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[00:00:00] but even by his allies, so it's now um
[00:00:03] incument upon him to change that uh by maximizing Americans
[00:00:07] dominance.
[00:00:29] Welcome back. to going underground
[00:00:31] of broadcasting all around the world from the UAE, tomorrow marks four decades since the
[00:00:35] rechevic summit
[00:00:36] a when Reagan and USSR destroyer Gorbachov discussed
[00:00:40] eliminating all nuclear weapons. Gorbachov offered a historic deal
[00:00:43] to totally eradicate strategic nuclear arsenals by the year 2000, but
[00:00:47] Reagan and military industrial
[00:00:49] of complex imperialists like Richard Pearl, the Prince of Darkness who
[00:00:53] later engineer the 203 WMD Iraq Warlies refused to
[00:00:57] abandon fantasy policy called star. wars, talks
[00:01:01] collapsed at the last minute. Just weeks later, Reagan was in
[00:01:04] his Iran contra scandal, illegally trading arms to Iran to funnel
[00:01:08] profits to right-wing death squads in Nicaragua. Desperate to
[00:01:12] save his reputation, Reagan announced acceptance of Gorbachov's INF
[00:01:16] treaty terms in 2019, Trump ripped it all up. It was his
[00:01:20] National Security Advisor, John Bolton, who I'll be interviewing tomorrow on New
[00:01:24] Order who
[00:01:24] of flew to Moscow to personally inform Vladimir Putin that Washington
[00:01:28] was walking away today.
[00:01:30] the threat
[00:01:30] of of thermonuclear catastrophe is higher than any
[00:01:33] of point in the cold war, 85 seconds to midnight.
[00:01:36] of Washington remains trapped and desperate after defeat by Iran, while
[00:01:40] western European vassels continue reckless war mungering against the
[00:01:44] world's largest
[00:01:45] of nuclear power, with NATO nation so-called journalists promoting
[00:01:48] genocide in the path to nuclear war, but real
[00:01:51] a journalists are
[00:01:52] of out there even as press freedom faces its darkest hours.
[00:01:56] Last week marked 20 years of Wikileaks, the platform that...
[00:02:00] exposed US UK EU War crimes. Today we celebrate the freedom of
[00:02:03] Julian Nassage and his return to public life after years of
[00:02:07] British
[00:02:08] of
[00:02:09] of of incarceration and torture. Joining me again from Reckivigan Iceland is the editor and chief of
[00:02:12] Wikileaks
[00:02:13] in Christian Raffenson. Christian, thanks so much for coming on going
[00:02:17] underground. You're talking to us from Reckevic where tomorrow marks
[00:02:20] that anniversary. Of
[00:02:23] of a course, um, there is another 20-year anniversary, arguably
[00:02:27] slightly less important, but probably on the same level.
[00:02:30] of How is Julian
[00:02:31] of Nassange? when was the last time you spoke to him?
[00:02:34] he he returned to ex after eight years, his wife's pregnant with the third
[00:02:37] child due this
[00:02:39] of month? i spoke to him yesterday actually
[00:02:43] and we're regular contact and i visited him in Australia last
[00:02:46] winter uh in the Australian summer, he is
[00:02:49] doing well considering, mean it's been a little over two
[00:02:53] years since he regained his freedom
[00:02:56] finally and he's been using the time in.
[00:03:00] recovery and the family life, which is
[00:03:03] natural, and just recently he removes some
[00:03:07] social media and announced that he was
[00:03:10] returning, so I am certain we're going to hear
[00:03:13] of more for him now in the future, and that is much needed, his voice is
[00:03:17] needed in the current atmosphere, there's a lot
[00:03:21] lot to lot of challenges in today's world, yeah, I mean,
[00:03:25] while he was tortured by the British, I should say you was
[00:03:28] psychologically impact. at 16
[00:03:31] of years uh for
[00:03:31] of you at Wikileaks, the anniversary also also marks, before we get into the
[00:03:35] most significant leaks uh, what about the
[00:03:39] legacy for whistleblowers and journalists? it's been a terrible
[00:03:43] three years obviously for journalists, more than 250 journalists and
[00:03:47] media workers killed in Gaza, that's more than the combined
[00:03:51] number killed in world war one, world war two, all the conflicts of the 20th century
[00:03:55] and this one
[00:03:55] of so far combined, more censorship uh
[00:03:59] without - a free price, of course there is no such thing as
[00:04:02] democracy, what, what would you say before we get to the
[00:04:05] leaks, how significant it has been for whistleblowers and
[00:04:09] a journalists? well, I mean, the state of journalism today is bleak,
[00:04:13] and as you mentioned, the worst spot of
[00:04:17] of course is Gaza, where very brave people have been
[00:04:21] sacrificed in their lives
[00:04:23] of literally and have been targeted and killed and
[00:04:25] of assassinated in in for trying to get a truth
[00:04:28] out on the general. site uh, but journalists are
[00:04:32] facing challenges all over the
[00:04:35] of place, they've been
[00:04:36] of stopped at borders, on on
[00:04:40] furious terrorism charges or
[00:04:44] suspicions
[00:04:46] of and the british border, i know you're talking about the british
[00:04:49] border,
[00:04:51] but but actually
[00:04:54] yeah, well i know all about that british border, but julian chose to spoke about speak
[00:04:58] about gaza,
[00:05:01] of after
[00:05:02] of he regained his freedom of all the places in the world where things are happening,
[00:05:05] he chose Gaza, he did, that is where our
[00:05:09] focus
[00:05:10] of should be, "we are facing
[00:05:14] nation there which is
[00:05:17] committing
[00:05:18] a most horrendous crime before our eyes
[00:05:21] and is dictating the
[00:05:24] empire to into wars
[00:05:27] in my mind the most dangerous country in the world
[00:05:31] today um so we should maintain our
[00:05:35] focus on on that front and journalism's under attack as you
[00:05:38] if we continue on that front that is indisputable and quality
[00:05:42] journalist, those who actually are true to
[00:05:46] the the spirit of true journalism are being
[00:05:50] marginalized push to the
[00:05:54] fringe or silenced, that is still
[00:05:57] going on and that needs to be addressed, and mean
[00:06:00] if we want to go to wikily's
[00:06:04] legacy, it's a 20 years, i'm very proud of
[00:06:08] be have been a part of that for the last 16 years in one former.
[00:06:12] another, it has been exceptionally
[00:06:16] important um actor in our contemporary
[00:06:20] history, which I think we will appreciate more
[00:06:24] as time goes by, maybe it will be the role of historians, but uh,
[00:06:28] certainly it's been an very, very important
[00:06:31] overall input in our
[00:06:35] our understanding the world, and you could, you could
[00:06:39] argue that it's now... for a century
[00:06:43] into the century, and if you look back
[00:06:46] into how things have progressed, after
[00:06:50] 9/11, it was just slippery slope down
[00:06:54] hill or um for
[00:06:57] journalism, and of course we
[00:07:00] had the power abuse growing
[00:07:04] day by day, you had to torture chambers in blacksides
[00:07:07] in Europe, you had quantano bay, you had illegal wars and you had very little
[00:07:11] push back and journalism because secrecy just
[00:07:15] increased year on year, it that all
[00:07:19] changed in 2010, mean that that
[00:07:22] was without any doubts the the
[00:07:26] biggest demonstration
[00:07:29] of of objection to the power abuse
[00:07:33] that you had, and that needs to be acknowledge
[00:07:37] that we certainly
[00:07:41] the saw. into the depth the
[00:07:44] darkness of what was going on and we couldn't
[00:07:48] avoid looking at it. up until then for the
[00:07:51] first decade the century that was just not the case and i can atest to
[00:07:55] that as a journalist working the mainstream i
[00:07:59] was getting very desperate about situation so it
[00:08:03] was a fresh input that
[00:08:06] wikily is brought about in on so many fronts
[00:08:10] and there is so much. remember of of of all
[00:08:14] these years in after yeah if there's any
[00:08:18] journalist out there who's not using wikileaks today then they're not really
[00:08:21] journalistts arguably if they're talking about the contemporary world because the
[00:08:25] relevance continues of course we've had the
[00:08:29] mass killing in minab in Iran the triple
[00:08:32] tack tomock strike not sure of course the
[00:08:36] Americans say they're doing investigation into it I don't know whether it
[00:08:40] reminded you I mean we don't have. a collateral murder
[00:08:43] video the tomahawk strike on the elementary school
[00:08:47] for girls in southern Iran. Tell me about collateral murder and how
[00:08:51] that put Wikileaks on the map? Well, I
[00:08:55] was instrumental in in working on the collateral murder video that was
[00:08:59] released on April 5th, 2010. Um,
[00:09:03] it was, it was an
[00:09:06] explosive video evidence of war crime
[00:09:10] that was real. uh site
[00:09:13] and uh it
[00:09:16] it it was something that will
[00:09:20] always be a an
[00:09:22] iconic part of how we
[00:09:26] view the Iraq war, it was
[00:09:30] the uh the Nepalm girl photo
[00:09:34] of uh the Iraq war if you wish, that is
[00:09:38] the way
[00:09:38] we will see the Iraq war, it will be through that video uh and
[00:09:42] alongside the photographs from Abu Ghraib, that is the
[00:09:46] visual portrayal the nature the Iraq
[00:09:49] war, when it came out, it was a shock, it went
[00:09:53] viral, went all over the place,
[00:09:55] it was watched by millions opon millions and of course it was, as
[00:09:59] you remember showing the assassination of
[00:10:02] civilians, innocent
[00:10:04] civilians, attack upon children and the
[00:10:08] killing of two righters journalists who are working on the ground.
[00:10:13] there uh a photo journalist
[00:10:16] name and his assistant said. yes, I did travel
[00:10:20] to Iraq prior to the release the video and to do an
[00:10:24] onground. on the ground investigation and verification,
[00:10:28] talked to 2000 people who were either direct or indirect
[00:10:32] witnesses to the the event
[00:10:36] and met the two children who survived the
[00:10:39] incident sides and doa whose
[00:10:42] father mat was basically
[00:10:46] assassinated, his only crime was to drive upon the scene and and wanted
[00:10:50] to save the wounded routers sther
[00:10:54] sid small. and these are apache
[00:10:58] apache helicopters obviously from from the US
[00:11:01] military two apache
[00:11:04] helicopters safe high up in the air barely visible
[00:11:08] from the ground with powerful zoom lenses with
[00:11:12] stabilizers and 30 millimeter cannons
[00:11:16] that spew bullets that explode upon in
[00:11:19] impact as as little hand grenades
[00:11:22] designed to penetrate our vehicles and
[00:11:26] tanks, but used against civilians on the
[00:11:29] ground, basically
[00:11:32] exploding upon impact, so you can imagine the
[00:11:36] carnage, it was
[00:11:39] horrific imagery,
[00:11:41] but what was chilling as well and what many picked up on was
[00:11:44] the fact that how the apache
[00:11:48] crews were discussing in between
[00:11:51] themselves over the intercom and in the communication with ground?
[00:11:55] control, how the blood lost that was
[00:11:59] seeping through and the calculated approach
[00:12:03] to try to remain within the so-called
[00:12:07] rules of engagement, and
[00:12:10] but so much willing and trip trigger happy to to finish the
[00:12:14] job. I still, I watched this hundreds of times before it
[00:12:18] was released, studying it before, and it's still in my
[00:12:22] mind, every word uttered in that... "that
[00:12:25] interaction is with me and especially when they
[00:12:28] talk about their achievement,
[00:12:32] and one them says, "look at all these dead bodies," and another
[00:12:36] one replies, nice. the word nice doesn't have the
[00:12:40] same connotation in my head after that,
[00:12:43] and the way they were looking at sidesma heavily wounded on the
[00:12:47] curve with crosser on his back and seeing that he was
[00:12:51] unarmed and being very unhappy and say, "
[00:12:55] well all you got to do is pick up a a
[00:12:58] weapon becuse then they knew they had reason
[00:13:02] enough to open fire and finish him off, but they wait a
[00:13:06] little longer and was on just until the until
[00:13:09] the mini one approach on the scene
[00:13:13] and al was the good
[00:13:16] samaritan trying to save him and then they created a
[00:13:20] pretext saying they were possibly picking up weapons and that
[00:13:24] this was a... bongo truck
[00:13:27] or made it sound like it was this was insurgence and
[00:13:31] got to go ahead to open fire
[00:13:34] and obliterate the vehicle killing all the idols
[00:13:38] inside and the only reason why the two children's reid
[00:13:42] and doa was the fact that the father just threw his body
[00:13:46] to seal them and and taking the bullets and
[00:13:50] the trabnill and to his own body
[00:13:54] christian ravens and stop you there, more from the wikileaks editor and chief
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[00:14:50] Welcome back to Going Underground. I'm still here with the editor and chief of Wikileaks,
[00:14:53] Christinafinson. Christian, you were telling us in part one about the
[00:14:57] collateral murder video, interestingly, not in the indictment actually
[00:15:01] of Julian Assange, but in the indictment of Chelsea Manning who was
[00:15:04] tortured by the United States authorities, whereas Julian was
[00:15:08] tortured by the British. I i don't know whether uh, it
[00:15:12] also demonstrated, I mean Reuters had filed a uh
[00:15:15] freedom of information request, Reuters, an agency that
[00:15:19] arguably looks more and more ridiculous uh, during the
[00:15:23] Gaza genocide, scripal incident in
[00:15:26] Britain, it also showed how journalists in
[00:15:30] NATO countries arguably collaborate, and we've seen that in recent
[00:15:33] years over Gaza, to two sides a story to make...
[00:15:38] out to make out that, I don't know, the situation
[00:15:42] in Gaza has two sides to the story, the
[00:15:45] Afghan War diary 2010, Iraq war logs 2010, half million
[00:15:49] classified battlefield reports revealed more
[00:15:53] lies, 66,00 previously unreported
[00:15:56] civilians killed, I think you want to look at the reporting from res and
[00:16:00] this all in Iraq, of course the Iraq war 23 would have
[00:16:04] shown that everything that they were print. or
[00:16:08] broadcasting was was to promote the
[00:16:11] war, yeah,
[00:16:15] the the critical reporting on the war both in Afghanistan and Iraq was was
[00:16:19] dismal and there was very very few were actually reporting the
[00:16:22] truth out of those countries and especially, I
[00:16:26] mean imagine the fact that when the first part of that
[00:16:30] the afghan war diary, the locks from
[00:16:32] Afghanistan, when
[00:16:36] when it came out... the the narrative, the
[00:16:39] predominant in
[00:16:42] 2010, and and this was this is very close to me
[00:16:46] because I had, I had traveled in to Afghanistan twice in 2004 and
[00:16:50] 2007 and didn't stay there long and I didn't
[00:16:54] have capacity to dig into things there, but the
[00:16:57] over over
[00:17:00] predominant narrative about Afghanistan, but this was was almost
[00:17:04] over, the the it was, I mean I even... interview the had
[00:17:08] the NATO American general the had the NATO force in
[00:17:11] Afghanistan in in Kabul who told me in 2007
[00:17:15] oh it's it's almost over and they always use the word well there are small pockets of
[00:17:19] resistance but when you got then the the
[00:17:23] war logs from Afghanistan and you you look
[00:17:27] through it you saw the escalation the
[00:17:30] conflict and it was getting from bad to worse year
[00:17:33] on year certainly not over basically.
[00:17:37] November of that same year, they were lying through the teeth, and in that
[00:17:40] November through the teeth. November that same year, US diplomatic
[00:17:44] cables, quarter of million, including one them, which is pertinent to the
[00:17:48] possibly the the annihilation of Europe a nuclear conflict
[00:17:52] today, arguably, the US ambassador to Moscow Bill Burns
[00:17:56] showing he well knew what would happen in Ukraine, the
[00:17:59] the warnings the red lines of NATO
[00:18:02] expansion, um, tell me about that
[00:18:06] one, well... was one the many many revelations in
[00:18:09] there, of course the there was a
[00:18:13] story that let there's a back
[00:18:16] story to to the events that are often
[00:18:20] forgotten, that applies to Ukraine, that applies to
[00:18:24] gaza, the the the cionists and the
[00:18:27] Israelis will will let will try to
[00:18:31] convince you that it all started on October 7 th years
[00:18:34] ago, recently that... recently
[00:18:38] passed, but that is not the case,
[00:18:41] but yeah, the war in Ukraine started in
[00:18:44] February 22, apparently,
[00:18:48] not 2014, yeah, I mean, there is back
[00:18:52] story to everything, all the events, I'm not going to start justifying
[00:18:56] the invasion, I'm against war in all forms
[00:18:59] and and and not conton
[00:19:03] gillins any front, but it it amplifies the
[00:19:07] fact. we we really get a glimpse of of what really is
[00:19:11] going on behind the scene and what is in the the story
[00:19:14] and how how could you for years and years hide the
[00:19:18] real truth about these two wars in Iraq and
[00:19:21] Afghanistan uh can you imagine this and in 2010
[00:19:25] actually if you looked at Afghanistan and the war diaries from
[00:19:29] there it was clear to everybody who was looking
[00:19:33] objectively at the data there that this was an
[00:19:35] unwinnable war. "but then of course you had
[00:19:39] to continue for another 10 years,
[00:19:42] unnecessarily, everybody should have known in 2010, 2011,
[00:19:46] this was over, this was unwinnable,
[00:19:48] and we and we did, some of us did even without the cables,
[00:19:52] Israel of course in one the cables saying
[00:19:56] they're happy about Hamas taking over Gaza, the
[00:19:59] attempts to destroy Syria, the bug bugging the United Nations
[00:20:03] officials in in those logs,
[00:20:06] and of course Syria." was important required arguably for the genocide in Gaza
[00:20:10] later, all of those are in those
[00:20:13] diplomatic cables before we get to Snowden, yeah, and I mean the
[00:20:17] diplomatic cables actually revealed something that actually led
[00:20:21] to the withdrawal the US troops out of Iraq,
[00:20:25] so maybe we could say weak did end that war, but at least the presence of US
[00:20:29] troops in the country, that was the the information
[00:20:32] being discussed in the cables about a cover up of a
[00:20:36] hideous war crime. where where where actually
[00:20:40] people were shackled and down to very young children and
[00:20:43] assassinated and then they they they threw bombs
[00:20:47] on the house to try to cover up, this was being discussed. and this
[00:20:50] was led to such so much protest in Iraq that the
[00:20:54] al-Maliki government said is impossible for us
[00:20:57] to continue guaranteeing immunity for us soldiers
[00:21:01] in the country and that led to Obama pulling out the the
[00:21:05] remaining soldiers in Iraq um
[00:21:09] it there was there are so many stories in there I mean the cable
[00:21:12] gate release is was just phenomenal
[00:21:16] of 25000 diplomatic cables from all over the world.
[00:21:20] exposing underbelly the empire, we we use them all the
[00:21:24] time, we use them all the time. Snowden, then still being
[00:21:28] used, yep, Edward Snowden, um, explaining to the world how
[00:21:32] all our phones are bugging us, but particularly Shirak, Sarkozi,
[00:21:35] orland, Merkel, Banky Moon, has been on this show, the former secretary general
[00:21:39] the United Nations, what does it tell us about the
[00:21:42] EU's independence from the United States and
[00:21:46] their ability to forge any kind of policies when all
[00:21:50] them and their most intimate moments are being surveiled
[00:21:54] by American intelligence agencies, well the
[00:21:57] reaction to that, the revelations were remarkable actually, because
[00:22:01] nobody did protest and that says a
[00:22:04] lot, well it was very muted
[00:22:08] protest, of course the independence there
[00:22:11] is is and was
[00:22:15] quite hinch upon the economic and and military...
[00:22:21] uh situation there, we still have what up to 8
[00:22:24] 9000 US troops in Europe are stationed
[00:22:27] there, so it is
[00:22:31] aascue situation and
[00:22:35] Europe has been trying um
[00:22:38] lately to create some kind of
[00:22:41] um independence strategy and
[00:22:45] position, but not sure they
[00:22:49] will... handle that economically and and that will take
[00:22:53] a quite quite a lot of effort if if they are doing so,
[00:22:57] but yes, especially if any them, especially if them being
[00:23:00] blackmailed on information that has been got through
[00:23:04] different programs of that Snoden revealed to
[00:23:08] the world, March 2017, the false flag
[00:23:11] manual for some, vault seven, I should say we always credit
[00:23:15] Wikileaks when we talk about it on going underground, we use use them a lot on
[00:23:19] this show, the revelations that you responsible
[00:23:23] for, the largest ever CIA document leak in history.
[00:23:26] um, tell me about umbridge, which can be used to
[00:23:29] hack computers and put different
[00:23:33] languages, Russia and Chinese in the code, how useful that
[00:23:37] might be for NATO nation powers? well,
[00:23:41] I mean, obviously useful, and there was so much in the world seven leaks
[00:23:45] that that exposed
[00:23:48] the the cyber. arsenal of CIA
[00:23:51] and the embarrassment that it caused CIA was
[00:23:55] was tremendous,
[00:23:56] it was huge, and the reaction was
[00:23:58] strong, you to recall that Mike Pompello
[00:24:02] was director the CIA at the time,
[00:24:06] and the first thing he did when he went to made made his
[00:24:10] public speech, I think it was in April 2017 was
[00:24:14] to outline the the dangers facing the US
[00:24:17] and mentioned to... on the top the
[00:24:21] list Wikileaks and designated
[00:24:24] a foreign hostile intelligence service and
[00:24:28] of course at that point we knew that it was gloves off towards
[00:24:32] Julians and the rest of us and Lawing behold we later
[00:24:36] learn that they were plotting assassination against
[00:24:39] Julian who was at that point in the equatorial empacy they
[00:24:43] tried to kill him in Britain i'm just speeding us along
[00:24:46] buse as you say we can only get a cursory uh view
[00:24:50] of uh your work, um, the of course Trump famously
[00:24:54] said, we love wikileaks, because the pedesta Clinton DNC
[00:24:58] emails showed how dark and
[00:25:02] anti-democratic was Hillary Clinton and the entire Democratic
[00:25:05] national uh committee, um, was that
[00:25:09] where, and then the Russia hoax then came out of
[00:25:12] that, um, well, that that love affair
[00:25:16] and that that love was didn't last very long, any
[00:25:20] invitations recently to the trump? well, it didn't, it
[00:25:24] didn't,
[00:25:25] it didn't take long for Trump actually to when when
[00:25:29] pompeo suggested that Julian would
[00:25:33] be should be targeted, and and he chimed
[00:25:37] according to good resources, well we can we take
[00:25:40] out the SOP or something of that nature, so that
[00:25:44] was a shortl law affair, but the
[00:25:48] the the expose of... the under the inside
[00:25:52] the the democratic party was was extraordinary, it was good
[00:25:55] journalism, it was necessary to expose what
[00:25:59] was going on behind the two door the closed doors and the smoke
[00:26:02] filled rooms, how they were plotting and and manipulating the
[00:26:06] scales against Bernie Sanders would have
[00:26:10] according to all Pauls probably done much better
[00:26:14] against Trump if he would have won the
[00:26:17] primaries, but the scales were tipped against him,
[00:26:21] and then of course it was the two
[00:26:23] faced rhetoric
[00:26:26] by Hillary Clinton who said one thing
[00:26:30] officially, but when she was taking... money speaking
[00:26:34] to wall street donors, she she said another things and she
[00:26:38] admitted it, it was different message on that
[00:26:41] front, so that was of
[00:26:44] course led to then the the the democratic party
[00:26:48] losing itself in the the rosa collusion
[00:26:52] story with ended
[00:26:55] ended in them not finding any
[00:26:59] and yeah meanwile forgot that they
[00:27:03] actually had other elections to prepare for and and didn't have
[00:27:06] candidate when it came up and and had to
[00:27:10] yeah prop
[00:27:11] up
[00:27:15] biting at that point which of course led to criticisms of
[00:27:18] wikileaks saying that you're
[00:27:20] a russian operation that you were somehow and we have
[00:27:24] emphasize that parties all around the world can
[00:27:28] use wikileaks to uh investigate their oppositions and it's
[00:27:32] completely non-partisan, it's on all sides that you've
[00:27:36] investigated including Vladimir Putin, what have you made the persecution
[00:27:40] of RT of channels that
[00:27:43] don't subscribe to the prevailing
[00:27:46] narratives the way the world is at the
[00:27:49] moment? I don't agree with with the measure taken against
[00:27:53] our team,
[00:27:57] and we we
[00:27:59] do have of course...
[00:28:04] stay sponsored journalism
[00:28:07] practicing all over the world and it
[00:28:10] is known that somehow they
[00:28:14] sometimes they have a sland towards the sponsors,
[00:28:17] sometimes not, you will know as well what the
[00:28:21] bpc is like
[00:28:22] in in in in Britain, you it's hard to say that
[00:28:26] they are void of
[00:28:30] influence of of. towards their rulers
[00:28:34] and the the financiers so to speak,
[00:28:37] but it is, it is not a good idea
[00:28:40] to go through these measures.
[00:28:44] christina ravenson, thank you, thank
[00:28:47] you, that's over the show, our condolences of course to all those
[00:28:51] of you bereeved or affected by Washington's wars of aggression, we'll be back on Monday
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[00:29:46] I think that this um um hegemonic kind of
[00:29:49] mindset um is um deeply um
[00:29:53] within Donald Trump's personality um he think that the
[00:29:57] American of course is is is still the the greatest and most
[00:30:01] powerful country ' on the planet and and the United
[00:30:04] States according to his uh him and his followers
[00:30:08] has been short changed by it by his allies so it's
[00:30:12] now um incument upon him to change that uh by
[00:30:16] maximizing American's
[00:30:17] dominance.