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[00:00:00] in our grocery stores and supermarkets etc. uh, put America
[00:00:03] first. well, again, that goes back to Americans feel like
[00:00:07] Israel is being put before America. and then
[00:00:11] finally, number four, change our relationship to Israel, well that's all about
[00:00:14] Israel. so when you really look at all four
[00:00:16] of these points, they all really point indirectly to Israel,
[00:00:20] which
[00:00:21] of makes people in the maga movement feel like, you sold us
[00:00:24] mg, you gave us mi
[00:00:26] GA. america first, means
[00:00:30] America first, and that doesn't mean caltowing or putting the
[00:00:34] needs, priorities or interests of any foreign
[00:00:37] government ahead
[00:00:39] of the United States of America, and the perception has
[00:00:43] been for years, that unfortunately BB
[00:00:46] Netanyahu helped coers the United States
[00:00:50] in into a foreign war that was not in the U.S.
[00:00:54] interest, did not uh implicate US national security interest
[00:00:58] and now has affected the domestic. economy and our sanding in the world, and
[00:01:02] this just done by recent polling shows that it's really
[00:01:05] affected
[00:01:06] in a negative fashion the US-Israel relationship, how
[00:01:09] Americans view Israel, how they view Netanyahu, and I
[00:01:13] would argue it affected
[00:01:15] of the recent election in Israel where looks like Netanyahu
[00:01:19] is on the way out, so this is something that we just have to look
[00:01:22] at, the
[00:01:23] the the democrats ran on what should have been the
[00:01:27] GOP's America first agenda. they simply
[00:01:31] used that playbook to their own uh good and that's why
[00:01:35] they won. they weren't running anything extremists like
[00:01:39] transgenderism or some of this cultural marxist nonsense and
[00:01:43] a wokism that they did the first time around, they were talking about cost of
[00:01:46] living, data centers, the the rise of AI and the
[00:01:50] dangers of AI, stopping foreign financing of wars,
[00:01:54] giving money abroad. what does that sound like, rick? that sounds like the president ice
[00:01:58] supported in 2016. billions of americans in in
[00:02:01] 2024, it doesn't sound like some sort of marxist
[00:02:04] revolution, yeah, it really is about promises made,
[00:02:08] promises kept, in this case it's promises made,
[00:02:11] promises not kept, and you know one of those places,
[00:02:15] we we talked a little bit about Iran, and Iran has just been a disaster, uh, there's
[00:02:19] no question, but the other disaster in many ways, and this
[00:02:22] is not so much Mr. Trump's fault, I think Mr. Trump has had the right
[00:02:26] idea here, but again, it's not about the idea, man, it's about...
[00:02:30] execution,
[00:02:31] you know, i played football my whole life, i played high school and college football, we used
[00:02:35] to have great practices all week long, and then we'd go
[00:02:38] of out on the field and get our asses kicked, well then it's a great thing to
[00:02:42] practice, it's a great thing to draw your xes and o's and we've got a
[00:02:46] great plan, who was
[00:02:47] it, george Foreman who said, everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the
[00:02:51] mouth, well in Iran has punched us in the mouth,
[00:02:55] and I hate to say it, so has the Russian military, we
[00:02:59] have spent four 500 billion dollars of your tax money and my tax
[00:03:03] money, america's tax money
[00:03:04] in a place called Ukraine that most Americans couldn't even find a
[00:03:07] map, and for what, and
[00:03:11] a why
[00:03:12] in a country that doesn't even elect its own president because he
[00:03:15] cancelled the election, something we would never do,
[00:03:18] and again, George, you know this, cuz you've kind of
[00:03:23] in suffered the slings and arrows of this thing, in many
[00:03:26] ways, this thing is not a problem that began in...
[00:03:30] 2022 when this war started,
[00:03:34] this is a problem that began a long time ago, and the mistake
[00:03:38] was the Washington's and Europe's for not
[00:03:42] recognizing that they should leave Ukraine alone and stop
[00:03:45] trying to force Ukraine into NATO, here's
[00:03:49] a really smart guy, I think you think he's a smart guy, John Mierscheimer, I think he's
[00:03:53] one
[00:03:53] of the smartest guys when it comes to this particular topic, talking about
[00:03:57] just that, that buffer zone that used to sep
[00:04:01] Europe and Russia, which was
[00:04:03] violated by Washington and
[00:04:07] Europeans.
[00:04:25] I went to Poland about three or four different times
[00:04:28] in and I told the... "the last thing you want
[00:04:32] to do is expand NATO into Ukraine
[00:04:36] buse it's going to be like a hornet's dest and it's going to cause
[00:04:40] unending trouble for Poland. I said, you have the
[00:04:44] ideal situation now and that you have buffer
[00:04:47] zone, Ukraine between Poland and Russia,
[00:04:51] and what you should
[00:04:52] do is everything you possibly can to maintain that buffer
[00:04:56] zone, and if you poke the bear and..."
[00:05:01] takes Ukraine, the bear is going to be right next door to you, and that is not going to be
[00:05:05] good, but we were not interested, the
[00:05:08] poles were not
[00:05:10] of interested, the Baltic states were not. interested and the
[00:05:13] Americans are certainly not interested, we wanted to march NATO right up to their
[00:05:17] doorstep, so my argument would be they should have been interested in the buffer
[00:05:21] zone, sort of getting in line with your points, but we
[00:05:25] weren't. as matter of fact, Biden went just the
[00:05:28] opposite, and so did NATO,
[00:05:31] essentially, can we put up map of this? I want our people at home
[00:05:35] to see this, I think this is important, right? what he's talking about is buffer
[00:05:39] zone, right? here, here's Ukraine a map,
[00:05:42] and I'm going to... show you,
[00:05:43] I don't know if you can see this, but I'm basically just something you know,
[00:05:46] obviously uh, there's Ukraine, there's the European Union,
[00:05:50] there's Russia, perfect buffer zone, and uh,
[00:05:54] the Mr. Putin at the time said, we're fine with Ukraine being
[00:05:58] a sovereign, neutral country, NATO said to
[00:06:02] Ukraine, no, you have to choose us or them,
[00:06:06] you have to choose us or them, and that's where it all
[00:06:09] started, that's what John Mimer is saying. George, to
[00:06:13] you, well, Ukraine has become a
[00:06:16] massive liability to US foreign policy
[00:06:20] interests and national security interests, including on the
[00:06:24] European continent, where I currently am in Rome, has
[00:06:28] felt the full brunt of what failed policies towards
[00:06:31] the Ukraine Russia conflict look like in real life. Inflation
[00:06:35] is absolutely out of this world here in Europe,
[00:06:39] gas prices are higher than ever, food costs are high. people can barely
[00:06:43] afford rent electricity is up because they decided to cut
[00:06:47] off Russian energy to its largest uh market which was a
[00:06:51] European Union and the European citizens are facing the
[00:06:54] full brunt of those failed policies and regarding the
[00:06:58] situation in terms of buffer zone, the United States would never
[00:07:02] allow either Russia, China or any other foreign
[00:07:05] country from permitting these ballistic
[00:07:09] missiles, nuclear weapons or emboldening... uh
[00:07:13] rogue groups with iridentist claims on Texas, New Mexico,
[00:07:17] California, that's what the Trump doctrine has been all about, it's
[00:07:21] actually about removing potential threats from
[00:07:23] the western hemisphere and keeping the United States isolated from
[00:07:27] any potential foreign threats, the Russian president, the Russian
[00:07:31] state viewed the situation in Ukraine very similarly the way that
[00:07:35] Taiwan and China view that relationship, the
[00:07:39] Europeans failed, Biden failed and the Trump administration. is
[00:07:42] attempting to resolve this very system, difficult
[00:07:46] conflict, and I believe they finally will rick, yeah, well, if not, it's going to be
[00:07:50] resolved on the ground, because I got to tell you, the reports that I'm getting is there's not much left of
[00:07:54] Ukraine pretty soon, I think the Russians finally decided, you no, we've been trying to
[00:07:58] fight the war on the front, not asymmetrically, but they started hitting
[00:08:02] our civilian and uh infrastructure as well as our
[00:08:05] energy infrastructure, they started hitting apartments with drones and the
[00:08:09] Russians have said, okay, two can play at that game, and "I think uh, I
[00:08:13] think the Ukrainians have overreached in this situation, and I think their own
[00:08:17] people are feeling it. As matter of fact, I that reminds
[00:08:21] me, George, I just filed uh, report
[00:08:24] yesterday, I was a golf course playing golf, and suddenly I saw one of
[00:08:28] my colleagues sent me this report about this
[00:08:31] situation with this 14-year-old boy who was found a
[00:08:35] detention center that nobody even knew about, it's like the secret place
[00:08:39] where they keep soldiers or people who don't want to go." the front line.
[00:08:43] did this report, it's already got 3, 400 thousand people who've been
[00:08:47] watching it and commenting on it. i want to play this for you cuz i think it speaks
[00:08:51] to the problems in Ukraine right now. take a
[00:08:54] listen. you see that right there? you see that? that's
[00:08:57] a 14-year-old boy. what the hell is a
[00:09:01] 14-year-old boy doing locked inside of
[00:09:05] basement? people are describing it as a
[00:09:08] torture chamber. the uh Ukrainians are saying:
[00:09:12] that uh he was part of a group of some 40
[00:09:16] individuals, all men who were being
[00:09:20] detained uh, apparently as they, but look
[00:09:23] at this kid, I mean he's 14 years
[00:09:26] old, how, how, what, what
[00:09:30] possible explanation could there be for
[00:09:34] detaining housing of a 14-year-old
[00:09:37] boy for a month in a
[00:09:41] basement? 'look at his eyes, I mean,
[00:09:45] he's been held captive, he's a
[00:09:48] child, he's
[00:09:50] a kid. Yeah, the reaction of this has been
[00:09:53] crazy on the internet, that that thing went viral, but the
[00:09:57] question is, who am I? I'm Rick Sanchez, some guy with a
[00:10:01] TV show a correspondent. Why do I have to say this? Where's
[00:10:05] NATO, where's the EU? Where are people in the west saying, we're not gonna,
[00:10:08] we're not going to continue to send money to these people if they're doing stuff like this.'
[00:10:13] Rick, if you are an individual or a country that believes in
[00:10:17] religious freedom, the democratic process and
[00:10:21] the good the Ukrainian people, you should absolut
[00:10:25] stop supporting the Zelinsky regime, because what Zelinsky's
[00:10:29] regime is doing here is they are evicerating the
[00:10:33] democratic process in Ukraine when which they've
[00:10:36] suspended elections, the United States held elections during
[00:10:40] the civil war, there's no excuse for Zelinsky not to
[00:10:43] hold elections against the will the people, which has been a key theme of
[00:10:47] our entire conversation, shutting down churches, I'm an
[00:10:51] orthodox Christian, that's a personal insult to my... and
[00:10:55] millions of other orthodox christians around the world who believe that their
[00:10:59] own religion is being attacked in Ukraine, that's something
[00:11:03] that you that Zelinski is doing, and also the people like this
[00:11:06] 14-year-old boy and countless others, which are
[00:11:10] being forced into conscription, uh, lost, killed in the
[00:11:14] battlefield, a war that they do not want to partake
[00:11:17] in, for what, to expand NATO, something that is not going to
[00:11:21] happen, to enrich Zelinsky's cronies, to... rich
[00:11:25] Zelinsky himself, that's something that the world,
[00:11:29] I believe, has finally come to understand, the Trump
[00:11:33] administration has certainly understood it, and why I believe that
[00:11:36] this conflict will only end when Zelinski is out the
[00:11:40] picture, and hopefully it's sooner rather than later.
[00:11:44] Yeah, and and I think you used a keyword there, George, when you said
[00:11:47] undemocratic, I i think that's important. By the way, most countries in the
[00:11:51] world, you can make an argument in one way or another undemocratic, everybody says they...
[00:11:55] and in many ways they aren't, but when you could point to very specific things like
[00:11:59] this incident and the fact that there were, i think
[00:12:02] something like 200 people who were led to this
[00:12:06] detention center for lack of different description of it, i have no idea what this
[00:12:10] is, and and i've this situation, and
[00:12:14] yeah, it's interesting to note that
[00:12:18] in this moment make lot of
[00:12:22] propaganda for make
[00:12:26] for forgive this image to to the other
[00:12:29] countries in the European Union that Ukraine is democrat
[00:12:33] country, there there is the freedom, totally
[00:12:36] freedom and that Zelensky is democrat leader,
[00:12:40] but in fact there is very strictly
[00:12:44] repression and what's happened
[00:12:47] there yesterday and two days ago with this
[00:12:51] arrest it's the demonstration of this.
[00:12:55] Andrea, Ukrainian police claim they've identified 130 people
[00:12:59] involved in the protest against this torture house in
[00:13:03] Kieve, some them have already been detained, why are we seeing
[00:13:06] immediate backlash directed at the protesters instead of those
[00:13:10] who created and supported the torture facility in the first
[00:13:13] place? well uh
[00:13:16] you know the security service of
[00:13:20] Ukraine make this uh make some steps, first
[00:13:24] steps the first step was to try to
[00:13:27] describe this protest, this um
[00:13:31] episode as a product of Russian
[00:13:35] propaganda, they try to identify every single
[00:13:39] person that take part in this assault against
[00:13:42] this structures, this detention
[00:13:45] center of azov
[00:13:48] and try to spread misinformation about it,
[00:13:52] the second step is to... is try
[00:13:56] to investigate about some
[00:13:59] relations of every person
[00:14:03] with the telegram channels
[00:14:06] or or the underground circuit in Ukraine against the
[00:14:10] mobilization and against the peace, because the
[00:14:13] first statement of security
[00:14:16] service and asov was that someone in
[00:14:20] this scroll had um was linked with
[00:14:26] pro peace channel, they called pro peace has
[00:14:30] negative things, so in ukraine for
[00:14:34] for the state service and for the commander of azov
[00:14:38] and someone in the armed force be
[00:14:41] supporting
[00:14:42] the the peace is something negative and this
[00:14:46] is very very explicate for
[00:14:50] me about the situation and the
[00:14:53] political climate that "the people need to uh to
[00:14:57] leave in this moment. It has been several days since this
[00:15:01] torture house was exposed, and
[00:15:03] we we aren't seen any investigation, at least not yet into the site or the people involved,
[00:15:07] and
[00:15:07] in fact we're seeing an active push in the west to label this as Russian
[00:15:11] propaganda. Why do you think that is, and and is this something that Kiev will
[00:15:14] ultimately be able to sweep under the rug once again?
[00:15:18] Of course, it's necessary now for the Ukrainian authority to
[00:15:22] describe this event as ' the
[00:15:25] result of Russian propaganda or Russian misinformation,
[00:15:29] because it's very uncomfortable for them to
[00:15:33] show at the their western partners
[00:15:37] that... Ukraine existing such structures, I
[00:15:40] note from from my position, now I'm located
[00:15:44] in Italy, and here almost nobody
[00:15:48] take this news
[00:15:51] and the main