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[00:01:24] The Falirikos is right next to us, I don't know if you know, if you've been on a tour
[00:01:27] at all, soul. but it won't say
[00:01:30] anything, we have a stadium, Giannis,
[00:01:33] the stadium is coming, it's coming, it's being prepared, let's see about the
[00:01:37] plans, the work is progressing,
[00:01:40] of course, the work is progressing rapidly for the mayor,
[00:01:43] δήμαρχος,
[00:01:46] let's listen to him, what he says every week, what Mr. Doukas says, and next
[00:01:50] year we will be ready, the team will
[00:01:52] play, when do you expect it? next
[00:01:56] season the team is expected to enter the stadium normally, in 27, yes.
[00:02:00] it's very nice, it's a very nice shape, 39
[00:02:03] seats, capacity,
[00:02:06] you will be able to see the Acropolis from the stands,
[00:02:10] so, come on, we're late, but
[00:02:12] it's coming,
[00:02:23] let's go first to Paola, who was moved while singing in Cyprus, let's
[00:02:27] listen, Zonakis.
[00:02:57] The people sang, as far as I understood. And it was
[00:03:00] quite moving and what is happening, Giannis, has not stopped since the day
[00:03:04] the tragedy happened, when Giorgos Mazonakis
[00:03:07] passed away. He has been embraced even by people who did not
[00:03:10] listen to him, who did not know him very
[00:03:13] well. I mean, honestly, I hadn't seen such widespread
[00:03:17] mourning for so long and we see that it continues
[00:03:21] constantly and constantly and constantly. Let's say that Paola will
[00:03:25] most likely replace him, as far as this is feasible, and also in The Voice, let's see.
[00:03:28] Πάολα για να δούμε.
[00:03:35] of the 2026 volcanic
[00:03:39] eruption, we will see later in photographs that there was an eruption
[00:03:43] with drones. Here we see in the
[00:03:47] sky they illuminated Santorini at night. Very beautiful
[00:03:51] shots and a lot of people heard from below,
[00:03:53] you continue. People are there and the weather
[00:03:56] is good. They are enjoying it from below.
[00:04:02] Nice spectacular show, perfect, my Giannis, thank you very
[00:04:06] much, good morning, I'm going to the table, good morning
[00:04:10] Giannis Tsaprounis, how are you, it's been a while since we've seen you, well,
[00:04:13] editor-in-chief of the Free Press, ladies and gentlemen, the new season,
[00:04:17] good, good season, the season starts dynamically, with a lot, a lot
[00:04:20] of issues, so, chaos, well, not that the summer, was quiet,
[00:04:23] as you say, here in Greece, well, in the
[00:04:26] world, don't worry, it's chaos and it doesn't stop, now.
[00:04:40] now and here in Greece things are very bad, prices are very high
[00:04:44] and what else is coming, this is the
[00:04:47] biggest problem, that no one knows what's coming, the uncertainty
[00:04:51] and how long it will last, right, right, you're absolutely right. So,
[00:04:55] besides Giannis, we also have Mr. Bourlos, the labor lawyer, with us.
[00:04:58] Good morning, good morning. And to you, be well, thank you very much.
[00:05:02] Mara Imetheniti, tax expert, good morning, Mara, good morning, how
[00:05:06] are you? Thank you for the invitation, and I thank you. And in the newsroom,
[00:05:09] we also have Mr.
[00:05:13] Then, the president of the Panhellenic E-real estate network,
[00:05:17] and we also have Mr. Stamsis. We saw Mr. Stamsis first. How
[00:05:20] are you, Mr. Stamsis? Energy market executive. Are you
[00:05:23] well? Be well. Thank you very much. In a
[00:05:26] little while we will also see Themis Bakas and we will have a connection with Mr. Kainanidis,
[00:05:30] who is the president of the Federation of Truck Drivers, because all these energy-related
[00:05:33] issues have now embraced, ladies and gentlemen, all sectors and all
[00:05:37] industries. And Grigoris Tziovaras is here, our colleague, the journalist.
[00:05:41] Grigoris, where are you?
[00:05:52] a question for Mr. Bourlos, because viewers often send it to me these days. Do we have
[00:05:56] any new information about the retroactive payments?
[00:06:00] You mean those that were won.
[00:06:03] We are constantly receiving messages, please, say something, what will happen? Will we
[00:06:06] get them? When will we get them? Look, we are only discussing the
[00:06:09] cases of those who had filed lawsuits. At the end of July
[00:06:13] 2020, these lawsuits are gradually being heard.
[00:06:17] Gradually, and after a decision is issued and no
[00:06:21] appeal is filed, as happens in the majority of cases,
[00:06:25] they are forwarded to the competent services of EFKA, where
[00:06:28] the decisions will gradually be executed. What does this mean
[00:06:31] chronologically? Chronologically, it means that there is still a
[00:06:35] horizon, they still need to be a little
[00:06:37] patient. those who have appealed, after
[00:06:41] the cases are heard and after
[00:06:43] the decisions issued to the competent EFKA services,
[00:06:46] will be paid at some point. So, they still have a long way to go, people need
[00:06:50] to be patient, even though they have been vindicated. You saw, you've been
[00:06:53] asking us for so many days, this is the answer, Mr. Bourlos told you clearly.
[00:06:57] Let's look at today's headlines with
[00:07:00] Giannis Tsaprounis and Grigoris Tsiovaras and Hiroti and all our
[00:07:04] guests, of course. We will see, as the news is reflected, and
[00:07:08] make the relevant comments. First of all,
[00:07:10] Kathimerini.
[00:07:13] this is what we were saying earlier, ladies and gentlemen, and how very worrying what
[00:07:16] was happening in Kolonaki is, and the biggest concern is if there are other
[00:07:20] such clinics and how many people have fallen victim
[00:07:24] to the dangerous bazaar of longevity
[00:07:27] and we continue with other news, preparing for half
[00:07:31] a minute for the cable regarding Kasos, this is how Turkey makes
[00:07:35] politics with the research vessels, let's go here
[00:07:38] too, how high will energy prices go, come on, that's
[00:07:41] the big the front page, the black
[00:07:45] network and Elon Musk. Some of the topics of
[00:07:48] Kathimerini. We move on with the free press.
[00:07:52] Upset in hirings. It's an exclusive of the
[00:07:55] newspaper, a window for permanent contracts for temporary staff.
[00:07:58] What could this be? It's an important, it's an important opinion, it's
[00:08:02] an important opinion
[00:08:05] of theirs, which concerns a presidential decree of the Ministry of
[00:08:08] Interior, for contract employees who were
[00:08:11] in severfonipiakou sta.
[00:08:14] This, in essence, this
[00:08:16] opinion
[00:08:18] gives double points to these
[00:08:22] categories, but not generally to contract workers.
[00:08:25] This opens the window so that it can be given to a
[00:08:29] category of contract workers that calculates around
[00:08:31] 25-26 contract workers in various public
[00:08:35] sector bodies. This, then, opens the window so that in
[00:08:38] competitions they will have more points and will be able.
[00:08:51] let's go down, the toxicology reports are key and the
[00:08:53] client list in relation to what happened at the
[00:08:57] clinic where Georgos Mazonakis lost his life. Let's go here to another
[00:09:01] exclusive. Venezuela supported Tsipras in every way it
[00:09:04] could. New revelations, if you allow
[00:09:07] me,
[00:09:09] then, it concerns the journalistic
[00:09:13] investigation of Iasonas Pipinis, which has been going on for many years for Venezuela,
[00:09:17] of course, and here he presents, there is a
[00:09:20] video, in which a former official of the
[00:09:24] Caracas regime
[00:09:27] recounts what happened in June 2012,
[00:09:30] where there was a meeting
[00:09:34] of two Venezuelan officials with Mr. Tsipras without anything being announced.
[00:09:38] So, it describes that contact in 2012, and I think that
[00:09:42] we would expect some answers from Mr. Tsipras, even 14 years later,
[00:09:45] about what exactly had happened. Real news, ladies and gentlemen, we are locking down the
[00:09:49] islands with new Patriots. The armed forces plan
[00:09:53] to upgrade six air defense batteries, strengthening the
[00:09:56] deterrent power in the
[00:10:00] Aegean. We are proceeding with the entire plan for heating oil, a very
[00:10:04] important piece of news. We also have information from Iroti, which we will tell you about shortly, regarding what
[00:10:08] is expected. Uncontrolled paramedical care in Greece, and not
[00:10:11] medical care. And one more piece of news here above, Mitsotakis is targeting the
[00:10:15] center. I think this is well known, because power cannot be won
[00:10:19] without the center, and all parties
[00:10:23] take from the center, either from one side or the other, and that's usually where
[00:10:26] they aim. Let's go to Vima. This
[00:10:29] I saw when we received the digital update for the front pages, very
[00:10:33] important news. The Prime Minister's phone is not classified,
[00:10:37] a security gap in the personal data of officials and citizens. And it says here
[00:10:40] that there are platforms that sell phone
[00:10:44] numbers and email addresses of the Prime Minister, ministers and
[00:10:47] military personnel. Now, with all due respect, how can
[00:10:50] this be happening, Grigoris Tzovaras? Where did the platforms get the
[00:10:54] data, where did they get it?
[00:11:03] mechanisms and here they don't exist, they
[00:11:07] don't work, or when they do exist, it's the same
[00:11:10] pattern more or less, much more much more serious, not, I would say
[00:11:14] equally serious as what we saw with the checks in the
[00:11:17] case of the paramedical services that were operating in
[00:11:21] Kolonaki and the homeless man lost his life.
[00:11:26] I think it's such, such a pattern, yes, okay,
[00:11:30] in any case, it's desperate that all personal
[00:11:33] data has been leaked, circulating on the internet, and in the age of
[00:11:36] technology and AI, where all this is detected, that no one can stop it
[00:11:40] and we consider it normal, I can't understand it. Let's go to the first
[00:11:43] topic, the difficult moons of winter, because now
[00:11:47] Erdogan is disturbing the calm waters. You saw earlier the statements of Fidan that we were
[00:11:51] telling you about, the energy price crisis, Mitsotakis' support measures.
[00:11:55] And the bargaining in the Eurogroup to get money from the primary
[00:11:58] surplus, Achilles' shield and the cable, the next
[00:12:01] stress tests with the Turks. We move on here, the
[00:12:04] next queens of Europe, what is this here, ah, four
[00:12:08] queens, the next of Europe and the children of
[00:12:11] Pavlos, Margarita, today is a political funeral, the political
[00:12:15] funeral is at 10 in the, at 11, finally at 11 at the
[00:12:18] first cemetery and other topics, here the joy of
[00:12:22] Kompoyiannis, note, 20 to 30%
[00:12:25] of patients are looking for alternative therapies, I think these flared up after
[00:12:29] the coronavirus. Yes. The dark market of eternal
[00:12:32] youth and Mazonakis, he didn't need
[00:12:36] to undergo plasmapheresis in other
[00:12:38] medical procedures, they have risks. Let them
[00:12:42] be, the afternoon Mitsotakis returns for the special consumption
[00:12:45] tax and AI, finally how much does
[00:12:49] artificial intelligence threaten us. And the actor here, Tasos
[00:12:52] Iordanidis, who said that theater. keeps us away from screens.
[00:12:56] I thought it was the other news. I read yesterday that his mother had taken him to a clinic at some point for some
[00:13:00] problems he had and they paid 500€ to
[00:13:03] see anyway, many things will come out now for an
[00:13:06] autoimmune Sunday democracy. The wife of Stornara in the
[00:13:10] same club with Gaka were preparing
[00:13:13] a regulation that would baptize paramedical clinics
[00:13:16] as clinics. We are moving forward with the Sunday debate. The
[00:13:20] systemic banks in the hands of Gekter.
[00:13:24] The dawn of Sunday. The new
[00:13:27] EFKA and the solution to housing. 100,000 homes in 10 years
[00:13:30] and 190,000 homes in 15 years. EFKA will
[00:13:34] regain the property it lost with the
[00:13:36] PSI. We close with the Hearth, ladies and
[00:13:40] gentlemen, a lifeline for Kasidiaris, an investment
[00:13:43] in apostasy, the main title of the Hearth. That's it for the
[00:13:47] headlines, I'm coming to you first, sorry
[00:13:50] Grigoris, with the help
[00:13:53] of Giannis. here from Tsaprounis, let's see what we have. First of all,
[00:13:57] yesterday we had this statement from Haris, what's his
[00:14:00] name, Mr. Beleris, who I truly didn't understand
[00:14:04] what he meant, he was forced to hastily retract it, the poet, to say that
[00:14:07] Kasidiaris served his entire
[00:14:11] sentence, what do we do, make him a tough guy, that he served his sentence, that he was
[00:14:14] convicted, I don't know, and he was forced to retract it.
[00:14:16] Perhaps he felt a
[00:14:20] kinship because he had also been imprisoned, but this is not
[00:14:23] equivalent and cannot
[00:14:26] justify a person who
[00:14:30] himself had been imprisoned for other issues and Kasidiaris had been imprisoned for
[00:14:33] very different issues and and was accused,
[00:14:37] rather, convicted by the Greek justice system as
[00:14:40] a leader, as a leading member of a criminal organization, and
[00:14:44] indeed, one that had committed even murders. Now,
[00:14:48] I think that Mr. Beleris needs to be a little more careful next
[00:14:51] time he refers to such issues. And
[00:14:55] you know what's happening now, Giannis, we say that we have
[00:14:59] 6-7 months until the elections, but no one knows about the imponderable factors and the
[00:15:02] mistakes, one statement, one wrong turn, one
[00:15:06] misstep, I will absolutely agree, until May
[00:15:09] approximately when the elections will take place, it may seem that the time is very short,
[00:15:13] politically however it is long, it is very dense,
[00:15:16] we see in all
[00:15:19] issues, how the open issues are, with the top one of course
[00:15:22] being affordability, let's start from there. Okay, no one
[00:15:26] knows how this will evolve and this obviously
[00:15:29] affects more, as is logical, the government, but
[00:15:33] it also affects the opposition parties, especially PASOK and Greece.
[00:15:36] how they will behave, what
[00:15:39] proposals they will put forward, they will say, they will say in the
[00:15:42] public discourse, because it's not
[00:15:46] just, you know what, let
[00:15:49] me put it another way, we see what's happening all over Europe, they've risen up from
[00:15:52] Portugal to Germany,
[00:15:56] to France, I think, to say something that existed
[00:15:59] for years here, the opposition's slogan, Mitsotakis' austerity, because that was the
[00:16:02] slogan, well, I think
[00:16:06] now it can't, yes. It doesn't sell as
[00:16:09] a slogan, but if you allow me, I believe that this energy armageddon
[00:16:13] that is coming affects everyone and the programs of all, that is, what we heard
[00:16:16] from Kyriakos Mitsotakis, from Mr. Tsipras, from Mr. Androulakis, is
[00:16:20] baseless, because if citizens need support again, because Europe
[00:16:24] will support indifferently, which is a very likely scenario, then the money from the state
[00:16:27] budget will have to be given elsewhere and not for all these
[00:16:31] measures we heard about, a 13th month said Mr.
[00:16:34] Androulakis, emergency benefits said Mr.
[00:16:47] that for the first time the Prime Minister is ready to break the
[00:16:51] dogma that the specialist does not come down, exactly,
[00:16:54] and that is what he was saying, that up until now it was a dogma and he said that it was
[00:16:58] populism, now it is not populism, this Cyprus,
[00:17:02] he backed down and fuel is much cheaper,
[00:17:05] so Giannis is. it's an answer to what you said, if
[00:17:09] Mitsotakis' austerity plays a role in what we're experiencing,
[00:17:13] it does, because Mitsotakis' austerity is a specific, it's specific choices that
[00:17:16] are made, because up until now, for example, they tell us that VAT is not
[00:17:20] lowered because it won't be transferred to
[00:17:23] consumption, consumed, Grigoris, let me say something, it could have
[00:17:27] been done, for example, in the summer, 10 cents, because it still applies
[00:17:31] now, let's not forget, if I'm not mistaken, 10 cents on gasoline and 15 on
[00:17:34] diesel. It could have been done with a
[00:17:38] reduction in the special consumption tax, it was done in a different
[00:17:41] way. I think what matters to us,
[00:17:45] all citizens, consumers, is how
[00:17:49] the price of gasoline will fall.
[00:17:52] If this, of course, if this happens from the refineries, the government, from
[00:17:55] EFKA, I don't think it concerns us when we pay
[00:17:58] 220, yes, it's not an ideological issue, that's the
[00:18:02] point, yes, anyway, if with a special consumption
[00:18:05] tax as long as it passed from Europe. And at the
[00:18:08] same time, we see that the Prime Minister is reinstating the profit margin cap, so some won't
[00:18:12] have the margin to increase their profit or pocket this benefit from the reduction in the
[00:18:16] special consumption tax, so it will eventually pass on to the
[00:18:19] consumer and they will benefit from it, so all that you said before, Grigoris,
[00:18:23] collapses, and the narrative that it doesn't pass on eventually, there's no way the benefit can pass on to the
[00:18:26] consumer from the reduction in taxes, let me ask one
[00:18:29] last thing, because we also saw the
[00:18:32] government after the TIF, which is more or less
[00:18:35] a stagnant situation.
[00:18:40] The big picture is not that the familiar balances were not
[00:18:43] overturned. One would say that the needle is
[00:18:46] stuck as it was even before we left for
[00:18:50] holidays, perhaps even a little earlier.
[00:18:53] Do you see any significant change in the near future for some
[00:18:56] reason?
[00:18:58] The important factor is what Giannis said and what we see
[00:19:02] reflected in today's headlines: the factor of
[00:19:05] high prices and the...
[00:19:10] If confirmed, we may see rearrangements. If
[00:19:14] we proceed with a normal situation and
[00:19:18] without dogmas, as I said before, regarding the reduction of the
[00:19:21] special consumption tax, regardless of whether Europe will give the escape
[00:19:25] clause, because there are large
[00:19:28] margins domestically, I think that things will not change
[00:19:31] significantly, the government's lead will not change
[00:19:34] significantly. It's been like this for
[00:19:38] a very long time, of course the point is that
[00:19:41] the larger the difference it has from the other parties, from the
[00:19:45] second or even the third, the greater its distance from absolute majority,
[00:19:49] because we see that it struggles to exceed 30%, so
[00:19:52] I said that the opinion poll
[00:19:56] needle is stuck for all three
[00:19:59] ruling parties, let's say, if we consider that it's
[00:20:03] Greece, PASOK and of course New
[00:20:06] Democracy. We will have a lot to say, I wish you a good
[00:20:09] continuation of the show, let's go, yes, let's go a bit to the useful information, let's start with
[00:20:13] Mara to see the student housing allowance, you also asked us
[00:20:16] about it, to proceed to energy matters later, and for
[00:20:20] Themis Bakas to come in, I see him here, good morning Themis, so Mara,
[00:20:23] the payment is starting, we have many messages from yesterday from beneficiaries
[00:20:27] wondering what's happening. Let's see all the details. Right, let's say that the
[00:20:30] process that is currently running is a second chance, in essence, for people who
[00:20:34] forgot to submit their application by July 31st. They have the opportunity
[00:20:38] until Tuesday, September 22nd, to submit their application
[00:20:41] electronically using TaxisNet codes on the website
[00:20:45] we mentioned, stegastic.minedu.gov.gr.
[00:20:49] It is very important to submit their application now, because they will not
[00:20:52] be given another opportunity to receive this money. What do students claim
[00:20:56] through this process? From
[00:20:59] €1,500 up to €2,500.
[00:21:02] €1,500 is the basic allowance, reaching €2,000 for
[00:21:06] students who are outside of Thessaloniki and
[00:21:09] Attica. €2,000 is the allowance for cohabitation, while it reaches a
[00:21:13] maximum of €2,500 for the case of cohabitation
[00:21:16] outside of Attica and Thessaloniki. Who are these
[00:21:20] who can claim the specific allowance? Undergraduate
[00:21:23] students, of course, the student must be away from their main residence,
[00:21:27] they must definitely have accommodation in rented housing, or let's mention
[00:21:30] a small exception here, in hotels from which they must
[00:21:34] have obtained the relevant receipts and they must also have a certificate from the
[00:21:38] hotelier that they have stayed there for at least 6
[00:21:41] months, for at least 6 months, and yet I had
[00:21:44] a case in the office and from Rhodes there was a very, very severe problem for students
[00:21:48] to stay there.
[00:21:57] so the system recognizes it and pays
[00:22:00] the amount again? It doesn't recognize it, but they can submit their
[00:22:03] application and submit the supporting documents at a later time, they just note that they have stayed
[00:22:07] in a hotel and get a certificate from the hotelier that
[00:22:10] they actually stayed there for the period required for
[00:22:13] them and are paid with a time delay if it's towards,
[00:22:17] yes, unfortunately there is a delay in payments. Does the student
[00:22:20] or the parent make it? The parent makes it, the student only in the case
[00:22:24] that they are orphans, in the case that their parents are residents abroad, or in the
[00:22:28] case that they have turned 25 years old, or of course if
[00:22:31] they have their own personal income and cannot be considered a dependent
[00:22:35] member themselves and therefore must submit their own tax return
[00:22:39] from 17 to 22 applications for those who
[00:22:42] did not submit by the end of July. And when is payment
[00:22:45] expected? Payment is expected depending on when the
[00:22:48] institution processes the application. The institution where
[00:22:52] these specific people are studying. So, payments start from
[00:22:56] September and go until December, my Mara, I will thank you. Let's arrange
[00:22:59] the seating here for Mr. to come in. Thank you very
[00:23:02] much. Let's go to Mr. Stamsis, to see what's
[00:23:06] happening with energy. I want to revisit this headline from Economic
[00:23:09] Kathimerini, "Expensive energy until spring," markets
[00:23:12] see. Mr. Stamsis, what do you say about that? Is
[00:23:16] that true? Because the big problem here is not the price of
[00:23:20] Brent. We don't buy crude oil at gas stations,
[00:23:23] we buy gasoline and diesel. The refinery
[00:23:27] market in recent months
[00:23:30] has taken a quite different course from the
[00:23:34] crude oil market. There is a problem with refineries after the war
[00:23:38] in Iran. Many refineries in the Arabian peninsula were taken out of
[00:23:42] operation. Ukraine has bombarded many refineries in
[00:23:45] Russia. This means that the global refinery capacity is
[00:23:49] reduced now. That's why we see diesel prices remaining
[00:23:52] very high even when Brent falls. Today, as we speak,
[00:23:56] Brent is about 75% more expensive
[00:24:00] than it was before the war began. Diesel is 150%
[00:24:04] more expensive than before the war began. These outrageous
[00:24:07] percentages of increase you describe, do they continue?
[00:24:10] That is, will we continue like this in the coming period? The best
[00:24:14] for us is that we see diesel
[00:24:17] having reached a ceiling at this
[00:24:20] confirmed and we won't see it
[00:24:23] price and not going up even exceeding it. We hope that this will be
[00:24:29] further, but
[00:24:33] about Brent going up to 130 dollars a barrel, so it's not
[00:24:37] something we rule out. If it goes there, we understand that there will be no
[00:24:40] upper limit on prices now. It's not 220, for example, which is what we see
[00:24:44] diesel at, the maximum price it can reach. We could even go to 3 euros if other issues are not resolved.
[00:24:48] measures so yes yes.
[00:25:07] research that Ro has done, we have come across a gas station in Athens
[00:25:11] that has the most expensive price in the entire
[00:25:14] basin. This is outrageous what you're about to see, and Lefteris Theodorakopoulos is
[00:25:18] there to tell us what.
[00:25:23] Good morning again from me, from the center of Athens. The price
[00:25:26] that causes not headaches but despair to drivers,
[00:25:30] the ones we found, is almost, not almost, for one
[00:25:34] minute difference at 2.5€. Nikos will give it to you right now.
[00:25:38] Opasioglou, right behind me is the
[00:25:42] 2.50
[00:25:45] unleaded is the most expensive gas station we found in Athens. It exceeds in
[00:25:49] price. and gas stations in the Cyclades of the Dodecanese, where
[00:25:53] it is
[00:25:56] special. Guys, it's almost
[00:25:58] 3€. It's almost 3€. Look. Here
[00:26:02] 2.49, nobody puts it in. This is not a flask from the future, what we're seeing, you don't
[00:26:06] have it, it's a reality that we're seeing today, even in one gas station, we're not saying that this is the
[00:26:10] norm, the prices, the average nationwide price is much lower, it's at
[00:26:14] 2.20, I really don't know, but if you want
[00:26:17] me to, I'll get into
[00:26:20] this specific report that the price of unleaded
[00:26:24] before the war, according to the research we did, was at
[00:26:27] 1.75€, while in July you could find it
[00:26:31] above 1.90€. That means
[00:26:35] last year we were paying
[00:26:37] almost 1€ less, 80 cents less a few
[00:26:41] months ago, and all this was going up and up and up. At some point towards
[00:26:45] the summer it went down and then
[00:26:48] it started going up again. The point is
[00:26:51] something else now. If the profit margin cap is reintroduced, will this gentleman
[00:26:55] be able to sell gasoline at 2.50 or will he have to
[00:26:59] necessarily lower the price and his profit margin? That's the question.
[00:27:03] Does people go there and get fuel now unless
[00:27:07] there is no other gas station and there is no competition? The
[00:27:10] only one, my friend, and you have nowhere else to go. Yes,
[00:27:14] it would be 2.60 because it's subsidized, let's say that too. 10 cents, the l, 2.60.
[00:27:17] We used to have 2€ in our minds psychologically and now we are discussing
[00:27:21] 2.5 psychologically again
[00:27:30] to complete this first part of the
[00:27:33] conversation. This particular gas station is an exception,
[00:27:37] obviously, but generally there is a very high
[00:27:40] price.
[00:27:44] τι να περιμένουμε για το πετρέλειο θέρμανσης, πού να περιμένουμε να να
[00:27:47] το βρούμε όταν ανοίξει στις 15 οκτωβρίου η διάθεση, για τα καύσιμα
[00:27:51] επαναλαμβάνω, για το δίεςλ και τη βενζίνη, οι
[00:27:55] προοπτικές, τουλάχιστον αυτό που μπορούμε να δούμε για τον επόμενο μήνα είναι ότι
[00:27:59] δεν θα πάνε πολύ παραπάνω, αν θα πάνε πολύ παραπάνω. γιατί
[00:28:03] δεν βλέπουμε οι διεθνείς χρηματιστηριακές τιμές του diezλ και της
[00:28:06] βενζίνης να ξεφεύγουνε πολύ περισσότερο ιδίως το diezλ από ότι είναι
[00:28:09] τώρα το πετρέλαιο θέρμανσης είναι μία άλλη ιστορία
[00:28:13] διότι σε περίπου 20 μέρες ξεκινάει η διάθεσή
[00:28:16] του ε όπως είναι σήμερα η τιμή του diezλ στο
[00:28:19] 220 και λαμβάνοντας υπόψη ότι έχει και 15 λεπτά επιδότηση
[00:28:23] μέσα η στατιστική ανάλυση δείχνει ότι το πετρέλαιο θέρμησης από το diezλ απέχει
[00:28:26] περίπου 40 λεπτά άρα αν ξεκινούσε σήμερα το πετρέλειο θέρμες θα ήτανε
[00:28:30] Do you understand that 1995 is an unrealistically
[00:28:34] high price? Here, reducing the special consumption tax
[00:28:37] alone is not enough, because from the 28 cents that the special
[00:28:41] consumption tax is, it can go down to 2 cents. So, even if we reduce it by 26
[00:28:44] cents, it would still be 1.70. Other
[00:28:47] measures need to be taken for heating oil.
[00:28:50] Yes, because let's briefly remind people that when
[00:28:54] the sale closed last year, it was at 1.10 for 1000
[00:28:57] liters, we're talking about 1100€. Yes.
[00:29:00] Now, no matter how much it goes down, as you say,
[00:29:21] what we are seeing happen is that there will likely
[00:29:24] be an initiative from the government's side to reduce
[00:29:28] both the special consumption tax and the profit margin.
[00:29:35] and of gas stations for heating oil, where
[00:29:38] historically, however, their remuneration there is not very high, it is
[00:29:42] 7 to 10 cents per liter, so no matter how much you reduce it, you don't gain much from there, and
[00:29:45] obviously there will have to be a discussion with the refineries to
[00:29:49] see at what lower price it can be sold. But for the refineries to also
[00:29:53] take a bigger hit, okay, well, the
[00:29:56] 5 cents they give on gasoline and the 10 on diesel,
[00:30:00] let's see more.
[00:30:32] with this year and what are the energy measures previously, if
[00:30:35] we have from the control room and Mr. Kenanidis, he is the president of the Federation of Truck
[00:30:39] Drivers of Greece, because these fuels that
[00:30:42] we are showing have a great burden on transport, on
[00:30:45] movement, and all this then shifts to products, Mr. Kenanidis, good
[00:30:49] morning to you, good morning
[00:30:58] situation is very difficult.