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[00:00:28] and welcome back to going underground for the third and final part of
[00:00:31] of our conversation with Tucker Carlson, you mentioned assassination,
[00:00:35] the thread of assassination to you, but I mean, and but
[00:00:39] it is your contention that that your friend Charlie Kirk,
[00:00:43] it was suspicious, the timing with which he was saying, we're going to
[00:00:47] allow voices on stages
[00:00:49] of a turning point USA to
[00:00:53] of attack Israel, and uh, he was being threatened,
[00:00:57] yeah, uh, after that, well,
[00:00:59] me specifically, it was about me, which is the whole thing is kind of bewildering to me since i'm
[00:01:03] i've never been a particularly strident, well haven't been anti-Israel at all
[00:01:06] actually, mean you could, i've been on television for 35 years, you could go back
[00:01:10] and i've never attacked Israel, i don't i've never had strong feelings even now you say it's a
[00:01:14] great country, well yeah, i think that
[00:01:18] less because i'm annoyed, but like i've never made anger at
[00:01:22] Israel much less Jews, like the center of my world, i'm not mad at
[00:01:26] all Jews of course so my closest, mean whatever, i'm not...
[00:01:30] says i might never have been, i'm not going to become one, and i'm not an obsessed anti-Israel
[00:01:34] hater, so it's a little bit strange to be
[00:01:38] sort of cast in that role, it wasn't my choice, i can promise you
[00:01:41] that, but they've been almost monomaniacally focused on me,
[00:01:44] i'm not sure why, and i think partly it's because i'm not an
[00:01:48] in anti-semite, i'm not a nazi, i'm anti-nazi, and
[00:01:52] so
[00:01:52] of that i think makes the criticism may be more dangerous, if you can look at
[00:01:56] point at someone and say, well look, he's clearly just motivated by hate, well, i'm not.
[00:02:17] a
[00:02:30] would have full confidence in the incomplete version of
[00:02:34] events the federal government has given us, like where does that confidence come from? why you
[00:02:38] so certain that's true, and why you mad anyone who doubts it?
[00:02:41] what is that?
[00:02:42] i don't, i've always been an open-minded person, remain
[00:02:45] one, and
[00:02:47] i would be very happy if it turns out that Charlie Kirk was murdered by
[00:02:51] some crazed loan
[00:02:52] of gunman who was upset about trans rights or something,
[00:02:56] but as
[00:02:57] in a good friend of mine said to me, the United States has this situation. where we have lot of
[00:03:00] loan gunmen, lot of crazy loan gunmen,
[00:03:04] but none
[00:03:05] of them ever kill anyone who opposes
[00:03:09] institutional or supports
[00:03:13] institutional
[00:03:13] of power, they only kill people who are a problem for the deep state,
[00:03:17] it's kind of weird isn't it, like what are the odds of that? you
[00:03:21] have a president who talks
[00:03:24] a about, limiting the power of CIA and preventing Israel from
[00:03:28] getting nuclear weapon at Demona. "and that guy gets killed by lone
[00:03:31] gunman, and then you have his brother who's about to become the democratic nominee in
[00:03:35] 1968 who's like, wait, we're going to get to the bottom of what happened to my brother, and then he gets
[00:03:39] killed by another lone gunman a Christian Palestinian kind of weird, and then
[00:03:43] you have a civil
[00:03:45] of in rights leader of who all of sudden pivots and starts talking about economic inequality and he gets killed by whom?
[00:03:49] alone gunman, and then you have Charlie Kirk, the single most important
[00:03:53] organizer on the American right with the largest base of
[00:03:56] young supporters who's like, wait second, why should we be..." following
[00:04:00] Israel into another regime change war and he gets killed by another lone
[00:04:03] gunman. mean it's just kind of
[00:04:05] of pattern that notice, and maybe it's all real, maybe i'm the crazy
[00:04:09] one, maybe i'm a conspiracy theorist, but do think it's worth pushing
[00:04:13] a little bit and asking like, what do we know? and the fastest way to find out
[00:04:17] what we know is by declassifying the government documents that tell us more,
[00:04:21] of but they never have and they never will. so don't expect me in the
[00:04:25] face of that kind of unjustifiable
[00:04:29] secrecy to... your story buse I don't you
[00:04:32] and Charlie Kirk were desperate to create a uh, I
[00:04:36] mean, perhaps regain, but create a great America, we were
[00:04:40] obsessed by the decline
[00:04:42] of the United States since the aftermath of World War II, of
[00:04:45] course, whatever Israel has
[00:04:48] of done to the United States and foreign policy, whatever tragedy Israel's
[00:04:51] done in Gaza, the war in Iran and so on,
[00:04:55] of the benefits that come out of all that tragedy arguably have
[00:04:59] been bricks. to the bricks countries, power
[00:05:02] is uh moving to the bricks countries, they've had
[00:05:06] the daily summit, um, do you think people in the
[00:05:09] beltway understand that all their? policies have been
[00:05:13] directed to benefiting the bricks
[00:05:16] countries, how isolating Russia has helped to
[00:05:20] isolate the United States and NATO
[00:05:22] countries? I think they
[00:05:26] refuse to believe it, I think it's
[00:05:29] too damming an indictment the last 80 years
[00:05:33] of our history, they can't metabolize it, they refuse.
[00:05:37] I mean, I got fired over this, I think, from my last
[00:05:41] job, the... Joe Biden, the byden administration kicked
[00:05:45] Russia out of Swift, I mean, and it was very quickly after the war
[00:05:49] began, um, I said the obvious, I'm not a genius, I
[00:05:52] just connected some pretty simple dots, if we're
[00:05:56] using the US dollar as a weapon of war, there's
[00:06:00] no greater incentive for countries to dedollarize, which is to say, get rid of our
[00:06:04] debt than that, don't do that if you want to
[00:06:08] continue to hold the world's reserve currency, like that's crazy, it's self-destructive
[00:06:12] behavior. "I said that immediately,
[00:06:14] and again doesn't understand
[00:06:18] that. I mean, surely he understands that. Well, so I think he does
[00:06:22] understand, that's a very smart point, and thank you for saying that. I of course he
[00:06:25] understand,
[00:06:26] Rupert Brock's a lot smarter than I am, that's for sure, and much richer. So, of course he
[00:06:30] understands that. There's a sense in which all of this,
[00:06:34] American and UK,
[00:06:37] German policy, it's really those three countries that are driving
[00:06:41] all of this. those policies are all
[00:06:44] designed to hurt those three countries,
[00:06:47] particularly the United States, but also Britain and Germany, and it's
[00:06:51] like this is self-harm we're watching. The goal is to
[00:06:55] destroy the west, obviously, it couldn't be more obvious to me.
[00:06:58] Now, why, what's the motive? I don't understand it, that's why I think there's
[00:07:02] a spiritual component here, but the effect is to destroy the
[00:07:06] west is to dethrow
[00:07:07] on the west, is to topple American empire, all empires, the only other
[00:07:11] explanation is their old. Chinese agents trump
[00:07:14] and all the european buse all they do is to
[00:07:17] benefit Russia and China,
[00:07:19] this is the real Russia is so true, that is so true, and
[00:07:23] that's why I was so anxious to go to Russia after the second i got fired, I went to Russia
[00:07:27] because I could, and the first thing I found was like a
[00:07:31] thriving city, I didn't want to find that, I didn't want to discover
[00:07:35] that Moscow is not just nicer than New York, but much nicer than New York,
[00:07:39] infinitely nicer than New York, much bigger than New York. much
[00:07:42] nicer, I didn't want to find that, but I did,
[00:07:46] and that fact, and I was attacked endlessly for
[00:07:50] saying this, but it's just true, I, I didn't make it up, and I didn't create it, I just
[00:07:54] observed it and reported it, that fact tells you
[00:07:57] everything, it tells you everything about where the world is going,
[00:08:00] and I'm sad about that, I like the United States, by the way, I would defend many
[00:08:04] components the British Empire, in that it brought literacy,
[00:08:08] ended slavery, built beautiful buildings, effective
[00:08:11] infrastructure. there were good things everyone hates to hear this, but it's true, not all
[00:08:15] empires are the same, and yet the the US
[00:08:19] could have been a great, think a force for good in the
[00:08:22] world, but now it's ending and it's ending in the worst
[00:08:26] way, these things do end, but it doesn't have to be the
[00:08:30] fall given all of this, so that means that uh, when you left
[00:08:33] Forks, Trump knew that that could also be reason, so he
[00:08:37] must have pretty clearly understood, and I know we spoke early about Russell Vort, the
[00:08:41] director of Office. management and budget, a complicated secret department that
[00:08:45] seems to be incredibly powerful, all these people would understand that
[00:08:49] throwing Russia out of Swift, and I i don't suppose Russia wants to be back in Swift
[00:08:53] after the latest brick summon, is going to - reduce the
[00:08:56] power the US dollar, what what did what did
[00:09:00] Donald Trump say, and did you speak with him about the Swift situation and
[00:09:04] why that was going to do? I did, I did, and I sp,
[00:09:08] and I said this,
[00:09:09] you know, during the year or so between... invasion and me
[00:09:13] getting fired, think i worked at fox for like year and two months after the
[00:09:17] war in Ukraine began, and i said this many many times and trump would
[00:09:21] call me and agree with me or i'd have dinner with him and he would agree with
[00:09:23] me, this is bad for us and trump would
[00:09:27] always say the net and he said this in public many times, the net effect
[00:09:31] of our war against Russia is to drive Russia into
[00:09:35] the arms of China by necessity, and when the
[00:09:39] two countries are united, you have the world's...
[00:10:12] Yes, in the first place, so there were all these
[00:10:15] different machinations going on in the Trump, in this
[00:10:19] Trump term, and then suddenly it stopped, and then, as I mentioned, there was
[00:10:23] this assassination attempt on Putin.
[00:10:25] and he's he's now saying the American people are
[00:10:29] making money at the war in Russia through Ukraine rather than
[00:10:33] thinking about the geopolitical move kind of that's just
[00:10:36] the saddest and dumbest and actually on some level
[00:10:40] kind of offensive justification for failure,
[00:10:44] he again and again and again said
[00:10:46] I will settle this war, it's terrible for us. I did multiple interviews with him on camera on
[00:10:50] this topic because I've been monomaniically focused on this for
[00:10:54] almost five years and because I think it's so important, I mean it's there's
[00:10:58] a war in Europe in which over million people have died, Ukraine
[00:11:02] has been destroyed as a country, I mean this
[00:11:04] is just inherently important what's happening apart from its effect on the
[00:11:08] US, and so Trump got this, he understood
[00:11:12] it, and but again the very same
[00:11:15] people who pushed him to war in
[00:11:19] Iran have kept the United States at war with Russia, and
[00:11:23] you can't say it enough, the US is... war with Russia through proxies, whether it's
[00:11:27] Germany, UK, but these are all proxies, there are American troops in Germany and the
[00:11:30] UK right now, these are occupied countries, countries occupied by
[00:11:34] us, there
[00:11:35] are American soldiers in those countries and have been for 81 years,
[00:11:38] so this is an American war against
[00:11:42] Russia and Trump is prosecuting it, these attacks on Russia are
[00:11:46] being targeted by the US Intel agency, CIA and NSA, and everyone
[00:11:49] knows this, Putin knows this, I've talked to him about it, obviously, and we all
[00:11:53] pretend, oh no, the... "brits are doing it, Britain doesn't exist
[00:11:57] and as nation anymore, they're not doing anything without us
[00:12:00] and Trump is doing this and he's doing it because he's being
[00:12:04] pushed by these same people, it's so important to them,
[00:12:07] it's so important to them that Putin not run
[00:12:11] Russia, somebody needs to write a book about
[00:12:14] this, you know, I mean, and these are the airs the
[00:12:18] bolshevics,
[00:12:19] and I'll say one last thing, the irony is these same people who
[00:12:23] control our foreign policy establishment,
[00:12:55] secular state that they control, an anti-christian
[00:12:58] state that they control that particular
[00:13:01] type of b we
[00:13:01] get into
[00:13:02] a big big discussion which would just be on on
[00:13:05] that, but having said that, you mentioned the troops
[00:13:09] in Europe, and again trump does mention them
[00:13:12] from time to time as regards the waste of money and the tens of
[00:13:16] thousands of troops and actually he's just put nuclear weapons, station
[00:13:20] them in in Britain as I understand it secretly,
[00:13:23] does he? realize that at least that might be something
[00:13:27] that he could achieve in this term as well as his immigration
[00:13:31] promises. China spending a third of its GDP on military that
[00:13:35] the United States does and all that
[00:13:38] other money is being spent obviously on infrastructure for the Chinese
[00:13:42] people uh instead of on all these bombs let alone Chinese
[00:13:46] troops in some other continent. Is that an
[00:13:49] understanding that uh Trump may
[00:13:53] make real?
[00:13:55] was I there "well he's said it many many times,
[00:13:58] I mean
[00:13:58] of course he understands all of this, acutely understands it
[00:14:02] and has articulated it, and it's on tape so you can find it,
[00:14:05] and I actually have found for it, him
[00:14:07] and saying um, this a lot of cases, so
[00:14:10] no,
[00:14:11] he absolutely understands it, but our
[00:14:15] system, the American system of government,
[00:14:17] is sclerotic, it can't actually respond to
[00:14:21] present danger, to to real threats, even do'.
[00:14:25] essential threats like AI and nuclear war, it's frozen in plates
[00:14:28] paralyzed and that's part the
[00:14:31] problem executive decisions on
[00:14:34] I'll meet Trump, I'll meet Putin, I'll meet Kim
[00:14:38] Jongn, he could just say executive order, thanks to
[00:14:41] Obama's use of executive orders after his poor
[00:14:44] midterms, Trump can now start doing things like we're going to
[00:14:48] withdraw the troops from western Europe, you were in London recently, so
[00:14:51] presumably horror amongst elite classes if the American... troops leave
[00:14:55] Britain. Ultimately I think American troops,
[00:14:59] well they will leave Europe because we can't
[00:15:02] sustain our footprint anymore because we can't afford
[00:15:05] it. Um, so yes, that will happen. The question is
[00:15:09] how, but you have to resolve this, the the war against
[00:15:13] Russia first, and I don't think there's any way out for European leaders,
[00:15:17] that's the truth.
[00:15:18] I don't think Murtz or Burnam or any them have any
[00:15:22] resolution to the real problems, like their populations.
[00:15:25] them
[00:15:25] them all i spent lot of time in Europe and
[00:15:28] and
[00:15:32] well you're you're British so they hate and
[00:15:34] their they're leaders broke they and hate these countries are dying.
[00:15:39] demographically and they've really betrayed their own populations, they've not made life better for their own people,
[00:15:42] and they know that, and this true of America as well, and so I do think they
[00:15:46] see war as kind the only resolution, it's the only way
[00:15:50] to wipe clean the debt, it's the only way that they can gen up
[00:15:54] popular support, it's the only way that they can, burring that,
[00:15:57] institute, total control over their populations
[00:16:01] using technology, only when you're at war can you justify
[00:16:05] police state actions and "and that's what they're going to, Britain,
[00:16:09] particularly Britain, which is a police state, more
[00:16:12] Britains go to jail, many more go to jail every
[00:16:15] year for Facebook posts or social media posts than they do in Russia,
[00:16:19] which has much bigger population, so like these are police dates
[00:16:23] and war allows the government to justify, I mean, I
[00:16:27] don't have been following what's happening to George Galloway, former member of par, long time member of
[00:16:31] parliament and labor leader in Britain, I mean he just got
[00:16:35] debanked, RBS just debanked."
[00:16:37] him after lifetime of banking with them, he's been basically
[00:16:41] barred sorry, yeah, exactly, the two different words, but they're
[00:16:45] kind of allied to the state, actually was bank of
[00:16:48] scotland, yeah, and um, but
[00:16:52] so you're following this, but like George Galloway, I mean, how can that
[00:16:56] even happen? well,
[00:16:58] I don't think we can make this show in Britain, because I don't know, we might say the
[00:17:02] word genocide when it came to Gaza, the British censorship
[00:17:05] agency, Offcom wouldn't... allow it, but having said enough British
[00:17:09] bat bashing Tugar Carlson, we used to run your
[00:17:13] country as you know, and uh, I have family there, that's
[00:17:17] why, actually come to think of it, there are serious issues here,
[00:17:21] because as I understand it, he's a friend of yours,
[00:17:25] Milo yanopulos, Milo
[00:17:28] Yanoplos, there's there are
[00:17:31] characters in who say their friends are Donald Trump that
[00:17:35] tweet intermittently again.
[00:17:38] you,
[00:17:39] and then they tweeted against
[00:17:40] this guy, Milo, uh, they she also
[00:17:44] tweeted against the Graysons Max Blumentall,
[00:17:48] um, Laura Lumer, are there
[00:17:51] a censorship organizations in the United States that are
[00:17:55] allied around the Donald Trump circle, let alone the usual
[00:17:58] suspects like anti-defamation league or
[00:18:02] other groups that hate your first amendment, and
[00:18:06] your fourth amendment. well the ADL is
[00:18:10] aligned with the Trump administration of course, you're closely aligned with the
[00:18:14] Trump administration, and yeah, I mean they, the Secretary of
[00:18:17] State, Marco Rubio, pulled the green cards
[00:18:20] of immigrants to the United States who were here legally,
[00:18:24] it's hard to get a green card, as you know, pulled their green cards
[00:18:28] and deported people for criticizing Israel and said so,
[00:18:31] we're not going to put up with that, so meanwhile we have
[00:18:35] tens of millions of people here illegally. not not much has
[00:18:39] been done to change that, but criticize Israel and you get as
[00:18:43] legal immigrant deported as a college student or someone with a
[00:18:47] job, it's um, yeah, the whole, the
[00:18:50] power
[00:18:51] the US government has been harnessed on
[00:18:53] behalf of Israel, and I never thought I
[00:18:57] would say that, I can hardly believe it's true, but it is
[00:19:00] true, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it, I don't what the end game
[00:19:04] is exactly, I don't know
[00:19:06] how we walk back from the... "i've never seen a more
[00:19:10] aggressive display of identity politics, identity politics being the idea that
[00:19:14] certain groups have more rights than others, there's never
[00:19:16] been a more anti-american idea than that
[00:19:20] system, that's across the board to an extent. i was particularly talking about this woman
[00:19:24] laura, because when you were friends with Donald Trump, you never used your
[00:19:28] friendship to tweet against people
[00:19:31] and showed some kind of power against individuals
[00:19:35] based on your friendship with Donald Trump." that seems to be
[00:19:38] occurring, there seems to be people around Donald Trump, I
[00:19:42] suppose I'm getting to the point of asking the dread question, who is
[00:19:46] Laura luma? I haven't the finest idea, I mean this
[00:19:50] is someone who seems, I don't read anything
[00:19:54] that person writes and but who seems unbalanced to me, but I'm
[00:19:57] not a, I'm not licensed to make that diagnosis, um,
[00:20:01] I would say though that
[00:20:05] it's it's hard to believe that the... president could have
[00:20:08] people like that in his orbit and that I mean she
[00:20:12] has bragged in public about getting Milo Yanapolis
[00:20:15] deported because he criticized Israel, I mean
[00:20:18] that's that was the criteria in there, I mean you could go
[00:20:22] to
[00:20:23] you know the parking lot of any hardware store and any morning the week and find hundred
[00:20:27] people who are here illegally, this guy misses a meeting with the
[00:20:31] immigration authorities, his visa expires
[00:20:35] three months ago and they arrest him and put him in...
[00:20:50] criminals, obviously we don't have a problem with those,
[00:20:53] jeffreysteen, but because they criticized Israel,
[00:20:56] so again, i don't want to think this, but the evidence is
[00:21:00] overwhelming, it's a fact, that is the operating thesis
[00:21:04] the administration, we defend Israel, anyone who criticizes
[00:21:07] Israel must be destroyed, mean trump's been attacking me,
[00:21:11] not that i care, but it's just it's sort of remarkable to me,
[00:21:15] given how well i know him, how well i've always gotten along with him, given
[00:21:18] how's how much I've supported him over the
[00:21:22] years, I criticized Israel and like, that's it, but Israel is
[00:21:26] is foreign country, so criticizing Israel is no more morally
[00:21:29] significant to an American than criticizing Madagascar or Spain, it's
[00:21:33] just it's it's another country, you can have any opinion you want on it, but
[00:21:37] no, no longer, what's going to happen to you then,
[00:21:41] cuz if the CEO greenblad the anti-deformation League and
[00:21:44] Ted Cruz, quotes, working behind the scenes to take
[00:21:48] revolting lunatics like you, down and this is all by the way,
[00:21:52] aside from if the democrats get anywhere near power, because their
[00:21:55] hatred of you is uh long-lasting and their desire to censor
[00:21:59] voices uh that don't conform, so so what is
[00:22:03] going to happen to people like you? well, I mean, that's not in
[00:22:07] my hands, I mean,
[00:22:09] you know, if things continue at the current trajectory, I think
[00:22:13] it's pretty obvious what's going to happen to me, but um, nothing
[00:22:17] good, but you know, we're not in charge of history.
[00:22:20] and i can't
[00:22:21] see the future, that's been proven to me many
[00:22:24] times and um so you know i have no idea, but i just
[00:22:28] see my obligation as pretty clear, just
[00:22:32] say what you think is true, and as fearlessly
[00:22:36] as you can, and i feel privileged that i'm a place where i can do that, i know an
[00:22:39] awful lot of people who who can also see what's happening but
[00:22:43] aren't free to say so because their jobs depend on lying
[00:22:47] or you know they've they've got a mortgage. "most Americans
[00:22:51] are are drowning in debt, or just this is a deeply indebted country,
[00:22:55] and so that
[00:22:56] you know debt is slavery, you're not free to make independent
[00:22:59] decisions, you're not sovereign when you're indebted, and I just happen not to
[00:23:03] be, and that's true wealth, I would say, I don't have a ton
[00:23:07] of money in the bank, but I owe no money to anybody, and so I
[00:23:10] feel like because I have that privilege, I should just say what I think is
[00:23:14] true, just always and I'm going to, just finally, tocar, do you think
[00:23:18] uh, in this Chinese..." century then the Chinese
[00:23:22] will uh uh treat the Americans better than the Americans treated
[00:23:25] them. Do you think we are about to go into a Chinese century
[00:23:29] because of what uh mistakes have been made by uh
[00:23:33] successive European and American leaders? Oh, I
[00:23:37] doubt it. I I doubt we'll be well treated um by our new
[00:23:41] masters. No, I, I don't, I don't have any expectation of that at all. I mean,
[00:23:45] I don't, you, I hope my grandkids aren't working a lithium mine.
[00:23:48] Um, but... "I don't think
[00:23:50] that's, no, I hope not, but I no, I don't
[00:23:54] think the western nations will be treated well, I don't think defeated nations ever are treated well,
[00:23:58] ever. It's just the nature of it.
[00:24:00] I don't think we've treated the Brits well, we didn't even strictly speaking defeat the Brits,
[00:24:04] they just defeated themselves by joining totally pointless
[00:24:07] war over Czechoslovakia and Poland, I know it's unpopular to say
[00:24:11] that, but it's true, they destroyed their own country, Churchill destroyed that country, and
[00:24:15] back Stalin, really, um, and so we didn't
[00:24:19] defeat." britain, but we've treated them like we
[00:24:22] did, and won the second
[00:24:26] world war in fairness, he did, he did, no, I'm not,
[00:24:30] I'm just saying, you can't make a, you can't say
[00:24:33] that you're like on the side the angels when you're arming
[00:24:37] Stalin, so like
[00:24:38] we we should all sort decelerate a little bit with the moral posturing, I'm on the
[00:24:42] right side, we're on the side of light, they're on the side of darkness, it's
[00:24:46] like, you sent weapons to Stalin, so spare me the lecture.
[00:24:50] that that's my view, yeah, I would have done that, but I mean, the
[00:24:53] mysteries, next time I speak to you, but you're not lecturing me,
[00:24:57] but the next time we speak, will these mysteries be cleared up, because I mean,
[00:25:00] there are a lot of mysteries in this whole conversation, um,
[00:25:04] these complete, I hope so, complete switches of
[00:25:07] policy, complete switches of perspective on the part
[00:25:11] the executive, and is JDV just going to
[00:25:15] change a dime, turn a dime like Trump
[00:25:19] did. "i assume you got into this business for the same reason I
[00:25:23] did, which is you're curious, you want to know how things work, like what is
[00:25:26] this, and so I'm tormented by my curiosity, I don't
[00:25:30] know if that's good or bad, but I am, and I, I really would like to
[00:25:34] know, I don't know that we will, I have no idea what the futures
[00:25:37] holds, um, I don't think AI will make it any
[00:25:41] easier to understand, hope I'm wrong there, but uh,
[00:25:45] it's but I last thing I'll say is we need to stop
[00:25:48] pretending." that this war was the result of a
[00:25:52] conventional lobbying campaign where two sides make the
[00:25:56] case and the decision maker chooses the wiser course. That's
[00:26:00] not what happened. I was there. That's not what
[00:26:03] happened, this war and the continuation the
[00:26:07] war against Russia by the United States, those are the result
[00:26:11] of real pressure, like real pressure,
[00:26:14] not calling up, hey will you do a favor, but real pressure, and
[00:26:18] what was the nature of that pressure, unknown, but it existed.
[00:26:22] Talkson, thank you so much, thank
[00:26:25] you, and that's it for our three part special with Tucker
[00:26:28] Carlson, you can watch the full interview online, we will be back on Monday with a... new
[00:26:32] episode for more continuing coverage the death of American empire. See you
[00:26:36] Monday.
[00:30:02] euh préoccupé par vos parents qui vivent en Europe, en sachant
[00:30:06] tout cela, vous êtes préoccupé par vos maman, vos papas, vos grands
[00:30:10] parents, vos frères et sœurs qui vivent en Europe, je suis des racines en
[00:30:14] Europe là-bas, parce que je vois même mes petites sœurs, ils subit ça,
[00:30:18] même mon mon, il y avait ma petite sœur, elle voulait même se
[00:30:22] tuer parce que tout simplement, c'est pas c'est pas c'est pas la faute des enfants là, mais
[00:30:25] c'est de mais c'est la faute à leur mère, parce que c'est eux qui disent que
[00:30:29] non, il est de couleur noir, ne parle pas avec. avec elle, non,
[00:30:33] elle est sale, elle pu comme ça, on on te dit mègre
[00:30:37] des, tu es ici dans la rue, on te dit mègre, comme si tu les
[00:30:40] avais quelque chose, non,
[00:30:44] et et ma petite sœur, elle vient tout le temps, elle me dit,
[00:30:48] maintenant je je veux, je veux plus, je veux plus aller à l'école parce que tout
[00:30:52] simplement on me traite tout le temps, on me traite mal, je suis la seule
[00:30:56] nigre dans notre classe, mais on traite tout le temps mal et ça, je veux pas
[00:30:59] le supporter.