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[00:05:39] say good morning to skype.gr to see how
[00:05:42] it records the news. First topic, of course,
[00:05:46] this incident in Leipzig,
[00:05:49] hybrid attack, Berlin sees behind the
[00:05:52] booby-trapped drone in Leipzig, the German Minister
[00:05:56] of Interior did not rule out involvement of hostile forces, speaking
[00:05:59] of a very serious case and a new
[00:06:03] level of hybrid threat. Also, what
[00:06:06] does the Iran Oman agreement provide for the Strait of
[00:06:09] Hormuz? Read more at sky.gr.
[00:06:12] The information we are getting is that this agreement is imminent
[00:06:16] from hour to hour, not from day to day, they say from hour to hour, but
[00:06:20] this has been developing from day to day, they've been saying it since the day before yesterday, anyway,
[00:06:23] now Mitsotakis for interconnection with Cyprus, a strong
[00:06:27] vote in the energy sector of Greece, the entry of Meridia,
[00:06:31] electrical interconnection Greece-Cyprus with majority shareholder the
[00:06:35] French group, this development is very important, we will
[00:06:39] discuss it in a little while, we also read.
[00:06:42] of the economy, new system of agricultural subsidies, the instructions
[00:06:46] of the AADE for the submission of subsidy
[00:06:49] applications, it seems that some order is being introduced in the
[00:06:52] agricultural subsidies and the assumption of this role by
[00:06:56] the AADE. We also read other
[00:06:59] news, yes, because we may have the Persian Gulf and the international
[00:07:03] community may have its eyes focused there, but we must not forget another
[00:07:07] narrow, critical, critical
[00:07:09] importance, we are talking about the Strait of Bab. Saudi
[00:07:13] Arabia can break the dominance of the Houthis in the Red Sea, this is an
[00:07:17] analysis, an article from The Washington Post,
[00:07:20] and also from the sports news the title for yesterday's
[00:07:23] game is indicative, Panathinaikos suffered in OAKA,
[00:07:27] is now called to learn from this and qualify through
[00:07:31] Bulgaria. You can also see the highlights, we also have
[00:07:34] statements from the coach, we have the pressure, but
[00:07:37] we're going for the win, there's nothing else for us. said the
[00:07:41] coach of the Greens. Of course,
[00:07:44] we don't forget everything that has
[00:07:47] happened in recent days with these very destructive
[00:07:51] fires in Boeotia and Western Attica. Now the government is
[00:07:55] racing to support the fire victims. Financial
[00:07:58] aid, tax and insurance facilities,
[00:08:02] special measures for businesses and residents,
[00:08:06] were decided at this inter-ministerial meeting under Kyriakos
[00:08:08] Mitsotakis yesterday at Maximos Mansion, but all
[00:08:19] this has been gathered in the report of Hrisambatos, let's
[00:08:23] watch it. Under the
[00:08:23] diptych
[00:08:27] rapid damage assessment and immediate relief for the fire victims of Western
[00:08:31] Attica, the Prime Minister announced a package of support measures,
[00:08:34] assuring that the state will stand by
[00:08:37] them. At the center, beyond immediate financial
[00:08:40] aid, support for businesses and agriculture. operations with a maximum aid limit of
[00:08:44] €500,000 per beneficiary, suspension of tax and insurance
[00:08:48] obligations, suspension of auctions, suspension of employment
[00:08:51] contracts, exemption from ENFIA and special support for fire-affected
[00:08:55] areas through the creation of a special pass program for
[00:08:59] the next tourist season and Mybusiness support for
[00:09:02] further enhancement. This time we will move even faster regarding
[00:09:06] the financing of the
[00:09:09] reconstruction actions for the houses
[00:09:12] that were destroyed, always within the specific legal
[00:09:15] framework that applies.
[00:09:18] At the same time, in the next 48 hours, the completion of the damage assessment
[00:09:22] in homes is expected, while the start of anti-erosion and
[00:09:25] flood protection works is estimated for September
[00:09:28] 15. The inspections of the competent teams
[00:09:32] have already started in Porto Germeno, which was visited by the Minister of Civil
[00:09:35] Protection.
[00:09:38] Nikos Androulakis toured the affected areas of Western Attica
[00:09:42] and insisted on the need for timely compensation for the
[00:09:45] fire victims. The state must support
[00:09:48] them immediately, paying the first
[00:09:52] aid, but also the total of the
[00:09:54] compensation they are entitled to. Civil
[00:09:57] protection in our country must acquire a
[00:10:00] different doctrine. We have spent more than 500 million in total in the last
[00:10:04] 5 years on prevention actions, these are actions that have
[00:10:08] measurable results.
[00:10:11] Responsibilities for shortcomings. The other parties also attribute blame for prevention
[00:10:15] and civil protection to the government. The Prime Minister today, in a provocative
[00:10:18] and outrageous way, tried to present
[00:10:21] white as black and to present success and measurable
[00:10:25] results on the ashes, we are all judged by the results and
[00:10:28] unfortunately we are watching the same play, we are obliged to
[00:10:31] have political conscience, not only
[00:10:34] political responsibility, because the vicious
[00:10:37] circle is reproduced, now we are talking about the damages from the fires, in a
[00:10:41] few months we will be talking about the floods, the Prime Minister self-satisfied
[00:10:45] and provocatively indifferent, no highly paid
[00:10:48] co-responsible person feels the need to either foresee, or
[00:10:52] protect, or resign. We see. a delegation of the Greek
[00:10:56] Left Coalition also visited the port. Unfortunately, once
[00:10:59] again, natural disasters find the state unprepared. On Thursday, the
[00:11:03] Minister of Environment will present in detail the total area that
[00:11:06] turned to ashes and is estimated at approximately 111
[00:11:10] acres.
[00:11:13] And it's not just one Athens, the focus of confrontation between the government and
[00:11:17] the opposition, because the issue of the recycling kiosks
[00:11:20] that we saw in previous days is now resurfacing, with the
[00:11:23] confrontation escalating, Athens. Yes, the government and PASOK are exchanging
[00:11:27] accusations both about the
[00:11:30] legality of the contract for these recycling kiosks, as
[00:11:34] well as about the cost of acquiring them,
[00:11:37] citing a new opinion invoked by Adonis
[00:11:41] Georgiadis. At this point, let's see the report prepared by
[00:11:44] Despina Vlepakis, and immediately after, with us will
[00:11:47] be the MP of New Democracy, Mr. Stelios
[00:11:51] Petsas, along with our colleague Giorgos Alexakis, and let's discuss everything.
[00:11:55] A war of announcements broke out between Adonis Georgiadis and
[00:11:59] PASOK regarding the recycling kiosks of Techan and the cost
[00:12:03] of acquiring them. The Minister of Health claimed that everything was done
[00:12:06] legally and cited an independent expert
[00:12:10] who characterized, as he states, the opinion
[00:12:13] of the Financial Control Committee as erroneous.
[00:12:16] He considers this opinion to be
[00:12:19] illegal, that it is erroneous, and that the
[00:12:22] inspectors who issued it have civil liability. of the
[00:12:25] public, but also criminal liability for infidelity and breach
[00:12:28] of duty and should be disciplinarily investigated. Mr. Georgiadis' posts
[00:12:32] who after
[00:12:35] assuming the position of self-appointed avenger where
[00:12:38] he was recorded punishing as if he were the judicial d, now
[00:12:42] he is trying with continuous posts
[00:12:45] to represent the interests of companies. In his post, Mr.
[00:12:49] Georgiadis revealed that the independent expert
[00:12:53] whom the ES service assigned
[00:12:55] to provide an opinion after the report is the secretary of institutions of PASOK.
[00:12:59] Mr. Androulakis, did you ask the secretary of institutions and transparency
[00:13:03] of PASOKinAL about the green
[00:13:06] kiosks and whether it is a scandal or
[00:13:10] not? You speak among yourselves in the
[00:13:13] movement. The opinion you refer to is neither
[00:13:16] a finding for the case of Techan, nor an assessment of the
[00:13:20] legality of this specific contract. It is enough to
[00:13:23] read the text itself, instead of isolating, as
[00:13:27] you do, excerpts. Panic
[00:13:30] is a very bad advisor. They keep their secretary, their right,
[00:13:34] so they accept her findings and stop complaining
[00:13:38] against themselves. Take down your video, Mr.
[00:13:41] Androulakis, don't humiliate yourself any further.
[00:13:44] Apparently, Mr. Georgiadis either did not read the text of my
[00:13:47] opinion, or he read it and did not understand it, or
[00:13:51] he read it, understood it, and chose to misrepresent it. The
[00:13:55] latter version is the most problematic. Read
[00:13:58] how someone writes when they have been caught with their hand
[00:14:02] in the cookie jar. After an investigation by the European Public Prosecutor's Office and the termination of its
[00:14:05] cooperation with Esna, Techan ceased operational
[00:14:09] support and withdrew from the operation of the multi-center
[00:14:12] recycling.
[00:14:15] So, we saw the data as recorded by the Skype report.
[00:14:19] Let's now move on to our discussion, Mr. Stelios Petsas is here in the studio and it is our pleasure to
[00:14:22] host you. Good morning, thank you very much for the invitation, happy
[00:14:26] birthday to all those celebrating today,
[00:14:30] Transfiguration of the Savior, a great holiday, MP of New
[00:14:33] Democracy, in Eastern Attica, let's mention these things too, Mr.
[00:14:36] Petsas, because you never know when they will happen, they will happen in
[00:14:39] 2027,
[00:14:42] for me, I don't know if anything extraordinary will happen of course, but
[00:14:46] I believe that regarding the timing of the
[00:14:49] elections, the Prime Minister has said many times about the spring of
[00:14:53] 2027, I also believe it. In 2027 and I believe that we still have many things to do
[00:14:57] to rise higher in the polls, approaching
[00:15:00] what may currently be a bit silent from New Democracy for
[00:15:04] various reasons, because we know the reasons, I think we can do
[00:15:07] things to bring them closer to us, so we have time ahead of us to include
[00:15:11] our good colleague Mr. Giorgos Alexakis in our discussion. Good day
[00:15:14] to you, thank you very much. Good morning, good morning,
[00:15:18] good morning, good morning, Giorgos. So, let's start with the
[00:15:21] topic of recycling, and happy birthday, it's a big celebration
[00:15:25] today. Yes, it is, as you said, happy birthday to all Sotiris
[00:15:28] and Sotiroules, and also to the Morfies, Giorgos, let's not
[00:15:32] forget them, they are celebrating today, they are celebrating today
[00:15:35] as well.
[00:15:39] Here's to the beautiful and non-beautiful ones,
[00:15:42] exactly, exactly. Let's start, Giorgos, with the topic
[00:15:46] of recycling that has resurfaced again now.
[00:15:50] We had successive announcements yesterday, what they call in political
[00:15:53] reporting, a paper war
[00:15:56] between Adonis Georgiadis and PASOK,
[00:15:59] regarding what the Minister
[00:16:02] of Health said about the opinions given by a
[00:16:05] PASOK executive. The
[00:16:08] lady,
[00:16:10] remind me of her surname, I mean, Ms. Georgaki,
[00:16:14] bravo, well, all this sparked the controversy, and
[00:16:18] indeed, Mr. Georgiadis told Mr. Androulakis, it's better to
[00:16:22] take down any post you've made about recycling, because it's your
[00:16:25] own executive who is undermining your arguments.
[00:16:28] Think about the citizens who
[00:16:31] will be called in a short time to pay as
[00:16:35] they throw it away.
[00:16:39] Think about the citizens who in the near future will have
[00:16:43] before them a very important and reliable
[00:16:46] recycling system for recovering data and the circular
[00:16:50] economy goals that exist. Also think about the municipalities who
[00:16:53] are on the front line of this
[00:16:57] process and will have to take a series
[00:16:59] of actions, and on the other hand, look at the paper war, as you aptly
[00:17:03] described it. You understand that citizens
[00:17:07] remain a little stunned, they cannot understand
[00:17:10] what is happening and are asking for answers. The big question is to have
[00:17:14] transparency in this whole process. We know very well that there are
[00:17:17] specific business interests behind
[00:17:20] every proposal that
[00:17:23] aims to shape these recycling
[00:17:26] systems. We know that there is a lot of money involved,
[00:17:30] and there are also the country's obligations, and there is also the money that
[00:17:33] municipalities, all organizations, are called to invest in this
[00:17:36] process, and convincing answers must be given beyond these
[00:17:39] paper wars. From then on, I believe that the central issue is to
[00:17:43] form a very reliable system so that the country does not reach a
[00:17:47] point where it pays fines for not meeting the recycling
[00:17:50] targets, which are quite ambitious and in which we are very
[00:17:54] far behind at the moment. From then on, I believe that
[00:17:57] justice, as it seems, will decide, the administrative
[00:18:01] authorities will have to
[00:18:04] move to finally see if
[00:18:08] everything has been done legally or if we have a controversial case. And
[00:18:11] even more so since the European Public Prosecutor's Office has entered
[00:18:14] the equation, Mr. Petsas, and this is also an issue on which PASOK insists.
[00:18:18] I saw a relevant announcement yesterday addressed
[00:18:22] to Adonis Georgiadis from Harilaou Trikoupi, what does the
[00:18:25] minister and New Democracy have to say about the investigation conducted by the European
[00:18:29] Public Prosecutor's Office on the matter? First of all, let's say that recycling is a big
[00:18:33] issue for all of Europe and of course for Greece, where unfortunately
[00:18:36] we still have low recycling rates, so we all
[00:18:40] understand that we need to invest more in this area. One form of
[00:18:43] investment is what we are seeing now, in which, of course, the European
[00:18:46] Public Prosecutor's Office, if there are European funds involved,
[00:18:50] does well to investigate. However, it's one thing that a new
[00:18:53] institution like the European Public Prosecutor's Office is investigating
[00:18:57] this case, and another thing that there are
[00:19:00] political officials who had criminal
[00:19:04] responsibilities, because yesterday I saw - and I have to take my
[00:19:09] hat off to Adonis - yesterday I saw a
[00:19:11] statement by Mr. Georgiadis,
[00:19:15] followed by two, three, four announcements from PASOK, on the same
[00:19:19] issue, it seems one didn't cover the other and they needed to issue a bunch
[00:19:22] of announcements, because, to conclude eventually, as I understand it, so as not to confuse the people listening
[00:19:26] to us, not on issues of legality that had been checked by the audit court, not on issues of the
[00:19:29] opinion of the PASOK executive, who served in a
[00:19:33] pivotal position in the secretariat that justified more or
[00:19:36] less the undertaking of these investments by the
[00:19:39] region through the NSRF and placed some
[00:19:43] blame on a lack of preparedness in the first stage of control by the financial control
[00:19:46] committee, not on all these, but on the expediency, excuse me, will we
[00:19:50] talk about expediency, that is, we went to political responsibility now, whether an
[00:19:53] investment in recycling should have been made or not?
[00:19:57] That is, I want to say that PASOK is trying to create a scandal
[00:20:01] on an issue, I don't think it benefits it, it certainly doesn't benefit it in the polls,
[00:20:05] because I see it falling instead of rising.
[00:20:07] Therefore, instead of dealing with real issues that concern
[00:20:11] citizens, such as accuracy, such as security, such as immigration,
[00:20:15] if you want, with the latest events also in Spain, all these issues are
[00:20:19] dealt with by four or five announcements from PASOK, to eventually conclude whether
[00:20:22] it was reasonable to proceed with such an investment for
[00:20:26] recycling. I don't think we serve our
[00:20:30] country that way, and I will be waiting with interest for the European
[00:20:33] Public Prosecutor's Office's report. I have seen many reports from the financial
[00:20:36] control committee. You know that I come from the
[00:20:39] General Accounting Office of the State where this service started, so
[00:20:43] when there is a provisional audit sheet, there is also a second final one, there are many
[00:20:47] findings, they enter the process of real, let's
[00:20:51] say, analysis by all those involved to eventually improve the proper management of community funds, but
[00:20:55] not to the extent of discovering criminal responsibilities everywhere for ministers, especially when the
[00:20:59] tenders have been made either by the region or municipalities. The
[00:21:02] framework can also be set by the ministers, perhaps.
[00:21:05] The
[00:21:08] key is to see if these processes, these specific
[00:21:11] structures, should have been funded from the
[00:21:15] resources, and from then on, a second point that does not concern the tender
[00:21:18] itself is to see if the strategy for
[00:21:21] the circular economy is leading us, as Mr.
[00:21:25] Petsas said, to the
[00:21:28] implementation of the country's goals, because otherwise we will be called to pay
[00:21:32] more, and from then on, to see if the
[00:21:35] return from these specific
[00:21:39] structures is what it should be for the citizens, let's not forget that a
[00:21:43] corresponding large DRS
[00:21:45] system of the deposit-refund process is also
[00:21:49] approaching, meaning we will get something that is recycled, and we will return it and get a
[00:21:52] refund. All this needs to be understood by the citizens, to be seen,
[00:21:56] that's why I insisted at the beginning, to finally see if the
[00:22:00] country is moving forward, meeting
[00:22:02] recycling targets, which it is very behind on, and let's not forget that all these
[00:22:06] issues will be emphatically raised in the near future so that we are not called
[00:22:10] to pay fines later, and so on, exactly, exactly, exactly,
[00:22:13] because it is also the infrastructure anyway for which
[00:22:17] a lot of money has been invested and to see that all this
[00:22:21] is falling into disuse from a certain point onwards and indeed some municipalities are even removing
[00:22:24] the specific facilities, it goes without saying that it is
[00:22:28] something that does not please anyone. Now let's move on to the fires, let's
[00:22:31] move a little to the big topic of the day. We heard yesterday from
[00:22:34] the Prime Minister assurances that this
[00:22:37] time the relief for the victims will be
[00:22:41] immediate. However, the criticism from the opposition remains and
[00:22:44] focuses mainly on prevention, because okay,
[00:22:48] climate change and the climate crisis, we all know it, it's something that
[00:22:51] is expected, so what do you say to that?
[00:22:55] Look, I think the Prime Minister said that we will proceed even faster, no,
[00:22:59] it's not that there isn't a framework, on the contrary, the framework of state aid that was formed after
[00:23:02] 2020 has helped both in quick registration and in
[00:23:06] even quicker payment of compensation at least in most
[00:23:09] cases. We have the past,
[00:23:12] because I know this part quite well, it was tragic regarding the
[00:23:16] delays, even for the inspections it was tragic, I think.
[00:23:20] It's making progress there and new tools have been introduced, meaning that housing assistance
[00:23:23] reaches up to 100% of the value,
[00:23:27] that there are possibilities for rent subsidy to temporarily house
[00:23:31] someone if their main residence has been destroyed, we have made
[00:23:35] progress for businesses and for agriculture, for the inspections you
[00:23:38] mentioned, Mr. Petsas, what we see as a fundamental change that
[00:23:41] at least I see happening for the first time, is that only one
[00:23:45] inspection will be enough in order for assistance to be provided
[00:23:49] to a person.
[00:23:55] experience of the years, after the first two years of implementing the new
[00:23:59] state aid model, at least during our governance, experience had
[00:24:03] shown that there was a limited time where the same teams had to
[00:24:07] go once, twice, three times because there are needs throughout
[00:24:10] Greece and the competent
[00:24:13] staff were not enough, therefore we proceeded to a faster, simpler
[00:24:17] process, I think this is to everyone's benefit and
[00:24:22] they accuse you, however, that we are reaching the point
[00:24:25] where you will give some money, where you will take some actions,
[00:24:29] such as for example Porto Germeno for
[00:24:31] the enhancement of tourism, but at the level of prevention, as Athina
[00:24:35] said a little while ago, that critical projects that
[00:24:39] you had even planned in the recovery fund, you
[00:24:42] removed them, then we see fire zones being created at the last
[00:24:46] minute. Fire zones are a part of prevention.
[00:24:50] Look, one thing is our responsibility towards the citizens and how
[00:24:53] we position ourselves as a government and constantly strive for something
[00:24:56] better, and the other is the criticism of the opposition. I distinguish the two
[00:25:00] because I want to be consistent. against what I'm saying, because tomorrow,
[00:25:04] the day after tomorrow, and for years to come, we will be here. No previous
[00:25:07] government has implemented tools like this government does, the
[00:25:10] "Antinero" program, for example, which is a cleaning program, all the
[00:25:14] issues that have to do with increasing funds for municipalities , all
[00:25:17] the entire framework for the designation of plots. These are things that
[00:25:20] this government did, so in relation to the criticism of the
[00:25:24] opposition, I have to say, if these tools had been implemented
[00:25:28] in the past, we would have had much better results in our forests that were
[00:25:31] abandoned for decades. However, significant cleaning steps have been taken, and
[00:25:35] in fact, I read that Mitsotakis yesterday mentioned
[00:25:37] that
[00:25:41] in the last five years, you, as a government, have given 500 million euros
[00:25:44] precisely for prevention, but given the
[00:25:47] conditions, as they are developing.
[00:26:02] an unpredictable event. That's why I wanted to distinguish what we did compared to those who want to criticize from the
[00:26:06] opposition, but addressing the citizens, I want to say, my
[00:26:10] full position at least, as I have expressed it, that no matter how much support
[00:26:13] there is from the government, in retrospect
[00:26:16] it is often not enough. And I have proposed, as you know, in the
[00:26:20] past, and in Parliament, and in the last bill that was passed for civil
[00:26:24] protection and the acceleration of the, of dealing with
[00:26:26] natural disasters, to have universal mandatory.
[00:26:30] insurance for all and
[00:26:32] for homes and for businesses and for agricultural holdings. It is the only
[00:26:36] way for someone to be able to start their life quickly
[00:26:39] without waiting for a state budget that will constantly have to
[00:26:43] face new challenges which we must
[00:26:47] admit that the environmental climate changes will be greater, therefore
[00:26:50] we must take a step in that direction and because truly
[00:26:54] some may say that okay well why should we do this it has
[00:26:57] enormous benefits and also if there are
[00:27:01] some vulnerable people who are not able to pay the premium for an
[00:27:04] insurance policy we should support them to substantiate
[00:27:07] a little what I am saying, an insurance for a house of 100 square meters is approximately
[00:27:11] 120€ per year, if there was universal insurance it would
[00:27:15] be under 30 to 35% of the premium and
[00:27:18] we are talking about three out of four Greek families living in homes up to 100
[00:27:22] square meters, Mr. Petsas, you know what happens, the cost is not terrible when
[00:27:26] one thinks that they can be without their home for a very long time until
[00:27:29] they receive state aid. I referred to this issue yesterday on the show on the
[00:27:45] radio and messages were coming in from listeners who were saying that
[00:27:49] yes, we want to insure it, but the insurance companies are not
[00:27:53] insuring it because it is high risk, for example, if it is a
[00:27:56] property near a dangerous area,
[00:28:00] so. Do you see a mandatory nature in
[00:28:03] insurance evolving into
[00:28:07] a mandatory nature for insurance companies to respond?
[00:28:09] Can it be done in this way? Yes,
[00:28:13] what you raised was very important yesterday. There is a threefold issue. Firstly, the
[00:28:17] age. Very old houses are not insured. Secondly, there is the issue of
[00:28:20] urban planning regulations. The house must be
[00:28:24] absolutely compliant. In many
[00:28:27] cases, some of these houses, even if the procedure has progressed, the...
[00:28:31] also have outstanding issues, and the third
[00:28:33] is this risk. There must be an agreement with the
[00:28:37] government. I think the association of insurance companies, i.e., the body that
[00:28:41] represents the insurance companies in Greece, has a
[00:28:44] strong position in the direction of developing insurance
[00:28:48] awareness in Greece. It is necessary, no matter what, people who
[00:28:52] have property, all of us who have property, let's
[00:28:55] consider it. The cost is not that high. It certainly helps and
[00:28:58] honestly, we can't expect everything from the state,
[00:29:01] especially when the state is also dealing with serious issues and of course
[00:29:05] climate change creates very big risks. Let's
[00:29:08] not forget that our country also has the issue of earthquakes,
[00:29:12] seismicity. We have learned to live with earthquakes, we have not learned to live with
[00:29:16] fires and we don't want to. We have learned to live with
[00:29:18] earthquakes. Unfortunately, there too, despite the fact that we are in
[00:29:22] an earthquake-prone area, we all neglect it and we should
[00:29:26] take it seriously. the issue of the discount. These issues must be discussed as a whole
[00:29:29] and of course we must see what happens with the peri-urban
[00:29:42] forests, that is, areas that are inhabited
[00:29:45] and border forest cores,
[00:29:49] as we had this case in western Attica, to see what
[00:29:52] can be done as prevention in the
[00:29:55] incentive process. of insurance. Beyond that, we must
[00:29:59] again look at the issues of prevention. As
[00:30:02] it seems, here we have a case like
[00:30:06] that of Evia, a very dense forest, a very rich
[00:30:09] forest, which all these years
[00:30:13] had been protected, either by chance or for reasons of
[00:30:16] prevention, but it had been left, it had
[00:30:19] been left because people no longer exist in the periphery,
[00:30:22] resin producers, the people who lived daily and
[00:30:26] worked. there is money, the
[00:30:29] "Antinero" program, there is the undergrounding program for the cables of
[00:30:41] DEDIE and ADMIE and the issues that
[00:30:45] keep coming up, the point is that at some point, solutions must be provided.
[00:30:48] solutions.
[00:30:51] είναι από ένα σημείο και μετά να δίνονται λύσεις.