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[00:00:00] place where people were unlawfully
[00:00:02] a detained and abused, meanwhile, a 14-year-old
[00:00:06] boy who
[00:00:07] of was seen being taken out
[00:00:09] of the building
[00:00:10] in a state of shock after being tortured is
[00:00:13] probably the best proof of what was happening in
[00:00:17] that secret prison, they grabbed me by the
[00:00:20] hair, you can't see it in the footage, but i have lumps on my head,
[00:00:24] they just beat me, i don't know, they used everything to hit me,
[00:00:28] shovels,
[00:00:29] of feet, fis. everything, then they carried me up to the
[00:00:32] in second a floor, they laid me face down on the floor and started
[00:00:35] interrogating me, I don't know, they hit me so hard on the head that I
[00:00:39] couldn't hear or see anything, they just started the interrogation,
[00:00:43] then they grabbed me by the hair again and threw me against another
[00:00:46] wall, because I didn't land on
[00:00:48] of my stomach when they threw me, they started slamming my head against the
[00:00:52] floor, punishing me for not looking the right way, smashing my
[00:00:56] head right into the floor, my nose started bleeding, but
[00:01:09] old boy's account is part of a wider debate over allegations of
[00:01:12] abuse linked to force mobilization. authorities have now move
[00:01:16] to arrest people who uh protested outside
[00:01:20] that torture house. now a
[00:01:22] of driver from the ambulance was uh placed a pre-trial
[00:01:26] detention for two months without bail. now he is
[00:01:30] used of uh filming the building which investigators say
[00:01:33] was a military site, police and the SBU
[00:01:37] of say they have already identified another 130 people
[00:01:41] who gathered uh at the site and questioned officials
[00:01:45] there.
[00:01:46] of woman who was the first to
[00:01:48] a raise the alarm about her relative being held there has
[00:01:52] a also been arrested according to latest reports. this
[00:01:56] is RT international up next is India, Russia and the world. And
[00:02:00] we'll be back with more news updates in 30
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[00:02:33] My guest today has been India's ambassador to multiple
[00:02:37] countries, he is also the former chief information commissioner to
[00:02:41] India, ambassador Yashwardan Kumar Sinna. Welcome
[00:02:45] to India, Russia and the world. Thank you very much for inviting me. There's so much
[00:02:48] happening in the world today, so much chaos, so much
[00:02:52] is changing, so I'm just thinking where I should start my
[00:02:56] podcast from. Let me actually start by asking you - you
[00:03:00] in
[00:03:00] of the recent tweet by Taker Karlson, I
[00:03:03] in haven't physically seen
[00:03:04] of the tweet, but I know about it because I saw an interview
[00:03:08] about it
[00:03:09] this morning, I think compety over the top if you ask me for my
[00:03:13] of reaction, and I think the white house is also
[00:03:17] discounted, I appreciate referring to the this
[00:03:21] is where he warns that Trump could actually launch
[00:03:25] nuclear strike on Iran under pressure from
[00:03:29] Nethaniahu. realistic obviously people
[00:03:32] speculate and but i don't think there is any merit
[00:03:36] of in
[00:03:38] of in that at all in terms of an option that's going to be, it is too horrendous even sort of
[00:03:41] contemplate, and why do you think
[00:03:43] of these kind
[00:03:44] of theories are floating around when midterm is
[00:03:49] a happening? midterm or not, the fact is that this war has dragged on for far too
[00:03:53] long and there is no end in sight, every day we
[00:03:57] hear about possible agreements and the latest. is
[00:04:00] that there there may be something
[00:04:03] you know where the blockade would be lifted and
[00:04:07] the Iranians would open the straight of hormos or allow passage of
[00:04:11] ships in two days if implemented, but we've heard
[00:04:15] it so many times before,
[00:04:16] of it's like crying wolf, but we have seen America launch
[00:04:20] these limited strikes again on Iran, so
[00:04:24] something is happening, well I mean president has been quoted as saying that
[00:04:28] I he do something after the midterm. but this attack you're talking to the
[00:04:31] limited attack on keshma island. keshhim island is very
[00:04:35] of strategic island because it has
[00:04:37] of lot
[00:04:39] of of the Iranian defenses there, so I think I
[00:04:43] think there was also some report that they were responding
[00:04:47] to the
[00:04:48] of Iranian of threat on their aircraft. India and US, they've had very
[00:04:52] turbulent relationship over the past couple of years, I
[00:04:56] would say, now after the mid-term elections a...
[00:05:00] weaker Trump or a stronger Trump, would that
[00:05:02] in any way impact the New Delhi, Washington
[00:05:06] of relationship? Well, I hope so, in the sense that uh,
[00:05:10] I think we've gone through very turbulent phase. in the second
[00:05:14] Trump administration as far our relations and I'm
[00:05:17] sure the outcome the midterms will have some
[00:05:21] impact on way foreign policy is conducted in
[00:05:25] general and India US relations in also
[00:05:28] but the president remains he will be there for another two
[00:05:32] years and he and in the US the president has very important
[00:05:36] role as far as conduct of international relations of foreign policy is
[00:05:40] concerned so I think "there may be
[00:05:43] changes in nuances, but the policy will continue
[00:05:47] to remain what it has been in terms of, the
[00:05:51] way the trade relations for instance of panned out. I would
[00:05:55] think that there would be slight changes in emphasis
[00:05:59] perhaps, but the policies will remain by and large the
[00:06:02] same. I as far as the US is concerned, it's not
[00:06:06] just what we have to offer each other, but
[00:06:09] the connect that we've had as the two large..." democracies in the
[00:06:13] world and the fact that such a large
[00:06:17] Indian diaspora, the fact is that we have this very
[00:06:21] deep relationship, whether it's defense, whether it's high tech critical
[00:06:25] technologies, whether it's the economic relationship, it's one of our
[00:06:28] largest trading partners, science,
[00:06:32] technology, education, number of Indians going to
[00:06:36] study there in the primer universities, so this is very symbiotic
[00:06:40] relationship, and in that relationship
[00:06:42] they'd "they're always ups and downs like any relationship.
[00:06:46] At the US also recently lifted put
[00:06:48] the on ban Russian crude, Russian diesel
[00:06:52] for a long time. They had lectured India, they had threatened India, they
[00:06:56] had pressured India not to buy russian oil and now ultimately the
[00:07:00] US is buying that oil. Do you think it sort of vindicates
[00:07:04] India's position of continuing buying Russian oil
[00:07:08] and saying that look, for India it is important to take care the needs
[00:07:12] of..." It's 1.4 billion people, last
[00:07:16] year we were targeted, actually the sanctions were imposed,
[00:07:19] 25% additional sanctions for buying russian crude,
[00:07:23] and now we hear that the the Americans
[00:07:27] are buying Russian diesel, so you know you've come full circle in that sense,
[00:07:31] it's a little funny, I would say, but clearly shows
[00:07:34] that one the heft, buse India withstood those
[00:07:38] sanctions and not only withstood those sanctions, India divers.
[00:07:42] defied its energy basket, so I think that was important. Russia
[00:07:46] became major supplier, if you remember before
[00:07:50] the wall, the Russia Ukraine wall, Russia was not a major
[00:07:54] supplier. Let's cut now to Rubio's
[00:07:57] visit to to India, the recent one, very
[00:08:01] interesting, because he straight away went to Jamnagar, how do you
[00:08:05] read it? So I think the purpose is quite clear,
[00:08:09] he really wanted to take a... advantage
[00:08:13] the reliance's ability to refine, it's
[00:08:17] one the largest refineries in the world and their ability to refine
[00:08:21] different grades of crude and not only
[00:08:24] supply europe which it was supplying but the US
[00:08:28] also and the US needs russian diesel
[00:08:32] but Jamnagar also can refine
[00:08:36] Russian oil and produce diesel or whatever I mean I think it's a
[00:08:39] clear message that the relationship is not
[00:08:43] necessary just strategic political defense, it goes beyond
[00:08:47] that, the economic and obviously against self-interest, national
[00:08:51] interest, don't forget that the secretary of state has been sort of more
[00:08:55] or less put in charge the Latin America and
[00:08:59] and Venezuela, Cuba and other the areas in countries in
[00:09:02] in in in Latin America, and I think right now
[00:09:05] Venezuela has a president and but the US
[00:09:09] has major say in what happens including where
[00:09:13] Venezuela sells oil, when I was in Venezuela, what about
[00:09:17] 17 years ago, we were buying Reliance was
[00:09:21] buying Venezuelan oil, if I remember correctly around 350,000
[00:09:25] barrels a day, and the reason being that obviously Reliance
[00:09:28] has that capability, the refinery in Jamanagar has that capability,
[00:09:32] in those days very few refineries, except I think
[00:09:36] SR and we're buying very small amounts capable of refining the
[00:09:40] heavy SAR crude of Venezuela. Israel, let's talk
[00:09:44] about Israel because everyone is speculating what's going to
[00:09:47] happen to Nethanyahu, what's going to happen in Israel in terms
[00:09:51] of who leads the country now? obviously the fact
[00:09:55] that the Netanyahu's coalition is the single largest
[00:09:59] coalition right now, the pre-pol coalition, and I think they won
[00:10:03] 53 seats, which is more than
[00:10:06] what was predicted, and the
[00:10:09] opposition is less 48. so I think
[00:10:13] it's going to be, who can get more allies?
[00:10:17] now if both parties or both coalitions do not want
[00:10:20] to allie with the Arab parties who have 19 seats,
[00:10:24] the... coalition, then things are going to be
[00:10:27] difficult, but then Israel is quite used to it because they've had these
[00:10:31] sort of hung assemblies or parliaments in the past
[00:10:35] before, and the coalition talks sort of
[00:10:38] interminably prolonged, but somehow they managed to come up
[00:10:42] with viable government at some point, there will be a government,
[00:10:46] what sort of government one doesn't know is yet, but the chances
[00:10:50] are that some form of Netanyahu in
[00:10:54] terms of some of... star of Netanyahu may be back and ambassador so how
[00:10:58] much of bearing, how much of an impact will it have on
[00:11:01] India, whether netan yaho is there or not? you know India and
[00:11:05] Israel have very close relations and I would like to
[00:11:09] believe that it doesn't necessarily depend on who the leaders
[00:11:13] are on in both countries, of course the personal
[00:11:16] chemistry between both the prime ministers, prime minister modi and prime
[00:11:20] minister very close, yeah so obviously what we
[00:11:24] see... the very close bond, personal
[00:11:27] bond, but it's more to just that, because that's built
[00:11:31] on the foundation of very close relations between the two
[00:11:35] countries. you this general perception is
[00:11:39] that when a leader of a country resorts to
[00:11:42] macho politics, which is being engaged in wars for
[00:11:46] the sake their country, nationalism and and all of
[00:11:49] that, then you get votes by default, because
[00:11:53] this strong marcho. leader is apparently standing
[00:11:57] up for the country, but in the case of Israel, perhaps that's not
[00:12:01] the case, so what is your reading the situation? well, the opposition
[00:12:05] leader, I think he is a former chief of staff,
[00:12:09] so you can't get more marchel than that in terms the uniform he
[00:12:13] wore etc. he lost his son, but it's it's baby who's been driving the war,
[00:12:16] that's correct, but he lost his son, he lost the neview during the
[00:12:20] war, by the way, in Israel, it's different, it's different from say any other
[00:12:24] country. in the sense that here both the
[00:12:28] coalitions, the main opposition coalition and the governing
[00:12:31] coalition have very similar views in terms
[00:12:34] of what the you know how they should
[00:12:38] approach their neighborhood, for
[00:12:41] instance, so I don't expect that there will be dramatic
[00:12:45] shift, yes perhaps if the opposition comes
[00:12:49] to par, perhaps there may be earlier end to some
[00:12:52] these wars, Iran war. of course depends also on the
[00:12:56] US, but also in southern Lebanon and Gaza,
[00:12:59] etc. for instance and the Hamas, they very clear both
[00:13:03] the coalitions, and I think most Israelis have
[00:13:06] very similar view in how to deal with the Hamas. Let's come
[00:13:10] back to India, would you say Mr. Modi's politics is macho
[00:13:14] politics? I wouldn't qualify that as much of politics simply because he
[00:13:18] is a strong man, but he is very popular
[00:13:21] leader,
[00:13:22] and what in my, what I have seen, my... still opinion what he's achieved or
[00:13:26] his government has achieved in 12 years despite all the head winds,
[00:13:30] you've had black swn events like COVID, you've had the
[00:13:34] economic downturn, you have wars, the Russia Ukraine war and the
[00:13:38] war in the Gulf, I think the way he is steered the
[00:13:42] ship of state is actually quite remarkable, so I wouldn't qualify him as
[00:13:45] a matural leader, I would qualify
[00:13:48] him as a people's leader really, but ambassador Sinna, one
[00:13:52] must also acknowledge that there is a bit of...
[00:13:55] discontent, there are protests happening, well
[00:13:58] almost every other day, which also a sense
[00:14:02] breaks that image that some had tried to create
[00:14:06] in the west about India that, oh democracy is dead, I would say these
[00:14:10] protests while they show a bit of
[00:14:14] discontent with the Modi government, but they also show
[00:14:17] that democracy in India is thriving and
[00:14:21] kicking, doesn't it? Absolutely, I think the fact that...
[00:14:25] take place, the opposition has their space to
[00:14:29] protest, and as long as you follow the rules, the
[00:14:33] law, I think there is always an avenue to
[00:14:36] voice your dissatisfaction or descent, and that is the true nature
[00:14:40] of democracy, so I think, and considering that he's been in power
[00:14:44] for over 12 years, you would expect that there would be people
[00:14:48] who would not entirely agree and there would be a certain amount of
[00:14:52] anti-incumbency, but the fact that... "these protests have been
[00:14:56] by and large peaceful is again a credit to
[00:15:00] Indian democracy, I think, because look what's happening in Europe, and
[00:15:03] we are lectured about you, how there is the
[00:15:07] democracy deficit, and now you have countries in
[00:15:11] Europe actually imposing
[00:15:13] fines, the we we sort of criticize for all
[00:15:17] sorts of thing like bulldozer, justice etc., but what is happening now in
[00:15:21] Europe? I mean, when people take the law into their own..."
[00:15:26] then it's no more peaceful protest,
[00:15:28] it is anarchy. you see ambassador, none the headlines, at
[00:15:32] least that i have seen if you have, you can tell me that cover
[00:15:36] the protest in Europe. "they don't use labels like
[00:15:40] dictator or or you know high-headed or
[00:15:43] democracy is dead, none of that. why do you think that's reserved for
[00:15:47] India always? there is a certain
[00:15:50] narrative
[00:15:51] which certain sections
[00:15:55] of opinion makers in the west, whether it is the
[00:15:58] media or whether it's the political leadership in
[00:16:02] certain countries, they try and weave about
[00:16:05] India. now I..." not saying India is perfect, India is far from
[00:16:09] perfect, and we have lot of issues which we are tacting
[00:16:12] ourselves, but when they hector us, when they lecture
[00:16:16] us, it is pure hypocrisy, because when you see what's happening in their
[00:16:20] own countries, you see, so I think because India is a
[00:16:24] bright spot outside the western
[00:16:27] hemisphere, really, the western world, because they
[00:16:31] feel that they are the people who introduced liberal
[00:16:35] democracy to the world, and here you have, a non
[00:16:39] anglo saxon country, a country which was
[00:16:42] colonized etc. successfully to a
[00:16:46] large extent 1.4 billion people, mean
[00:16:49] to try and run a country of 1.4 billion is
[00:16:53] huge,
[00:16:53] it's a gigantic task, and as i said votes and
[00:16:57] all we have done pretty well as far as running the
[00:17:01] country for democracy is concerned. i also want to talk
[00:17:04] to you about the protest. that we've seen in India's
[00:17:08] neighborhood, you've been the high commissioner in Colombo as
[00:17:12] well, what happened in Colombo, then in
[00:17:15] Bangladesh and then in Nepal, it was
[00:17:19] unprecedented and there was
[00:17:22] enough evidence that came out that there was
[00:17:26] some sort of foreign involvement and it was indeed
[00:17:29] regime change operation, could something like that ever happen in
[00:17:33] India? I'm glad you brought this up because what happened
[00:17:37] colombo of course happened after iad much after i had left, but followed very
[00:17:41] closely, there was popular
[00:17:43] discontent, the follen hand was not so obvious
[00:17:47] as far as Sri Lanka was concerned, but Bangladesh
[00:17:51] absolutely, I mean I don't think I have any at personally I have
[00:17:55] no doubt
[00:17:55] it was quite brisen, it was very brisen
[00:17:58] the way and it's coming out you know when the
[00:18:01] caretaker leader Mohammed Yunus paraded a student leader
[00:18:05] saying he is responsible
[00:18:07] in in. I think it was a event, it was
[00:18:10] bizarre because he was an admission that all thing, this
[00:18:14] whole thing was not spontaneous, it was planned, but I think what is important is
[00:18:18] that India is too large,
[00:18:21] India has far deeper traditions in terms
[00:18:25] of democracy and change of governments and being
[00:18:29] able to to went
[00:18:33] their their dissatisfaction also, so you need
[00:18:36] outlets. outlets are there, so I think I don't see
[00:18:40] that happening a place like India, and there are
[00:18:43] opportunities for the opposition for instance
[00:18:46] to voice their points of view, their
[00:18:50] opinions etc. I mean that's the other day you saw on Ram Lila Medan,
[00:18:54] there were people speaking, people spoke freely, people
[00:18:58] spoke quite critically also,
[00:19:02] so I guess that's democracy for you. I want to
[00:19:06] ask you this question, ambassador, Does the UN not
[00:19:09] take India seriously? I'll tell you why I'm asking this question.
[00:19:13] Recently, on two occasions at least, India had
[00:19:17] to correct the UN reporter. For example, they
[00:19:20] mentioned thouth being India based, and then
[00:19:24] India had to correct the UN and say, "No, no, that is not India
[00:19:28] based, that is based in Islamabad." Why they not doing their homework
[00:19:32] when it comes to countries like India? This would never
[00:19:35] happen, say... if this was case which was
[00:19:39] related to Washington for example, therefore I ask, does the
[00:19:43] UN not take India seriously, whether it was done purposely
[00:19:47] or not, I don't know, yeah, I mean that really sort of
[00:19:50] throws light on what the real structural deficiency the UN
[00:19:54] itself are, the very fact that the UN
[00:19:58] represents, the most universal
[00:20:01] organization that we have, but unfortunately it's agenda
[00:20:05] gets hijacked by fe and that is why we have been in the
[00:20:09] forefront of asking for reforms the UN and not just
[00:20:13] us, but the majority the member states, because they
[00:20:17] must represent the interests of not a few
[00:20:21] in the west or at least the the powerful
[00:20:24] nations, but the interest the global international community, and I
[00:20:28] think India been the forefront of that, whether
[00:20:31] it's security council reforms or reforms in the institutions.
[00:20:34] India has been in the phase of...
[00:20:38] India
[00:20:38] has had to assert itself to be taken as a
[00:20:42] serious player in business on the global stage. Where do you
[00:20:46] think India is at the moment? Is it done asserting? is
[00:20:50] it already there, has it arrived or do you think that more work is
[00:20:54] needed? well, certainly more work is needed, India is emerging
[00:20:57] part, all I can do is to quote our external affairs minister,
[00:21:01] he said, if I remember correctly, India is power in the
[00:21:05] middle, not a middle par, but a part in the middle, I
[00:21:08] like that catch of phrase, India is more than just a middle par,
[00:21:12] when you talk about middle pars, certain countries come to mind, in
[00:21:16] fact for instance, if I recall correctly PM the Prime Minister. of
[00:21:20] Canada, Mr. Carly when he was divorce had mentioned that
[00:21:24] you know the middle pass should should get together, because if you're not
[00:21:28] on the table, you will be on the menu. Now I
[00:21:32] say I would like to believe that India is on the table
[00:21:35] really, and India is not going to be ever part the
[00:21:39] menu, because if it is then it'd
[00:21:42] be very difficult to digest what you're going to try and
[00:21:46] eat, because India is too big and India has... lot
[00:21:50] of strengths and I said we have a long way to go, so I think the
[00:21:53] description of emerging power perhaps suits India the
[00:21:57] best, and I go back to what Dr. Jayshankar said,
[00:22:01] power in the middle, who would you say is
[00:22:04] India's closest partner, friend,
[00:22:08] allies not the word India uses, so we don't have allies
[00:22:12] as such, but we are very strong partnerships, who is India's strongest
[00:22:16] partner, I would like to classify who India's strongest partner is,
[00:22:20] "but I can tell you who India's oldest partner is and
[00:22:24] and strong partner and that would be Russia really, because Russia
[00:22:28] has stood, the Russia and before that the Soviet Union has always
[00:22:31] stood by India, and Indians don't forget,
[00:22:35] you see, we have very long memory, sometimes too long memory,
[00:22:38] I think, but we we are very grateful for what Russia has
[00:22:42] done for us and what the rel bilateral
[00:22:45] relationship, the way it stands today, it
[00:22:48] is" equally beneficial
[00:22:51] and in the global scheme of things
[00:22:54] obviously Russia has its own partners, we have our own
[00:22:58] partners, strong partners, so I wouldn't like to classify
[00:23:02] who our strongest partner is, but I can name
[00:23:06] countries that are very important, strong partners of India,
[00:23:10] and Russia would be right up there. You are not very far away from where we
[00:23:13] are, recent reports suggested that India and China was
[00:23:17] still fighting or are still fighting. do you see
[00:23:21] this boundary dispute between the two countries settling
[00:23:25] anyt soon? because on the face of it we saw president
[00:23:29] she, he recently was in New Delhi, he was holding hands with the
[00:23:33] Indian prime minister, Indian prime minister also visited
[00:23:36] China recently in Tianjan during the SEO
[00:23:40] summit, but there's still this fiction which refuses to
[00:23:44] die, this is the military fiction, boundary issue is very
[00:23:47] important and... poets sort of
[00:23:51] leftover from history and my colonial masters,
[00:23:55] britain in this case, but the fact is that India and and
[00:23:59] China have been independent countries or India has been independent
[00:24:03] in 1947 and the people republic of China came into
[00:24:07] existence in 1949 and we've had
[00:24:11] very close relations right from the inception, if you
[00:24:14] recall
[00:24:15] you know hindini bhai etc. so I think what
[00:24:19] happened... in 1962 i think people forgotten that phase now, yeah,
[00:24:22] because because what happened in 1962 was
[00:24:26] betrayal which
[00:24:27] you know people in India at least would find it very
[00:24:31] difficult to to forget, so I think we really need
[00:24:35] both the countries need to see and it's
[00:24:37] i think in the interest of both the countries to resolve this
[00:24:40] issue really so that we can partner each other,
[00:24:44] we I don't think I mean Asia and the world is big
[00:24:48] enough to have to... you know big
[00:24:51] countries living side by side side and don't forget
[00:24:55] in history we've lived side by side, we've had
[00:24:58] exchanges for millennia
[00:25:01] religion,
[00:25:03] for instance buddhism went from India, when you had hunsang and
[00:25:07] fahan come here, they spoke about India
[00:25:11] and how India was so advanced etc in certain areas, so I
[00:25:14] think we have lot to give each other and
[00:25:18] we have a sort of we can. easily coexist
[00:25:21] peacefully, and for that I think we really need to address the boundary
[00:25:25] question. I thought we were getting there when we had decided the
[00:25:29] early part the century that
[00:25:31] you know there there would be some basic principles like no shifting of
[00:25:34] major population etc. But unfortunately that was we've had
[00:25:38] period, you mentioned visits, so whenever we've had a high level
[00:25:42] visit from China, there has been some distraction, if it's a lack of
[00:25:46] better word, incursion on the Chinese side, now that is not.
[00:25:50] coincidence, obviously it was something that was planned, so I think that
[00:25:53] doesn't help really. Lastly, ambassador Sena, it's a very chaotic
[00:25:57] world that we live in today, there are multiple wars going on
[00:26:01] and... India has resisted till now,
[00:26:05] there's not been a major impact on the country,
[00:26:09] you can compare that to India's neighborhood, for example, and I
[00:26:12] would say for me, that would be seen as one
[00:26:16] of Narendra Modi's biggest achievement that would go on his
[00:26:20] CV, but you think India can resist this
[00:26:24] pressure for very long, because the war they seem they going to continue,
[00:26:27] there's no end in sight at the moment at least, you always
[00:26:31] describe India as like a large oasis of stability
[00:26:34] a turbulent world,
[00:26:38] but I think in Hindi we have this phrase ki nazar lag
[00:26:42] gya, so I think what's happening is that they are
[00:26:45] inimic, I can't describe them any other way, inimical
[00:26:49] forces who really want to disrupt that that
[00:26:53] stability, the growth etc.
[00:26:55] and I think we need to be mindful of that,
[00:26:58] because we can't remain immune to what's happ.
[00:27:02] around us and yet at the same time we need to
[00:27:06] understand that for India to sort of
[00:27:09] become leading power, we need to
[00:27:12] focus on issues like economic development and growth, that
[00:27:16] should be a prime focus and until we are
[00:27:19] economic power, we can never
[00:27:23] be a superpower or major
[00:27:26] power, like the US and China are, so I
[00:27:30] think we we need to we because it's it's not
[00:27:34] easy, i said 1.4 billion people and we are democracy,
[00:27:38] people describe us as a chaotic democracy, but the fact is that we
[00:27:41] are democracy and we are proud of it, we have a large population, lot of
[00:27:45] mouths to feed, clothe, educate, so i think that demographic
[00:27:49] dividend to really be divident is something that
[00:27:53] we would depend very much on how we grow
[00:27:56] economically, so i think that is why the government has laid so much
[00:28:00] emphasis on economic growth and has dona, thank you very much
[00:28:04] for your time, been a pleasure, thank you, thank you for having
[00:28:06] me.
[00:29:15] Towards the end the 18th century, wave of decolonizations caused the
[00:29:19] colonizers to focus their attention on Africa. A period marked by the brutal
[00:29:22] legacy of European imperialism and the systematic
[00:29:26] exploitation of African peoples and resources. Many of our
[00:29:30] nations remain caught. in the grip of
[00:29:34] new-colonial systems. Africans must be the
[00:29:37] lords their own land, the masters their
[00:29:41] own resources.
[00:29:42] It is time to leave Africa and other developing countries
[00:29:45] alone. The west needs to stop with the foreign
[00:29:49] interference. They know that divided
[00:29:52] Africa is a weak Africa. Let us challenge the
[00:29:55] poisonous tongs that seek to divide us and build
[00:29:59] bridges of understanding instead. Today that
[00:30:03] opportunity lies in cooperation with nations across the global
[00:30:07] south and with allies like
[00:30:09] Russia.
[00:30:20] I apologize for being there and for speaking on impulse.
[00:30:24] Ukrainians who protested against the torture house that was run
[00:30:28] by the military are targeted by authorities with some
[00:30:32] already. detained and forced to apologize on
[00:30:35] camera.
[00:30:38] Distressing images as Ukraine's anti-corruption agents expose
[00:30:42] deep and lucrative ties between criminal
[00:30:45] organizations conducting kidnappings, beatings and drug
[00:30:48] trade and high ranking members the country's security
[00:30:52] services. Graphic footage of a savage attack by one
[00:30:55] such grouping is also released.