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[00:03:53] St. Petersburg.
[00:03:57] Next on our air is the program America.
[00:04:03] This is America, a program about a country that is difficult
[00:04:06] to understand.
[00:04:07] Hello.
[00:04:14] The UN Headquarters is not only the Security Council chamber
[00:04:17] and lively corridors, but also a whole
[00:04:21] open-air sculpture museum. From
[00:04:24] monuments donated to the world organization
[00:04:27] by winners and defeated, one can
[00:04:30] study recent history, or one can
[00:04:34] think about the future near them. We
[00:04:37] went on an unusual excursion with
[00:04:40] Russian Permanent Representative Vasily Nebenzya.
[00:04:44] Press tents, fences to separate journalists from delegation
[00:04:48] members. The headquarters of Nastriver, as usual, changes for
[00:04:51] the worse during the high-level week, but no
[00:04:55] architectural spam is able to overshadow the main
[00:04:58] masterpieces.
[00:05:12] For you, probably, Vuchetich is still
[00:05:15] the most native, as for a Volgograder or as for
[00:05:18] a Stalingradite? As for a Volgograder, I was born already
[00:05:22] when the city was renamed, my sister is a
[00:05:25] Stalingradite, and I am a Volgograder. As
[00:05:28] you rightly said, this is a child of the Soviet
[00:05:31] Union, from Ukraine, it
[00:05:33] has an interesting origin, but a Russian is
[00:05:37] not someone who is Russian by blood, but a Russian is someone who feels
[00:05:41] that way. The Motherland
[00:05:53] in Kyiv, and the monumental Motherland
[00:05:55] Calls is exactly on Mamaev Kurgan, in
[00:05:58] the small homeland of our permanent representative, who from New York
[00:06:02] followed the trips of Trump's emissaries. How do you
[00:06:06] assess, well, if not a new
[00:06:09] beginning, then at least an attempt to start.
[00:06:43] I think it would be fair to say that I
[00:06:46] feel tired of this question, including from the sponsors of
[00:06:50] Kyiv, they are forced to ritually keep this topic
[00:06:53] afloat, holding at
[00:06:57] least one meeting a month so that no one forgets, now
[00:07:00] the high-level week is coming, of course,
[00:07:04] the central event of the French presidency will be
[00:07:07] a meeting on Ukraine with the participation of Zelensky, but I think everyone
[00:07:11] is already...
[00:07:32] range, Soviet SS-20 and American
[00:07:35] Pershings, symbolizing the INF
[00:07:38] Treaty. The treaty the US broke in...
[00:08:12] The author, the famous Tsereteli, symbolizes
[00:08:15] agreements in the field of arms control and
[00:08:18] disarmament, unfortunately this system is almost completely
[00:08:22] destroyed by the American side, well, you said that they are actively
[00:08:26] rearming, the news of the last day was a real sensation,
[00:08:29] where they announced that they have already put
[00:08:33] weapons into space, but we have a treaty that
[00:08:35] limits weapons in space, not the first deployment of weapons in
[00:08:39] space, yes, they even declared the moon
[00:08:42] American territory, missile fragments, treaty
[00:08:45] fragments, well, how can we trust them at all, how can we negotiate with them, where
[00:08:49] are the limits? Well, as their president said, trust but verify, now, unfortunately,
[00:08:53] the system, the system
[00:08:56] of verification, does not exist as such, it is absent for the most
[00:08:59] part, and there is almost nothing left to verify. In general,
[00:09:03] the romantic era ended, it began
[00:09:06] here at the foot of the Berlin Wall, these three concrete
[00:09:09] sections once stood on a plot on...
[00:09:50] Well, what awaits us now, that is, will Europe come to its senses, will
[00:09:53] it recover, or will they continue to want to believe in it, but the current political
[00:09:57] elites do not give
[00:09:59] such rosy expectations,
[00:10:03] they are preparing for war with Russia in 2030,
[00:10:06] a slightly , apparently,
[00:10:09] inadequate minister at that moment.
[00:10:55] minority, but the silent majority
[00:10:58] got tired of it, by voting in regional elections in
[00:11:02] Germany, this majority seems to be shedding the burden
[00:11:05] of the past, like this bronze figure. Vasily
[00:11:08] Alekseevich, I could not pass by this sculpture, because I
[00:11:12] saw, perhaps, this is the only place in
[00:11:14] New York, and rarely anywhere else in the world, where there is still
[00:11:18] a combination of GDR, the sculpture is called
[00:11:21] "Rising" or "Awakening", very...
[00:11:25] current, I don't know if this can be brought,
[00:11:28] it's like a testament
[00:11:30] to the victory of the Alternative for Germany in
[00:11:33] Saxony-Anhalt, but the fact that the population of Europe,
[00:11:37] of course, demonstrates rejection of the policy that
[00:11:41] their leadership pursues, and
[00:11:43] this is not only in Germany, in other countries we see these
[00:11:46] phenomena, that is, the people are awakening from this
[00:11:49] lethargic idiocy that has
[00:11:53] gripped the ruling circles of Europe. Of course, and do you see this
[00:11:56] emerging uncertainty in your German
[00:11:59] colleagues here? I don't interact much with them, because they
[00:12:02] have post-traumatic stress disorder after losing in the Security
[00:12:05] Council, for which they blamed Russia and me
[00:12:08] personally, as the person who prevented their election, although of course, all
[00:12:12] of this was not true in the sense that they themselves asked for such
[00:12:15] a result, well, I don't know how they feel
[00:12:19] now, I don't think they will see, there is no GDR, there is no
[00:12:23] Yugoslavia, that's it... The rider with an olive branch and a globe,
[00:12:27] cast by Antun Augustinčić in
[00:12:29] Zagreb, on a marble pedestal from the island of
[00:12:32] Brač, as if still trying to guard the Yalta
[00:12:36] world order. Brač is exactly on the Adriatic, where,
[00:12:39] according to Churchill's Fulton speech, the edge of the
[00:12:43] Iron Curtain fell. The threat will come from its
[00:12:47] outer side. I would not say that with the collapse of
[00:12:51] Yugoslavia the Yalta world was destroyed, but it was...
[00:13:25] that is, when it was convenient for them, they
[00:13:27] twisted everything, that's how it is, because in the case
[00:13:31] of Kosovo's independence,
[00:13:34] they pulled out of the charter the article on self-determination,
[00:13:37] although there was no self-determination,
[00:13:41] referendum, plebiscite, there was a decision of parliament, then
[00:13:45] confirmed by the UN International Court, in the case of
[00:13:48] Crimea, they seized upon the principle of territorial integrity
[00:13:51] of the state, however, often the UN Charter is not at all...
[00:14:55] this huge nation, an entire civilization,
[00:14:58] the Gulf states complain about
[00:15:01] Iranian missiles falling on them,
[00:15:04] Iranian missiles in response to attacks, Americans strike at bases that
[00:15:08] are located in these countries, and you want to ask a question about
[00:15:12] this, but what, son, did your
[00:15:15] Yankees help you, they were supposed to ensure the security of these
[00:15:18] states, today I am openly told that
[00:15:22] they have begun to be disappointed in the ability of
[00:15:25] Americans to provide a security umbrella on their side. Americans
[00:15:29] are becoming a destabilizing factor. And the presence of their
[00:15:32] bases is becoming. They often were such,
[00:15:36] and continue to be.
[00:16:12] you know that Trump threatens countries that support Iran, in his view, with the most severe
[00:16:15] economic measures,
[00:16:19] but here, at least, no one approaches
[00:16:22] me with this question. Returning to the pistol, I wanted to say that we
[00:16:26] all want, of course,
[00:16:30] peace, but unfortunately, the history of mankind is
[00:16:34] the history of wars, but we must do everything in our power to...
[00:17:07] from this chaos will be born a new cosmos, new,
[00:17:11] new relations between states, which will not be those that we see
[00:17:14] now, if you ask me what kind of world I want to see in the
[00:17:18] future, I want to see the world as a universe,
[00:17:22] existing, and a community of people and peace,
[00:17:26] as what in Slavic languages is translated by the word "peace", that is, the absence of
[00:17:29] war, well, you are not a supporter of the popular concept,
[00:17:33] for example, of the current US administration about peace through strength, through
[00:17:37] one.
[00:17:45] The entire history of mankind testifies to this path, through which in a matter of days leaders will enter the UN skyscraper, motorcades arrive here, we
[00:17:48] go with Vasily Nebenzya to the Japanese Peace Bell
[00:17:51] Bunshō, it was cast from coins donated
[00:17:55] by children from sixty countries, it rings twice
[00:17:58] a year on the day of the spring equinox and before the next
[00:18:01] session of the General Assembly, as soon as you mentioned the bell, immediately:
[00:18:05] вы заговорили про колоколу сразу:
[00:18:37] also deputy Secretary-General for, so to speak,
[00:18:40] for positions, I don't know the names of at least
[00:18:43] twenty of them, I don't know what they are doing, so here, of course, there is a wide field
[00:18:47] for maneuver, this is, of course, all, as
[00:18:51] it is said, excuse my unparliamentary arms in the coffers of
[00:18:53] the American side, who want to rationalize
[00:18:57] the activities of the UN, the current Secretary-General Guterres rang the Japanese
[00:19:01] bell, by the way, for the last time this
[00:19:04] year.
[00:19:08] The new Secretary-General is expected to take office in January
[00:19:11] of next year, the difficult, not always
[00:19:14] clear election process is already in full swing, Nebenzya
[00:19:17] tells us. The abstract sculpture has a unified form, this is in memory
[00:19:21] of the second head of the world organization, Dag Hammarskjöld,
[00:19:25] who died in office. The process is a little
[00:19:28] slow, it's also difficult to say about
[00:19:31] the favorite, because these
[00:19:33] votes in the so-called indicative...
[00:19:38] polls, they do not give an idea of
[00:19:41] the real situation, because you can be the leader of this
[00:19:45] colorless race, get 14 votes, for example,
[00:19:49] even 15, although 15 is already like
[00:19:52] a pass, one might say, but still
[00:19:55] it is determined by the recommendation of the Security Council,
[00:19:58] when you get a majority of votes, including all
[00:20:01] five members of the Security Council, in the so-called
[00:20:05] "colored" voting, it would be good to elect a Secretary-General
[00:20:08] who would understand the role of the Secretary-General
[00:20:11] as the chief administrative officer of this
[00:20:14] organization, a person who must possess, in accordance with Article
[00:20:17] 100 of the UN Charter, the highest competence,
[00:20:21] impartiality, and other qualities
[00:20:24] that an international official must possess, this must not
[00:20:27] be a person who will be in someone's pocket,
[00:20:31] including Russia, yes, he must be objective, he must
[00:20:35] serve all member states. Thank you, Vasily Alekseevich, for this
[00:20:39] interview, this was America, all the best.
[00:20:42] доброго.
[00:23:38] Let's return to the news, the third final day of elections is coming
[00:23:41] to an end, in the eastern part of the country votes are already being counted, in Moscow and other regions of
[00:23:45] central Russia the polling stations will close in
[00:23:48] just over an hour. Now wait a second.