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[00:00:13] of of
[00:00:24] on the ropes and its infrastructure being destroyed, the American administration
[00:00:27] makes an energy deal with Russia, while NATO Brass
[00:00:31] gathers in Kiev to assess the damage they have brought about. Also,
[00:00:35] can the Mecca Defense Alliance save the House of Saud? Is
[00:00:39] new order coming about in the Middle East? To
[00:01:03] the breaking news, um, an energy deal
[00:01:07] to bring
[00:01:07] of Russian diesel to the United States has been announced, um, the
[00:01:11] shagrin
[00:01:12] of of the Ukrainians and Europeans is obvious, it
[00:01:15] is a major
[00:01:17] of reversal of
[00:01:18] in sorts,
[00:01:19] of um, if anything it's a campaign gimmick, uh, it will
[00:01:22] have any kind of impact on diesel prices
[00:01:26] worldwide or in the United States remains to be unseen, but
[00:01:30] "my estimation, looking at the numbers, maximum,
[00:01:34] I mean going into next year, would
[00:01:37] of basically cover about
[00:01:38] of nine days of US consumption, now maybe on the
[00:01:41] margins it might help, but it's not a solution, the solution is to end this
[00:01:45] conflict, but that's
[00:01:49] yeah, so obviously this deal has been in the works for some
[00:01:54] of time, um, after the CIA director
[00:01:56] Daniel came to Moscow
[00:01:59] of with threat." "it was followed up by the uh Chuckle brothers
[00:02:03] of Witkoff and Kuschner who came to Moscow
[00:02:07] and uh asked for an energy
[00:02:10] ceastfire and Russia said no, and then well how about an energy
[00:02:14] ceastfire and Russia said no, well how about letting some
[00:02:18] debel
[00:02:18] in diesel onto the global markets, that that would play well with Trump's
[00:02:22] voters back home and Putin said tell
[00:02:26] me more. um so that appears to be..." what
[00:02:30] has happened? Trump is primarily
[00:02:32] of concerned here
[00:02:33] in with his political survival in the U.S. going into these
[00:02:36] mid-term elections, if the
[00:02:38] of democrats win, he could be facing impeachment battles for the next
[00:02:42] two years of his administration, and he's rightly
[00:02:45] terrified of that, so um, he
[00:02:49] needs to
[00:02:51] of ameliate, or at
[00:02:52] of least appear to ameliorate the sharp rise in
[00:02:55] diesel prices in the US, which is leading to
[00:02:59] prices of general inflation across the US
[00:03:02] economy, of course, Europe is being hit even harder
[00:03:06] of by all of this. um, and Russia, historically,
[00:03:10] of and in fact earlier this year, was still the second largest
[00:03:13] exporter of diesel to the world, but because of
[00:03:17] Kiev regime CIA attacks on Russia's oil
[00:03:21] refineries, uh, Russia felt the need
[00:03:24] to um uh ban exports of diesel
[00:03:28] for several months to make sure they
[00:03:30] of had enough for their own domestic uses going into harvest season and
[00:03:34] of course for the special military operation. um,
[00:03:38] but now uh with uh Trump's request that
[00:03:42] Putin
[00:03:42] of has
[00:03:43] of acceded to, Russia has agreed to partially lift that
[00:03:46] of of ban. I agree, it's most of this
[00:03:49] of diesel is not going to go to the US, it's going to be released to the global markets, this is
[00:03:53] for optics, this is for optics
[00:03:55] and what's the quid pro
[00:03:59] qu, what? did the Russians get out of it,
[00:04:01] of George? Well, it's very hard to say, I mean, I, I think
[00:04:05] one obvious uh, win for the Russians is
[00:04:09] Trump's real fury, directed
[00:04:13] first to against Ukraine, in
[00:04:15] a general and Zelensky in
[00:04:17] of particular, of but also against the Europeans, because these are
[00:04:21] looking really very foolish, uh,
[00:04:23] you know, they say sanction, sanction, we're going to put more pressure on
[00:04:27] Putin, you
[00:04:28] no, it's the only way we can get Putin
[00:04:29] in on the neg'. waiting table and so on, I remember just few weeks
[00:04:33] ago they were all rejoicing over the the
[00:04:37] passage
[00:04:37] of the Lindsay Graham sanctions bill, well
[00:04:40] of this kind of makes that look
[00:04:43] absurd, so that I think is very much a part
[00:04:47] of it, in other words with zelenski
[00:04:50] immediately announced that he will continue to
[00:04:54] attack refineries, now it was clear during the
[00:04:57] meeting that Zelensky and Europeans that had in
[00:05:01] Miami with Kuschner and
[00:05:04] Witkov is that they with Zelensky was
[00:05:08] told don't hit
[00:05:11] of refineries and and and Trump then said this, we've said that we've told Zelensky over
[00:05:15] and over again, don't hit the refiners, six times,
[00:05:19] George,
[00:05:19] I think six times, six times and and then yes of course it is
[00:05:23] true that it was Trump who initially thought this was be a wizard
[00:05:27] idea to hit refineries in Russia, that was back in
[00:05:30] 2025, he he he was
[00:05:32] the he personally gave the go ahead, but now he he he needs
[00:05:36] some kind of a break, now the real question, what do the Russians get out of it, well
[00:05:40] if this antagonism... between the US and
[00:05:44] Ukraine continues, then they may get something
[00:05:48] out of this,
[00:05:49] that that I mean
[00:05:49] that is, this is a little different from what happened in
[00:05:53] February of 2025 following that Acremonious
[00:05:55] oval office meeting, this time at Trump
[00:05:59] is his back is against the wall, then he was kind of
[00:06:02] exuberant returning to office, his back is against the
[00:06:06] wall, he may actually, at least that's the Russian
[00:06:09] calculation, he may decide finally to bring this. thing to an
[00:06:13] end and end the key part end the intelligence
[00:06:17] sharing with Ukraine, that is that came up, that came up
[00:06:21] in the meetings a threat to Zelensky, knock it
[00:06:24] off or there won't be any intelligence sharing, my take,
[00:06:28] Mark at the end the day is the number one, the Ukrainians
[00:06:32] are humiliated, the Europeans are
[00:06:35] humiliated, and the administ American administration is
[00:06:39] humiliated because can Donald Trump tell... CIA
[00:06:43] to stop helping the Ukrainians? It looks like me like there's
[00:06:47] there's only one winner on all of this and I don't
[00:06:50] know according to some reports and we're living in the fog of
[00:06:54] war of so much fake news right now, a tanker already suddenly arrived
[00:06:58] in the United States, I don't know if that's true, but I tend to think by
[00:07:02] this time next week we're
[00:07:03] not even going to be talking about this, Mark. Yeah, the
[00:07:07] whole thing smacks of rather maliforous
[00:07:10] political theater to
[00:07:15] because if Trump is really
[00:07:18] furious over
[00:07:20] continued, low level, but but still
[00:07:24] annoying attacks on Russia's oil refineries, including one
[00:07:28] on Rostof Nadano since uh
[00:07:31] this deal was announced, he ought to be
[00:07:35] furious at Trump, because the K
[00:07:38] simply lacks the military and technical capabilities to...
[00:07:42] out these attacks without active CIA help, and we know that
[00:07:46] because the CIA, under Trump has bragged about it on the front
[00:07:50] pages the New York Times and the Washington Post on multiple
[00:07:54] occasions about how they are not only providing
[00:07:58] intelligence, but directing these attacks down to the
[00:08:01] point of directing which part the
[00:08:04] refineries the drones attack to cause the maximum
[00:08:08] amount of downtime before Russians uh repair it.
[00:08:12] so I I think Trump ought to really be furious at
[00:08:16] himself or at least at his director the CIA,
[00:08:19] and you raise the question, does Trump actually
[00:08:23] have power within the United States government to change
[00:08:27] US, he
[00:08:28] did in his first administration, we all know that and it's well
[00:08:32] documented, you know, George, um, another story that didn't get
[00:08:35] in much much air time because there's so much going on right now,
[00:08:39] but um, the military heads of uh single
[00:08:42] NATO country, I don't know if the US and participated, went
[00:08:46] went to Kiev, what would they talk about? I mean, this
[00:08:50] is like four and a half, almost five years in, I mean, wouldn't you think they'd do
[00:08:54] that in the beginning the conflict, and what expertise do
[00:08:58] any these generals have in fighting a
[00:09:01] war? I don't think anything right now, I mean, what a
[00:09:05] waste of tax payer money, which is probably the calling card of this
[00:09:09] entire conflict in the west, George, well, I think the... trying
[00:09:13] to express solidarity, mean that's
[00:09:15] what that
[00:09:24] the europeans responded to trump's
[00:09:27] announcement the the diesel deal,
[00:09:31] enraged comments from Andy Burnham,
[00:09:35] from from the EU, kayak jalas and
[00:09:39] said, well, their response, we're going even intensive. by the
[00:09:42] sanctions, we're going to meet on Monday and we're going to hit
[00:09:46] Russia with the harshest sanctions ever, every every sanction packet
[00:09:50] is the harshest ever, so it's all of this
[00:09:54] is expecial solidarity, but to go going back to Mark's
[00:09:58] point, i think that is very good question, how much control
[00:10:01] does Trump have over his own administration, he says
[00:10:05] over and over again and he's been saying it for a long time, no strikes on
[00:10:09] refineries, and then they continue, i would assume Trump
[00:10:13] does want to stop the attacks from the refineries because the diesel
[00:10:16] prices are hurting him, I mean no question, they are really
[00:10:19] hurting America's farmers, he says, he says this in
[00:10:23] truth the truth. "our farmers and ranchers are are
[00:10:27] in pain, so therefore you assume he wants this uh
[00:10:31] stop, but he obviously he doesn't have the power to do so, or
[00:10:35] he may be afraid, he may be afraid of uh
[00:10:38] defying the the hidden state
[00:10:41] or the the deep state, because otherwise
[00:10:44] you know, mean it is case, if you want to stop these
[00:10:48] refineries, you have to get Radciff into your office and tell him,
[00:10:51] don't do it or you're fired, but trump doesn't..." to do
[00:10:55] that, yeah, Mark, I mean, if if uh, the United States
[00:10:59] and and Russia can come to deal on diesel, why can't they come to
[00:11:02] de to deal on other things? I mean, there's a
[00:11:06] precedent here right now, I mean, I thought this war was supposed to be
[00:11:10] over before Trump was inaugurated for the second
[00:11:13] time, I
[00:11:14] mean it, it just, it just shows an enormous inability of
[00:11:17] leadership, Mark, yeah, um, I, I don't, I think actually the
[00:11:21] US president always has very limited.
[00:11:25] with uh agency and power over US foreign and
[00:11:29] military policy, it's largely written in the orthodoxy the
[00:11:33] institutions that comprise the US government. if
[00:11:36] you don't want to call it the deep state, you want to call it the blob as ben roads
[00:11:40] did or the purement of bureaucracy, that's fine, but at the end the
[00:11:44] day John Bolton was very clear about how Trump is
[00:11:47] manipulated and controlled on such things in his
[00:11:51] memoirs of his time in the first administration, you come and you put present
[00:11:55] set of policy options that aren't really very different from
[00:11:59] each other and you say you choose a, b, c, and d, none
[00:12:03] the above is not an option, and that's that's the way you control,
[00:12:07] let's face it, rather ignorant president in
[00:12:10] particular, who gets his news from fox news like Donald
[00:12:14] Trump, but as for the NATO generals, their big
[00:12:17] expertise is as dogs, they are there as a
[00:12:21] symbolic to urinate and mark over...
[00:12:25] Ukraine as their territory, we flipped this country in
[00:12:29] 2014, and you're not going to get it back, they
[00:12:32] said immediately after the Russian foreign
[00:12:35] ministry put out a declaration for
[00:12:39] the second time that Western and all foreign
[00:12:42] diplomatic missions should leave Kiev because it's
[00:12:45] no longer safe. That was their show of defiance and
[00:12:48] symbolic support that Ukraine is de facto NATO
[00:12:52] territory, but we'll see about that.
[00:13:02] being pummeled right now, night after night after night, again i why
[00:13:06] did these NATO generals code there, I mean
[00:13:08] um, they can call it theirs, but they can't defend it, I mean
[00:13:12] it, it it's a force on so many different levels, finish up,
[00:13:16] Mark, George, go ahead, well, it is being pummeled, and you
[00:13:20] would think the the rational thing to do would be
[00:13:24] bring this. to an end um because it is
[00:13:27] Ukrainians who are getting killed, but that's not the way they're thinking, they want
[00:13:31] this to continue, the the and that's why all their
[00:13:35] blustery statements that come out of Europe is
[00:13:39] we need to keep this going for you
[00:13:42] indefinitely without ever presenting
[00:13:45] any coherent peace plan or anything at all other
[00:13:49] than well Russia must essentially call for
[00:13:53] immediate cfy. other words a capitulation, so yeah, but
[00:13:57] Georgia, don't you think also, I mean to finish off here, I mean, it's very
[00:14:01] interesting this, the the European position is to spite the Russians
[00:14:04] and equally spite the president the United
[00:14:08] States, I cannot see how that's a winning strategy, all right, gentlemen, I'm going to
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[00:15:38] because as you and I noted before uh we conven here today there's an
[00:15:42] enormous amount of conflicting information and I must say from some
[00:15:46] sources that I tended to trust and now trust a
[00:15:49] lot less because there there seems to be uh
[00:15:53] um um top dollars out there when it comes to uh
[00:15:57] trying to uh manipulate um how people perceive the the
[00:16:01] conflict the multiple conflicts going on now in Saudi Arabia
[00:16:05] Yemen and of course the US Israeli war against
[00:16:08] Iran, what is going on here in do the Mecca
[00:16:12] Alliance pact here have any meaning whatsoever? is that just more
[00:16:16] fog of war? mark? yeah, um, Saudi Arabia is getting pummaled
[00:16:20] too um by the Ansar Allah movement, the
[00:16:24] Houtis and Saudi infrastructure and Saudi
[00:16:27] airports uh have been hit repeatedly uh
[00:16:31] over uh the last two weeks uh and most recently
[00:16:35] the east-west uh oil pipeline uh to
[00:16:39] the red sea uh that is Saudi Arabia's
[00:16:42] bypass uh uh over the straight of hor
[00:16:46] moves um that has been hit for the second time taking out
[00:16:50] another uh pumping station and stopping flow of that pipeline
[00:16:54] again for the second time uh a month
[00:16:57] uh and the refineries have been hit again and again uh
[00:17:01] also on the ground the hoothis continue to press
[00:17:05] and take uh uh territory uh
[00:17:08] from the saudi proxy regime in Yemen. Now this
[00:17:12] war has history, right? It's been going on for over
[00:17:16] decade, it entered into a frozen phase uh, and
[00:17:20] it has now reignited after Saudi Arabia's attack
[00:17:24] on Yemen's airport in Sana, but it's
[00:17:27] best understood now in the context of a subset
[00:17:31] the US-Israeli war on Iran, right, because
[00:17:35] Saudi Arabia, a proxy the... united states and the hoothies here, if you want to
[00:17:39] call them a a proxy of Iran uh, but Saudi Arab, the
[00:17:43] US can't defend Saudi Arabia just like it can't
[00:17:46] defend uh Keyev uh from these long distance attacks
[00:17:50] because it has it's achilles heel has always been air
[00:17:54] defense um so the saudis have looked
[00:17:58] really everywhere right they've been trying to bring in the French of promised to send
[00:18:02] troops now they're turning to their new Mecca defense alliance with
[00:18:05] Pakistan and Turkey. and it's unclear um
[00:18:09] both them have sent troops to Saudi Arabia to stand
[00:18:13] around and pretend to um uh provide air
[00:18:17] defense. well let me let
[00:18:27] pact, but my theory the case
[00:18:30] is it's not necessarily to protect Saudi Arabia, it
[00:18:34] is to protect NBS in the royal family that... what their mission
[00:18:38] is, it's defensive, and Mark and I again, before we convene
[00:18:42] here or uh commenting on um uh the
[00:18:46] reports that Pakistan was using its air force against the unsar law,
[00:18:50] which I alarm bells went off with Mark and with me and I said no,
[00:18:54] that's not possible, it looks like it's not here, their mission
[00:18:57] is um to protect the existing order in
[00:19:00] Saudi Arabia, which depending on who you want to ask, Chas
[00:19:04] Friedman, former ambassador uh to Saudi
[00:19:08] Arabia, and I thought it was an interesting insight, he
[00:19:11] said, um, people have been predicting the end of Saudi Arabia since
[00:19:14] 1934, so we should keep that into perspective, but then
[00:19:18] nonetheless, the the the current royal family is not
[00:19:22] necessarily the the the favorite topic the month in Saudi Arabia itself,
[00:19:26] if you can't defend the country, what right do you have to rule,
[00:19:29] George? Well, I think it is very good point that Saudi
[00:19:32] Arabia's demise has been predicted many, many times, I
[00:19:36] mean it's it's... uh, it it just seems like
[00:19:40] such an unstable uh structure. what is
[00:19:44] remarkable though is that Saudi Arabia actually has
[00:19:48] very powerful military, it has very large armed forces,
[00:19:51] it's been trained for years and years by
[00:19:55] western uh military advisers, pakistan has
[00:19:58] been present in Saudi Arabia really for decades, I mean
[00:20:02] this going back to the 1960s, in fact I think there are some
[00:20:06] Pakistanis serving in the uh the Saudi armed forces, well
[00:20:10] isn't that just the point, George, it's a for foreigners fighting for Saudi
[00:20:13] Arabia, but it's foreigner, well that that's right, and and but you see
[00:20:17] in terms the numbers, you think, well that's quite a quite a sizeable
[00:20:21] army that Saudi Arabia has and it has up to date
[00:20:25] very sophisticated military equipment, I mean it's getting military equipment from the United
[00:20:29] States, gets military equipment from Britain from France it is
[00:20:32] very large, very well equipped
[00:20:34] military. "there's an
[00:20:38] image that is still in my mind, Mark is
[00:20:41] a unsarof fighter wearing sandals with
[00:20:45] one arm firing at forces, mean
[00:20:49] these people"
[00:20:56] how much money Saudi Arabia spends on military, of course they do, they actually pay a
[00:21:00] premium, um, but Mark, at the end the day, that's
[00:21:04] what's got in Saudi Arabia out of trouble is always they can pay somebody off,
[00:21:08] they've always got money to to um to to right away
[00:21:11] its worries, that's not the case now, and they're not getting
[00:21:15] any cash, and as matter of fact, they're looking for international loans, so
[00:21:19] money... isn't going to buy them out of this
[00:21:28] hail the fighters, the fremmen the Middle East. Saudi Arabia couldn't
[00:21:31] defeat uh, the the you know,
[00:21:34] the the flip, whether they've got flip flops or not, the lucky ones do, I guess,
[00:21:38] they couldn't defeat them in more than decade, and I don't think they can defeat them now, and you're
[00:21:41] right, their money can't buy them out of that. It's true that on
[00:21:45] paper, Saudi Arabia has rather powerful military with lots
[00:21:49] of... hardware from the US and other western countries, but
[00:21:53] in reality corruption is rife uh and
[00:21:57] the Saudi military tends to be a place
[00:22:01] where uh saudi uh shall we say nobility gets
[00:22:05] to reside uh in places of semi uh
[00:22:08] importance but but don't really have any military command
[00:22:12] authority or experience
[00:22:14] i think the Saudi military lacks a warrior ethos and
[00:22:17] certainly lacks any real experience
[00:22:21] uh, so I i have some real questions, which is why they've relied
[00:22:25] mostly on mercenaries uh in Yemen for more than
[00:22:29] decade that do not perform well uh, and why they're now
[00:22:33] looking outside, if the US can no longer provide
[00:22:36] security them, they're trying to learn to other other actors,
[00:22:40] and it's true, they've long had a strategic partnership with Pakistan,
[00:22:44] it's widely rumored that they financed uh Pakistan's nuclear
[00:22:48] program and that Pakistan. keep some nukes in reserve for
[00:22:52] them uh, and there's an open question of whether Pakistan is
[00:22:56] participating in this or not, the New York Times reported they were,
[00:22:59] and then they took back the story when the Pakistan government
[00:23:03] vociferously denied it. Uh, so as far as we know, they're just
[00:23:06] standing around in Saudi Arabia along with the Turks
[00:23:10] pretending to provide air defense, which they're not capable of doing
[00:23:14] anymore than the Americans, but Erdogan in
[00:23:17] Turkey, the cunning beast uh... while he has said he will
[00:23:21] not participate uh attacks on Ansar
[00:23:25] Allah, which is you know where the real fighting is, you, I mean, this
[00:23:29] is a war in Yemen with Yemen taking some strikes back against
[00:23:32] Saudi Arabia, uh, Erdogan evidently has been
[00:23:36] calling on, and the Saudis as well, on uh uh
[00:23:40] Erdogan's pet al-qaeda leader ruling over the ruins
[00:23:44] of Syria, al-gilani, al Shara, and he's got another
[00:23:48] 10 or 20, spare jihadi head shoppers that he could
[00:23:52] send off uh to fight the hoothis and i think that's what's being
[00:23:56] negotiated yeah but you're talking about is the horizontal
[00:24:00] expansion of this war and george remarkably remarkably
[00:24:04] donald trump is very upset about the the the attacks
[00:24:08] on Saudi Arabia's airports and uh he's
[00:24:11] um pondering whether what to do meaning getting involved
[00:24:15] itself mean we had that with the biting administration we had that
[00:24:19] in the... beginning the Trump administration, they want to do it
[00:24:22] again?
[00:24:39] well, Trump has already twice said no to Saudi in
[00:24:43] treaties to bomb the hoothies,
[00:24:47] he mumbled that he may get involved. after the the
[00:24:51] attack on the read airport, but it was just mumble and he just he said,
[00:24:54] yeah, maybe we'll think about it, didn't sound like a commitment
[00:24:58] to do anything, so I have my doubts that he is actually going to do
[00:25:02] something, um, but I think the the case with Turkey and
[00:25:06] Pakistan is, they have made absolutely clear everyone to to
[00:25:09] the Saudis, we are here defensively, in others we will
[00:25:13] defend you here in Saudi Arabia, we are
[00:25:17] not going to engage any kind.
[00:25:31] maybe as you said at the beginning that it's all about trying to
[00:25:34] protect uh mbs
[00:25:36] and the the government in Riad but in the case of Turkey I mean they
[00:25:40] said well first of all the the Mecca defense back hasn't
[00:25:43] yet been ratified by the the parliament have you read it
[00:25:47] george have you seen it has anybody read? does anybody know what's in
[00:25:51] it?
[00:25:52] i don't think so, i think it's been released. yeah, that's right, and so
[00:25:56] so therefore, and turkey, turkey really does not want
[00:25:59] to
[00:26:00] get into any kind of offensive. "they don't want to
[00:26:03] antagonize Iran, they made clear that they don't want to antagonize
[00:26:07] Iran. Also, Turkey is rival of Saudi Arabias
[00:26:10] in as leader the Islamic world. I mean, that
[00:26:14] is very much Erdogan's program that it's
[00:26:17] Turkey, not Saudi Arabia, that's the leader the Islamic world, so
[00:26:21] there's no love loss between Turkey and Saudi Arabia, he's not going to
[00:26:25] antagonize Iran uh, for the sake of
[00:26:28] this, the government in Riat, and Pakistan is just..."
[00:26:32] "we're not really going much beyond what we do here, which is we're going to
[00:26:35] station some forces uh in Saudi Arabia,
[00:26:39] but we're not going to send them into any kind of combat role. you
[00:26:43] mark, the the kingdom of Saudi Arabia is just very much unloved in the
[00:26:47] world, isn't it? it it doesn't
[00:26:51] have many friends, it has lots of customers.
[00:26:54] um, in fact, you could argue, you could make you the
[00:26:58] argument that Russia has really one the best business-like
[00:27:02] relation." relationships despite long geopolitical
[00:27:05] differences in Syria and their cooperation on
[00:27:09] OPEC plus has continued and performed
[00:27:13] much better than most the
[00:27:14] of critics uh said it was, but I agree with
[00:27:18] with George, that the real problem here is the
[00:27:21] horizontal expansion of this conflict, always
[00:27:25] spreading outside Iran and bringing in more and more
[00:27:29] players, whatever their specific role, it also makes it much
[00:27:33] harder to end because Pakistan has been serving as
[00:27:36] a supposed mediator right um the
[00:27:40] US and Iran now how and the US has also
[00:27:44] attempted to subvert Oman over the past few months
[00:27:47] which was also playing mediating role now how can there be
[00:27:51] mediation between the US and Iran to end this conflict
[00:27:55] if both of those countries are being drawn into the
[00:27:58] conflict which makes the ending of it even more.
[00:28:02] difficult and improbable, well
[00:28:06] again we go back to the the origin story on
[00:28:09] February 28th, could anyone, well I think if we were
[00:28:13] asked, what would be the implications of it, I think we would have said,
[00:28:17] well it could easily spread, okay, it could bring
[00:28:21] a lot of people and you would be very difficult to control
[00:28:24] if not nearly impossible to end, but that's
[00:30:21] Donald Trump announces the cease fire on energy infrastructure
[00:30:25] between Moscow and Keeve just day after saying Ukraine
[00:30:29] needs a new leader. A while Russia has yet to come.
[00:30:32] Vladimir Zelensky is caught
[00:30:34] by surprise saying that Kiev will agree if
[00:30:38] Moscow does the same. The
[00:30:41] Europeans have given the Russians more money,
[00:30:45] they since the start of this war then they have given the Ukrainians because they
[00:30:49] cannot win themselves off Russian energy.
[00:30:53] Washington blast the EU's hypocrisy over Russian energy
[00:30:57] imports as German opposition officials.