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[00:00:00] similar phenomena, but I think the level has fallen very
[00:00:04] low. I was
[00:00:07] impressed by the attack on the prosecutor of the Supreme Court.
[00:00:11] Everyone can have an opinion
[00:00:14] about a decision,
[00:00:17] and it can be a decision,
[00:00:20] but a personal attack on a person
[00:00:23] who was nominated by almost all of his
[00:00:27] colleagues for this position.
[00:00:30] To accuse him of being
[00:00:34] controlled by the government
[00:00:37] is a conscious effort
[00:00:40] to undermine
[00:00:43] institutions, and I think all
[00:00:45] of this will come back to haunt
[00:00:48] us, Vasilis.
[00:00:50] I don't
[00:00:52] think so. Yes, I completely agree that we will get tired of
[00:00:55] arguing, and September is very close for us to
[00:00:58] say that. We are currently seeing September, and in the
[00:01:02] coming months we will see it many times. That is, we will go to
[00:01:05] elections with wiretaps, with recycling
[00:01:08] houses, with NOVA again,
[00:01:12] with OPC, with all these
[00:01:15] kinds of scandals or can exhaust its ammunition
[00:01:18] following us for many months. It will be a very
[00:01:22] polarized election, in my personal opinion, and
[00:01:25] I really want to make a comment about the case of the attack on the
[00:01:29] prosecutor. Generally, at the
[00:01:31] Supreme Court, if we are now attacking
[00:01:35] a prosecutor who was truly elected by the vote of
[00:01:39] the judges, that is, the judicial body, and
[00:01:43] not by appointment from a party, then where will
[00:01:46] we really go? Then, that is, what will be the accusations against the
[00:01:50] government? It doesn't matter if there have been scandals, in my
[00:01:53] personal opinion, there is a very serious problem with the wiretapping issue, a very
[00:01:57] serious problem that needs to be investigated. But when
[00:02:00] you reach the point of attacking the Supreme Court for one
[00:02:03] of its decisions, then what else will we hear? That we live under a
[00:02:07] regime, that we have a junta? What else, that is,
[00:02:10] needs to be said? And all these things are very serious, and
[00:02:14] in any case, what I wonder, I don't know, you are
[00:02:18] more experienced than me, but this, if I'm not mistaken, is the fourth
[00:02:22] consecutive decision from the Supreme Court, and I wonder
[00:02:25] if, in the end, this alone is enough to create, as they
[00:02:29] say, at least from the government's side, a political scarecrow to
[00:02:33] shift the discussion from the major and substantive issues,
[00:02:37] that is, from programmatic confrontation, and not from the confrontation of
[00:02:40] slogans and captions.
[00:02:43] Yes, I want to say the following: at some point, all this
[00:02:47] will fade in the sense that while we will go to elections and
[00:02:51] such issues will be brought up, the essence will always be the
[00:02:54] programmatic statements and mainly the economic program of the
[00:02:57] parties. What
[00:03:00] happens with the TIF? The prime minister will
[00:03:04] go to the TIF on September 5-6, and
[00:03:08] the parties rushed to get ahead on September 2 for Mr.
[00:03:11] Tsipras to announce his economic program, and on September 3,
[00:03:15] Nikos Androulakis will hold a large event for PASOK to
[00:03:19] announce his economic program and various
[00:03:22] governmental programs. That is, it's a
[00:03:25] competition to see who will announce earlier to
[00:03:29] cover the announcements of the others. We will essentially go to the
[00:03:32] elections again with the pockets of the Greeks, again with their
[00:03:35] economic survival and livelihood, but
[00:03:39] we will also have the issues of scandals and scandal-mongering
[00:03:43] hanging over the government.
[00:03:45] Thanasis,
[00:03:48] let's take the wiretapping issue. I would have expected, I wrote about it from the
[00:03:52] very first moment, a discussion,
[00:03:55] how we citizens will be protected from the arbitrariness of
[00:03:58] power. So this political
[00:04:02] discussion has not taken place to this day, and it is the
[00:04:06] discussion that concerns all of us, and when I say discussion, it's not just about a
[00:04:09] couch, and I'm talking about proposals for how tomorrow
[00:04:13] morning Mr. Mavridis, Mr. Kanellis can be protected
[00:04:17] from the possibility of
[00:04:21] a police or national
[00:04:24] security officer - everything is done in the name of national security all
[00:04:28] over the planet - from arbitrariness, from becoming
[00:04:32] a victim of arbitrariness. What are the safety
[00:04:35] valves?
[00:04:38] You will tell me, this does not produce a result, the Mitsotakis government falls.
[00:04:41] We don't disagree,
[00:04:44] but generally, political dialogue is missing,
[00:04:48] proposals are missing. The parties
[00:04:51] go to the elections with the logic, let's go and
[00:04:54] see. I remember
[00:04:57] this. I was very, I am
[00:05:01] young, and the late Evangelos
[00:05:04] Giannopoulos of PASOK, we had him in some elections.
[00:05:07] We were a small group of colleagues, and we kept asking
[00:05:11] what PASOK's program was. PASOK's program, he said at some point,
[00:05:14] annoyed, that we will govern, this
[00:05:18] is the program. So this logic, this mentality
[00:05:21] continues to apply. You know, at some point they
[00:05:25] give us a brochure which I doubt if they have even read
[00:05:28] it and they say here is our
[00:05:32] program. But
[00:05:34] we have this, it reflects a society which
[00:05:38] is in deep crisis, a political
[00:05:41] and cultural crisis.
[00:05:43] And the result of the crisis we saw with a
[00:05:47] bankruptcy which is as if it passed and
[00:05:50] touched us,
[00:05:52] and I am afraid that the next bankruptcy will be heavier,
[00:05:55] and its impact
[00:05:59] will be catalytic. Let's look at our world
[00:06:02] how it is shaping up next to us, not on the other
[00:06:06] side of the world, next to us. Yesterday we had
[00:06:09] a significant agreement. A defensive
[00:06:13] agreement between
[00:06:15] Pakistan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. The
[00:06:19] world around us is changing in a dynamic way and
[00:06:23] we are dealing with whether the
[00:06:26] prosecutor of the Supreme Court is with the government or not with the government. You
[00:06:30] will say, if justice is directed by the
[00:06:33] government, isn't that serious? It is serious, but in
[00:06:37] this case, the criticism seems a little
[00:06:41] absurd. Unless all
[00:06:44] senior judges are all Mitsotakis's, what else can
[00:06:48] I say? Your assessment,
[00:06:50] Thanasis, your assessment, Thanasis, in view of the
[00:06:54] Thessaloniki International Fair, is that the
[00:06:58] government
[00:07:01] by insisting programmatically, or will it be forced to enter
[00:07:05] this mudslinging in order to
[00:07:08] defend itself or retaliate, as others say?
[00:07:13] The job of the opposition is to control the
[00:07:17] government. I have no problem with
[00:07:20] scandal-mongering, nor with it, because this
[00:07:24] is the job of the opposition. It found something that it
[00:07:28] picked up. The issue is whether there is anything
[00:07:31] more beyond that and whether citizens gain anything from all this.
[00:07:35] From its side, the Mitsotakis government
[00:07:38] has been governing for 8 years.
[00:07:40] Rather, it will be built. In a short while, in spring, eight
[00:07:44] years. It is
[00:07:47] logical for there to be a government
[00:07:50] that has fatigue. Besides,
[00:07:54] it does not transmit staff. There is also wear and tear,
[00:07:57] besides that. There is wear and tear in the government.
[00:08:01] Do you see wear and tear? Wear and tear is something
[00:08:04] normal. The polls do not show
[00:08:07] us to the extent that one would expect. And since you also mentioned
[00:08:11] polls.
[00:08:15] Since you also mentioned polls, and indeed, we are all waiting for the
[00:08:19] programs at the TIF, and these also determine policy.
[00:08:22] We are also waiting for the autumn polls, which do you think will give the big
[00:08:26] picture or a smaller picture?
[00:08:30] Polls give a picture at any given moment, at the moment they are conducted. The
[00:08:34] stable point is that there is an
[00:08:38] 8-year-old government that holds at 3%. It is
[00:08:41] impressive, isn't it?
[00:08:43] The second is that there is a
[00:08:47] world that moves in the
[00:08:49] anti- Mitsotakis space, let's
[00:08:53] say, which is looking for a way to
[00:08:56] express itself. We see Mrs.
[00:08:59] Karistianou, her party
[00:09:03] not to mention making its members
[00:09:07] not what many people expected. The question is how
[00:09:10] will this world express itself? I
[00:09:13] mean, in the September polls, and there is also an
[00:09:17] opposition
[00:09:19] that is mainly expressed by Mr. Tsipras
[00:09:22] and PASOK, but which remains
[00:09:26] stable, far from
[00:09:29] the Prime Minister's firing range. That is, neither one nor the other can
[00:09:32] claim that tomorrow morning they can beat Kyriakos
[00:09:36] Mitsotakis. This is the picture.
[00:09:39] The picture, this is constantly changing the picture.
[00:09:42] Vasilis, do you share the view, which largely, if you like,
[00:09:46] also constitutes the Prime Minister's basic dogma, that is, that he will take it
[00:09:49] to the end, because the more
[00:09:52] he exploits this remaining time until the end of his
[00:09:56] term, it is a political capital that cannot be
[00:09:59] returned, days removed, and at the same time, his basic
[00:10:02] goal is to repatriate people who are in
[00:10:05] this zone that Thanasis Mavridis described a little while
[00:10:08] ago, the zone of the undecided.
[00:10:12] Of course, not all can return, but they constitute a
[00:10:16] critical electoral audience for the big goal that
[00:10:19] the ruling party has, the goal of
[00:10:22] self-sufficiency. Yes, look, if
[00:10:25] nothing very serious happens, and for me, serious means a national issue, a national
[00:10:29] matter, mainly, of course, our relationship with
[00:10:32] Turkey, we see that there is a tension on the occasion of the
[00:10:35] signatures for the spatial planning, etc., if
[00:10:38] something like this does not happen, we will certainly go to elections in the spring, probably in
[00:10:42] May, as Mr. Mitsotakis said. Obviously, it
[00:10:45] benefits Mr. Mitsotakis to have another 7-8 months
[00:10:48] of governance, because there will be announcements
[00:10:52] at the TIF. The announcements at the TIF will happen, they will be
[00:10:55] implemented mainly from the beginning of the
[00:10:59] new year, January 2027.
[00:11:02] In November, we will have the money
[00:11:05] that will be given as an emergency allowance, as essentially a part of the
[00:11:08] 13th pension for pensioners. There will be announcements for
[00:11:12] self-employed professionals, mainly, from what I understand, at the
[00:11:15] TIF. Mr. Mitsotakis will also send a political message with the economic
[00:11:19] measures he will announce, a political message to people.
[00:11:23] In
[00:11:26] 2019 and 2023, and now they are disappointed. Among these
[00:11:30] are also the self-employed who are a critical
[00:11:33] group that gave critical impetus
[00:11:37] to the successive electoral victories, and to
[00:11:40] pensioners who, at a rate of 47%, still support
[00:11:43] New Democracy. The strengthening of pensioners' incomes will be a
[00:11:47] critical point for the government because it wants pensioners
[00:11:50] with them in the new elections, but also the
[00:11:54] 670 self-employed professionals who
[00:11:57] were affected, they say, at least by the issue of
[00:12:00] presumptive taxation, and there will be
[00:12:04] measures there. So Mr. Mitsotakis's political message is: come
[00:12:08] back to me, I can, with fiscal
[00:12:11] discipline, give money
[00:12:15] where it is needed, targeted, and most importantly, he will bet on the chaos of the
[00:12:18] opposition, what Thanasis Mavridis also said, that
[00:12:22] there is no alternative. People are searching. Many people do not
[00:12:26] want Mr. Mitsotakis, which is logical after 8 years. They do not want New
[00:12:30] Democracy, but they cannot find anything else and they see chaos around
[00:12:33] them. This will be the dilemma in
[00:12:36] this chaos that you also mention, because it is a lot of
[00:12:40] political time until spring
[00:12:43] 2027. Who do you think will endure among these parties
[00:12:46] when they enter this election race that has started? Yes, yes,
[00:12:50] I will tell you this: as Thanasis also said, New Democracy is moving at a percentage of
[00:12:54] 25 to 30%, and it is admirable for an 8-year-old
[00:12:57] government. Mr. Tsipras, who will probably be
[00:13:00] the second party, has a ceiling that is currently
[00:13:04] around 16-17%. Some estimate that it can reach 20%. But
[00:13:08] I will be a little more heretical, PASOK, which
[00:13:12] has 1-2 problems, has made 1-2 mistakes that we can
[00:13:16] discuss, I think at this moment it is the only
[00:13:19] serious and organized party with
[00:13:21] programmatic
[00:13:24] with proposals. With real proposals, with
[00:13:27] contacts with all of society, with trips
[00:13:31] all over Greece.
[00:13:33] Very good work is being done even in Parliament, in my opinion, the
[00:13:37] polls should show that PASOK can also become
[00:13:40] the second party. For now, they show what the party officials themselves say,
[00:13:44] and I apologize for interrupting you, Vasilis, to move on to Thanasis Mavridis. For
[00:13:48] now, the polls for PASOK show what its own officials say, that
[00:13:51] is, the needle is stuck, and in fact,
[00:13:55] it may have unstuck, but it's unstuck downwards,
[00:13:57] Thanasis.
[00:14:00] Anyway, PASOK actually has good staff, which is why Mr. Mitsotakis hasn't left any
[00:14:04] other staff, he has taken them. Ah, this
[00:14:07] is a fact, it's a whole school.
[00:14:11] So, look, as
[00:14:14] the opposition is, the picture it shows,
[00:14:18] it's very difficult to beat the government. And when the
[00:14:21] Greek people hear proposals of the
[00:14:24] type... "special purpose government to send Mitsotakis to
[00:14:27] prison for the wiretaps," I think they start to
[00:14:30] get annoyed. One of the reasons why the
[00:14:33] opposition is stuck overall
[00:14:36] is this: that there are no real
[00:14:39] proposals. For example, during the
[00:14:42] Depon era, there was
[00:14:46] the adoption of positions on lost wagons and
[00:14:50] pilings. So this unseriousness is reflected
[00:14:54] in the polls. How can someone
[00:14:56] trust a serious
[00:15:00] person, a political party that adopts the
[00:15:03] proposal, the proposal that
[00:15:05] adopts conspiracy theories,
[00:15:09] conspiracy theories about lost wagons? Now, no one can tell
[00:15:13] me, yes, you know, but then the atmosphere was like that. That is, every time the
[00:15:17] atmosphere is like that, we will adopt
[00:15:20] scary stories. There is no seriousness.
[00:15:37] wins with such dynamics, Thanasis, do you estimate
[00:15:41] why it wins? Because there is no seriousness, it's a tragic
[00:15:44] reason, right?
[00:15:47] That is, you say, what should I vote for? Mr. said,
[00:15:51] what should I vote for? Will he vote for Mitsotakis eight years
[00:15:54] later? Yes, Mitsotakis, because the others don't cover me. It's not that the
[00:15:58] others as people don't cover me. They are perfectly fine people. It's
[00:16:02] that they have chosen an
[00:16:05] easy path. Easy for social
[00:16:08] media, but
[00:16:12] not what can tell a person
[00:16:15] that he has proposals for the future of his
[00:16:19] life. You said it, Vasilis. No,
[00:16:22] I completely agree, they don't have proposals for their lives,
[00:16:25] truly. They deal with things that, for example, let me tell you
[00:16:29] something that made a negative impression on me. A few
[00:16:32] days ago we had the anniversary for the tragedy in Mati. Hellas, Mr.
[00:16:36] is supposedly in opposition
[00:16:39] electorally. He didn't issue a single announcement, not a single
[00:16:42] member of his staff appeared to say anything about Mati. A few days later,
[00:16:45] southeastern Attica burns, southwestern Attica
[00:16:49] burns, and they issue announcements and send a team to talk
[00:16:53] about the fires. This exactly in itself makes a
[00:16:56] comparison. People tell you, but Mati, 8
[00:17:00] years ago, you were in government, you made tragic mistakes, there was no
[00:17:03] punishment, in quotes, perhaps only political. And now you are making
[00:17:06] opposition over the ashes. What are your
[00:17:10] proposals, for example? There are no proposals for this
[00:17:13] either. You mean that
[00:17:17] Mr. Tsipras's Hellas chooses the issues it will leave aside
[00:17:20] and the issues it will choose to fight
[00:17:23] for? Exactly so, it chooses
[00:17:27] issues that get clicks on social media,
[00:17:30] it doesn't choose proposals that will pass into society.
[00:17:34] We are waiting, of course, for Mr. Tsipras's economic program on the second.
[00:17:39] Mr. Tsipras can say whatever he wants, but it must also be
[00:17:43] cost-effective. That's where Mr. Tsipras and Mr.
[00:17:46] Androulakis will be judged, whether they can hit, and in my
[00:17:50] opinion, I don't think they can hit New Democracy right now. If
[00:17:54] they can at least get a slogan across to society that
[00:17:58] there is an opposition, because now it seems that there is no
[00:18:01] serious opposition. Let's take one last comment from
[00:18:04] Thanasis, and at some point let's talk about the state. Because the
[00:18:08] state is the basic oxygen for what currently constitutes the
[00:18:11] government's good card in the economy, but we haven't
[00:18:15] discussed anything about the state, and not only regarding institutional and other things that
[00:18:19] are required for its development, Thanasis.
[00:18:22] What state, what exactly do you mean by the state? The
[00:18:26] polity, the way it operates, the way it regulates the
[00:18:29] framework for business operations, everything that
[00:18:32] concerns and is intertwined with the economy
[00:18:35] and the state. If we had
[00:18:39] a state that would function in the right
[00:18:42] way,
[00:18:44] then we could withstand
[00:18:48] even a prolonged political crisis, because
[00:18:52] we are now talking about the parties, how much they have, whether self-sufficiency will emerge or not, or will we have
[00:18:55] continuous elections, as, for example, you know, Belgium, if I remember
[00:18:59] correctly, lived two years without a government, 19
[00:19:02] months, yes,
[00:19:04] we, in the idea, would be. A month
[00:19:08] without a government, I
[00:19:11] tell you honestly, it's a terrifying scenario, this shows
[00:19:15] how the state, unfortunately, the government, and I apologize for
[00:19:18] interrupting you, Thanasis, there is also the example of Bulgaria, which experienced this
[00:19:22] long period of governmental instability, and even lost
[00:19:25] funds from the recovery fund, as Nikos Minas, our editor-in-chief,
[00:19:29] very correctly reminds me. Yes, we have a continuous problem
[00:19:32] called Turkey. They will not miss this
[00:19:36] opportunity. In quotes, for them, unexplored.
[00:19:39] Unfortunately, the Mitsotakis government did not do
[00:19:42] much in eight years to change the state or, to be completely
[00:19:46] honest, I'm not even sure that we want the state to change
[00:19:50] as citizens. All this mess, because it's a huge
[00:19:54] mess, probably
[00:19:57] serves us, which is what we believe, I don't know exactly
[00:20:01] why, but I don't see anyone being concerned that all
[00:20:04] of this is
[00:20:07] counterproductive, anti- anti-
[00:20:10] therefore,
[00:20:13] nothing. I am truly truly troubled
[00:20:17] by all that I see
[00:20:20] in the public debate. The
[00:20:23] cable, the cable, the cable, one of the most important
[00:20:26] issues of the recent
[00:20:28] period,
[00:20:31] I haven't seen anyone deal with it, struggle with it. I haven't seen
[00:20:33] anyone, and there is a rearguard battle.
[00:20:37] Inform the public about what's happening with this cable.
[00:20:40] What simply, Thanasis, we never
[00:20:44] learned, for example, what happened in Kassos two years ago, right? We
[00:20:48] never learned about that either.
[00:20:51] Yes, and what will happen now if work starts in September? What will
[00:20:54] happen? Turkey raised its
[00:20:58] stature. It threatened. The
[00:21:01] situation was threatened. We were going to war. The government took a step
[00:21:05] back. Here come some people and say, why don't you shoot others? Okay, this
[00:21:09] of course contradicts what government officials publicly
[00:21:12] say, at least. The French come today
[00:21:16] and put their
[00:21:19] own dynamic into this project. What
[00:21:22] does this mean for Greece? Many things, we shouldn't discuss it now, but
[00:21:26] it worries me that we don't discuss
[00:21:30] serious matters, and this
[00:21:32] is reflected
[00:21:34] everywhere, everywhere, and it is also a result of the government's image
[00:21:38] and its position and the polls, but
[00:21:42] also of our bad luck, so to speak,
[00:21:46] things are not happening and no one is being pressured.
[00:21:50] And precisely because we are not properly informed, we leave
[00:21:53] conspiracy theories, for example, about the cable. What do they say now? Greece signed for the
[00:21:57] cable, it will go ahead, so it means it has made a secret
[00:22:00] deal with Turkey for co-exploitation of the Aegean. That is,
[00:22:04] such theories circulate because precisely we don't learn what exactly has happened.
[00:22:08] This is tragic. Stay
[00:22:10] with us for a while, because we need to open a connection that
[00:22:13] concerns everyday life, to go to an
[00:22:17] open-air farmers' market, because... that's where, if you like,
[00:22:21] a significant part of the battle that will be fought in
[00:22:25] 2027 will be decided. I don't know if you have the time to stay with us, to go
[00:22:28] and meet our colleague again, Vivi Kika, to see what
[00:22:32] she is recording on
[00:22:35] August 8 regarding the prices of fruits and
[00:22:39] vegetables. After all, inflation is
[00:22:43] a constant fuse of this political confrontation that also has the
[00:22:46] other characteristics that our two older colleagues rightly described
[00:22:50] earlier. Come on, Vivi,
[00:22:53] good morning again, guys, good morning to everyone. We are here at the
[00:22:57] market in Neo Kosmos, there are not as many people as last
[00:23:01] time, because it's quite early, it's also August 8th, as you said,
[00:23:04] most people have left on vacation. So after the beach
[00:23:08] we will want to go and eat our salad, to see where
[00:23:11] it sleeps, how much it costs, how much
[00:23:14] tomatoes cost now. Hello, good morning, where are the tomatoes from?
[00:23:17] From Nafplio, from Nafplio. And how much do they cost?
[00:23:21] Depending on the quality, the good ones sell for two,
[00:23:25] and from there down, we go to 1.5, we go to one, we go to 50. So which are the good
[00:23:29] ones? These two. Half a minute, which are the good
[00:23:32] ones? The good ones are visible, the good ones are visible. Where are
[00:23:36] the good ones from? From which place? When the customer eats and is
[00:23:40] satisfied, they are good. Do people
[00:23:43] shop? No, they don't shop. Do they shop for the good ones or the others? Depending on their
[00:23:47] wallet, depending on their wallet. If
[00:23:50] they are a gourmet and want to pay, they will eat good things. If not, what time should the
[00:23:54] gourmet come to pay? You understand,
[00:23:58] George Papaconstantinou from the studio is asking, what time should the gourmet come to
[00:24:01] pay? In the morning, in the morning. Good things
[00:24:05] always come out in the morning. Of course, most people come in the
[00:24:08] noon, you've recorded it too, we've all recorded it that
[00:24:12] they fall, when you go and get a suit and it's
[00:24:15] good, you pay for it, of course most of them
[00:24:18] come.
[00:24:21] No, customers also come who pay at noon, you can't say, for example, but all the
[00:24:25] good things come out in the morning, I can't take out, what does the
[00:24:28] world tell you, how do you see it, the world suffers, the world suffers
[00:24:32] and we as producers suffer a lot, a lot, every
[00:24:36] government that comes up wants to do its own thing and doesn't ask, for example, why the
[00:24:39] tomato costs so much, most people have abandoned tomatoes, today there
[00:24:43] is a worm called Tuta, it has destroyed
[00:24:46] crops, you can't cultivate now.
[00:24:50] only large, ultra-modern greenhouses can cultivate, nothing gets in, for a
[00:24:54] producer to make these, it takes millions,
[00:24:58] so the job goes somewhere else, you see,
[00:25:01] that's the whole point, what's the price of cucumbers today, cucumbers are
[00:25:04] 2€, all are at 2€. nice, okay,
[00:25:08] these kids, you see here the
[00:25:11] tomato cucumbers, the gentleman told us that a good
[00:25:15] thing costs money, however, there are many who pay
[00:25:18] what... they pay what they have in their pocket, that is, whatever you
[00:25:22] pay for, you'll get, that's
[00:25:25] the law, whatever you pay for, you'll get, we also have b and c and behind
[00:25:29] I see the tomato is cheaper, it's 1€, 1€, why is
[00:25:32] this one cheaper, tell us, it's b, it's b, it's b, there's
[00:25:36] c, there's the other one and beyond whatever you pay for, you'll get, you paid for a
[00:25:40] good garment, it's good, right? That's how it is, isn't it, that's exactly
[00:25:44] how it is, you see, kids, here and the traffic, okay, a little
[00:25:48] more people will come
[00:25:50] later, let's go from here to see our fruits,
[00:25:54] you see, let's go to the oranges now, I see the oranges here
[00:25:58] are 80 cents a kilo for
[00:25:59] juice, it has.
[00:26:15] kilo, 1.5€ 1.5€ for nectarines, kids, and the
[00:26:18] grapes, the grapes two, two, the
[00:26:21] grapes with 1.5€ for nectarines,
[00:26:25] 2€ for grapes, two apricots, two
[00:26:28] apricots here next to you see the
[00:26:31] melons.
[00:26:36] and next door I see with 80 cents, why are these different, why do they have a different
[00:26:40] price the cost is lower,
[00:26:44] it's another price for the plant, another price, it's more
[00:26:47] economical there, and let's go to the watermelon, a summer
[00:26:51] fruit that everyone prefers, especially now in August, the watermelon has dropped to
[00:26:55] 60 cents because I remember going to the market and in June it was
[00:26:58] higher, it was more expensive, these are the prices here, kids, for.
[00:27:02] fruits and vegetables at the market today
[00:27:06] you did a regular market inspection
[00:27:44] I thought that perhaps Mr. Kimonas Koulouris would burst from one side
[00:27:47] historically
[00:27:50] because we heard, we heard a man who
[00:27:54] simply gave lessons
[00:27:56] in economics, lessons and politics, political
[00:27:59] communication but I'm afraid that.
[00:29:32] his law.