so if you if your kids need attention you do that if your
[00:23:18] career needs attention then you do that
[00:23:20] i think it's just matter of um putting it in such a way
[00:23:24] that it's um uh the priority itself as well
[00:23:28] and um compartmentalizing the the the
[00:23:31] problems. heard you say before that learning to
[00:23:35] fly has taught you how to be fully present in everything that you do and
[00:23:39] i wonder if you have any life hacks or advice for all of
[00:23:43] us because you know being present is not easy, it's
[00:23:46] actually very hard worn skill 100%. like
[00:23:50] imagine if
[00:23:51] you have a problem and you're flying a plane
[00:23:52] like you cannot you cannot do anything
[00:23:55] you cannot think about it at all right so made it in such a
[00:23:59] way that when i come to the if i come to the office if i
[00:24:03] want if needed to fly i forget everything that
[00:24:06] you know that's bothering my everything mentally physically
[00:24:10] etc. just forget about everything else and
[00:24:13] think to yourself there's only like eight hours eight
[00:24:17] hours is not going to kill anybody. just just be there, just be
[00:24:21] present, or probably you need to take a a
[00:24:24] walk. 10 minutes of slowing down won't won't hurt you. i think it's
[00:24:28] just the small things every day or probably going to the gym right?
[00:24:32] going to the gym is not because of just your your health, but it's
[00:24:36] because you remove everything, you don't go to the gym and you text and you you do all these
[00:24:40] things, you do things one a time just so you
[00:24:44] don't get overwhelmed, because i was overwhelmed, i'm telling you this because it's
[00:24:48] not because i already mastered it, but "I think it's because the experience that
[00:24:51] I had and
[00:24:53] you know it's it's just literally um not being
[00:24:56] present for the past years of my life and I think just being
[00:25:00] present makes you fully understand what
[00:25:04] life is and what um you really need to be to do to
[00:25:08] be doing and your purpose as well so slowing down is the key to to
[00:25:12] everything well before we fully slow down I do want to ask you a couple of
[00:25:15] questions about your current occupation and uh you are the founder the Philippine..."
[00:25:20] a large event that brings creators uh from across the field
[00:25:24] and from across the globe blockchain
[00:25:26] week suppose what uh drew your interest to that? so during
[00:25:30] the pandemic I lost my job and um I lost my job as pilot cuz no
[00:25:34] one's flying right and I learned and earned crypto and because I learned and
[00:25:38] earned crypto I said to myself what is this um industry so I'm
[00:25:41] I'm very very curious on what that industry was like so I went to Dubai I
[00:25:45] to this conference and met lot of people and I've
[00:25:49] been... um ask to do blockchain and women empowerment
[00:25:53] talks and everything and i was like what i going to do with all of my contacts and
[00:25:57] bridge them all together so what i did is i started philippine
[00:26:01] blockchain week uh in the Philippines, it's the largest blockchain
[00:26:04] event in the Philippines and I bridge, since I live in
[00:26:08] another country, I bridge all the countries all
[00:26:12] together and bring businesses to the Philippines and back. now we talked
[00:26:15] about the difficult economic situation in the Philippines or rather the
[00:26:19] challenging, and it's not just the Philippines, I mean the entire
[00:26:23] world is facing uh lot of hardship, but there is a
[00:26:27] large gap between high birth rates
[00:26:29] and well-paying jobs. in your
[00:26:33] country and that's one the reasons why people have to go
[00:26:36] abroad. um, do you think the blockchain or the tech
[00:26:39] industry have uh any possibility of
[00:26:43] perhaps changing or augmenting some of that? 100%. i feel
[00:26:47] like the reason also started this is because i saw the
[00:26:51] potential of when i bring companies, international companies to the Philippines, they hire
[00:26:54] filipinos, so when they hire filipinos, this filipinos get a
[00:26:58] larger pay and a larger salary, and this salary can't
[00:27:02] make them stay in the Philippines and that is such huge huge help
[00:27:06] to this filipino to the country right
[00:27:09] and the the moment i saw that and you know more
[00:27:12] entrepreneurs are being born like just because
[00:27:16] you know they meet people elsewhere and then they said to theirself like i
[00:27:20] can also do it and so um i think just
[00:27:24] making their lives
[00:27:25] you know um people who cannot fly in or who cannot go to this
[00:27:29] conferences um can have that chance. just by going
[00:27:33] to to that conference, like just bridging him all together, and finally,
[00:27:37] I know that you had to uh partner with the filipino government for
[00:27:41] for for this event, and successive filipino governments said that
[00:27:45] they do want to create more jobs at home, but at the same time your
[00:27:49] economy is heavily reliant on foreign
[00:27:52] remittances, so the government is a bit of bind, they
[00:27:56] want people to, especially mothers to stay home, but they also
[00:27:59] benefit them from going away, and I wonder how... how you think
[00:28:03] that could be changed? mean, would that require only economic measures? or
[00:28:07] perhaps
[00:28:07] the culture needs needs to change as well, something,
[00:28:11] something's going to give, because you cannot have both at the same time. correct. i think
[00:28:15] the culture also understands that um, mean
[00:28:18] it's very easy now to understand what's happening, so
[00:28:22] so the filipinos are very talented and very wise, so
[00:28:26] they they do understand that we are hustlers as well, so we we know what to
[00:28:30] do, but in terms. so you know the
[00:28:34] the the salary probably and the high birth rate and everything
[00:28:37] else, i think it's really
[00:28:41] do um bridging private sector and the public sector, because if you just
[00:28:45] rely on the public sector of course
[00:28:47] i mean we all know that it's it's different right, they have their own priorities and
[00:28:51] everything else and they usually touch the the
[00:28:54] class that are um not not everyone like not
[00:28:58] everyone they cannot handle everyone so what um i think we
[00:29:03] are actually doing right is that the private sector, which is
[00:29:06] us, is helping all the classes, um,
[00:29:09] families to to know and to know more
[00:29:13] opportunities outside and maintain the money inside
[00:29:17] the the the Philippines and so the economy also
[00:29:20] booms, so I think it's really the bridging of private and public
[00:29:24] sector locally, just so you can
[00:29:28] um, first of all they will hear you, they they can hear like for example the blockchain
[00:29:32] bills. right, we don't, they don't care about blockchain for the past five
[00:29:36] years, and after five years now, it's all becoming mainstream, we have
[00:29:39] blockchain bills all over and everything else, so it's really the bridging of
[00:29:43] public and private sector that will help the economy
[00:29:46] boom, so well just good, this is all we have time for, thank you very
[00:29:50] much for this truly inspiring conversation, thank you, thank you so much for having
[00:29:54] me, thank you, and thank you for watching, hope to see you again on world's
[00:29:58] apart next week,
[00:30:35] 'Hey, I see you washing the moscow mules and
[00:30:39] we're going to brain wash the crap area, getting word from
[00:30:42] red square, I don't care what my voters say, I'm not a
[00:30:46] warmonger, I a peacemaker, eating the dogs, eating the
[00:30:49] cats, huggy, there you
[00:30:53] go, all squeaky
[00:30:54] clean'.