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[00:00:00] that social media is the mirror of our society
[00:00:03] and it also becomes the magnifying
[00:00:06] glass essentially of the emotions of our society and there is not one
[00:00:10] emotion, anger, which
[00:00:13] runs at high speed,
[00:00:17] suppressed anger, which is expressed through hate speech
[00:00:20] on social media, exactly, anger is normal, hate speech
[00:00:24] is not, because it is directed against people and aims
[00:00:28] to degrade them, to.
[00:00:31] to degrade them, however, a very toxic environment now we see it, there is
[00:00:34] anonymity, which of course helps,
[00:00:38] in quotes, these people who want to
[00:00:41] comment in a vulgar way to be able to do so without any
[00:00:45] consequences. Exactly, for this reason, it is worth mentioning at this point the phenomenon of
[00:00:48] online disinhibition, what
[00:00:52] is it? It is a term introduced by a
[00:00:56] psychologist in 2004 which refers to people's tendency.
[00:01:00] to express themselves as they want through
[00:01:04] social media, something they wouldn't do, they wouldn't
[00:01:07] express themselves if they were face
[00:01:11] to face, exactly, in simple words, what does it mean that there the
[00:01:14] brakes of logic and
[00:01:17] behavior break, so yes, there is an intense
[00:01:20] anger behind it, that anger is not innate,
[00:01:24] meaning we were not born with anger, but surely
[00:01:27] as children we saw it somewhere. We saw it in our home, to be a
[00:01:31] dominant emotion, to express everything through
[00:01:35] anger, or even on the contrary to suppress
[00:01:38] anger, meaning not to be allowed to express
[00:01:40] it, so as an adult, you cannot
[00:01:44] regulate it, however, here's how we can
[00:01:47] protect ourselves, to be able to regulate it, that's the
[00:01:50] most important thing, especially regarding
[00:01:53] hate speech on social media, before
[00:01:57] we press that send button to...
[00:02:00] let's go back a few seconds and think
[00:02:04] will it help if I express myself this way
[00:02:06] or does it touch something of my own or does this anger
[00:02:10] have to do with me, is it directed at me and for the person
[00:02:14] who receives it, I understand correctly Ms. Goulias, if someone
[00:02:17] receives, because we see it in very young ages, we see
[00:02:21] that children in school, in adolescence,
[00:02:24] receive such negative comments through social media and it affects
[00:02:28] their psychology, of course. When someone receives such
[00:02:31] a negative, vulgar comment,
[00:02:34] they should realize that behind it perhaps lies a
[00:02:37] miserable person, an angry person, and that it doesn't concern
[00:02:41] them that much, perhaps in such a way, children and adults could be armored,
[00:02:44] exactly, exactly, because anger is the
[00:02:48] iceberg essentially, because it is a secondary
[00:02:51] emotion, before anger, there are some other primary
[00:02:55] emotions which come and anger covers them, a
[00:02:59] sadness. It cannot become anger, so we must be able
[00:03:02] to see why
[00:03:04] we express, why someone has this
[00:03:08] need to wag their finger, to speak
[00:03:10] vulgarly, to curse possibly, why anger comes
[00:03:14] out, what does it serve, what does it serve
[00:03:16] us for? And obviously to, to
[00:03:20] children perhaps and if we can give a message to children who
[00:03:24] receive hate speech, what should
[00:03:27] these children do in this situation? Do they report it to their
[00:03:31] parents, should they protect themselves in some other way? Surely they should
[00:03:35] report it to their parents, because we have seen that there are also
[00:03:38] very bad results when they don't
[00:03:42] report it to their parents, now beyond that, when it concerns, when it comes to
[00:03:46] an adult, there I think they shouldn't
[00:03:49] deal with it further, so
[00:03:52] you say indifference or not answering, not getting into the
[00:03:55] process, to have it then
[00:03:58] hate speech becomes a. field of confrontation, it becomes a field
[00:04:01] of confrontation because there anger
[00:04:04] spreads very easily on the internet, there is anonymity,
[00:04:08] there is someone is invisible,
[00:04:12] so from the moment we don't see the face, the
[00:04:15] eyes, we don't see the emotions of the person we have in front of us, it is very
[00:04:18] easy to express ourselves this
[00:04:21] way, it is usually with vulgarity, and it is also very easy,
[00:04:25] we see that a horde of these
[00:04:28] messages is created. We see that there is mimicry
[00:04:31] usually hundreds of such
[00:04:34] critical messages and it is very normal for us
[00:04:38] to express ourselves in the same way, that is,
[00:04:41] hatred spreads very quickly, thank
[00:04:44] you very much for being with us today, because in some way we all
[00:04:48] need to understand why all this is happening, but also
[00:04:51] to find ways to put a stop to all this so that it doesn't affect
[00:04:55] us, without this necessarily being our own emotional
[00:04:58] resilience to all this. Because it's enough, we don't need to
[00:05:02] endure everything and the digital resilience
[00:13:24] days we had these fires which
[00:13:27] marked us, we have with us to open our
[00:13:31] political discussion, Mr. Tasos Gaitanis, from
[00:13:35] New Democracy and in our connection we have Mr. Nikolaos Farantouris,
[00:13:39] MEP of PASOK, good morning, good morning, good morning
[00:13:42] to you, Kefalonia, I hope the
[00:13:45] signal is good and the image and sound, I hear you and
[00:13:49] see you perfectly, good morning to you, and the image and sound are fine Mr. Farantouris,
[00:13:53] now Mr. Farantouris, we are a little jealous because.
[00:13:55] you are there in beautiful Kefalonia, we are here in Athens, well,
[00:13:59] our time will come, I chose, I chose to connect from the port of
[00:14:02] Sami, which is the port of Kefalonia, in the background is Ithaca, but not
[00:14:06] to make you jealous, because here is a place where I also
[00:14:10] gather in the mornings and work, work continues, despite the
[00:14:13] beautiful images you see in the background, however, proportionately speaking,
[00:14:17] not that Athens is better than Kefalonia, but
[00:14:20] it is very good in terms of traffic, so at least we who
[00:14:24] are. these
[00:14:30] days that it is a different city exactly, exactly, we realize
[00:14:34] how beautiful Athens is. So let's go to our discussion, however, as
[00:14:37] Tina said, the dominant issue these days
[00:14:41] is, of course, the fires and the question
[00:14:44] of course of all people and especially of the fire victims
[00:14:48] is when will they be compensated, how quickly will the
[00:14:51] procedures move, when will they get their money to rebuild their
[00:14:55] properties and their livelihoods that were lost. Mr. Ioannidis, what you are saying is very correct,
[00:14:59] we must look at the next day. The next day is first of all relief
[00:15:02] for the affected. The Prime Minister said yesterday that the procedures will be done very
[00:15:06] quickly with increased amounts for the affected for
[00:15:10] a series of measures which are evolving for
[00:15:13] businesses, for debtors, obviously for those whose
[00:15:15] homes and household appliances were destroyed.
[00:15:19] And of course, to what I attach great importance to are the
[00:15:23] measures needed to prevent. floods in the
[00:15:26] autumn, which will logically again bring storms, because in recent
[00:15:30] years the climate dictates this, the
[00:15:33] relief will be significant, our fellow citizens
[00:15:36] will not be alone in this disaster they suffered and because
[00:15:40] you know I hear various things in recent days, first of all, no one is
[00:15:44] happy when disasters and
[00:15:46] fires happen. The issue is what we need to do to prevent
[00:15:50] them. I hear a nihilistic criticism from the
[00:15:53] opposition which I think has nothing to do with
[00:15:57] reality. I say it again, anyone whose house was burned, if their house was burned,
[00:16:01] whatever you tell him, he doesn't hear anything
[00:16:04] and I understand him and obviously in his place everyone would be the same.
[00:16:07] We were, but steps have been taken forward in recent
[00:16:10] years, for example, for prevention alone, for
[00:16:14] anti-fire measures, 500 million euros have been given in the last
[00:16:17] 5 years, the data will be presented in detail in the
[00:16:21] coming days, we know where there were anti-fire measures, meaning
[00:16:25] grass was cut,
[00:16:27] meaning the forest was cleared, the environmental damage
[00:16:31] was much milder, we have more aerial means, we have
[00:16:35] more men in the...
[00:16:37] two, a better organization has been made and for this
[00:16:41] reason the destruction was not, if all
[00:16:44] this did not exist, it would have been much greater, no one can
[00:16:48] confirm this in the field, but surely the
[00:16:51] conditions have also changed, the climatological ones I mean, you saw that on
[00:16:54] some days you described the fires all day, aerial means did
[00:16:58] not fly and I want to give another
[00:17:00] dimension, for the first time on such a
[00:17:03] scale we hear about arrests being made for the fires.
[00:17:08] We see that there are arsons, we see that
[00:17:11] there is negligence, when for example, the conditions are
[00:17:14] inappropriate and you take the grinder to cut iron, which
[00:17:17] creates sparks, the
[00:17:20] sparks will go to the grass, burn it and a fire will spread, even,
[00:17:24] even with the network we have seen videos
[00:17:28] about it in northern Greece and elsewhere, all these are
[00:17:31] issues which make prevention
[00:17:35] difficult, but we must focus on prevention.
[00:17:44] because you understand that all areas, even
[00:17:47] even those that were not burned, the issue is not to see
[00:17:51] the areas that were not burned to drown in the
[00:17:54] autumn that is coming, very correctly, as I said before, the Prime Minister said that from
[00:17:58] September 15th all procedures should begin in the
[00:18:01] field to have flood protection and to do the
[00:18:05] anti-erosion works exactly so that this
[00:18:09] possibility exists and on the other hand we must look at the forest, you know
[00:18:12] discussions are being heard again that where
[00:18:15] there was a forest there will be no more, this is not true, forest
[00:18:19] areas that are destroyed are immediately reforested,
[00:18:22] there is natural reforestation that the forest itself
[00:18:25] achieves, there are artificial ones of course that are done by
[00:18:29] all agencies and by the private sector, the all together
[00:18:33] we can, for example, is one such action that your channel here supports with
[00:18:37] success. For all these years everything humanly
[00:18:39] possible is being done, it is only a Greek phenomenon, we unfortunately see that the
[00:18:43] European south, due to climate change, we saw in previous weeks what
[00:18:46] happened in France and Spain, the issue is we must
[00:18:49] invest much more in prevention, the country has made progress
[00:18:52] from 2019 until today in these areas, it has
[00:18:56] done, I think the nihilistic criticism and leveling
[00:18:59] that nothing has been done, citizens don't hear it, first of all, there are
[00:19:03] problems, of course we have done everything perfectly, no.
[00:19:07] You give us a very good cue to go to Mr. Farantouris, Mr.
[00:19:10] Farantouris, the truth is that this nihilistic
[00:19:13] policy leads
[00:19:15] nowhere.
[00:19:18] Let's close our eyes for a minute and let's consider whether
[00:19:21] as citizens, not as political personnel of the country, let's
[00:19:25] forget our political identities, at least those of us who
[00:19:28] were close to the fires, you who covered the developments journalistically,
[00:19:31] but also some of us who were in the fires, I was in
[00:19:35] Rethymno unfortunately on the day
[00:19:37] of the loss of the two children, I was in Kefalonia, I was in
[00:19:41] Attica only in the last days, at the fronts, which
[00:19:44] you covered journalistically, so let's close our eyes and think if the
[00:19:48] citizens of this country in recent years are satisfied with
[00:19:52] the coordinated action of the
[00:19:56] authorities, of the state, of the means
[00:19:59] they have, with thousands of acres burned,
[00:20:02] as many properties lost and as many human
[00:20:06] lives.
[00:20:09] So I am not satisfied and I am not saying this because
[00:20:12] I represent the opposition in this hospitable panel, I am saying it as a citizen
[00:20:15] of this country and I want to submit the proposals
[00:20:19] of my party with scientific adequacy
[00:20:23] and with national responsibility, if you like, not with
[00:20:27] opposition rhetoric, because that's how we will become better, so we say
[00:20:31] the following, the funds for forest firefighting unfortunately have not
[00:20:35] been effective, we have exclusions from
[00:20:38] critical funds from the
[00:20:41] Recovery Fund, which are not justified.
[00:20:45] We have an uneven allocation of funds in
[00:20:48] relation to suppression versus prevention,
[00:20:51] 80% suppression, 20% prevention, our
[00:20:55] tongue has been wagging all these years to say that prevention is the
[00:20:58] prerequisite for dealing with a fire
[00:21:02] when it occurs, but only 20% goes to prevention and
[00:21:05] 80% goes to suppression, should not this
[00:21:09] uneven allocation be reversed? Thirdly, we have men,
[00:21:12] we have personnel of three speeds, which creates
[00:21:15] a problem of cohesion, despite the superhuman efforts of our forest firefighters.
[00:21:19] The people themselves say it, we have permanent forest firefighters who
[00:21:23] are not enough, so new hirings are needed, there are
[00:21:26] seasonal forest firefighters who go home in the autumn, so they do not
[00:21:30] participate in prevention, in organization, in training, in
[00:21:33] certification, we remember them again when
[00:21:36] the summer season comes and we also have a third category
[00:21:40] of forest firefighters, volunteers, who
[00:21:43] selflessly rush to help, people
[00:21:46] next door, young children, whom we visited.
[00:21:50] teams, what do these people say that they have no real
[00:21:53] motivation, but also no real help from the state, the state does not even cover
[00:21:57] their travel expenses, we visited outposts in Penteli
[00:22:01] with colleagues from PASOK about four
[00:22:04] weeks ago and they told us that they even need to
[00:22:08] pay tolls to come from Peristeri to staff
[00:22:11] voluntary forest firefighting units in eastern Attica. So I say
[00:22:15] some things that I think the state and the
[00:22:18] respective government, if they took them into account, we would have a better
[00:22:21] response in the field, finally, the architecture of
[00:22:25] dealing with
[00:22:28] such incidents, natural disasters,
[00:22:30] fires and anything else, obviously caused by
[00:22:34] external factors or by human-induced factors, but we need to
[00:22:37] deal with it as a coordinated state, the forest service participates
[00:22:41] minimally in prevention, should not the forest service instead of
[00:22:45] forestry work all year round participate more actively in prevention, so what
[00:22:48] do we say at PASOK? We say that there is another model that
[00:22:52] the government should listen to with a little more
[00:22:55] understanding and less arrogance
[00:22:58] and possibly adopt, these are good practices that
[00:23:02] are applied in other countries, we do not
[00:23:06] ignore the phenomenon of the climate
[00:23:09] crisis which fuels all these large
[00:23:13] fires that we see every year, on the other hand,
[00:23:16] excuse me, I believe that the response in the field.
[00:23:20] is not the appropriate one, it is not
[00:23:23] satisfactory, at least what the Greek citizen would expect
[00:23:26] each year to be better and this is not a
[00:23:30] barren opposition, I want to say one last thing in a few seconds, to
[00:23:33] give to the gentleman to answer in a few seconds,
[00:23:37] you know, with a sense of national responsibility we do our duty in the
[00:23:40] European Parliament and an effort that had started in
[00:23:43] 2020 to harmonize
[00:23:46] civil protection policies across Europe and...
[00:23:50] indeed the rapporteur of this effort in the European Parliament was the then
[00:23:53] MEP and current president of PASOK, Nikos
[00:23:55] Androulakis, a work which we continue today, we hope
[00:23:59] it will come to cover gaps within the country, but the
[00:24:03] primary responsibility is here, with the state, with the
[00:24:06] government to understand what the architectural flaws of
[00:24:09] firefighting are, to emphasize prevention and
[00:24:12] finally to use the funds that are coming
[00:24:16] much better than it does today. The
[00:24:24] point is that a lot is given to suppression and less to
[00:24:27] prevention, let's take a look at this
[00:24:30] in 2019 when Mr. Farantouris was not a member of PASOK, he was a member of
[00:24:34] SYRIZA, we received a general secretariat of civil
[00:24:38] protection.
[00:24:41] No, wait a minute, let him answer.
[00:24:45] Mr. Farantouris, you were not a member of SYRIZA in 2019, I made
[00:24:48] a mistake, I didn't say anything else.
[00:24:50] Yes, you made a mistake, I entered politics in 2023 and until
[00:24:54] then I was not a member of any party. In
[00:24:56] 2023 you joined as a member of SYRIZA, which until
[00:25:00] 2019 governed and handed over a general secretariat of civil
[00:25:03] protection which had nothing, neither prevention nor
[00:25:07] suppression and was in an inappropriate building. So what should
[00:25:11] we have done then to strengthen all these
[00:25:14] obviously suppression, we were missing aerial means, we were missing
[00:25:18] 112, we were missing. better organization and of course to
[00:25:21] strengthen prevention,
[00:25:25] the anti-fire measures and the 500 million mainly come from the Recovery
[00:25:28] Fund, the forest service participates in the planning of the anti-fire measures,
[00:25:32] in fact the forest service also proposes and the state has followed this, the
[00:25:36] clearing to be done mainly within the anti-fire period to
[00:25:39] compact, to put it simply, the forest during the critical and
[00:25:42] difficult months, there are other prevention issues,
[00:25:46] other measures, of course the air tractors, those who...
[00:25:59] region, with money that this government has allocated, cameras have been installed in the...
[00:26:11] has been done these years Mr. Ioannidis, so I want to say
[00:26:14] that I hear what Mr. Farantouris is saying, it would be useful for PASOK to tell us
[00:26:18] specific measures which it doesn't say
[00:26:21] however and I'm not saying it today for Mr. Farantouris
[00:26:24] generally the criticism of leveling that nothing has been done, for example we saw representatives
[00:26:28] of the Hellenic party go.
[00:26:32] to the field and say for another year the state succeeded, I say we are not
[00:26:35] satisfied, yes, neither houses nor areas, but on the
[00:26:39] other hand, if a fire starts, Mr. Farantouris says he was in Rethymno, in Rethymno the
[00:26:43] aerial means did not fly, 110
[00:26:46] km per hour the gusts of wind, in Kefalonia,
[00:26:49] I read, if I read wrong, I will say it wrong, that
[00:26:53] a fire started
[00:26:56] from an arsonist, someone deliberately started it, I mean
[00:27:00] that we need to work much more on it. and we
[00:27:03] citizens, for example, not to go to light a barbecue
[00:27:06] when there are four or five
[00:27:10] danger levels, you know we didn't have these in mind
[00:27:13] in previous years, we obviously need to we will work much more on prevention,
[00:27:17] but we are open as a government to listen, because you know
[00:27:21] these measures do not have political color and we have
[00:27:24] more men sir, let's have
[00:27:26] a discussion, let's have a single front on these
[00:27:30] issues, that would be it. this
[00:27:32] table
[00:27:42] because he will meet his colleagues in autumn what happened in
[00:27:45] France and Spain and you will see in many cases
[00:27:49] that Greece is better organized, I say it
[00:27:52] a second time, we haven't done everything perfectly, obviously there are
[00:27:55] issues that we need to improve on, we respond
[00:27:58] to infrastructure criticism and
[00:28:01] horizontal criticism. that nothing has happened.
[00:28:03] τίποτα.
[00:28:06] let's conclude Mr. Farantouris. A small comment. First, I congratulate you on your
[00:28:10] report from the previous, if I'm not
[00:28:12] mistaken, Tuesday, as I have the sea behind me, you finally
[00:28:16] talked about the Aegean and the de-Hellenization of fishing in the Aegean by
[00:28:20] the Turkish
[00:28:23] provocations of Turkish fishing vessels, things that we have highlighted in
[00:28:27] Brussels and we also have developments and I would gladly say it's worth it to do
[00:28:31] a follow up, a continuation. In your report, it's an issue we are
[00:28:34] following, secondly and to conclude, I will tell you
[00:28:37] this, it does not help, and I think this is
[00:28:41] the leveling factor, to compare with the
[00:28:44] past, but to see what better can be done in the
[00:28:48] present and in the future, I say this to my dear Mr. Gaitani,
[00:28:51] because it is a spiral the regression always to the
[00:28:55] past, for me the starting point is the past, Mr.
[00:28:58] Farantouris, we remember where we started from, if we had
[00:29:01] better.
[00:29:09] especially on the front of civil protection and firefighting, I don't think
[00:29:13] the vast majority of citizens are happy with
[00:29:16] the developments every autumn in the warm period, citizens
[00:29:20] know that there is great improvement Mr. Farantouris
[00:29:23] and they judge it with yesterday, let's wish
[00:29:27] a good rest and let's hope we don't have any more such
[00:29:30] incidents on August 15th.
[00:29:32] to all, be well, be well, thank you, Mr. Farantouris, Mr. Gaitani,
[00:29:36] thank you very much, we will get up yes, we will get up,
[00:29:39] we will get up, why not, we will get up then, we will get up, the question is where we will go, but, we
[00:29:43] will travel now, we will go a little out of bounds, we will
[00:29:46] go, to Sicily and to the
[00:29:50] island of Vulcano, where Daphne
[00:29:53] Grigoriadi is, because she is there in the
[00:29:56] places where filming for the Odyssey took place, we are also used to discussing with Daphne
[00:30:00] issues of the economy, issues that
[00:30:04] concern our pockets, but now we are in a completely different
[00:30:07] environment, Daphne is really there where it essentially
[00:30:11] took place on the island which played Ithaca,
[00:30:14] Daphne, good morning to you, good
[00:30:17] morning to you, bon jorno, just a correction to the title because I see Favignana below that
[00:30:21] we are not in this point, we are in the Aeolian Islands, in Vulcano,
[00:30:24] as you also said,
[00:30:27] a very important island also from a geographical
[00:30:30] point of view. Also because it is volcanic like
[00:30:34] all the islands and a very important island because here important
[00:30:37] scenes from the filming of the Odyssey took place,
[00:30:41] such as for example the scene where we saw
[00:30:44] Odysseus tied to the mast to hear the
[00:30:47] song of the sirens or the scene where
[00:30:50] he passes between the area
[00:30:54] where Scylla is, you also see behind me the relevant
[00:30:57] shots and this whole film is a very good
[00:31:00] opportunity to also... promote Greek culture
[00:31:04] of course but also