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[00:00:00] able to defeat them and in fact continually lose, the
[00:00:04] war has been over 20 year
[00:00:05] period, a
[00:00:08] of continual
[00:00:08] of process for saudis
[00:00:11] of losing ground, because they may have all the weaponry and all the money,
[00:00:15] but they have no belief in the in their own
[00:00:18] cause, and I i was doing a little research yesterday, I
[00:00:22] was trying to tot up in
[00:00:23] of the last 12 years since Anstal have
[00:00:27] controlled the airport. and
[00:00:30] Sana um, I I found
[00:00:33] 27 different times for Saudis have bombed
[00:00:36] Sanah airport, and not on one of those 27
[00:00:40] times did the European Union
[00:00:44] of condemn
[00:00:44] this the Saudis for bombing sa airport, which is a civilian
[00:00:47] airport, nor did the BBC
[00:00:51] lead the lead the news, nor did the BBC lead
[00:00:55] their newscast with it, I bet right, absolutely
[00:00:58] not, no, and... of those killed, there been instances where there were
[00:01:02] 50 children killed in bombing
[00:01:04] of the school bus, for examples, not one mention in
[00:01:07] western media at all,
[00:01:10] you know the the propaganda levels are off for
[00:01:13] wall, they are absolutely extraordinary, if
[00:01:17] if
[00:01:18] you know the story is generally speak, if you're if you're growing up in
[00:01:21] America like I did, I grew up in the United States, you grew up in
[00:01:24] of Scotland right, yeah, if you grow up
[00:01:28] in a place like yours or a place like mine, basically grow up believing
[00:01:31] because you're fed this by the movies, by the television shows, by the
[00:01:35] newscasts, by the newspapers etc. muslims
[00:01:39] are are are bad people who generally don't
[00:01:42] bathe and they're
[00:01:44] of probably terrorists for the most
[00:01:46] in part, russians are these sneaky these brutal
[00:01:50] bully slaves etc
[00:01:52] of etc. the chinese are these
[00:01:55] you know asian sneaky people you can't turn your backs on the whatever,
[00:01:59] mean
[00:01:59] a obviously. I'm exaggerating this, but it's but it's
[00:02:02] of ingrained in the mindset of
[00:02:05] westerners to the point where they think they're
[00:02:08] special, they're good, they're sophisticated and
[00:02:12] decent, and the rest
[00:02:13] of the world isn't. Well, the rest
[00:02:15] of the world, whether they like it or not is
[00:02:18] of 88%
[00:02:18] of the population, so I mean it, it's pretty hard
[00:02:22] for you as 12% to think, we're superior to all of you, and we
[00:02:26] will tell you what to do, you'd think by now they would have kind of..."
[00:02:41] and you would hope that people would would tweak, i think there is, i think
[00:02:44] it's partly a generational thing here, i
[00:02:48] of me do a think
[00:02:49] that the young people meet and the young people i talk to, i still go and talk in colleges
[00:02:52] and universities sometimes,
[00:02:54] of of so that's increasingly blocked off to
[00:02:57] of of me, as i say, limitations on the speech are getting worse in the...
[00:03:00] but i do
[00:03:01] of find that young people have more open idea
[00:03:05] of the world than most people in my own generation did and that's
[00:03:09] perhaps um quite quite hopeful is
[00:03:12] it because let
[00:03:13] me ask you is it because they don't watch you and i grew up watching the local
[00:03:17] news you know my kids do not watch NBC
[00:03:21] or CNN or the BBC or any of that crap they think it's a
[00:03:24] joke but we did grow up with that however so and
[00:03:28] of they live on social media but they do still kind of manifest in the world of
[00:03:32] movies and stuff like that, so that's where that
[00:03:36] a maybe of could be influenced, I imagine, I don't know, what you
[00:03:38] think? no, I think you're right, I think it is to do
[00:03:42] with the fact that they don't, they're not passive consumers of news
[00:03:46] of and the way that
[00:03:48] a of we were, I grew up believing anything it said in the guardian over BBC, I
[00:03:50] mean i just assumed it was in the guardian over BFC, it must be
[00:03:54] true, um, simply because that's a society I grew up in and those were
[00:03:58] the beliefs of all the people. around
[00:04:01] in me, um, I, I now know
[00:04:03] that that's you,
[00:04:04] a absolutely not the truth, um, but young people don't go
[00:04:08] of up consuming in that way,
[00:04:09] of they're much more proactive
[00:04:11] in in their sources, I, I, I, I'm actually very
[00:04:14] positively reinforced sometimes when I when I talk to you, I
[00:04:18] find young people who did my own stuff, which
[00:04:21] is always always very pleasant
[00:04:24] surprise, it's nice to read what grandpa has to say, yeah, that's
[00:04:28] that's how I feel, that's how I feel too,
[00:04:40] let's talk about this, because I'm I'm curious
[00:04:43] of of as I'm sitting
[00:04:43] of here, do do you think the
[00:04:47] west, and
[00:04:48] of it's hegemony, overused word, but
[00:04:51] still, is a point now where
[00:04:54] a they can't give up the power, because if they admit to these things that you
[00:04:58] and I are talking about, Let's suppose they were, I would think it would be the
[00:05:02] smart thing to do, but maybe they can't do this. Hey,
[00:05:04] you know what, China, uh, Iran,
[00:05:08] Russia, India, these are important countries, let's go to
[00:05:12] them. and forge a coalition with them rather than being
[00:05:16] against them, do they fear that if they
[00:05:19] do that then they just the numbers aren't there for them and they'll become
[00:05:23] nothing? why don't they reach out? guess is my
[00:05:26] question, they're
[00:05:29] desperate to maintain the current order
[00:05:33] because the mistake their
[00:05:36] power and control is how
[00:05:39] they make a living, if you look at the...
[00:05:42] like the United Kingdom, yeah, it hardly manufactures anything at
[00:05:46] all anymore, uh,
[00:05:50] it all, it's major income, I'm talking outside Scotland, which
[00:05:54] has other sources of income, but certainly most the United Kingdom, it's
[00:05:58] major income comes from
[00:06:01] services, and the great many of those services are
[00:06:05] simply matter of maintaining and
[00:06:08] crevating the wealth of economies that
[00:06:11] do... things and so
[00:06:15] we have vastly inflated property markets from all kinds of foreign
[00:06:19] people who want
[00:06:19] to come and
[00:06:20] live here, very wealthy farm people, we we have these
[00:06:24] investment companies, there's no reason at all why if
[00:06:28] you're a Chinese billionaire, you would invest your money in the city of London as opposed to
[00:06:31] investing it in Shanghai or somewhere else, but but they
[00:06:35] do, because it's part the mistique of soft power if
[00:06:39] you like, but we but the west lives on it. reputation, it
[00:06:43] lifts, it lives on that
[00:06:47] inherited defense, but makes people
[00:06:50] think
[00:06:51] that this is where they ought to live and this is where they ought
[00:06:53] to do their transactions, so any shift in the perception the west
[00:06:57] superiority in the world order becomes a shift
[00:07:00] to it its fundamental ability to attract wealth, and I think
[00:07:04] that's that's a part the problem. It's also true that
[00:07:07] China in particular shows no real
[00:07:11] interest in expanding its world influence,
[00:07:14] china has a trading
[00:07:17] relationship around the world, and it's its
[00:07:21] interest is is based on on trade relations
[00:07:25] and on on making money. China doesn't
[00:07:28] attempt to translate
[00:07:31] its economic importance and its economic weight into
[00:07:35] worldwide political influence in the way that it might in the way that many of us
[00:07:39] think it would actually be rather helpful if it did it did.
[00:07:42] interesting, yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't, it makes sense, I mean,
[00:07:46] they they don't need to push their genes aqua,
[00:07:50] buse they have 1.3 or 1.4
[00:07:53] billion people, and they have resources
[00:07:57] and they have land, same as the Russians, I
[00:08:01] mean, the Russians have more timber, more hydrocarbons, more land,
[00:08:05] more, more of everything, rare earth minerals like the Chinese, lot
[00:08:09] these countries have all these things that the Europeans don't have. "but
[00:08:13] you know, you're right, because when I travel as a journalist to places
[00:08:16] like Iran uh, before the
[00:08:20] war, and talk to the people there, and when I go to Beijing, and talk to
[00:08:24] the people there, and when I talk to people in Russia, and when I
[00:08:27] talk to people from India and other places, uh, they are
[00:08:31] even though the west treats them like
[00:08:34] absolute dog crap, they
[00:08:37] still have
[00:08:39] this myst,
[00:08:39] this mystified view
[00:08:41] the west, and they'll oh." 'wow, you're from Miami, how cool,
[00:08:45] what's it like, and oh, and I remember this movie, and I love
[00:08:48] this show, and I love this, the sports team, and so they
[00:08:52] are, in fact, the people from the Bricks or Global South, whatever
[00:08:56] it is, those 88% the population the world is
[00:09:00] still somewhat enthrolled with that tiny little
[00:09:03] 12% somehow, and if that's all they got left as
[00:09:07] their power base, I understand your point, that they need to
[00:09:10] somehow recirculate'. that keep it going
[00:09:13] right? yeah, i i think
[00:09:17] that's true, it's a fascinating uh part the
[00:09:21] psychology the world economy. yeah,
[00:09:24] because you would think
[00:09:27] though, mr. ambassador, that at some point the people in the west
[00:09:31] would come to the realization that the numbers are against
[00:09:35] us, so we better start kind of doing this a little bit
[00:09:38] differently, or else, 88%,
[00:09:40] 12%. percent, that's a a big
[00:09:44] number. listen, i i want to ask you before we go, because
[00:09:48] we talk about all these, we talk about NATO
[00:09:51] expansion and what the west has done in
[00:09:54] countries all over the world, specifically the old
[00:09:58] former soviet countries or satellite countries, and you had a
[00:10:01] specific experience in Uzbekistan where you saw that first
[00:10:05] hand, can you explain to us what what what what you saw
[00:10:09] in that country that uh made you there for? a while household
[00:10:13] name? yeah, at at that time it
[00:10:17] was part of united states extraordinary rendition program where it
[00:10:20] had these centers where it
[00:10:23] was accepting torture from me
[00:10:27] regimes to provide it with intelligence
[00:10:31] and it was actually flying people there in order for them to
[00:10:35] be tortured um and
[00:10:38] i if you like stumbled across that while
[00:10:41] i was ambassador in in in Uzbekistan at the time it was
[00:10:45] hotly denied although the the existence of that program is
[00:10:48] now widely acknowledged just to be
[00:10:52] clear so our viewers understand what you're saying the united state. would have a
[00:10:55] prisoner from let's say Iraq and
[00:10:59] they wanted him to talk so they would ship him to Uzbekistan where
[00:11:03] he would be questioned until they got an answer
[00:11:07] from him, that's one of those places they call those black sights so to speak
[00:11:11] where they torture people and you discovered that was taking place in
[00:11:15] Uzbekistan, yeah that that's exactly right
[00:11:19] tonight I tried to stop it internally
[00:11:22] um and was... to shut up,
[00:11:26] in effect, i was told the gloves are off in the war on terror, and
[00:11:30] ministers had decided that we would get intelligence from torture
[00:11:34] in the war on terror, so at that stage, i went
[00:11:38] public and and blew the whistle, and that was the end of my of my diplomatic
[00:11:41] career, but
[00:11:44] the the important thing to grasp about this is they weren't
[00:11:48] getting true intelligence, you don't get the truth from torture, what
[00:11:52] they were getting was they were getting people to sign up to the... they
[00:11:55] wanted to tell, they were getting people to admit to being connected to
[00:11:59] al-qaed, people had no connection whatsoever to
[00:12:02] al-qaida, this wasn't a genuine attempt to
[00:12:06] prevent terrorism or get it the truth, it would be, mean in my view be
[00:12:10] morally invalid, even if it did get it the truth, but that wasn't the
[00:12:14] purpose, the purpose was to build narrative that
[00:12:17] justified the expansion of American
[00:12:20] military presence in central Asia in particular, but but other
[00:12:24] places - but we found out since then that
[00:12:28] everything you said is confirmable and true and
[00:13:10] much so, I mean, but the state has treated as a trater in
[00:13:13] effect ever since I blew the whistle on that, I should say when I when I
[00:13:17] first brought it to the attention the authorities, um,
[00:13:21] and and was arguing with them that it was illegal, I was called back. for meeting
[00:13:25] with our senior legal advisor Sir Michael Word and he advised me in
[00:13:29] person
[00:13:30] that this is not against the law uh it to receive
[00:13:33] intelligence from torture as long as we don't do the torturing
[00:13:37] ourselves is not illegal, I i
[00:13:40] was told and then when I continued to
[00:13:44] argue I was called into personnel department and they told me
[00:13:48] that I could resign as ambassador tashkent and I could be ambassador
[00:13:52] in Copenhagen instead and they said Copenhagens. much nicer place to
[00:13:56] live, you've got tively gardens, it's beautiful, well why don't you just forget
[00:13:59] it and and and do that? um, and
[00:14:03] i didn't do that,
[00:14:05] the they then tried making all kinds of accusations against me and plastering my love
[00:14:09] life all over the newspapers, uh, so it was
[00:14:24] would say to you, That's like saying if I'm a room and I'm watching a
[00:14:27] child be raped or murdered, as long as we're not doing
[00:14:31] it, we somebody else was doing it,
[00:14:33] so who cares? No, we should care, what's wrong is wrong, no
[00:14:37] matter how who's doing it or how it's done, and you did the right
[00:15:11] sir, we appreciate it once again. Craig Murray, ambassador, used to be an
[00:15:15] ambassador in many countries actually, but uh, made headlines, as we can say in
[00:15:24] so much, and you could obiously. Pardon me, you can
[00:15:27] find much of what we talk about, whatever else we're going to be putting
[00:15:31] out, this conversation, all over the
[00:15:34] socials, but most of all go to bitsoot. bitchuot's doing something
[00:15:38] interesting right now, they're going to be encrypting everything
[00:15:42] on their video platform and
[00:15:45] social site, which is fascinating when you think the fact that
[00:15:49] too many people out there right now are using uh
[00:15:53] social media sites to find out what you think and then knocking
[00:15:57] on your door and saying why did you say that? well what if they don't know
[00:16:00] who you are? maybe that's the way social media should be and
[00:16:04] uh bitchuot's trying to make that happen. which I think is pretty
[00:16:08] good, pretty cool and pretty necessary,
[00:16:11] bitsoot.com, check it out, not there yet, but close, get
[00:16:15] early as we
[00:17:19] All right, so good to have your company for this live broadcast from Moscow. This is RT International,
[00:17:23] straight to our top stories for you right now, because Vladimir Zelenski
[00:17:26] will do anything to buy time to regroup Ukraine's
[00:17:30] forces, that is the view of Russia's foreign minister
[00:17:34] emit yet more talks from Keyev about c
[00:17:41] In recent months, the call for a ceasefire has replaced the call for inflicting
[00:17:44] a strategic defeat on Russia in the rhetoric of both
[00:17:48] Zelensky and his western masters. The goal is singular and
[00:17:52] very simple, to buy time. He is even said he is willing
[00:17:56] to hold a presidential election provided he is given two months to
[00:18:00] regroup. During that period, Europe could flood him with new
[00:18:03] weaponry to continue his terrorist war against the Russian people.
[00:18:07] famined astonishment regarding President Trump's statement reflects only
[00:18:11] one thing: that he desperately wants to use any words, any
[00:18:15] initiatives and any ideas that enter the public sphere to
[00:18:19] promote his interest in a breathing space, by hook or by
[00:18:22] crook. I do not believe he has earned such respit, nor do I think
[00:18:26] we will once again fall for assurances or promises. The President
[00:18:30] has stated this very clearly. We continue to pursue the objectives
[00:18:34] the special military operation. objectives are well known to
[00:18:38] everyone, we have never altered them, unlike the zigzags and
[00:18:42] evasions of Zelensky and his European
[00:18:45] masters. the political pressure on Zelensky is
[00:18:48] mounting on several fronts: first, as you know, the American president
[00:18:52] suddenly stressed Ukraine needs a new leader. In response, Zelensky has
[00:18:56] demanded a 60-day cease fire to prepare the country to go to the
[00:19:00] polls, but it's not just electoral issues that have put
[00:19:03] Zelensky's old acting skills back on display.
[00:19:08] because after Washington announced a deal on Russian diesel exports,
[00:19:12] the decision was not well received in Kiev, particularly by Vladimir
[00:19:16] Zelensky himself. President Trump said
[00:19:20] that that we need, Ukraine needs new
[00:19:23] president, so first of all, with all respect to president
[00:19:27] Trump, it's up to our
[00:19:31] society, up to our people to choose one
[00:19:34] or another leader. Why are they? you for
[00:19:38] the continuation of this war, because these
[00:19:42] people can't find a key how to
[00:19:46] stop Putin, because
[00:19:49] it's more difficult to
[00:19:53] stop Putin than to pressure others.
[00:19:57] we've been discussing this with a political risk consultant and lawyer
[00:20:00] adsonter, says it's very foolish for Zelensky to try and
[00:20:04] make an enemy out of Donald Trump.
[00:20:08] the recent reaction, the out outburs of
[00:20:11] anger from the Ukrainian leader uh after
[00:20:15] the um quite historical words coming from
[00:20:19] the uh mouth the President the United States Donald Trump
[00:20:22] that uh the uh democratic election should be
[00:20:26] um uh put in place in in Ukraine because the current leader
[00:20:30] is not serving his nation and the
[00:20:33] its um uh resonder uh
[00:20:39] so basically um Mr. Zelinski is putting
[00:20:42] everything into one basket, so basically she's he's
[00:20:45] playing a russian quite simply put it
[00:20:49] because... he's betting on uh uh democrats coming to
[00:20:53] power after the mid-terms elections uh related to
[00:20:57] dispopularity the Donald Trump in the United States due to
[00:21:01] his um unnecessary conflict with Iran.
[00:21:04] So uh basically the the the
[00:21:08] thinking in Brussels and both in in
[00:21:10] in in Kief and Brussels is that once the democrats will take the
[00:21:14] majority in the United States the uh the previous
[00:21:18] scenario which is uh situation of maximum
[00:21:21] pressure on Russia and supplying
[00:21:24] Ukraine with money and weapons will
[00:21:28] continue, so I think that this is the one way
[00:21:32] streak um for for Mr. Zelinski, because maybe even if
[00:21:36] the democrats will come to power, still the Donald Trump is a
[00:21:40] president and has a significant influence over the
[00:21:44] foreign policy of his own country, so I think that making an
[00:21:48] enemies both. Russia and United States who is the
[00:21:52] main sponsor who has been the main sponsor of this unnecessary
[00:21:55] conflict uh
[00:21:56] is very dangerous uh again plan from Mr. Zelinski in his
[00:22:00] political circle so as I imagine you know by now this
[00:22:04] all comes as the European Union has approved yet another package
[00:22:08] of sanctions on Russia it's a number 22 by the
[00:22:11] way Brussels again claiming it's so important to keep
[00:22:15] increasing pressure on Moscow and keep increasing support for
[00:22:18] Ukraine. At the same time, it called out Donald Trump's new
[00:22:22] diesel deal with
[00:22:23] Russia. We acknowledge
[00:22:27] the agreement between the United States and Russia regarding the export of
[00:22:31] diesel, Russia will only negotiate seriously under
[00:22:34] pressure, which is why we are sticking to our sanctions against
[00:22:37] Russia.
[00:22:38] The more we help Ukraine, the sooner the war will be over. What we need to do
[00:22:42] is refocus and redouble our efforts in keeping pressure on Russia, that has to be our
[00:22:46] priority and that is Europe's priority.
[00:22:50] neither the crisis the oil products nor the unity
[00:22:54] within the transatlantic community what concerns on Russia
[00:22:58] and it is not the European way, our way is to increase pressure
[00:23:01] buse we already seen how it works, we are not done here cuuse for
[00:23:05] Europe, this is the vital interest to help Ukraine to
[00:23:09] sustain this winter and continuing putting, as I already
[00:23:13] said pressure pressure pressure on Russia, of course it was Friday
[00:23:17] that Trump and Putin cut a deal with Washington lifting. sanctions on
[00:23:20] Moscow's diesel exports, the news did see oil prices
[00:23:24] fall, although they remain above hundred bucks a barrel. At the agreement says
[00:23:28] Moscow will supply 300 thousand tons of diesel to American and
[00:23:32] global markets followed by another half million in November.
[00:23:35] Another million will come after that with a further 3 million later
[00:23:39] depending on the condition of Russia's refineries. The decision has been
[00:23:43] seized upon by much the media, although they conveniently ignore Europe's
[00:23:47] own continued thirst for Russian fuel. something that has not
[00:23:50] escaped the attention the US
[00:23:52] president. The European
[00:23:56] Union paid Russia 250 billion dollars for energy,
[00:24:00] and the fake news media doesn't want to get near that story. I made the
[00:24:04] right choice for the American people, always America
[00:24:07] first. Well, according to the Russian deputy prime minister, Trump's
[00:24:11] been under reporting just how much diesel is actually due
[00:24:14] to be heading over to the
[00:24:16] states. According to our... ministry
[00:24:20] of energy, the figure is significantly higher than even the 250 billion
[00:24:24] denounced by our American colleagues. This amount totals
[00:24:27] 320, 7 billion dollars for the period from
[00:24:30] 2022 to the present day. This represents the volume of energy
[00:24:34] resource supplies to European Union countries regarding the year
[00:24:38] 2026. According to the Ministry of Energy, 21, 3 billion
[00:24:41] dollars worth of energy resources have already been supplied to Europe in the first
[00:24:45] nine months alone. Despite sanctions restrictions, energy resources
[00:24:49] continue.
[00:24:50] to be supplied to us via specific channels for which exceptions have been
[00:24:53] made. as reliable supplier that has always fulfilled its previously signed
[00:24:57] contracts, Russia continues to honor its obligations. Indeed, although the
[00:25:01] composition of exports to the European Union has changed significantly in recent
[00:25:04] years, it was not due to our fault. so regarding
[00:25:08] this latest now, the brand new package of sanctions against Russia number
[00:25:12] 22, by the way, but after so many rounds of
[00:25:16] sanctions could this actually be a sign, the Brussels is running low on
[00:25:20] options to bring Moscow to its knees, here's our correspondent
[00:25:23] egorasdanov. realistically though, this has been
[00:25:27] the point that Europe has been making all along,
[00:25:29] like we need to apply pressure on Russia to bring the war, the
[00:25:33] end the war closer. this is clearly not working, but you know this definition of
[00:25:36] insanity, one the definitions, insanity is you know
[00:25:40] doing the same thing over and over again and each time
[00:25:44] hoping for different result. well, I'm sure they are already thinking what they could include
[00:25:48] into the 23rd package, how can... make the 23rd sanctions
[00:25:51] package the biggest yet, you can clearly hear the rhetoric, for
[00:25:54] instance, the what the Estonian Prime Minister has said, who
[00:25:58] openly, openly
[00:26:09] agreement goes against the long-term efforts the western world to limit the
[00:26:12] flow of energy revenues to Putin. The US has already convinced its
[00:26:16] allies, including us, to abandoned Russian fuel. The
[00:26:20] long-term goal of depriving Russia of funds is correct, and it must be
[00:26:24] continued. In Estonia, and at the European Council, it is worth
[00:26:28] discussing next week whether we can quickly contribute more to Ukraine so that they
[00:26:32] can... strike Russian oil refineries? Europe has been
[00:26:36] buying gas, has been buying Russia's Russia's metals uh, pretty
[00:26:39] much just this year alone they purchased Europe purchased just about
[00:26:43] 10 billion dollars worth of goods from Russia, six billions,
[00:26:47] just over 6 billions accounting for, well well with gas
[00:26:51] accounting for 6.1 billion of of this. Now
[00:26:55] of course we don't know how how much Russia will get in this diesel deal
[00:26:59] with the United States given how many steps in it there is. but
[00:27:03] essentially if you look at the at the oil prices and if you take the figure as
[00:27:07] to how much Russia has agreed so far to to supply
[00:27:10] the United States with, that's in the realms of 7
[00:27:14] billion dollars. yeah, so 6 billion for gas in case of Europe,
[00:27:18] 7 billion uh in case of diesel in the United States. Europe has
[00:27:22] been doing all the same things, they have been you know also funding Putin's war
[00:27:26] efforts and so on, it just they've been doing it quietly. seems like the only
[00:27:29] threat to to this deal is Kiev because said that he's going to
[00:27:33] continue attacking Russian oil refineries, but why
[00:27:37] is he so keen on uh sabotaging
[00:27:41] Washington's uh plans? well, it's pretty clear, you just have to look at what
[00:27:44] Kiev has had to say before that, they wanted this energy deal, but
[00:27:48] a very different, well shape and form. Zelensky, well he's been
[00:27:52] uh, he's been making some very unhinged claims saying that well, the United States
[00:27:56] should have come to Ukraine and made deal with Ukraine, as if
[00:28:00] Ukraine, well in his words it does, controls the out the Russian
[00:28:04] output, have a have listen. Why doesn't America
[00:28:08] conclude a diesel deal with Ukraine? Let Ukraine offer a
[00:28:11] diesel deal? We influence whether these ships go or not, whether these
[00:28:15] refineries work or not, so yes, let's sign the corresponding diesel
[00:28:19] deal with the President the United States of America. Again, this
[00:28:23] is also quite ironic to come from a man whose entire
[00:28:26] budget, entire country lives of whatever Europe has
[00:28:30] to give to them, otherwise the... don't even have enough to pay
[00:28:34] salaries to the most crucial part their society right now and that's their you know
[00:28:37] servicement. it seems that uh the weight of
[00:28:41] supporting uh Kiev's war machine is now uh being
[00:28:45] pressed on Brussel's shoulders
[00:28:47] so what does Russia have to say about indeed it has been the policy the
[00:28:51] Trump administration for a while now let Europe
[00:28:55] pay for the war in Europe according to Russia well Europe has already
[00:28:59] shown that it is not they can say they can talk however much
[00:29:02] they want about wanting to bring this war to an end, but they don't, because
[00:29:06] every because we've seen everything that they have implied so far, here
[00:29:10] it has failed, but still Europe is definitely a party
[00:29:14] acts like a party in this war while Washington is trying to uh have
[00:29:18] look and try to trying to find
[00:29:20] solutions, the Europeans clearly do not belong to
[00:29:24] the party of peace, the party that seeks ways toward peaceful settlement, the
[00:29:28] Europeans are more like the party of war which continues to do everything to prevent
[00:29:32] this. from stopping, we are far more impressed by the efforts the American
[00:29:36] negotiators, so right now we are a bit of crossroads here with
[00:29:40] one way being, well it could all with, I mean all of this huffing
[00:29:43] and puffing, if that will just remain that, all
[00:29:47] talk,
[00:29:48] and uh, Europe and Zelensky will talk very tough
[00:29:52] but won't act on these words, or if they will decide to
[00:29:55] directly try and disrupt Russia's well shipments to the United States,
[00:29:59] beat vessels or beat attacks against you know infrastructure in... by Russia and
[00:30:03] that would be interesting to see if they choose that that sort of course of
[00:30:07] events, if they choose the latter, then well Trump has quite a few, quite a few
[00:30:11] means to apply pressure and to punish uh anyone well in Ukraine
[00:30:14] for in Ukraine and Europe for disobedience, starting with the most
[00:30:18] obvious options like cutting intelligence sharing and switching off the starlink you
[00:30:22] know dishes. All right, there's our correspon right now,
[00:30:26] wrapping up this live hour from Moscow on RT International, from me,
[00:30:29] Robery Suche and the entire news team here, thank you for. sharing your time
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