RT — Sanchez Effect 20261012 183000 UTC 494 transcript segments Google Speech-to-Text API Automatic Transcription (Chirp) Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:35] Okay, so this is what you need to know about today. First of all, Trump just came out and he [00:00:39] just said this about Zelensky. [00:00:42] Watch, that's a war that should have never started, [00:00:46] and I think it's time for Ukraine to get new president. Wow, [00:00:50] time for Ukraine to get new president, is that crazy to [00:00:53] of say or is it the truth about [00:00:55] of what uven the people inside Ukraine are actually [00:00:58] thinking? foreign secretary lease trusts and [00:01:02] uh she told him that Britain's aim was for the war [00:01:06] continue for as long as possible to bleed out the Russians. [00:01:10] The price of this brave warding is actually the nation of Ukraine. [00:01:14] The price is the nation of Ukraine and the Ukrainian [00:01:17] people, is is that what the actual uh [00:01:21] real [00:01:22] and and and growing [00:01:23] of national sentiment is these days in Ukraine? Well, if it is, [00:01:27] apparently nobody in the western media knows about it because... Look at how this [00:01:30] reporter has you has the Zelensky on and then [00:01:34] defends him with this [00:01:37] of question. It's not just President Trump, we also heard from [00:01:40] Elon Musk saying Zelensky has gone too [00:01:44] far. Why are they blaming you for the [00:01:47] continuation of this [00:01:48] of war? Why are they blaming you, Mother Teresa? You've [00:01:52] never done anything [00:02:18] there is headlining the fact that Mr. Putin and Mr. Trump got together and they did [00:02:21] this diesel deal, and then Trump smacked Zelensky [00:02:25] down again with big smackdown, right, and look, I'm not saying [00:02:29] that's not..." a big deal, I'm not saying that's not noteworthy, I'm not saying it's not newsworthy, [00:02:33] obviously is, but I [00:02:48] something which is the complete opposite of that cooperation, you see, well [00:02:52] everybody else was talking about the smackdown and the deal, Russia's [00:02:55] data [00:02:56] of centers were being bombed, three [00:02:59] in of them, and them did quite a significant amount of damage, this [00:03:03] drone attack at the [00:03:04] of main [00:03:05] of yandex facility in Sassovo, knocked out [00:03:09] two Russian supercomputers, so just think [00:03:12] of about it right, while the United States president was doing a [00:03:16] diesel deal with Moscow in [00:03:18] in Miami, my hometown, somebody else in the United States was [00:03:22] bombing Russia's data [00:03:35] goes back to the question I asked Mr. Putin when I met with him [00:03:39] in valday, listen, you've talked about Minsk, [00:03:43] you were ready to deal, you've talked about Istanbul, you were ready to [00:03:46] deal, we've talked about anchorage, you [00:03:49] I think had deal or a compromise that you were all but ready to [00:03:53] agree to, and uh, in all of those instances you seem to be [00:03:57] turned down, [00:03:58] of so my question is, given how many times sir, you have been turned down, [00:04:02] and given what's going on right now in this conflict, why should you [00:04:06] negotiate? after this question, i don't [00:04:10] have to answer, i know he's trying to be funny [00:04:14] there, but president is actually kind of reflective [00:04:18] right of what [00:04:19] of he really thinks, think in that one moment, in the immediacy [00:04:22] of the moment as he was listening to my question, what [00:04:24] he seem to be asking himself is, yeah, [00:04:28] why do i [00:04:29] a continue to negotiate with these people, that's kind of what I think he was [00:04:33] saying, no, and so here's the [00:04:36] of question, who is hitting Russia's data [00:04:39] centers as the president of Russia and the [00:04:42] of president [00:04:42] of the United States are shaking hands a deal? It's kind of weird [00:04:46] right, the likely answer [00:04:48] of is this guy, see this guy right here, that's Google's former [00:04:52] CEO Eric Schmidt, you're wondering why is the [00:04:56] former CEO of Google have anything to do with this, well by no small coincidence. [00:05:00] This guy is now managing part of Ukraine's drone attacks against [00:05:03] Russia, right? And he just, [00:05:07] of and he's now hitting Russia's data centers. [00:05:10] Google, makes sense, right? "listen to what he said [00:05:14] year ago, listen to what he said year ago about what [00:05:17] may need to be done in the future so [00:05:21] that the US and its western [00:05:24] allies can continue to have complete [00:05:28] dominance over artificial intelligence in the [00:05:31] future. so what am I going to do? the [00:05:34] first, the first thing I'm going to do is try to steal all your [00:05:38] code, and you've prevented that cuuse you're good, and you you were good." So [00:05:42] so you're still good at google, second, then I'm going to [00:05:46] infiltrate you with humans, well you've got good protections against that, we don't have [00:05:50] spies, so what do I do, I'm going to [00:05:54] go in and I'm going to change your model, I'm going to modify it, I'm going to [00:05:57] actually screw you up to get me so I'm one day ahead of you, and [00:06:01] you're so good I can't do that, what's my next choice, [00:06:05] bomb your data center, wow, now do you think [00:06:09] I'm insane, these... are [00:06:13] occurring around nuclear opponents today in [00:06:17] our world, there are legitimate people saying the only [00:06:20] solution to this problem is preemption, nuclear [00:06:24] opponents, i wonder who he's talking about, let me [00:06:28] see, china, russia, oh, and whose [00:06:32] data centers were bombed, his word, last [00:06:36] night, and the night before, and the night before [00:06:38] that, he said it year [00:06:42] ago and... and it happened, I don't know, [00:06:46] so while Trump is doing a deal with Mr. Putin for diesel, the administrative [00:06:50] state, guys like this, the people who really run the United States of [00:06:53] America, are literally bombing [00:06:56] Russia, of course using Ukraine as a proxy and saying [00:07:00] they did it, they didn't do it, so just by the way, [00:07:04] here's here's a great question that I want you to think about, does Trump even [00:07:07] know that this is going on, does does he even know this [00:07:11] happened? "you know, I don't know, maybe [00:07:15] not. I mean, that's how crazy things are in the United [00:07:19] States right now. Uh, but of course the big story [00:07:22] was, as I mentioned at the beginning, Mr. Trump making this comment about Mr. [00:07:26] Zelensky, that really did go around the world in like half a [00:07:30] minute. Listen to it. We said you can do [00:07:34] whatever you want to Russia, don't hit the refineries, because that's a [00:07:37] world problem that's caused, and he wants to make problems [00:07:41] for the world." "he wants to make problems for our farmers, our renchers. [00:07:45] That's a war that should have never started, and I think it's time for [00:07:49] Ukraine to get new president. I think it's time for [00:07:52] Ukraine to get new president. Yeah, [00:07:56] wow, hell, right? The US president saying he [00:07:59] is done with uh, with him, done with Zelensky, [00:08:03] wants him out, wants to work with somebody else, not [00:08:07] Zelensky, they need new president, so by [00:08:11] the way, here here's..." as expected by the [00:08:15] way, you can set your clock by it, so what happened right after [00:08:18] Mr. Trump said that? well, as [00:08:22] expected, Zelensky went running, [00:08:25] you know, to his [00:08:28] enablers, a, the western media, [00:08:32] American media, for example, those elites who [00:08:35] think that Zelensky walks on [00:08:38] water, and be the European [00:08:41] elites. the politicians who treat this guy like he's [00:08:45] Churchill, so Zelensky's first stop was [00:08:49] ABC News, they're horrible uh, watch and [00:08:53] listen to how this reporter or reporter want to [00:08:57] be, who, like many in the US media, probably has a [00:09:00] Ukrainian flag hanging in his office, look how he [00:09:04] frames this question to Zelensky. It's not just [00:09:08] President Trump, we also heard from Elon Musk saying [00:09:11] Zelensky. has gone too far, why are they [00:09:15] blaming you for the continuation of this war? [00:09:19] can you imagine talk about giving yourself away? why [00:09:23] are they blaming you, you wonderful sweet [00:09:26] man, you've never done anything wrong in your entire [00:09:30] life, you're such a good guy, you [00:09:33] shouldn't do this, this is terrible, [00:09:37] mean, didn't that sound like that? this is a [00:09:41] perfect example of why the american people are [00:09:45] so stupid when it comes to anything outside their own [00:09:48] borders, because they've got idiots like this in the media, and [00:09:52] by the way, the BBC does it too, and [00:09:55] and and lamon does it too, but they feed them this kind of [00:09:58] stupid stuff, I mean, listen, [00:10:02] listen again to how this question is is [00:10:06] posed [00:10:07] to to frame Zelensky as if he's mother teresa, play it again, [00:10:10] jean, President Trump, we also heard from [00:10:14] Elon Musk saying Zelensky has gone too [00:10:18] far, why are they blaming you for the [00:10:21] continuation [00:10:22] of this war? does this guy know what's going? in this war? has he [00:10:26] does he? mean, does he watch anything other than CNN? i don't [00:10:30] know. let's see, should we talk about the [00:10:33] provocation that maybe caused Russia to get [00:10:37] involved in this thing? never mind that, never mind that [00:10:41] Zelansky ran as a peace candidate and then took tons [00:10:45] of money to become something very different. [00:10:49] never mind that for at least the last five months, maybe six months, [00:10:53] Ukraine has been lobbing. attacking [00:10:56] you know uh drones and [00:10:59] killing civilians in Russia and hitting [00:11:03] civilian infrastructure. I mean, I think that's been in the news right? I guess not [00:11:06] in the United States. Nevermind that there are [00:11:10] huge corruption scandals, there's one going on right now. [00:11:14] Nevermind the fact that Mr. Zelensky is being incentivized, we [00:11:18] know this and the people around him to the tune of hundreds of [00:11:21] billions of dollars to continue the war. not to [00:11:25] stop, not to come up with deal, to continue the war. never [00:11:29] mind that he's already turned down three, viiable [00:11:33] peace deals. three, never mind any [00:11:37] of that. the real question here is, oh [00:11:41] my god, why are they blaming you, you sweet, wonderful, [00:11:44] gorgeous little man, you're so [00:11:47] innocent. [00:11:52] it's crazy, meanwhile leader. in France and Britain [00:11:56] and Finland and Norway and Poland and Germany all boom [00:11:59] immediately reached out to Zolensky, they called him on the [00:12:02] phone, offering a shoulder so he can come and [00:12:05] cry on that [00:12:07] shoulder, and then there's the EU's [00:12:10] Kiakalis, she said she would oppose Mr. Trump's [00:12:14] deal with Russia because it helps [00:12:16] Russia, that's literally what she said, [00:12:20] this is crazy, it'll help Russia, well yeah, that's that's how deals work, [00:12:24] when when... when you have something you need in business, you do deal [00:12:28] with somebody and both benefit from it, they have something you want, you [00:12:32] do deal, you, and and and that I don't, Mrs. Callice doesn't [00:12:36] understand that, I guess, it's too sophisticated a concept [00:12:39] for her brain, this is woman not exactly [00:12:43] known for her sophisticated ideas, right, and [00:12:47] she also has like [00:12:48] a vinegar like hatred of Russia, and it knows no [00:12:51] bounds, which is fine, I mean, you're f. [00:12:55] everybody's allowed to hate whoever the hell they want to hate. the question [00:12:59] is, is it good for the people of Europe? of course [00:13:02] it's not, of course it's not. just [00:13:14] are now gonna get cheap diesel, while European [00:13:18] farmers and businesses are going to get [00:13:20] screwed, right? that's it, that's the story a [00:13:24] nutshell. and right about the same time, Ursela [00:13:28] Vanderlion delivers her state the Union speech at the [00:13:31] EU and says that the Europeans under [00:13:35] her leadership are now economically so much [00:13:39] better off than they were before, really here, [00:13:42] listen, if I look at Europe today, [00:13:46] I would say the state of our union is the [00:13:50] strongest it has ever been, and a stronger, [00:13:54] more... Europe is now emerging, that [00:13:58] is a Europe that is securing its prosperity, one that is [00:14:02] breaking free from the toxic dependency on Russian fossil [00:14:05] fuels. Yeah, that's it, right? It's [00:14:09] crazy. She she's basically goes if you listen to the whole [00:14:13] thing, she's defending her decision to choose oil and gas from [00:14:16] the United States and from the Gulf countries, even though those [00:14:20] countries [00:14:21] by by the way, even though it's way more expensive, and now there's none of it. [00:14:25] 'there there is oil and gas to give her, especially when it comes [00:14:29] to diesel, and it's about to get worse because there's no end in sight for this [00:14:33] shortage, so so [00:14:35] what is she talking about again? uh, let's see, you get one [00:14:39] guess, yeah, you got it right, sanctioning Russia, we got [00:14:43] to punish Russia some more, ding, ding, ding, right, you are [00:14:46] correct, sir, it's kind of lunacy, [00:14:50] right, talk about a self-inflicted wound, not for her, [00:14:54] she doesn't give crab'. she's got a driver, she doesn't go pump her own [00:14:57] gas, but it's tough [00:14:59] for the people who live in Europe, it's got to be, I don't live there, but I mean I'm hearing [00:15:03] and reading the stories, it's no wonder that more than half [00:15:07] the people in in her own body, in the [00:15:10] EU, right, stood and applauded a couple of [00:15:14] years ago when a polish MEP stood up and said this [00:15:17] about Vanderlion, look, look what this woman from [00:15:21] Poland uh, this MEP said to Vanderlion back then. [00:15:37] previous term was huge mistake, and some people are still suffering the [00:15:41] consequences of that decision, you are the face of all the EU's [00:15:45] climate madness, which is leading to the fact that we, the Europeans are [00:15:48] becoming increasingly poorer, and you know what we think of your [00:15:52] European green [00:16:02] deal that uh Russia just did with the United States is going [00:16:06] to be worth about $7 billion. right away for Russia, boom, [00:16:09] right, by [00:16:11] the way, and and that's not that much for economy the size of Russia, but but then again it [00:16:15] isn't bad, and it also isn't bad for the United States consumers who are likely going to see [00:16:19] their diesel prices drop 20, 22 [00:16:22] cents, something like that, well again, European [00:16:26] consumers are going to continue to pay through the nose, [00:16:29] why? so that Vanderlaon and Ruta and all [00:16:33] these guys can help Mr. Zelensky, but here's the [00:16:37] question. that we have to ask, yeah, they may be [00:16:40] helping, he's loving it, more money, [00:16:43] more money, more money, right, [00:16:46] boom, boom, however, is that [00:16:49] hurting the ukrainian people, in the [00:16:52] end, yeah, the money is going to Ukraine, but is the average [00:16:56] Ukrainian being helped by this, listen to what Yulia [00:16:59] mendel over the weekend, I saw this, I wanted to share this with you, this is [00:17:03] Zelensky's former spokeswoman, you remember she was on with Tucker, and [00:17:06] she's... Again this time with Danny Davis, look what she has to say uh [00:17:10] to to Vanderlion and to Ruta and to Merts and to Macron and these [00:17:14] guys uh and other European elites who cow [00:17:18] tow to Zolensky. One [00:17:21] journalist met with uh at that [00:17:24] moment uh foreign secretary lease Trus [00:17:27] and she told him that Britain's aim was for [00:17:31] the war continue for as long as possible to bleed out the [00:17:35] Russians and "this is you know something [00:17:39] that is um very offensive for the Ukrainian people because the price of [00:17:43] this brave warding is actually the nation of Ukraine. I just [00:17:47] want to tell to your people, to to your [00:17:49] audience [00:17:51] that um, you know, if any western country, a western leader appeared in the [00:17:55] situation in which Ukraine is now, they would never never continue [00:17:59] the strategies that are failed and that do not work. She [00:18:03] paints a really horrible picture of what's going on right now [00:18:06] in uh..." Ukraine and you know by the way, when I say horrible picture of what's [00:18:10] going on in Ukraine, I mean this is not a game right, horrible for the people who are [00:18:14] actually living inside of that frame that she just [00:18:17] painted, but you know for the European [00:18:21] and uh the Americans and the elites who [00:18:25] make these decisions, she she just said it, she said it doesn't matter to them, they don't [00:18:28] care, right, the [00:18:31] the people of Ukraine don't matter to them because that is not [00:18:35] what this war is about. for them, that's pretty [00:18:39] clear, and sad. [00:18:43] good people in Ukraine joining us now to talk about this as ambassador, uh, Craig [00:18:47] Murray, he's a Scottish author, he's a human rights activist, [00:18:51] he's a blogger, known most of all for telling the truth about how the [00:18:54] British used in information that was obtained uh [00:18:58] using uh torture in uh [00:19:12] what you think of my assessment of what's going on right [00:19:16] now with the situation in Ukraine. it it does seem doesn't it? [00:19:19] like [00:19:20] the the Europeans are doing everything they possibly can to continue this [00:19:23] war without really thinking about the effect it's having, especially [00:19:27] on the Ukrainian people. i [00:19:31] think you have to understand that for the elite the war itself is the [00:19:34] point, they want for war to continue." they don't want it [00:19:38] to end, the billions of pounds of [00:19:42] profit being made out of this or huge amounts of money are [00:19:46] slushing around, that's huge amounts of money going to the [00:19:50] weapons manufacturers, huge amounts of money going to [00:19:53] security and intelligence contractors, and of course Ukraine is [00:19:57] probably the most corrupt country in the world, money [00:20:01] is being ripped off [00:20:04] uh, an extraordinary percentage. the [00:20:08] money that's been given by the European Union, the United Kingdom, United States [00:20:12] and others has simply been been stolen to the extent that we, [00:20:16] we've all seen countless pictures by now with beef [00:20:19] cases full of dollar bills, um, the [00:20:23] uh, you you have the deputy head the state [00:20:26] audits department in Ukraine flaunting a Lamborghini and the [00:20:30] Bentley, that's the [00:20:32] auditor, um, you [00:20:35] know, but... "this this is making huge amounts of [00:20:39] money, both in so-called legitimate ways and in obviously [00:20:43] illegitimate ways for the European elite, and at the same time it's [00:20:46] weakening Russia, because these people are rusophobic." " and and they [00:20:50] had that as a name as well, so they they just want the war to continue, they don't [00:20:54] want it to end, but comparatively speaking, it's not uh [00:20:58] weakening Russia, I mean I'm sure it is, anytime you're at war, your country [00:21:02] is is is going to be hurting, but the the numbers we just heard uh, Mr. [00:21:06] Mandel talk about a country of that used to have 50 million [00:21:10] people, now has 20 million people, a country that used to be this big is now this [00:21:14] big uh, I mean those things are not happening in Russia, as [00:21:17] matter of fact you know where the biggest mass population flow [00:21:21] of immigrants from Ukraine is now living, Russia, [00:21:25] right? Germany's two, Poland is three, [00:21:28] so the reason I'm posing [00:21:32] it this way and asking you this question, Mr. Ambassador, is you're right, they do [00:21:35] this because they make money off of war, but do they not have eyes, do they not [00:21:39] see the country is shrinking, do they not see the country is all about to [00:21:43] become something much smaller than what it used to be, and that the people in that [00:21:47] country [00:21:47] is are suffering, do they not see that? [00:21:51] "well they don't care, I mean they don't care at all, it does, it doesn't hurt the European [00:21:55] elite for the people of Ukraine to suffer, [00:21:59] um, that's the most important thing I [00:22:03] think to um get your headround in studying international [00:22:06] relations, but the idea that the uh western [00:22:10] elites work for the good to be ordinary people their countries [00:22:14] is just obviously wrong, they do things that are terribly [00:22:17] help hurtful to the ordinary people. their countries, [00:22:21] when Ukraine and and the United States blew up the north [00:22:25] stream pipeline, it caused direct, it [00:22:28] directly caused about half million unemployed people in [00:22:32] Germany for example, and yet the German government supported [00:22:36] it, first of all they pretended to believe it was the Russians that did [00:22:40] it, and [00:22:40] then even after it's now been plainly [00:22:44] established, but it was the Ukrainians that did it with American help, [00:22:48] the the German elite. still support it despite the [00:22:51] massive damage it did to the German [00:22:55] economy leading to total loss in German [00:22:58] GDP of five to six percent at least um and [00:23:02] they don't care but but they really don't the welfare the [00:23:06] ordinary people their countries isn't important to them what's important to [00:23:10] them is that the the rich can make money that that the [00:23:14] people control the politicians can make money and there's nothing [00:23:17] like a big war for making money. and you got [00:23:21] you know you're not just some guy who I invited [00:23:25] to my backyard barbecue spouting your [00:23:28] opinions you know this you you've worked inside the [00:23:32] system did you have do they [00:23:35] know that we know what they're doing and do they not [00:23:39] care I'm wondering when when you talk to your your fellow your [00:23:42] colleagues when you were there even maybe today if you reach out and talk to some [00:23:46] these guys do they know we figured this out? [00:23:52] think um part the difficulty is for the [00:23:56] percentage of a population who have figured it out though that percentage is [00:23:59] growing is still not the majority the population because of course [00:24:03] the same people also control uh the western media they [00:24:07] control the television channels they control the newspapers they control [00:24:11] hollywood the same people [00:24:12] have bought uh tik tok and facebook and [00:24:14] you there [00:24:18] is still a very large degree of narrative control, [00:24:22] and although [00:24:24] it it is true that there is a growing percentage of a population of seen through [00:24:27] it, that leave majority of people still haven't, the majority of people still [00:24:31] accept what they are, they are forced in effect every time [00:24:35] they turn on their television or radio or every time the look at social [00:24:38] media, so um they feel happily [00:24:42] and in control, and they they are worried [00:24:46] about about popular perception throughout all the western countries. [00:24:50] pretty well, there has been an epidemic of [00:24:54] limitation on freedom of speech, an epidemic of [00:24:57] authoritarian legislation, and so they they are [00:25:01] bringing in extra measures to control the population, that's true, [00:25:04] but by and large, the they are fairly confident in their [00:25:08] control the mechanisms of [00:25:10] narrative. I saw documentary [00:25:14] yesterday, I was bored, I've always wanted to know about this, [00:25:18] so I watched a documentary. about what the brits did [00:25:22] in Kenya with the mawow, and I was [00:25:25] flabbergasted, horrified watching this, [00:25:29] and not only what they did, but what they then very [00:25:33] carefully did to make sure that nobody knew that story, [00:25:37] and you know, I knew I was going to be interviewing you today, so I wanted to ask you about [00:25:41] that, buse I was, as I was watching that, I was thinking to myself, and I'll ask you the [00:25:44] question, has anything changed, I know that was [00:25:48] what the 50s, 60s. they did [00:25:50] that, [00:25:54] well nothing [00:25:55] has changed in the morality or lack of it the british elite, [00:25:58] but obviously what has changed is a bit and has [00:26:01] less. physical control across the globe now, but it is [00:26:04] astonishing the roots of how many [00:26:08] modern conflicts go back to British [00:26:11] imperialism, and there have [00:26:15] been conflicts in in Kenya [00:26:18] recently, in recent years, yeah, um, [00:26:21] which go back to British disposession the land, [00:26:25] bitten ethnically cleansed large areas of [00:26:29] Kenya to put in white farmers instead, and that... [00:26:32] caused um certain tribes to be moved from [00:26:36] their land cleared into urban areas where they became [00:26:40] in conflict with other tribes who were already there and that is [00:26:44] actually the direct cause of recent conflict in Kenya. If [00:26:48] you look at Yemen, it was a British [00:26:50] occupation of Aden and the south of Yemen [00:26:54] which caused an ident much the identity conflict between the north and south [00:26:58] of those countries, but the number of current. [00:27:03] conflic of course invented the very concept of Saudi [00:27:05] Arabia and installed the royal [00:27:08] family, the number of conflicts which go [00:27:12] directly back to the British empire and and [00:27:16] be sent you're right, we are not told of a crimes of British empire at [00:27:20] all, it's still portrayed as this rather beneficient [00:27:23] place civilizing and being [00:27:26] civilization to the natives in f [00:27:29] offlands, the truth is something much more... nasty and [00:27:33] vicious and [00:27:39] the you know, European [00:27:39] most countries, including the Brits, are condemning the [00:27:43] hoothies uh for the attacks on the Saudi [00:27:46] Airport etc. They've release statement, they've they've called the [00:27:50] actions the huties uh barbaric, and I'm thinking just like [00:27:54] the ma, the same thing they called the ma, the same thing they called a lot the [00:27:58] liberation groups in Africa when they went there and stole their land and raped [00:28:02] them. and killed them and chopped up their arms and everything, they said they were [00:28:06] the barbaric ones, what are you talking about, right? so I'm [00:28:09] I'm looking here to your point uh, Mr. Ambassador, [00:28:13] so the Brits and the Europeans are complaining about the Houties, I i think [00:28:17] the hoothis are kind of an honorable bunch, even though they do fight [00:28:21] wars and sandals, which I don't understand, [00:28:41] billion france, UK made 7 [00:28:45] billion dollars in arms sales to the uh [00:28:48] saudis, right? Germany, two billion, Spain, [00:28:52] two billion, so to your point, of course they're [00:28:56] calling the huti savages, they're they're bought and [00:29:00] sold by the other side. 'I think [00:29:04] that's that's true and and the extraordinary thing is that with this [00:29:07] incredible imbalance of weapons because the [00:29:11] um I think but those can't be all time totals because they've been [00:29:15] individual deals that have been bigger than the total you gave for the [00:29:19] UK for example this must be a recent [00:29:21] period and well this was during this was [00:29:25] during this was during the specific sorry I should have I should have clarified that [00:29:29] thank you though [00:29:30] for for for correcting me this was' only during the first [00:29:34] Saudi Yemen war that these numbers, they've gone probably above [00:29:38] that since then, yes, yeah, and they've gone way up [00:29:42] past that, and the amount, the total amount of weapons [00:29:45] the the anstal people have ever possessed, it's [00:29:49] probably 5% of that, [00:29:53] um, the, and yet the Saudis with all of [00:29:56] that firepower, all of that modern equipment are unable to [00:30:00] defeat them, and in fact continually... the the war [00:30:04] has been over 20 year period, [00:30:08] a continual process, the saudis losing ground, [00:30:12] because they may have all the weaponry and all the money, but they have [00:30:15] no belief in [00:30:17] the in their own cause, and i was doing a little research [00:30:21] yesterday, i was trying to tot up in the last 12 years [00:30:25] since anstal have controlled [00:30:28] the airports in senat, [00:30:32] found 27 different times for saudis have bombed [00:30:36] sanar airport and not on one of those 27 [00:30:40] times did the European Union condemn [00:30:44] this the Saudis for bombing sana airport which is a civilian [00:30:47] airport [00:30:49] nor nor nor did the BBC lead the lead the newscast [00:30:53] nor did the BBC lead their newscast with it I bet [00:30:56] right absolutely not no and