RUSSIA1 — Moskva. Kreml. Putin
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[00:00:00] fund, where people deposited vouchers in exchange for
[00:00:03] shares. Almost all of them disappeared, leaving
[00:00:06] nothing. Kashpirovsky is a small
[00:00:09] fish. Now, the dry accounting
[00:00:13] of the catastrophe. January 2, 1992.
[00:00:17] Price liberalization, shock therapy. Within a year,
[00:00:20] inflation reached approximately 2,600%.
[00:00:24] Savings accumulated
[00:00:27] over decades burned up in
[00:00:30] months. 1993,
[00:00:34] inflation 840%.
[00:00:37] 1994 -
[00:00:40] 214%. By the mid-nineties,
[00:00:44] salaries were delayed for
[00:00:46] 60% of workers. At some
[00:00:50] enterprises for up to 6 months. Tires need to be
[00:00:53] sold. I'm not going to carry tires home.
[00:00:57] Wheels. But you need to eat, you need to eat.
[00:01:00] Barter offsets, according to
[00:01:03] the reformers themselves, withdrew from monetary circulation
[00:01:06] up to 40-45%
[00:01:09] of the economy. This is no longer a misfortune, it is the collapse
[00:01:12] of the state. August 17,
[00:01:15] 1998, default.
[00:01:18] GKO - a pyramid, and these are state
[00:01:21] treasury bonds,
[00:01:25] choked, half the banks collapsed.
[00:01:28] Inflation for the year 84.5%.
[00:01:30] The default, by the way, completed
[00:01:33] what the pyramids started, the last
[00:01:36] deposits burned.
[00:01:38] A detail that is shameful to recall: the army
[00:01:42] following victory did not receive monetary
[00:01:46] allowances for years, officers' wives traded in markets to
[00:01:50] feed their children, garrisons survived on
[00:01:53] subsidiary farms and alms from neighboring
[00:01:56] villages. Shortages,
[00:02:32] a lack of everyday goods by
[00:02:35] 1985. Items of permanent
[00:02:38] deficit in the USSR for a long time became
[00:02:42] meat, butter, fish, beer,
[00:02:46] candy, toothpaste, dishes, furniture, refrigerators,
[00:02:49] suits, cars, shoes, building materials, toilet
[00:02:53] paper, and so on everywhere. From February 1989,
[00:02:57] mass strikes and hunger strikes began.
[00:04:30] regardless of Moscow, to conclude international
[00:04:33] treaties, and even to deploy foreign troops on its territory.
[00:04:37] Mordovia rejected the Russian constitution and
[00:04:40] went for a complete break in relations with the Kremlin. The map
[00:04:44] of Russia, like a torn rag.
[00:04:47] The first millionaires and billionaires, some
[00:04:50] oligarchs, for whom everything is allowed. The first
[00:04:53] president of Russia does not appear in public for
[00:04:57] a long time, and these absences, in Russian
[00:05:00] sickness, are called "working with
[00:05:03] documents." Suddenly, in the
[00:05:06] 1996 elections, the dancing Yeltsin
[00:05:10] was strong, and the numbers...
[00:05:44] the scourge of abortions. In 1995,
[00:05:47] for example, only 2,766 registered abortions
[00:05:50] for state statistics were performed.
[00:05:53] The number of children born
[00:05:56] in 1995 was half that
[00:06:00] - 1,363.
[00:06:03] But then came freedom, borders opened,
[00:06:07] and brains moved west, and to the east
[00:06:10] went shuttle traders.
[00:06:42] the most correct and almost the only way to
[00:06:46] overcome the devastation was to find oneself in
[00:06:49] a completely different, non-Soviet life, where
[00:06:53] there was no cursed deficit, where you were
[00:06:56] respected, where there was democracy, and therefore
[00:06:59] freedom. For the sake of completeness, a couple
[00:07:02] of coups: August 1991,
[00:07:06] the self-proclaimed State Committee for the State of Emergency
[00:07:09] (GKChP), which, in addition to the speaker of the Soviet
[00:07:12] parliament, also included the heads of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and
[00:07:16] the KGB. The GKChP brought tanks
[00:07:19] into Moscow, and the President of the USSR,
[00:07:22] who was on vacation in Crimea, was placed under
[00:07:26] house arrest, with his communications
[00:07:34] the USSR, but at the same time, there was no real plan,
[00:07:37] and the people followed the recently
[00:07:40] elected President of Russia, Yeltsin, for whom
[00:07:44] the Soviet Union represented no
[00:07:48] value. The GKChP dissolved in a couple
[00:07:51] of days. In the street clashes, three
[00:07:54] people died. Anatoly Kashpirovsky, meanwhile, traveled
[00:07:57] around the country and gave the masses hypnotic
[00:08:00] commands. Only
[00:08:04] your presence
[00:08:07] is required.
[00:08:12] there was no harmony. There was no time
[00:08:15] or place for anyone in power to learn the laws
[00:08:18] of democracy and the laws of the market, and they were already
[00:08:22] at the helm. The abscess burst in October
[00:08:26] 1993, when the President of Russia, the Russian
[00:08:29] parliament, the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR, declared
[00:08:33] each other outlawed. Our parliament,
[00:08:35] headed by Ruslan Khasbulatov,
[00:08:39] met in the current government residence, which
[00:08:42] the people called the White House, in
[00:08:45] Moscow. Yeltsin cut the Gordian knot
[00:08:49] by shelling the White House with
[00:08:51] tanks.
[00:08:57] The parliament was shot at point-blank range from the bridge across
[00:09:00] the Moscow River near the Hotel Ukraine. The White
[00:09:04] House was stormed by special forces. During the
[00:09:07] events, officially 158
[00:09:10] people died. The US was for Yeltsin, he suited
[00:09:14] them, so at the international level, no one
[00:09:17] particularly condemned the shooting of the parliament.
[00:09:21] In general, if we talk about Kashpirovsky's time, about what
[00:09:24] influenced the psychological state of society,
[00:09:28] why and what we were like then,
[00:09:32] then, of course, we cannot overlook the shocking capture
[00:09:36] of Basayev's terrorists of the hospital in Budyonnovsk, in
[00:09:39] Stavropol Krai, June.
[00:09:43] In 1995, 1,200
[00:09:46] people were held hostage. It must
[00:09:49] be acknowledged that State Duma deputy Anatoly Kashpirovsky
[00:09:53] participated in negotiations with the terrorists and spent
[00:09:56] some time in the captured hospital. We
[00:09:59] walk, walk, walk, we reach the exit, I think what should I do,
[00:10:03] I need to stay, I was a deputy, so they probably can't shoot
[00:10:07] me, but in the end I have fame, that's
[00:10:10] the second thing, I... guys, I'm staying,
[00:10:14] it's a big risk.
[00:10:17] Well, and about us further, the general
[00:10:20] basic philosophy that was professed in
[00:10:23] the Kremlin was...
[00:10:39] We don't need an army, since no one threatens us and
[00:10:43] there's no one to fight. The police, in general, are also
[00:10:46] unnecessary, because this is a Soviet repressive apparatus. Now
[00:10:49] there is democracy and no repressions.
[00:10:53] Freedom seemed absolute to the
[00:10:56] point of ugliness. Again, with the help of television,
[00:11:00] various sorcerers and magicians spread. The loophole here
[00:11:03] was folk healing, non-traditional
[00:11:06] medicine. The state even issued
[00:11:10] licenses for this. In Kashpirovsky's era, a woman
[00:11:13] of a fatal image, Dzhuna Davitashvili, gained immense
[00:11:17] popularity. Intrigue was maintained by active
[00:11:20] rumors that the Georgian healer's services
[00:11:24] were sought by... General Secretary Leonid
[00:11:27] Brezhnev, film directors Andrei Tarkovsky and Federico
[00:11:30] Fellini, actor Robert De Niro, and other
[00:11:33] celebrities. There was no confirmation of this, however,
[00:11:37] but in 1997,
[00:11:41] Dzhuna declared herself queen
[00:11:50] Longo, presenting himself as a master of white magic,
[00:11:54] Longo appeared on television all in white with many
[00:11:57] chains, conducting magical sessions,
[00:12:01] practicing love spells, bringing people back
[00:12:05] from the dead.
[00:12:07] The era of Kashpirovsky would not be complete without
[00:12:11] a screen star like Grigory Grabovoy, who in
[00:12:14] 1991 declared himself
[00:12:17] a clairvoyant. He engaged in all sorts of activities, from
[00:12:21] resurrecting children (money first) to distant...
[00:13:15] Russia is a paradise for
[00:13:19] sects.
[00:13:21] So Kashpirovsky operated in such a context, and in such
[00:13:25] an environment. While we are talking here,
[00:13:29] Kashpirovsky's body in a lacquered
[00:13:32] coffin, packed in a plywood box, is moving somewhere
[00:13:36] through transit countries to Ukraine for
[00:13:39] burial in his native Vinnytsia, next to
[00:13:42] his mother. So, that's essentially the technical
[00:13:46] point of that era, which, fortunately,
[00:13:49] has long passed.
[00:13:52] And if we're talking about wonders,
[00:13:55] the biggest wonder of the late nineties was the appearance in the country
[00:13:59] of a team that proved capable of systematically
[00:14:02] overcoming this entire nightmare.
[00:14:06] We won't mention names; we all know everything anyway,
[00:14:09] living, fortunately, in a completely
[00:14:13] different era.
[00:14:15] With that, we say goodbye until next week. Immediately after
[00:14:18] us, the program Moscow, Kremlin-Putin,
[00:14:22] where my colleague Pavel Zarubin, as
[00:14:25] usual, will tell about big politics
[00:14:28] more interestingly than others.
[00:14:40] Again, we will surprise you with new,
[00:14:42] vivid footage. Great
[00:14:46] topic.
[00:14:49] Good evening, a conversation with Donald Trump, presenting awards
[00:14:52] to educators, two international summits. in
[00:14:55] Turkmenistan. The President's week was busy,
[00:14:58] vivid, and widely discussed in the world media. A special resonance
[00:15:02] was caused by the telephone conversation between Vladimir Putin and
[00:15:05] Donald Trump. For an hour and a half, the leaders discussed
[00:15:08] Ukraine, Iran, bilateral relations, and supplies
[00:15:11] of oil and petroleum products to American and world
[00:15:14] markets. Teacher's Day was a very important and warm meeting at
[00:15:18] the Kremlin for the President. Vladimir Putin presented
[00:15:21] state awards to educators who raised
[00:15:25] our heroes, participants in the SVO. Also this week, the President
[00:15:29] celebrated his birthday with close family and friends. Among the guests was former German Chancellor Gerhard
[00:15:32] Schröder, which caused a storm of emotions among some
[00:15:35] Western politicians.
[00:16:37] from the USA. A few hours before the leaders' conversation, a special
[00:16:41] plane took off from Turkmenistan. And the last question, since we've already started,
[00:16:45] President Trump said that he would like to call Putin, but it seems
[00:16:49] he didn't. But that doesn't mean he won't. Sometimes,
[00:16:53] from some statements by Trump, it seemed
[00:16:56] that they had calls that we didn't know about.
[00:17:00] Could a call have already taken place that we don't
[00:17:03] know about? One that you don't know about, maybe it could have?
[00:17:08] it turned out that our assumptions were correct. On October
[00:17:11] 7, the American side, in addition to congratulating Putin on his birthday,
[00:17:15] initiated new telephone conversations. It's understandable that after
[00:17:18] returning from the CIS summit, it would be most convenient. Trump
[00:17:21] postponed some of his previously scheduled
[00:17:24] events for today, and
[00:17:27] such a telephone conversation took place. Just a few hours before
[00:17:31] the conversation, presidential aide Ushakov shows Putin some
[00:17:34] folder.
[00:17:45] and a few minutes later, the presidential aide
[00:17:47] approached
[00:17:52] his boss again, and soon Ushakov himself
[00:17:55] told journalists that Putin and Trump were so
[00:17:58] engrossed in the phone call that it lasted an hour and a half, and
[00:18:02] Trump, quote, is ready to continue communication
[00:18:06] with Vladimir Putin today, and in the evening,
[00:18:09] today, and at night, the next
[00:18:12] day. Who eventually hung up, if no one wanted to,
[00:18:16] simultaneously, right simultaneously.
[00:18:33] The Russian side confirmed its readiness to supply
[00:18:37] oil and petroleum products to the American and world markets,
[00:18:40] confident that this will positively affect the entire global
[00:18:44] economy. The USA lifts sanctions on Russian
[00:18:47] diesel supplies until at least April, which makes it even more interesting to recall Putin's recent
[00:18:51] statements at the Valdai Club meeting. Or they
[00:18:55] tell us: let them stop striking your
[00:18:58] refineries, and you stop striking their ships, and let
[00:19:02] them export civilian cargo of agricultural products. But what about
[00:19:05] our other civilian cargo, such as oil and petroleum products?
[00:19:09] They will stop the strikes, so there will be
[00:19:13] more diesel, which is so needed, let's say, in the United States. We
[00:19:16] will have more, we already have enough diesel, but it will
[00:19:20] not reach the world market because there are prohibitions, sanctions
[00:19:23] against our oil and petroleum products, sanctions
[00:19:27] against insurance, freight prices are rising. How will
[00:19:30] our diesel reach the world market while sanctions remain?
[00:19:34] No way. But in Washington, as they say, new opportunities
[00:20:37] arose, more money, access to infrastructure,
[00:20:41] a mask to strike deep into Russia. He demands
[00:20:44] money for air defense, he demands money for long-range
[00:20:48] weapons, and so on.
[00:21:20] A few hours before his conversation with Trump, Putin met personally with
[00:21:23] Iranian President Pezeshkian. Of course, the most
[00:21:26] acute problem today is the situation in the region. We know that
[00:21:30] Iran is making real attempts
[00:21:32] to end the conflict that broke out in the region, not through
[00:21:36] its fault, not through Iran's fault. He again came up with new proposals for
[00:21:40] resolving the situation, and by peaceful means. We are ready to do
[00:21:43] everything in our power to help you in resolving
[00:21:46] this situation.
[00:21:50] participated in the negotiations, the USA always attacked us in the middle of negotiations,
[00:21:54] but we never left the negotiating table. I would like to thank
[00:21:57] you for your position in the region and at the UN level. Thanks to
[00:22:01] your help, they failed to impose their unilateral
[00:22:05] approach on us. European media have been in shock for 3 days, both from the diesel
[00:22:08] agreements and from this photo,
[00:22:11] taken on Putin's birthday. The Kremlin reported that
[00:22:15] the President, seeing the media report about Gerhard
[00:22:18] Schröder, saw the media report as if he had turned on the TV.
[00:22:22] I'll tell you honestly, yesterday I met with the President,
[00:22:26] and he said that he "turned
[00:22:29] on the TV on his birthday morning, and saw Schröder walking
[00:22:33] in Moscow in a supermarket." He said, "I
[00:22:35] didn't understand what was happening at all, but I asked to contact him and invite him,"
[00:22:39] and in the evening, he was one of the few participants
[00:22:42] in the celebration of the President's
[00:22:45] birthday.
[00:22:47] I was very pleased to come here to convey congratulations on
[00:22:51] the occasion of the Russian President's birthday. Yes, we are
[00:22:54] friends, is that
[00:22:55] bad?
[00:23:05] As for Schröder, Germany should be proud
[00:23:09] of people like him. He is a true son of his people,
[00:23:12] he primarily thinks about the interests of the German people. I assure
[00:23:16] you, with every decision, always.
[00:24:50] How do you deal with each other? The President speaks German well, which
[00:24:53] helps him express his thoughts more clearly and distinctly. For
[00:24:57] me, Mr. Bunaas, the Chancellor,
[00:25:00] is the only one of my colleagues, Western
[00:25:03] politicians, and Eastern ones too, with whom I can truly
[00:25:07] speak the same language, both literally and figuratively.
[00:25:11] This, of course, contributes
[00:25:14] to better mutual understanding,
[00:25:17] it seems to me, on a universal human level, but...
[00:25:50] and trust between Russia and Germany certainly reached its peak.
[00:25:53] It's hard to imagine now, but in the early 2000s, at the Piskaryovskoye
[00:25:57] Cemetery in St. Petersburg, where the victims of the blockade are buried,
[00:26:00] the FRG anthem was played.
[00:26:09] Putin and Schröder, leaders of countries that once fought,
[00:26:12] together laid flowers. We were indeed together at
[00:26:15] the Piskaryovskoye Memorial Cemetery, and with us there was a group
[00:26:18] of veterans, both from Germany and from Russia. We paid
[00:26:22] tribute and respect
[00:26:24] to the victims of World War II. This is a very important gesture.
[00:26:28] After this ceremony, a group of veterans, German and Russian
[00:26:31] veterans of World War II, together went
[00:26:35] to the cemetery of German servicemen
[00:26:38] here near St. Petersburg. I think this is a very good signal
[00:26:42] given to us by the older generation, who fought
[00:26:45] each other. At the same time, in the early 2000s, these
[00:26:48] words were also heard. The FRG Chancellor said that he was ashamed of this
[00:26:51] past, and I understand that, but that
[00:26:55] is the past, and today I want
[00:26:59] to say that many of us should be ashamed of today.
[00:27:02] We recently saw a disgraceful outburst in the Canadian parliament, where a Nazi was applauded. So I want to say,
[00:27:13] these spores, the spores of these diseases, unfortunately, are not destroyed.
[00:27:20] the further away from Schröder, the
[00:27:24] closer to Enton
[00:27:27] Roth Clave
[00:27:29] of the Canadian Parliament.
[00:28:03] Russian presidential press secretary. Where is the Russian stove?
[00:28:06] The Russian
[00:28:08] stove, as it were, is the residence of the President of the Russian Federation.
[00:28:12] So, in the morning Schröder was in a Russian store, and in the evening he was
[00:28:15] at Putin's place for his birthday, with a very small
[00:28:19] circle. Very few people, very few. I want to remind
[00:28:22] you that on his birthday, Putin had almost a dozen international
[00:28:26] phone calls. Only in the evening could his family, friends,
[00:28:30] and loved ones congratulate him on his birthday. But Gerhard Schröder is about
[00:28:33] to face another wave of indignation, most likely in
[00:28:36] Europe. Yes, yes, and the President asked
[00:28:39] him, "How do you feel about this, if
[00:28:43] it happens, if we make it public?" Because, well,
[00:28:47] it's quite a story, I don't even know how to characterize it. It's sweet,
[00:28:51] yes, human. And Schroeder
[00:28:55] said, "No problem, de Gaulle,"
[00:28:58] then further, Mitterrand, in modern times.
[00:29:03] Chirac in Germany, Brandt,
[00:29:07] Kohl, and Schröder, by the way, I would put
[00:29:11] in this category. These are people who had their own opinions and
[00:29:13] the courage to fight for that own
[00:29:17] opinion, to express it and to talk about it, to try to
[00:29:20] implement it in practical work. As for
[00:29:24] NATO, this is a very sensitive issue. And Germany has always
[00:29:27] maintained that Russia's interests must
[00:29:30] be taken into account.
[00:30:04] The opening of the Nord Stream at that time was celebrated with beer,
[00:30:06] do not delay,
[00:30:09] oh-oh-oh, and such footage in big politics speaks
[00:30:13] volumes. The volume of energy that will be supplied to
[00:30:16] Germany is comparable to
[00:30:19] the operation of eleven nuclear power plants. We did it and
[00:30:22] achieved it, despite active opposition. Here sits
[00:30:26] the former Chancellor of Germany, Mr. Schröder. He
[00:30:29] knows that during the construction of the first project,
[00:30:34] it was exactly the same as now. The United States was categorically
[00:30:37] against it, mobilizing all forces in Europe, and in
[00:30:40] Germany itself, so that this project would not be implemented. We did it, and now
[00:30:44] everyone is happy that
[00:30:46] it works so reliably and stably.
[00:30:50] Let a German citizen open their wallet and see. Let them answer
[00:30:53] the question: are they ready to pay three to five times more? If
[00:30:57] they don't want to do that, let them thank Mr.
[00:31:00] Schröder, because this is his result.