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[00:01:49] start a bit with Muffin many years
[00:01:53] later, the 46-year-old is expected to arrive
[00:01:56] today for the defense today exactly.
[00:02:00] Yes, because the extradition request was accepted by the Greek authorities,
[00:02:04] something expected and formal, after all, because it was not a concern in
[00:02:07] Britain, it was not a concern at all, already
[00:02:11] in the British capital, there is
[00:02:13] a team from the Homicide Department of the Greek
[00:02:17] FBI, these are the people who
[00:02:21] seem to have solved this
[00:02:23] crime, this open wound for 16 years for Greek
[00:02:27] society, however, I must tell you that from the very first moment. The 46-year-old has said
[00:02:31] that she has no connection with the
[00:02:34] accusations made against her by the report of the Criminal
[00:02:38] Investigation Department
[00:02:41] which claim that her presence is certified
[00:02:44] without her having any
[00:02:48] involvement in this crime,
[00:02:51] that is, breaking a shop window or throwing a molotov cocktail, on the contrary,
[00:02:55] it seems to be an act of incitement
[00:02:58] all these. if it is proven that it is indeed
[00:03:02] the 46-year-old, why? Because they are based on these frames.
[00:03:06] Here is a frame that the police had discovered a little
[00:03:09] while before the crime of her, the one we call with the blonde braid,
[00:03:13] exactly, very correctly, the blonde braid and it is a continuation, we also see the part of the
[00:03:17] braid
[00:03:20] on the person who is in the photographic material outside the
[00:03:23] Muffin now that the branch has
[00:03:26] flared up and if I am not mistaken, Theodosis they are also based on some.
[00:03:31] from those days where she seems to be
[00:03:34] shouting and inciting towards these
[00:03:37] actions, we have to see if she is shouting
[00:03:40] because in this audio and in the image that accompanies the
[00:03:44] audio there are two female presences with
[00:03:47] covered features,
[00:03:50] 46-year-old shouting "burn them, burn them"
[00:03:54] or another unknown woman who is
[00:03:57] very close to the 46-year-old,
[00:04:01] if we accept, of course, that her presence there
[00:04:05] is certified, because all this requires attention, the
[00:04:08] charges against the
[00:04:11] 46-year-old are very serious, however, she herself had said from
[00:04:14] the very first moment that she had nothing to do
[00:04:18] with what she is accused of and had expressed her desire
[00:04:21] through her lawyer to appear before the Greek
[00:04:25] authorities, as will finally happen today evening, the flight
[00:04:28] is expected to arrive. from London to Athens and the
[00:04:32] day after tomorrow she will face the prosecutor and the investigator
[00:04:36] in order to defend herself against what she is accused of by the
[00:04:39] report of the Forensic Investigations Department which has
[00:04:42] also carried out laboratory investigations in addition
[00:04:45] to the physical ones carried out by the police of the Homicide
[00:04:48] Department. A lot of work is being done to close
[00:04:52] this case after 16 whole
[00:04:55] years, an open wound it seems, but this crime
[00:04:59] is really an open wound and since I am given the
[00:05:03] opportunity and with your observation to say this: that for
[00:05:06] the other two, the 49-year-olds who have already been remanded in custody,
[00:05:10] for one, it has become known and from the information we
[00:05:13] have, that movable
[00:05:16] objects are identified, that is, a hat, the
[00:05:19] unique characteristics of the bag that he carries in relation to the same
[00:05:23] bag that the police claim he had with him in
[00:05:27] 2009 during common holidays that this whole
[00:05:30] group had on an Aegean island, for
[00:05:34] the other 43-year-old
[00:05:36] who does not seem to have participated either in breaking the
[00:05:40] shop window or in throwing'. inside the
[00:05:43] branch, there, according to the perfectly cross-referenced
[00:05:47] information we have, certain morphological characteristics
[00:05:50] are also certified, such as a mark on his forehead, a
[00:05:54] natural protuberance on his
[00:05:57] ear and so on, he is the only one for whom they also have two
[00:06:00] or three morphological characteristics and it seems, Theodosis, that the unraveling of the
[00:06:04] ball is somehow beginning even many years later, the police
[00:06:08] never forgot this case and
[00:06:11] these things. It seems that they are now
[00:06:14] leading us to see who were the perpetrators of that
[00:06:18] tragedy 16 years ago and let's not forget that this case is also
[00:06:22] accompanied by a judicial-slash- police rather a
[00:06:24] police fiasco because
[00:06:27] back in 2012 three people were arrested
[00:06:31] and acquitted in court, let's also go to the case with the
[00:06:34] suitcase, Theodosis, however, of course, because it seems that according to the
[00:06:38] claims of the 26-year-old, he plays a very
[00:06:42] important role, we see him here carrying the suitcase, we don't
[00:06:45] need to say what is inside, I think everyone understands, the
[00:06:49] old man seems to have played a very
[00:06:52] important role in this, who is the
[00:06:55] old man now, let's see now how he guided this
[00:06:58] man, according to his claims, when he found, he says in his
[00:07:01] testimony, he went to the apartment and found the
[00:07:05] 38-year-old British woman dead, he panicked and hit the
[00:07:08] road, so there, as he walked panicked and tried, he says.
[00:07:12] to clear his mind from the sight he saw at a bus stop he met an
[00:07:16] old man, that's what he calls him an old man, and he asked
[00:07:19] the old man, it turned out later that his name is
[00:07:22] Nikos, because he said it himself, so he asked the old man, he says
[00:07:26] what should I do, I found a body in an apartment, I think it's a normal
[00:07:29] reaction to meet a stranger and especially an elderly person and
[00:07:33] the miracle old man told him that he used to
[00:07:36] work in hospitals and knows about such cases and he says
[00:07:39] you have to get rid of it because you will get into trouble with the law. And the
[00:07:43] old man took over, not Moms with the
[00:07:46] free for his good soul, 10,000 he claims
[00:07:49] he gave him from the British woman's money from the
[00:07:52] cards to hand it over, exactly, to hand over the suitcase to the
[00:07:56] old man he found behind Panhellenic to go and
[00:07:59] dispose of the body. I think
[00:08:02] that all this is not happening, everything he said in the previous
[00:08:06] days is confirmed, that there is someone else who might have helped him or
[00:08:09] not in some way or that's what he claims. That's
[00:08:13] what he claims, but I think that
[00:08:16] at least the police, at the first stage, that is, in the
[00:08:19] preliminary investigation, probably consider them to be
[00:08:22] figments of his imagination. I think his position is getting worse
[00:08:26] every time I think, yes, yes, that in
[00:08:29] this case, silence
[00:15:08] Spetses we will go to Dimitra Kyranoudi in Germany
[00:15:12] in Leipzig where we had the
[00:15:15] appearance of a drone, it sounded
[00:15:18] an alarm at Leipzig airport yesterday, Dimitra Kyranoudi will tell
[00:15:22] us more about what the
[00:15:25] investigations say, anyway, it seems to be a very serious issue
[00:15:28] Dimitra. Good morning from Berlin, an
[00:15:32] extremely serious incident against
[00:15:35] state security.
[00:15:37] This is how German authorities officially
[00:15:40] characterize it. The reason for a
[00:15:44] drone, which was located on the
[00:15:47] runway of Leipzig Halle airport, next to
[00:15:49] a Ukrainian cargo
[00:15:52] aircraft Antonov, and according to the authorities' investigations,
[00:15:56] this particular drone was armed with
[00:16:00] an explosive device with a detonator and
[00:16:03] explosive material and, as the German
[00:16:06] Police reported. it only failed, it did not explode and we did not
[00:16:10] have a worse
[00:16:13] situation at Leipzig
[00:16:16] Halle airport. At the same time, the German authorities are investigating a second
[00:16:20] incident with an unknown object, probably also
[00:16:23] a drone, which however has not yet been located, which
[00:16:26] collided in the air at a low altitude with a
[00:16:30] second DHL
[00:16:32] aircraft, and this is because this airport is
[00:16:36] a hub. of DHL and
[00:16:39] important and a significant point for
[00:16:42] cargo transport throughout
[00:16:46] Europe, it also plays a crucial role for international
[00:16:49] supply chains in
[00:16:52] this second case the aircraft
[00:16:54] suffered minor damages, but managed to
[00:16:57] land at Hanover airport. Now the German
[00:17:01] Interior Minister Alexander Dobrind spoke of
[00:17:04] a new level of threat. for
[00:17:07] Germany, he spoke of a
[00:17:10] hybrid attack, which differs
[00:17:14] from all the hybrid threats that Germany knew
[00:17:18] until now, and this is because despite the fact, as he said,
[00:17:21] that in the past there have been many drone
[00:17:25] sightings in Germany, especially recently and especially in the
[00:17:29] last few years after the Russian invasion of
[00:17:32] Ukraine. Nevertheless, in this particular case, for the first time
[00:17:35] we have a drone which. has an explosive
[00:17:39] device, how did it get there, Dimitra, have they
[00:17:42] figured it out?
[00:17:44] No, the authorities' investigations are still in full swing, and the investigations have also
[00:17:48] been taken over by the counter-terrorism unit, among others, and the special
[00:17:52] unit for intercepting and neutralizing drones that was
[00:17:56] recently established in Germany, but also by the German secret services,
[00:18:00] in fact, the German Interior Minister yesterday interrupted his holidays
[00:18:03] and went to Leipzig with officials from the
[00:18:07] German secret services to assess this
[00:18:11] situation, we do not know who is
[00:18:14] behind this case, where did
[00:18:18] this drone, these drones start from, if the two cases
[00:18:22] are connected and of course, it
[00:18:25] causes great many questions, as Alexander Dobrind also said,
[00:18:29] the professionalism with which
[00:18:32] at least the placement of this
[00:18:34] drone in this specific place. causes
[00:18:37] also
[00:18:41] great concern throughout
[00:18:45] Europe, exactly, exactly, because
[00:18:48] we note the fact that the German authorities are talking about a new level of
[00:18:52] threat and it is also important to say that this particular airport
[00:18:56] is of crucial importance for NATO, for the German
[00:19:00] armed forces and also for Ukraine itself, from there
[00:19:03] air transport of military equipment for
[00:19:06] Ukraine begins. From 2022 onwards and
[00:19:09] there it has also moved from
[00:19:12] 2022 onwards its headquarters the
[00:19:15] Ukrainian airline Antonov, for all these
[00:19:18] reasons, therefore, Leipzig airport is considered critical infrastructure for
[00:19:21] Germany. Dimitra, stay with us to
[00:19:25] greet Mr. Angelos Syrigos, who is on our
[00:19:28] line. Mr. Syrigos, good morning.
[00:19:32] It is a very worrying incident.
[00:19:36] We don't know yet who is behind it, however, a
[00:19:39] security incident in Germany, at a central
[00:19:42] airport, a hub for military equipment transport, as Dimitra
[00:19:46] Kyranoudi told us, and an incident that comes
[00:19:50] after other security
[00:19:53] issues in Poland that we saw a while ago, in
[00:19:57] Romania, all these cause some
[00:20:00] concern about the hybrid
[00:20:04] attacks that Europe may face from now on.
[00:20:08] I believe that this will be the daily reality of war
[00:20:11] conflicts in the future throughout
[00:20:13] the world, that is, at this moment the daily
[00:20:17] reality yes, at
[00:20:20] this moment the front in Ukraine has been
[00:20:24] stable for a very long time, that is,
[00:20:27] it is a zone theoretically 1,300
[00:20:31] km where there is a
[00:20:34] front 3-4 km wide.
[00:20:38] In this front, whoever enters it as a human, has
[00:20:42] an average life expectancy of 20 minutes, this
[00:20:45] means that the chances of either the Russians
[00:20:49] or the Ukrainians winning on the front are extremely
[00:20:53] limited, that is, the Russians
[00:20:56] have huge losses they gain a few
[00:21:00] tens of meters every day because
[00:21:03] they receive constant attacks from drones, so the
[00:21:06] war has been transferred from the main
[00:21:09] front to remote cities to
[00:21:12] military installations of the two countries usually at
[00:21:15] night where they cannot be easily detected
[00:21:18] and it now exceeds the narrow
[00:21:22] military framework, that is, both
[00:21:25] sides seek to increase the cost of the war for the
[00:21:29] other, here we must note
[00:21:32] that according to what has become known, I am not going to say who sent
[00:21:36] it, where the drone was found, right next to it was
[00:21:39] the center of a Ukrainian transportation company,
[00:21:43] an airline,
[00:21:47] that's what we're going to do, yes.
[00:21:55] to be small in terms of passenger transport, but
[00:21:59] it is one of the central airports for the transport of
[00:22:03] materials for warehouses for all these things,
[00:22:06] therefore we cannot know what the exact
[00:22:10] target was, what we see however at this moment is
[00:22:13] that both sides want
[00:22:17] to create problems by
[00:22:20] moving the war somewhere else from the
[00:22:22] front, the story with the drone that
[00:22:25] was found in the Ionian Sea
[00:22:29] a while ago, the Ukrainian drone,
[00:22:32] it has not been clarified how it got there, it has not been clarified what its
[00:22:36] target was, it is believed that it was probably targeting
[00:22:39] Russian ships, the fleet of the famous
[00:22:42] shadow fleet that Russia uses, which travel to
[00:22:46] various regions that is.
[00:22:53] This can also make us worried, Mr.
[00:22:55] Sirigos.
[00:23:01] I don't know if you can hear, yes, we have a communication problem, I want to
[00:23:04] ask Dimitra Kyranoudi, Dimitra, I would like to
[00:23:08] add something to what Mr. Syrigos
[00:23:11] mentioned, it is interesting and we must keep a
[00:23:15] note of what Alexander Dobrind, the German Interior Minister,
[00:23:18] said. At the moment, the investigations of the German authorities
[00:23:22] are going in every direction and the possibility that
[00:23:25] foreign forces, as he characteristically said, are behind
[00:23:29] this is not ruled out. The Germans are very
[00:23:31] careful in their statements, they do not mention
[00:23:35] Russia, but it is a fact that in recent
[00:23:39] years, in many
[00:23:42] of these hybrid attacks, we had a similar
[00:23:46] case again at Leipzig airport in 2024 when.
[00:23:50] a DHL package exploded and there the authorities reached
[00:23:53] Russian factors, there is an
[00:23:57] activation of the German authorities who are looking
[00:24:00] in this direction, of course, but they are careful in their statements,
[00:24:04] because there have been incidents from the
[00:24:07] other side, let me remind you of the Nordstream case, where at
[00:24:10] first the authorities pointed to Russia,
[00:24:13] but it finally seems that Ukraine was
[00:24:17] behind this case, but everything points
[00:24:21] to the fact that the war has now, even at a hybrid
[00:24:23] level, moved outside
[00:24:27] and beyond Ukraine itself, and this is what is alarming Germany
[00:24:30] at the moment, and that is why Germany is currently in
[00:24:33] a peculiar state of alarm, and we see
[00:24:37] this really every day, every day at
[00:24:41] all levels, what
[00:24:43] German experts have been saying since yesterday is that Germany, despite its
[00:24:47] efforts, is not ready to deal with it.
[00:24:54] we thank you for now, of course we are following the issue, we will wait
[00:24:58] for the announcements of the German authorities to return to the discussion
[00:25:01] with Mr. Syrigos and change the subject. a small matter to move on to our own
[00:25:05] Mr. Syrigos because yesterday we had the
[00:25:08] signatures for the entry of France into this
[00:25:12] big project that is being done for the electrical interconnection
[00:25:15] Greece-Cyprus and we would like you to
[00:25:19] explain to us the geopolitical dimension of this
[00:25:22] development which is very important for the interests of the country as
[00:25:26] we understand. So, for a very
[00:25:30] long time, when I say a very long time, I mean since 2014
[00:25:34] this project of the electrical interconnection of Greece
[00:25:37] Cyprus, Israel in its first part, Greece Cyprus, had started.
[00:25:41] Due to problems that the previous group that had
[00:25:44] undertaken it had, from 2020 Admié
[00:25:48] took over the entire project. Yes, he broke it into two
[00:25:51] sections, the first Athens, Piraeus,
[00:25:55] Crete, which was completed, and the second Crete,
[00:25:58] Cyprus, in which it had various problems, which were related
[00:26:02] to the reaction of the Turks
[00:26:04] which
[00:26:07] was extremely intense.
[00:26:09] They had created problems in Kassos, later they created
[00:26:13] problems outside Crete,
[00:26:15] so there were quite a few
[00:26:19] issues with Turkey. Greece at that stage
[00:26:22] decided not to try to resolve the
[00:26:26] issue through discussions, it did
[00:26:29] not succeed. What happened yesterday is that the
[00:26:32] French investment group Meridian acquired
[00:26:36] a majority package,
[00:26:38] that is, 75% of the project
[00:26:42] first belonged to the Greeks, from
[00:26:45] 75%, 66% now passes to the
[00:26:48] French, so the
[00:26:51] burden of risk will also be borne by Athens and
[00:26:54] Paris and I think the goal is to
[00:26:57] overcome Turkish reactions, without
[00:27:00] having an incident.
[00:27:03] Okay, we understand that the presence of the
[00:27:06] French in this sensitive part of the eastern Mediterranean and
[00:27:09] in the path that the cable follows in the
[00:27:13] southeastern Aegean, we understand that it certainly
[00:27:16] strengthens the position of Athens, of course, but also the chances of
[00:27:20] completing this project within the framework
[00:27:23] which is very important, as you told us. To
[00:27:27] put it a little differently, the French had no reason to
[00:27:30] get into this project if... they believed it wouldn't happen,
[00:27:34] they had no reason to acquire, and in fact
[00:27:37] majority, the capital base of the
[00:27:39] project. Moreover, this specific company
[00:27:43] has know-how in this area, meaning we have
[00:27:46] increased probability and capability of implementation
[00:27:50] and I believe that the immediate next step is the acceleration
[00:27:54] of seafloor surveys, but the most basic for me
[00:27:57] is that the French would not have entered into the process of
[00:28:00] investing if they didn't... see this thing happening.
[00:28:04] I note that this
[00:28:07] issue had gotten stuck, in my opinion, completely mistakenly, in
[00:28:11] an, in quotes, internal
[00:28:14] dispute between Greece and the Cypriot
[00:28:17] Republic. That is, the question had been raised
[00:28:20] as to whether the financial data that are
[00:28:24] presented correspond to today, whether
[00:28:27] it is viable or not. The importance of the project is not whether
[00:28:30] it is viable or not. It is of strategic importance,
[00:28:34] yes, exactly, it's like saying, why are you buying
[00:28:38] F-35s, is it viable to buy F-35s, no, it's not viable,
[00:28:41] the F-35 won't make its money back, but you buy
[00:28:44] F-35s as a deterrent for the other
[00:28:47] side to know not to touch you. This
[00:28:50] is also the meaning of the strategic interconnection of
[00:28:54] Greece with Cyprus and then with Israel, because
[00:28:57] now the study for the interconnection of Cyprus with Israel is
[00:29:01] on the table. Mr. Syrigos, we thank you very, very
[00:29:04] much for all the information and at this
[00:29:07] point I think we should change the subject a bit
[00:29:10] and discuss a topic that
[00:29:14] concerns hate speech on social media. Let's welcome
[00:29:18] Ms. Elena Goulia who is a
[00:29:20] psychologist because
[00:29:23] most of us have been
[00:29:27] victims of this hate speech on
[00:29:29] social media. We see that it is very much. Now for
[00:29:33] anyone who has an account on social networks
[00:29:37] with the power hidden behind a
[00:29:39] keyboard to be able to express themselves coarsely
[00:29:43] many times and thus threateningly
[00:29:47] and all this brings a very
[00:29:49] big wave on social
[00:29:53] media which, however, brings other consequences for the one
[00:29:57] who receives hate speech, It is worth saying that social
[00:30:00] media are the mirror of our society and
[00:30:04] also become the magnifying glass essentially of the emotions
[00:30:08] of our society and here there is an emotion,
[00:30:11] anger, which spreads with great
[00:30:15] speed mainly through social media.
[00:30:17] Anger that is expressed through
[00:30:20] hate speech on social media. Exactly, anger is normal,
[00:30:24] hate speech is not, because it turns against people and aims
[00:30:27] to degrade them, to belittle them. It's a very
[00:30:31] toxic environment now. We see it, there is
[00:30:34] anonymity, which of course helps,
[00:30:38] in quotes, these people who want to
[00:30:41] comment coarsely to be able to do it without any
[00:30:45] consequences, exactly. For this reason, it is worth mentioning at this point
[00:30:48] the phenomenon of online disinhibition. What
[00:30:52] is this? It is a term introduced by a
[00:30:56] psychologist in 2004 which refers to the tendency of
[00:30:59] people to express themselves as
[00:31:03] they like through social media, something they wouldn't do...