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[00:00:01] in the position of the accused, I was then here, here. I left for five days and there, I was not there,
[00:00:05] uh, I am not him, I am him, but I did not
[00:00:08] participate, I mean, nothing like that has been announced, it is
[00:00:12] a very serious story for anyone to deal with
[00:00:15] superficially and superficially, indeed, indeed, now
[00:00:19] at the level of trauma and because we have Mrs. Konstantinidou with us who
[00:00:23] specializes in these issues, Mrs. Konstantinidou, as
[00:00:26] a psychologist, Mr. Daltas also said, this is the deep trauma in the
[00:00:30] Greek society and that 16 years later it is
[00:00:33] open and we hope at this
[00:00:36] stage at least that some light will be shed to see what happened because 16 years
[00:00:40] later it is an
[00:00:44] open wound for Greek society,
[00:00:47] it is indeed a collective trauma, we have been saying it for years, we have been
[00:00:50] feeling it for years, this is something in itself,
[00:00:54] in essence, in the trauma we say the following:
[00:00:57] the sooner justice is done,
[00:01:01] the more time
[00:01:04] a person saves from dealing with trauma, because there is essentially
[00:01:08] no real treatment, it is a deep trauma,
[00:01:11] it is a strong trauma, violent trauma, people
[00:01:15] died, our fellow citizens, it could be literally anyone,
[00:01:19] we all identified with this, unfortunately,
[00:01:22] and we come to this position, we all expect justice,
[00:01:26] I imagine, especially the family and there
[00:01:29] the... uh, the deceased, in any
[00:01:32] case, in order to say that there is some order both
[00:01:36] within us and at the level of mental balance, justice needs
[00:01:39] to contribute to this, the sooner justice is served
[00:01:43] in something,
[00:01:47] the better for our own management and, in
[00:01:50] quotation marks, healing, it cannot be done otherwise, what remains
[00:01:53] open hurts and hurts
[00:02:09] Dalta, uh, if he hears us however,
[00:02:12] our question at this moment is where we are in the
[00:02:16] case of Mistra and how crucial the forensic report will be
[00:02:20] for the cause of death of the elderly man in a case
[00:02:23] which has caused a stir and many questions arise, the
[00:02:26] fact that he had. the other one in the
[00:02:30] freezer for at least 2.5
[00:02:33] years to collect the double
[00:02:35] pension of both the father and
[00:02:39] the deceased mother, that is a big
[00:02:42] big issue and many questions, Mr. Edalta, in this case of
[00:02:46] Mistra. Yes, look, I listened to the
[00:02:49] sister, I listened to the lawyer, we all listened to them, what did the
[00:02:53] sister say? That there was no financial issue because if the
[00:02:56] hotel unit was operating, it would have had much greater revenues
[00:03:00] than collecting the pension. Uh
[00:03:04] this in itself causes disgust so the person in the
[00:03:08] freezer, uh, the explanation given by
[00:03:11] the lawyer speaking on behalf of the accused
[00:03:14] is that it is due to pathological
[00:03:16] love he had for his parents,
[00:03:20] it is obvious that here the explanation
[00:03:23] from the psychological sphere participates,
[00:03:26] because the first explanation is that he did it to collect the pension. Many
[00:03:30] people have collected pensions and have
[00:03:33] been exposed of parents who have
[00:03:36] passed away, no one needs to put a person in the freezer for
[00:03:39] this, they simply avoid reporting the
[00:03:43] death to the competent authorities and continue to
[00:03:46] collect the pension. Uh, now,
[00:03:50] this is certainly involved in this matter,
[00:03:53] there is involvement of
[00:03:56] psychopathology, it is not a normal thing.
[00:04:00] Keeping a person in the freezer, of course, has happened
[00:04:03] in some cases where there was no issue of collecting
[00:04:07] a pension, mainly for young people from their mother or
[00:04:10] parents, this has been recorded. He will face a
[00:04:14] charge of embezzlement of money,
[00:04:17] a misdemeanor because the time period is short and the amount does
[00:04:21] not exceed the monetary limit for it to be
[00:04:24] a felony, but we will also have to see what this person will say in
[00:04:27] court, what explanation he gives.
[00:04:32] dead also, so, uh, obviously, look, it causes
[00:04:35] horror, a horrible image,
[00:04:38] but I don't, in my opinion, we said
[00:04:41] now, from the outside, giving interpretations
[00:04:44] is always risky, but
[00:04:48] I think it is more involved in the psychological sphere of the accused
[00:04:51] rather than
[00:05:27] and there are some indicative images that you have
[00:05:30] also published, regarding
[00:05:33] citizens who rent boats, they are on an island,
[00:05:37] they want to have a good time, they rent a boat to go for a ride, the
[00:05:40] point is that the other person must know how to operate a boat and how to
[00:05:44] navigate, and here we have cases, we saw the shot
[00:05:47] in a while, we will see it again, we see here indicatively,
[00:05:51] uh, that the other person just takes the boat, whoever
[00:05:54] dies, as the saying goes, in the axle a few days ago here,
[00:05:58] here we see Mr. Andritsos in all places, in all islands, boats
[00:06:02] being rented without a speed boat
[00:06:05] operator's license, I have been shouting
[00:06:08] for years that it is not possible to rent any
[00:06:12] kind of floating craft at sea without a speed boat license
[00:06:15] or without someone who will do the steering,
[00:06:19] an operator who knows, has a license, so people who have them can
[00:06:23] have two choices, unfortunately I say it again and again, nothing
[00:06:26] has changed, that's why you see continuous
[00:06:29] accidents and problems in this area and it is not
[00:06:33] an isolated incident, in every island
[00:06:36] we see the same things because they are small
[00:06:40] children, they are people who have no knowledge and we simply
[00:06:43] give them a floating craft for 50-100€ to
[00:06:46] go around the island, so I will
[00:06:50] give a child tomorrow my car and tell him to go for a
[00:06:54] ride so that people understand, just go for a ride in
[00:06:57] Athens, take your scooter, take your car, you don't need a license,
[00:07:01] go and take your ride and here we are talking about being in the sea, so
[00:07:04] you understand that for checks to be carried out,
[00:07:08] for checks to be carried out, initially there must be 100%
[00:07:12] staffing in all port services, at this
[00:07:16] moment, I, who travel all over Greece, do not see
[00:07:19] 100% staffing, so we have low
[00:07:23] staffing levels in all port services, on the
[00:07:26] other hand, we see that there are floating craft, there are cars, but there is no
[00:07:30] human resource to be able to do shifts at sea, to go out and
[00:07:33] carry out many checks, so here we see that if there is
[00:07:37] personnel, then to staff the port
[00:07:41] services together with some changes in
[00:07:43] legislation, safety at sea will come as it is on land, which is constantly
[00:07:47] updated, the road traffic code,
[00:07:51] the frameworks are tightened, you saw with the scooters, you see with the cameras,
[00:07:54] steps are being taken, we should consider that in the sea, the safety
[00:07:57] rules and all the data have not been updated since
[00:08:01] 1950 and since 1970, and in
[00:08:04] terms of infrastructure, but also in terms of safety rules
[00:08:08] at sea, it needs updating, as you say. if
[00:08:12] it is legislation from 1960, that is,
[00:08:15] well, it is understood that things have changed,
[00:08:18] the data has changed, the issue, you know what happens, that
[00:08:22] the legislation is what it is, the checks and
[00:08:25] the staffing are what they are, the issue, however, is
[00:08:29] also regarding those who rent, I mean that it is not
[00:08:32] enough for someone to simply have the money to come and rent a boat and
[00:08:36] I think also for the companies themselves at the end of
[00:08:39] the day the damage they will suffer will be multiplied. when they
[00:08:43] give the boat indiscriminately to someone, just because he pays the
[00:08:46] price, that is, apart from the safety itself for the other
[00:08:50] bathers and so on, it also has to do with the
[00:08:54] company itself, that from a certain point onwards there must also be
[00:08:57] some seriousness on this issue, the fact is,
[00:09:01] Mr. Andritsos, when someone gives you the right to
[00:09:04] do this, that is, to make money without having to
[00:09:08] ask for a license, you do it, now they have insurance, no matter what...
[00:09:12] happens, they say, even if you crash it into a rock, no matter what happens, there is insurance,
[00:09:16] it will cover it, I get my money, no one obliges me to
[00:09:20] give it with a license, so they say uncontrollably, I give it to everyone
[00:09:23] and go out, beaches, bathers, islands, that is,
[00:09:27] there is all this thing that is also a problem for us, because people
[00:09:31] don't know the rules, they pass in front of the boats, because they think they
[00:09:35] are playing by passing in front of the boats, that is, they go
[00:09:39] near the beaches, near the bathers, that is, they don't know. and
[00:09:42] they think it's a means of play and entertainment, unfortunately, as
[00:09:46] you have seen every time we say it, it's not
[00:09:49] entertainment and a game, it's a very serious
[00:09:52] issue that needs to be resolved at some point,
[00:09:55] indeed, we keep all these things, Mr. Valis, be well, thank
[00:09:58] you very much, thank you very much, have a beautiful
[00:10:02] day, be well, let's have safe seas, that's what we want, just as
[00:10:05] we want to have safe roads, we want to have safe seas above
[00:10:09] all and for that everyone must do
[00:10:13] what is necessary, isn't it? What needs to be done, we cannot each do as we please, we do not
[00:10:50] but today morning here, indeed, indeed, uh,
[00:10:53] I imagine apart from the.
[00:10:56] for today's Saviour's Day, there is also great satisfaction, I see it on
[00:11:00] your face, Mr. Deputy Minister, for what was signed yesterday at the
[00:11:04] Maximos Mansion, because finally the whole
[00:11:07] process around the cable seems to be unstuck,
[00:11:11] without a doubt, the involvement of MerinDM yesterday in this project is a
[00:11:14] very important and undoubtedly positive development, essentially a
[00:11:18] big giant, a technological giant like MerinDM is entering this
[00:11:22] important project and gives a big. What
[00:11:25] does this mean practically? That you know once again that the electrical interconnection
[00:11:29] of Greece, Cyprus and Israel is a European project, Greece's
[00:11:33] goal is to create a European energy
[00:11:36] highway in the Mediterranean that will essentially connect Europe
[00:11:40] electrically via Greece with the Middle East and at the same time will
[00:11:43] lift Cyprus out of its energy isolation.
[00:11:47] Secondly, it is a project that upgrades our country's energy
[00:11:51] position. Practically, then, the arrival of MerinDM here, what does it mean?
[00:11:55] That it gives a vote of confidence to ADMIE, who has done
[00:11:58] important work and this is recognized by technological
[00:12:01] giants, but it also gives a vote of confidence to the energy policy that this government has been pursuing
[00:12:04] for many years. What do all these together mean? That the project
[00:12:08] is safe. The arrival of MerinDM therefore
[00:12:12] essentially accelerates the process, undoubtedly facilitates
[00:12:16] the leveraging of capital, which is important for us to be able to
[00:12:19] proceed, and constitutes an important economic and technical
[00:12:22] development which will send the project many steps
[00:12:26] forward, so we are absolutely happy and satisfied with this
[00:12:29] development, which the Greek government fully credits, and let's
[00:12:33] also bring Mr. Filis into the discussion to explain to us the importance of the
[00:12:37] signing because many pieces are unlocked
[00:12:40] in a particularly complex puzzle, if we could call it that,
[00:12:44] in the region with a strong economic and geopolitical footprint, and as we heard
[00:12:48] from Mr. Hadzivasiliou, we have a vote of confidence from France, in
[00:12:52] this case it is indeed
[00:12:55] a very positive development which comes in
[00:12:58] continuation, or rather tries to correct some mistakes that
[00:13:02] were made in the past. I will tell you exactly what I mean.
[00:13:06] About two years ago, around this time, we tried
[00:13:10] to conduct some seabed surveys, which is a
[00:13:12] prerequisite, a stage before the implementation and
[00:13:16] laying of the cable, south of Kasos.
[00:13:20] Uh, the action was prevented then
[00:13:23] by Turkey and for two years the
[00:13:26] GSI case was in a suspended
[00:13:30] state, a limbo state, where
[00:13:34] on the one hand we had a not inability, but
[00:13:37] willingness from the companies
[00:13:41] involved to take the next steps, let's
[00:13:44] note here for our viewers that until today 60%
[00:13:47] of the seabed surveys have been completed, that is, all
[00:13:51] those that were within Greek territorial waters and...
[00:13:55] Cypriot territorial waters and 40% remains, which
[00:13:58] is from the six nautical miles south of Kasos
[00:14:02] up to the west of Cyprus, the 12. which are the territorial
[00:14:06] waters of Cyprus, because Cyprus has 12. territorial waters, no
[00:14:09] seabed research has been done. This was a
[00:14:12] condition that gave Turkey somehow a say in the
[00:14:15] project. And there was also a very strong disagreement from
[00:14:19] Cyprus that had nothing to do with the project itself, but with
[00:14:23] business and financial interests within the Cypriot Republic, which
[00:14:27] did not wish for its implementation. You do well to remind us of this, because
[00:14:30] we also remember the exchange of announcements that had taken place
[00:14:34] between Athens and Nicosia regarding this specific
[00:14:37] project. It was an awkward way for our Cypriot
[00:14:41] brethren to deal with their own internal issues that had no
[00:14:45] relation to Greece, but showed that they did not give a vote of confidence to the
[00:14:49] project. So what happened or what is happening since yesterday and we must credit
[00:14:52] the government and ADMIE and the president and managing
[00:14:56] director of ADMIE, Mr. Manousakis, who took specific actions in this
[00:15:00] direction. What happened is that we have the involvement
[00:15:03] of a company that has know-how
[00:15:07] in the field of energy infrastructure and in financing
[00:15:10] energy infrastructure, a company that does not come from just any country, but
[00:15:14] comes from France, that is, it is
[00:15:17] a state that, besides being a Mediterranean country, has an energy
[00:15:20] presence in the Eastern Mediterranean,
[00:15:23] along with France. This specific area certainly has an energy
[00:15:27] presence, it has, excuse me, a naval presence, apart from an energy one, in the
[00:15:30] Eastern Mediterranean, I remind you that when Greece very aptly after the
[00:15:34] attack on the Cypriot Republic in the first days of the war.
[00:15:37] found itself in Cyprus, France
[00:15:41] followed, I note for our viewers that there is also a defense
[00:15:44] agreement that we recently renewed with France, article
[00:15:47] two of which states that France
[00:15:50] will assist Greece in case our sovereignty is called into
[00:15:54] question, I mean that here there is a strategic relationship with the French and
[00:15:58] certainly and certainly the fact that this company has
[00:16:01] received the approval and support of the French government means
[00:16:05] that or we expect that. within the
[00:16:08] autumn we will have again the seabed
[00:16:11] surveys that remain, that is, this 40% until the
[00:16:15] plan reaches a phase of maturity and begins to
[00:16:18] be implemented. Its implementation was stated very aptly earlier by Mr. Hadjivasiliou,
[00:16:22] I additionally mention and complement that beyond
[00:16:25] taking Cyprus out of the energy periphery, which is why it was
[00:16:29] perplexing why some in Cyprus were fighting this
[00:16:33] plan, it naturally upgrades the position of both Greece and
[00:16:37] Cyprus, because we are talking about an electrical interconnection that
[00:16:40] essentially connects the Eastern Mediterranean with Europe. Exactly what you are saying, Mr.
[00:16:44] Hadjivasiliou, indeed our country with
[00:16:47] this, with the completion of this particular project, we are talking about an energy
[00:16:50] gateway for the European Union and at the same time,
[00:16:53] having previously shielded,
[00:16:57] through the agreements that have preceded with France,
[00:17:01] so we see a new environment being formed in this
[00:17:04] regard. However, I was looking at yesterday's
[00:17:07] announcement from PASOK, the Movement for Change, regarding the
[00:17:10] cable, reminding us of the timeline, stating that
[00:17:14] this process started in 2009, it moved a step further in
[00:17:17] 2013, then with
[00:17:20] Yiannis Maniatis, and this project should have been completed
[00:17:24] in 2021, however, what the opposition tells you
[00:17:28] is that the timetable must be kept, good
[00:17:30] signings, but let's see the continuation. First of all, this
[00:17:34] cable is part of a wider plan. that
[00:17:38] the government is promoting so that the country can become a real energy hub, let's not
[00:17:41] forget that we have natural gas infrastructures in Alexandroupolis with the vertical
[00:17:45] corridor that we have essentially changed the
[00:17:49] course of the corridor, at one point we were talking about sending energy resources from the North
[00:17:52] to the South, now we are talking about sending energy from the South to the North, so our
[00:17:56] country plays a very important role there too, we have the
[00:17:59] Greece-Egypt cable, let's not forget it, the EuroAfrica Interconnector, which will essentially connect
[00:18:02] Europe and Africa through our country, and now we also have the
[00:18:06] Greece and... as I said earlier, it will connect Europe with the Middle
[00:18:10] East. All these upgrade the country's position and
[00:18:13] essentially make it an energy hub, not in words, but in
[00:18:17] deeds with specific actions. Regarding this cable that we
[00:18:20] are discussing, what we are essentially doing is
[00:18:23] bringing in a giant who offers expertise,
[00:18:27] experience and especially reliability. MerinDM
[00:18:30] is a company that manages a portfolio worth 100
[00:18:34] billion. with 130 projects in
[00:18:37] every corner of the planet, I say this to illustrate my list
[00:18:41] of projects it has undertaken, it has connected Britain with Germany for example
[00:18:44] in the high speed line in France or the
[00:18:48] Trump in Florence, generally various types and scales
[00:18:52] of projects, but a short answer to this
[00:18:54] yes, the opposition tells you that you are late and you are very
[00:18:58] late for a project, a project that they started in
[00:19:01] 2009. For a very long time, the opposition
[00:19:05] accused us and it is proven at this moment that it did.
[00:19:09] Because all this time that some from the opposition were saying that the government either
[00:19:12] is not dealing with it or has changed tactics or has decided to abandon the
[00:19:16] project, they are simply refuted. During this time,
[00:19:19] you understand that serious discussions and efforts were made in order to bring in
[00:19:23] a serious investor such as MRIDM to leverage
[00:19:27] capital and to gain credibility, therefore all
[00:19:30] those who unfairly accused
[00:19:33] the government, what do they have to say today about the fact that a
[00:19:36] French international company is entering the game of
[00:19:40] the Greece-Cyprus-Israel cable, essentially bringing capital
[00:19:44] and above all giving a vote of confidence to our
[00:19:47] country, but also to the project. Let them therefore leave
[00:19:51] aside their petty thinking and small-mindedness, let them see reality as
[00:19:54] it truly is and let them admit that the government today has
[00:19:57] achieved a significant positive development. Let's
[00:20:01] also go to the Middle East to see if
[00:20:04] we see any light at the end of the tunnel because
[00:20:07] I don't know if you have noticed, we discussed it a bit
[00:20:11] among ourselves with Nikos this morning, we have lost count as to
[00:20:14] how many times the American president has told us that we are close
[00:20:18] to an agreement on the Straits of Hormuz, hour by hour, day by day
[00:20:22] it goes, Mr. Filis, that is, yes, should we expect
[00:20:25] something, the truth is that we too find it difficult to
[00:20:28] follow and keep up with the
[00:20:32] American president, because the transformations are Ovidian, not
[00:20:36] within... a framework of weeks but
[00:20:39] days, not to say hours. My
[00:20:42] conviction for a long time is
[00:20:46] that even if we see an escalation that I saw
[00:20:50] anyway in the past few days, at the end of the
[00:20:53] day, both sides, both Iran and the United
[00:20:56] States, desire de-escalation, each for its
[00:20:59] own reasons. Iran is in an objectively
[00:21:03] very difficult economic situation, the
[00:21:06] regime, as long as it cannot pay
[00:21:09] wages, as long as it cannot supply the
[00:21:12] economy, loses supporters, loses
[00:21:16] followers, even those who know that in case
[00:21:20] of the regime's fall, they will be the first to
[00:21:22] be targeted. It is also very
[00:21:26] likely that in the immediate future there will be issues even in the
[00:21:29] medical and pharmaceutical care of Iranians. So the
[00:21:33] news is not good for the Iranian regime, despite the
[00:21:36] fact that today, as we speak, it seems to be the one dictating its terms for
[00:21:40] a basic reason, because it managed by closing the Strait of Hormuz
[00:21:44] to transform it into its ultimate nuclear weapon, even if it has not acquired nuclear weapons.
[00:21:48] Exactly, and by bringing the United
[00:21:51] States to an absolute deadlock, Mr. Andritsos, it is a consequence
[00:21:54] of the strategic ambiguity
[00:21:57] of the Americans from the beginning of the war, it is a result
[00:22:00] of the Americans' decision to get involved in a war that for them was a war
[00:22:04] of choice, while for Israel it was a war of necessity, and it is also
[00:22:07] a consequence of the, I
[00:22:10] would say, various, not
[00:22:13] mutations, so to speak, of President Trump, precisely
[00:22:16] because he had no entry and
[00:22:20] exit strategy. To conclude, I would say that the Americans, for their part, would
[00:22:23] like to find a solution, but this solution, it
[00:22:27] seems, regarding the Strait of Hormuz, will be
[00:22:30] an agreement between Iran and Oman, which
[00:22:33] will hardly satisfy the Americans. Of course, the American president, we must
[00:22:37] say, because he is primarily a businessman and secondarily a politician, will
[00:22:40] try in every way to present it as a great victory,
[00:22:44] moreover, even these are, but he is also
[00:22:47] a businessman, he is a businessman. I don't know if he will
[00:22:50] be able to succeed in bringing the United States into this game, that is, if
[00:22:54] he cannot resist the scenario of
[00:22:57] the end, perhaps because he is also unpredictable, no one can know what to
[00:23:01] expect from him, he is also a businessman, maybe he will drag the United States into this game. The
[00:23:05] United States would like to be in this game, only
[00:23:08] we must keep in mind that if
[00:23:12] the cost of using, or rather, the narrow
[00:23:15] strait of Hormuz, increases so much, the next step will
[00:23:19] be for... everyone to seek to bypass it, which is why
[00:23:22] we saw the Houthis attack a Saudi
[00:23:26] Arabian-owned ship yesterday, because if one looks at the
[00:23:29] map, they will realize that the way to bypass the Strait of
[00:23:32] Hormuz is through the Red Sea, especially for Saudi Arabia, which
[00:23:36] is exactly something that the Iranians do not want. At the end of the
[00:23:39] day, if you allow me, yes, in the long
[00:23:43] run, probably the Strait of Hormuz will lose its
[00:23:46] importance and usefulness it had until today because.
[00:23:50] the costs will be so high and the environment so
[00:23:53] precarious that everyone will seek some other way, some
[00:23:57] bypass so as not to depend on it, provided, of course, someone
[00:24:00] will note, provided the Suez remains open, but that is another
[00:24:03] matter, another discussion. I want to
[00:24:06] add to what Mr. Filis said, that for us, the priority is for the Strait of
[00:24:10] Hormuz to remain open.
[00:24:13] Absolutely no tolls, as we say for Greece, which is a naval
[00:24:16] power, this is a priority and a stable position of Greece. Order
[00:24:28] and free movement in the region, which for us is a matter of vital importance. Moreover, now before
[00:24:32] we conclude, and because I see you intensely preparing, Ms.
[00:24:36] Hatzivassiliou, the Greek presidency, the second
[00:24:38] half of the year on July 1, 2027,
[00:24:42] it seems far away, but the countdown has
[00:24:45] begun, and the Greek presidency
[00:24:49] also needs serious preparation. European presidencies, especially
[00:24:52] the Greek ones, where we have a tradition of successful presidencies, if you'll
[00:24:56] allow me to say so, require serious preparation, so
[00:25:00] it's not an easy mission at all. You will have the
[00:25:03] aftermath of all this effort for an agreement in a
[00:25:06] fiscal environment with large countries, large economies having
[00:25:09] elections next year, and foreign
[00:25:12] policy. The preparation started a
[00:25:16] very long time ago from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and from the minister and the
[00:25:19] deputy minister. Now we come to build essentially and continue the good
[00:25:22] work that has been done. Our priorities are very specific. First of all, we are talking about
[00:25:26] defense and security with a 360° approach. As
[00:25:30] the Prime Minister and the government have said, our goal is to
[00:25:33] protect our external borders in the north, south, east,
[00:25:36] west, from every danger, whether traditional,
[00:25:40] hybrid, or modern. Secondly,
[00:25:42] competitiveness. This is our big issue today. As the Greek
[00:25:46] presidency, we want to send messages that Europe must
[00:25:50] close the technological gap that separates it from
[00:25:53] other powerful economies on the planet, and this
[00:25:56] includes the multiannual financial framework that you rightly mentioned, that
[00:26:00] apparently in Greece, maritime.
[00:26:02] the discussion should be completed and the new multiannual
[00:26:06] financial framework for the next seven years should be ratified, and there the government has a
[00:26:09] specific position that we must simultaneously support both
[00:26:12] traditional policies along with modern ones, meaning we should not simply
[00:26:16] focus on technology and
[00:26:19] abandon agricultural policy, fisheries policy, we must have
[00:26:23] balanced funding, and this is the official Greek position. And thirdly,
[00:26:27] we are talking about safety at sea, you also mentioned it earlier, because for
[00:26:30] Greece, it is a priority to have.
[00:26:33] and for the application of international law in every critical
[00:26:37] point. These are our priorities which we present
[00:26:40] to our partners in Europe, and I believe that in the coming period we will
[00:26:44] have the opportunity to elaborate on the significant
[00:26:47] Greek intervention and to conclude this with a very brief comment and both of you
[00:26:50] are very important. The intervention that was made regarding the
[00:26:54] migration issue and what we saw in Ceuta with the positions of the
[00:26:57] Greek side, so we keep that in mind because it is an issue that
[00:27:01] will certainly be discussed. and the presidency, so it is among our individual
[00:27:05] actions, obviously also the migration issue, what happened in Ceuta reminds us of what
[00:27:09] Greece has been saying for a very long time. Yes, to the
[00:27:12] effective protection of Europe's external borders. No
[00:27:15] compromise on how we guard our external
[00:27:19] borders. Greece has paid a very heavy price for this issue in the past.
[00:27:22] However, in the recent period we have been following a policy that is
[00:27:26] strict and fair and no talk about Schengen.
[00:27:30] We do not believe that we are at the right time. Mr.
[00:27:37] Fili, telephonically, for the closing, for free and safe navigation, Greece
[00:27:41] must take the initiative and find initiatives and be at the forefront
[00:27:45] of these. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain cannot take
[00:27:49] initiatives and we are not, I repeat, at the center.
[00:28:02] On this, since you mentioned it, at a European level, and it is also your
[00:28:06] duty, Europeans should change their opinion on how
[00:28:09] they perceive the security of Europe,
[00:28:12] because they are monothematically and unilaterally focused on Russia and Ukraine, not that
[00:28:16] this is not the main priority, as if there is no Middle East, as if there is no Eastern
[00:28:20] Mediterranean, as if there is no South, and since we are talking about the South in relation to the refugee
[00:28:24] and migrant issues, what we observe, also with the case of
[00:28:27] Ceuta, is that there is no European
[00:28:30] solidarity, it's approximately as.
[00:28:42] there are still many things that can be done not only at a European
[00:29:15] Niko, what we are truly seeing is that it's around 8:30
[00:29:19] in the morning and the beach here in Alimos is already full of people, the
[00:29:22] temperature is around 28°C, so
[00:29:25] you understand that despite the fact that it's very early in the morning, there are people
[00:29:29] coming to enjoy the sea, to swim and of course. to
[00:29:32] cool off, because we see that in the coming days and hours we will have even
[00:29:36] higher temperatures, it will reach around 30 to
[00:29:39] 35°C, so people come to enjoy the cool, those who
[00:29:42] have stayed in Athens, of course, because we saw yesterday and this morning that many
[00:29:46] are getting on a boat and leaving to go on their summer
[00:30:47] Giannis with Iani and Giorgos Kalogiannis for
[00:30:51] that reason, I suppose, but I have to tell you that right now, where I'm walking on the
[00:30:54] sand in Alimos, until 11:30 or
[00:30:58] 12, there won't be anyone.