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[00:05:29] to weekend live, good evening from me too.
[00:05:33] So, today we have a full show and today with current
[00:05:37] affairs and not only, we will be together until 4:30.
[00:05:40] We have done a lot.
[00:05:47] and the investigations that have started. Yesterday we hosted on this
[00:05:51] show the former commander of Elpis, Theodoros Giannaros. He made very serious
[00:05:54] accusations. He said that a few years ago he went to a resort
[00:05:58] and they performed plasmapheresis on him. We have contacted the resort and we have the
[00:06:02] answer which you will hear very soon. So, also on
[00:06:06] weekend live we have testimonies and
[00:06:08] complaints about the hypnotherapist and the doctors.
[00:06:12] they talk about their meetings and reveal what was happening in the
[00:06:16] doctor's office in Karneadou, but also in the office in
[00:06:18] Kifissia, and you will have noticed that there is chaos
[00:06:22] on the internet with illegal advertisements
[00:06:25] for therapies, illegal and misleading. So, an
[00:06:29] artificial intelligence tool has been created to scan
[00:06:32] the internet and find the offenders. There are the first
[00:06:35] findings and we will reveal them to you shortly. Let's see what it has recorded,
[00:06:39] first ways of communication. Ways of communication quickly to pass.
[00:06:49] Sky TV of our show and of course our email
[00:06:52] weekendlifepakissky.gr.
[00:06:55] are the ways you send us your messages and you help us a lot because
[00:06:59] you send us useful information for our reports. So, Panagiotis
[00:07:02] Vlahoutsakos with us. Hello my Panagiotis. and let's say hello to
[00:07:06] Giorgos Stefanou who is in Korydallos
[00:07:08] prison. Good afternoon my Giorgos. We will be with you in a very short
[00:07:12] while. My Panagiotis, almost
[00:07:14] 3:24 hours have passed, now we are going for the 4th 24 hours and
[00:07:18] we also had the first meeting of the couple in
[00:07:21] prison, exactly, exactly. Indeed, the couple of doctors
[00:07:25] are spending another 24 hours in prison, obviously the atmosphere
[00:07:28] there is tense, as we were saying yesterday, especially in the women's
[00:07:32] prison, since the singer was very connected with the inmates
[00:07:36] there, as we remind you that in February 23 he had
[00:07:39] performed a big concert there, he had talked to the inmates. He had
[00:07:42] eaten with them, he had spent time with them, etc. Therefore, he is
[00:07:46] an artist whom, in quotation marks, the inmates in Korydallos adore,
[00:07:49] so indeed they are spending
[00:07:53] another 24 hours, now they are beginning to realize the
[00:07:57] change in their lives, that their lives have changed by 180 degrees.
[00:08:00] Yes, and we also have the first meeting between
[00:08:04] them. Indeed, they submitted a request, it was accepted
[00:08:08] and today, yesterday, I'm sorry, in the morning, the first meeting between
[00:08:10] the two doctors took place. Giorgos, we are coming to you. Tell us about the first
[00:08:14] meeting that took place between them, exactly.
[00:08:18] Yesterday, the first meeting took place. From 5 in the morning, they are basically
[00:08:21] in prison. Yesterday, they talked for four hours. How did
[00:08:25] this happen? With the escort of the external guard of the
[00:08:28] women's prison behind me, the 56-year-old woman
[00:08:32] boarded a van and was transferred to the men's
[00:08:36] prison across the street. There, the correctional
[00:08:39] officers took her in and led her to a
[00:08:43] room where she had a free visit with
[00:08:46] her husband. Free visit means that there was no
[00:08:50] separating glass that we usually see
[00:08:53] during visits of inmates.
[00:08:56] Also, they were not handcuffed.
[00:08:58] They hugged when they met
[00:09:02] and spent about half an hour talking
[00:09:05] under the supervision of a correctional officer. Good,
[00:09:09] Panagiotis, something like this is expected anyway. You also
[00:09:13] see that our information states that on Saturday, especially, what Giorgos said, this open visit, is allowed,
[00:09:16] meaning without restrictions in between,
[00:09:20] if two inmates are related by blood, they can meet in
[00:09:24] person, talk, etc. Indeed, something like this happened. The meeting lasted
[00:09:28] about half an hour. This is what we learn. This shows, however,
[00:09:32] that the legal actions being taken find both of them in agreement, because you were telling
[00:09:36] us yesterday that a request for release would probably
[00:09:39] be submitted for the doctor but not for his wife.
[00:09:43] Yes, at first glance, it has been known that first the
[00:09:46] doctor will submit a request for release and then his wife will follow.
[00:09:50] Indeed, the fact that they met shows that
[00:09:52] at least they are following a common line or at least they are both informed
[00:09:56] about their next moves and yes and it doesn't seem one disagrees with the other obviously.
[00:10:00] So, Giorgos, thank you very much. Let's welcome to our
[00:10:03] company Mr. Giorgos Merkoulidis, who is the former lawyer of Giorgos
[00:10:06] Mazonakis. Until a few months before Giorgos Mazonakis passed away, he
[00:10:10] represented him. Hello Mr. Merkoulidis.
[00:10:19] start with some parts, because you also had a personal relationship, which are related to your field, the legal ones.
[00:10:23] From the very first moment, we were saying how
[00:10:25] likely it was and how important it was to upgrade the indictment, those
[00:10:29] who have some basic knowledge may understand it, but people constantly ask where
[00:10:33] we are with the Mazonakis case, so we have prepared a card to make it
[00:10:36] simple and understandable for the people, what we expect at this moment from the investigations
[00:10:40] and we will start with the histological toxicology
[00:10:44] tests which are very important and we expect them to come to light,
[00:10:47] there are the testimonies of the witnesses who will surely be called
[00:10:51] by the interrogator who handles the case. There is a financial audit for
[00:10:55] money laundering from illegal activities which will also
[00:10:59] shed light on the doctors' actions and there is also a
[00:11:02] parallel investigation for what the medical association did, which was responsible
[00:11:06] for the checks and examinations of the
[00:11:10] clinics and what was happening there. I want to ask you Mr.
[00:11:13] Merkoulidis, from what you see all these days, is an
[00:11:17] expansion of the indictment
[00:11:20] likely?
[00:11:23] I believe so. I believe that based on what
[00:11:26] has at least come to light and
[00:11:29] evaluating the material that will be submitted to the
[00:11:33] case file, I believe that yes, there is a serious possibility for what
[00:11:36] you are saying, even an upgrade of the charge
[00:11:40] to murder, yes, don't complete
[00:11:42] it yourself. Besides, the upgrade of the
[00:11:46] charge to intentional homicide
[00:11:49] with eventual malice was made
[00:11:53] based on the evidence submitted. In the next two days from
[00:11:56] the tragic death of
[00:11:59] Giorgos, for those we hear, those we hear being called
[00:12:03] at this moment to the investigative authorities to testify, obviously
[00:12:07] as witnesses for a start, but is it not unlikely that
[00:12:10] indications of greater involvement in the
[00:12:13] case will emerge? Exactly, exactly,
[00:12:17] because it is not possible for this doctor's office to operate, everyone says
[00:12:21] that there were no relevant licenses, that the
[00:12:23] machines were not declared, so all these
[00:12:27] elements will be evaluated and depending on what emerges,
[00:12:30] depending on what emerges, the prosecutor will
[00:12:33] file charges for the offenses
[00:12:36] that occurred. So, it is very likely, Mr. Merkoulidis, that we will see more people
[00:12:40] entering the scope of the investigations, the scope of the accused, as
[00:12:42] they say? Yes, for other offenses,
[00:12:46] obviously, for offenses, yes, for other
[00:12:49] offenses, yes, not for Giorgos's homicide, for other
[00:12:53] offenses, yes. You were close to Giorgos
[00:12:56] Mozonakis, tell us a little, did Giorgos ever tell you
[00:12:59] about this doctor's office, did you know about its existence,
[00:13:03] of this specific one and of the
[00:13:04] doctors?
[00:13:07] I knew absolutely nothing, even though I have said again that
[00:13:10] several times we had been very close to this area, either for breakfast, or for
[00:13:14] coffee in the shops in Kolonaki, never, we had
[00:13:17] also passed very close, Herodotos and Karneadi we had passed through this street,
[00:13:21] he never told me that he was visiting this doctor's office, I
[00:13:24] believe. that he was visiting this doctor's office recently,
[00:13:28] I don't believe that in the past he had
[00:13:31] visited it, the last one was generally cautious about such
[00:13:35] methods.
[00:13:38] No, this doctor's office, if he went, I firmly believed that
[00:13:41] it was a normal doctor's office and normal
[00:13:44] doctors. I knew that he visited, he had various
[00:13:47] examinations for his health and so on, he went to the Metropol
[00:13:51] or to other hospitals in the
[00:13:57] In any case, he was cautious about para-medical
[00:14:00] methods, not medical procedures. He believed in
[00:14:04] medical procedures, and when someone had suggested to him
[00:14:07] to visit this specific clinic
[00:14:11] and apparently it was a close person he
[00:14:14] completely trusted, he probably went unreservedly to this
[00:14:18] clinic. There are so many people, we are informed of
[00:14:22] shocking names from the business
[00:14:25] and shipping world who were visiting this
[00:14:28] clinic. There is another person in the frame, we will go to that in a very short
[00:14:32] while, but first, Mr. Merkoulidis, we would like to go and hear another
[00:14:36] complaint that weekend life brings to light from a woman who visited the
[00:14:39] specific clinic, they told her incredible things and in fact she
[00:14:43] had also gone to the second place that the couple maintained and
[00:14:46] there some seminars were held and they presented various things. Let's listen to her and
[00:14:50] we will return. Three years ago I visited
[00:14:54] at some point the... clinic. I had gone
[00:14:57] a total of four times in two years. I didn't have
[00:15:00] therapies, only what she did to
[00:15:04] everyone. A scan of the whole
[00:15:07] body, the whole organism with the soles of the feet and the
[00:15:11] palms of the hands. I had a problem in my stomach, I had
[00:15:14] stress, my stomach was red. Someone else has
[00:15:17] colitis, their intestine is red. Then she wrote
[00:15:21] nutritional supplements that were from...
[00:15:25] well-known companies in the pharmaceutical industry.
[00:15:28] The visit is €200 if you are
[00:15:31] recommended and then there is the cost of the
[00:15:33] supplements. Even me...
[00:15:37] they pressured me intensely for
[00:15:39] a directed
[00:15:42] purchase. At some point towards the end when I got
[00:15:45] annoyed, she told me that I had
[00:15:49] parasites in my blood. I didn't believe it. She told me to take
[00:15:52] a supplement, about €100
[00:15:56] and I wouldn't take it and then I returned for the
[00:16:00] last time and I told her I took it and she
[00:16:03] said that it passed. I got annoyed in the end when she told
[00:16:07] me. that I have in my blood, I think they
[00:16:10] told many people this that they had
[00:16:13] parasites, I read other testimonies about
[00:16:17] parasites and some others that they might get cancer and
[00:16:20] the last time I saw these people was because I had
[00:16:24] been invited about 1.5 years ago about
[00:16:27] maybe one at their second clinic,
[00:16:31] the more
[00:16:33] it was the husband, the spouse's epic.
[00:16:38] and they invited me to make it look like a crowd.
[00:16:41] It was a big crowd, it was like innate and there were some
[00:16:45] girls who were psychologists
[00:16:48] and booked sessions as
[00:16:51] psychologists. He had given a
[00:16:54] lecture titled "The Higher Self"
[00:16:57] and had some massages
[00:17:01] that he called relaxing and some aromatic baths in
[00:17:04] bathtubs. It was a very expensive clinic.
[00:17:07] The second clinic was ultra-luxurious
[00:17:11] and they had found ways for
[00:17:13] figs for silk ribbons.
[00:17:17] Many testimonies, however, with the doctors' tactics being roughly the same and
[00:17:21] directed purchases, many
[00:17:24] procedures outside the pharmacy and let's move on to the most
[00:17:27] crucial point, Mr. Merkoulidis, which are holistic therapies and
[00:17:31] is our connection with the other person who is in the frame as a
[00:17:35] witness because he is not accused of anything. I am referring to the
[00:17:38] hypnotherapist, because in these holistic therapies
[00:17:42] one could undertake the cleansing of the soul and another the cleansing of the
[00:17:45] body. Is there a way to find a direct
[00:17:49] connection, is there anything reprehensible for a
[00:17:52] person to refer a client of theirs to a
[00:17:55] doctor, if they don't know what is happening or if they know what
[00:17:59] is happening and it is illegal, do they bear
[00:18:01] responsibility?
[00:18:03] When you say someone refers do you mean from a friend or...
[00:18:12] he is not a doctor, he is a hypnotherapist and it seems
[00:18:15] that this hypnotherapist had communication with the doctor who
[00:18:19] performed the illegal therapy on Giorgos Mazonakis at the time he passed away.
[00:18:22] Yes, the relationship between these two, I believe that
[00:18:25] I believe that the specific clinic referred him to the
[00:18:28] hypnotherapist and not the hypnotherapist to the
[00:18:32] doctors because I believe that the clinic recommended Giorgos to this
[00:18:36] clinic.
[00:18:39] his friend, beyond that, that the
[00:18:43] clinic is connected to the hypnotherapist is a given because his friend
[00:18:46] is a friend, yes, I believe, yes, I believe
[00:18:50] so, do you consider or know a friend who
[00:18:54] had, I cannot speak
[00:18:56] further.
[00:18:59] absolute trust. So you are telling us that there was a person,
[00:19:02] a friend of the singer, who had trust in the doctor and perhaps
[00:19:06] encouraged him to pay a visit there. Yes, and
[00:19:10] he himself was a client, from what I have been informed, he was also a client of
[00:19:14] that specific clinic. Sir, I want to ask you something, you are a
[00:19:17] lawyer, you have particular legal training and you can
[00:19:21] help us. We have heard about the clinic, we hear about people
[00:19:24] around who had dealings with the clinic, meaning someone received
[00:19:28] clients, a pharmacy executed prescriptions. Is this a
[00:19:31] network, in quotation marks, as we call it now,
[00:19:35] verbally and easily, or can it be something more than what
[00:19:38] we see? No, it is, it is logical
[00:19:42] for there to be cooperation with a pharmacy when a medical
[00:19:46] center and the pharmacy distribute the
[00:19:49] preparations requested by the specific clinic or from the
[00:19:52] prescriptions that were issued. I think that there is nothing
[00:19:56] reprehensible, unless it turns out that illegal prescriptions were
[00:19:59] issued, illegal preparations and so
[00:20:02] on. I believe that it is logical
[00:20:06] for there to be cooperation between a pharmacy and a
[00:20:09] medical center. What really raises concerns
[00:20:13] and greatly surprises me is the fact that in the center of
[00:20:16] Athens, in Kolonaki, there was such a
[00:20:18] clinic for so many years that
[00:20:22] was at least performing illegal medical procedures and no one
[00:20:25] knew about it. This really
[00:20:28] worries me. The residents of Jerusalem know very well that it is not
[00:20:32] possible for the medical association, the competent authorities, the
[00:20:35] journalists, to not have noticed what was happening
[00:20:39] there? Was there never a complaint from the dozens,
[00:20:42] hundreds of businessmen and people who
[00:20:46] visited this clinic? It greatly surprises me and there, Mr.
[00:20:50] I think that the prominent clients and the famous clients, if anything,
[00:20:53] perhaps acted as a shield, not a shield against
[00:20:56] inspections, but as a shield against any negative
[00:21:00] criticism that could be directed at that specific
[00:21:02] clinic.
[00:21:04] I agree, Mr. Panopoulos, but is it possible, apart from the famous and
[00:21:08] distinguished businessmen, many people also went. I have a
[00:21:11] client who visited me after the incident and told me that
[00:21:15] he had been going for 3-4 years. Indeed, the visit was
[00:21:18] €200. He had... given €600, he had other
[00:21:21] types of therapies. He didn't do that, but in
[00:21:25] any case, he says with absolute and blind trust to the
[00:21:28] doctor, what can I tell you? Beyond that, I want to ask you something
[00:21:32] else. Since you knew Giorgos, why do you believe
[00:21:36] that Giorgos entered this
[00:21:40] process? Giorgos entered this
[00:21:43] for reasons of well-being, for reasons of improving his image
[00:21:47] of what can I tell you, and others who
[00:21:51] go, I mean I know people who have absolutely no problem and went
[00:21:54] there for reasons, I mean a person who
[00:21:58] also has a certain financial
[00:22:01] comfort.
[00:22:03] Giorgos was preparing for a concert on the 20th of the month,
[00:22:07] unfortunately he can't, so I believe, yes, and
[00:22:11] I believe today, unfortunately, and I therefore believe that he went for
[00:22:15] purely reasons, what can I tell you, from
[00:22:18] tox this.
[00:22:28] and makes you feel younger and more healthy and stronger, these are
[00:22:32] obviously the elements that made Giorgos go, I don't think he had any other
[00:22:35] problem, in fact and let's also ask something
[00:22:39] about what the doctor says, that when he went he was in a bad condition,
[00:22:42] is this aggravating? Since he was in a bad condition, why did he proceed with medical
[00:22:46] procedures?
[00:22:50] Exactly, exactly, because when, when there is,
[00:22:53] when you identify a problem, you cannot proceed with a medical
[00:22:56] procedure, which demonstrably caused Giorgos's
[00:22:59] cardiac arrest. Mr. Merkoulidis, wasn't there also a
[00:23:02] will that Giorgos
[00:23:05] Mozonakis left? No, no, no, he didn't
[00:23:08] have one. And we are asking you for the simplest reason,
[00:23:12] we are not interested in finances or anything, I just heard
[00:23:15] many lawyers advocating the view that it is good for a person to have
[00:23:18] a will, whether it is or not.
[00:23:23] I had suggested this to him after the adventure of Dromokaïtio, I had
[00:23:27] suggested to Giorgos that he should make a will, he answered
[00:23:31] that I will die at a ripe old age, why should I make a will now,
[00:23:35] I told him, what you are saying Mr. Panopoulos, that it is not a matter of age, it is
[00:23:39] a matter of organizing what you want, since you want
[00:23:42] specific people to receive your property, you have to do it and you
[00:23:46] change it every year and so today you say that.
[00:23:55] That is, every year you can change your will and
[00:23:59] dispose of your assets. The greatest
[00:24:02] legacy he left us is his songs. The rest do not
[00:24:14] hypnotherapist who has been talked about a lot and we already know that on Monday he will
[00:24:18] go before the interrogator.
[00:24:20] Let's watch a video that we have prepared with various things he was saying on the
[00:24:24] internet with his quotes, with things he
[00:24:27] himself believed regarding the catharsis, what
[00:24:31] he should do in hypnotherapy, but also for the first time you will hear a
[00:24:34] client of his. Let's see what she reveals. Is
[00:24:37] this a profession what you do? Of course.
[00:24:40] Certified, yes. So you are legal? Of course.
[00:24:44] What have you studied? I have studied psychology and sociology in
[00:24:47] America. Why do your clients usually visit you?
[00:24:51] Fears. Migraines.
[00:24:55] Bodily symptoms. Everything. When
[00:24:59] we ask our client to go to the root of
[00:25:02] their problem, they might even find themselves in another body,
[00:25:06] meaning they might be a man in this life and find themselves in a female body. What
[00:25:10] does conventional medicine think about what
[00:25:13] you do? Not great.
[00:25:15] It's an honor for me, because here are
[00:25:19] old friends. Classmates,
[00:25:22] colleagues, my clients.
[00:25:25] A mess. The shadow has intensity. When
[00:25:28] expressed, it has an energy, a vibration, a
[00:25:32] where the mynah bird and the parrot
[00:25:35] catch her and make her fly. Regression
[00:25:39] therapy is an
[00:25:41] attempt and an approach of traditional
[00:25:45] psychotherapy to go back in time, to regress, first of all. Who
[00:25:48] among you wants to go tomorrow
[00:25:52] and collect mushrooms to cook at noon?
[00:25:56] I'm going, you guys leave, you'll get a
[00:25:59] general taste of the world of mushrooms. of mushrooms
[00:26:03] and first of all, I will make you
[00:26:07] understand what mushrooms
[00:26:09] are
[00:26:11] and how rich this world is
[00:26:14] and how enchanting. I've been to Asos, I've done
[00:26:18] hypnotherapy, I had been informed about the process of
[00:26:22] hypnosis, all of these are certified, I'm from
[00:26:25] the field, I knew that these
[00:26:29] procedures help people who have phobias, who have
[00:26:32] problems that they perhaps cannot solve
[00:26:35] therapeutically, psychotherapeutically,
[00:26:38] it was a very nice process for me. A therapist I had
[00:26:41] once had recommended it, and I had heard very good
[00:26:45] things, I had seen many of his lectures.
[00:26:48] How long did the hypnosis process last? It
[00:26:52] lasts three hours, you have full consciousness, you lie back in a
[00:26:56] chair, he relaxes you with some
[00:26:59] techniques, it's not the same thing for everyone, hypnosis,
[00:27:03] some can relax more easily, others with more difficulty,
[00:27:06] I, for example, didn't relax that easily, but I entered a
[00:27:09] more relaxed state,
[00:27:13] uh, to be able to focus within
[00:27:16] myself, what is this thought that comes to me, what is this image that comes to me,
[00:27:20] there is no guidance, that is, for
[00:27:23] what one will see in hypnosis, and how much does this
[00:27:27] specific therapy cost? 150€. You can't
[00:27:30] get harmed in hypnosis, you just enter a state of relaxation,
[00:27:34] things come from the unconscious a little more
[00:27:37] easily, indeed, 150€ the cost
[00:27:41] of the session, okay, there are people who truly want to
[00:27:45] enter such a process, to explore themselves, I'll say it simply and colloquially, this
[00:27:49] is the work it produces, there is nothing illegal about it, there is
[00:27:53] nothing reprehensible, he himself has stated that he is willing to cooperate with the authorities,
[00:27:56] he'll go to the interrogator, he'll say what he knows, and we await it with great
[00:28:00] interest. So, we'll go to a topic that you'll introduce. He
[00:28:09] said that a few years ago he went to a resort and as a surprise
[00:28:13] those who had invited him suggested he do
[00:28:16] plasmapheresis, indeed he
[00:28:19] was forced to do it for very specific reasons, he spoke to
[00:28:22] those he needed to, he said, he didn't name them, this complaint didn't
[00:28:25] go anywhere and he feared for his life, let's hear
[00:28:29] what he told us, we have contacted the resort and have an answer.
[00:28:32] Along with my own person, we were invited,
[00:28:36] or rather, we were invited for a beautiful weekend at
[00:28:40] a truly wonderful place and
[00:28:44] a surprise, the surprise was
[00:28:46] plasmapheresis, I met the professor who was there, who was a
[00:28:50] truly respectable person, I searched for him
[00:28:53] on the internet, I don't remember his name, he was a foreigner, he was definitely a foreigner,
[00:28:56] yes, specifically Russian, a Russian, who also had three
[00:29:00] colleagues with him.
[00:29:02] He didn't search for it, he had his own clinic in his homeland where he did
[00:29:06] plasmapheresis for 15 years, yes, but in a
[00:29:09] clinic. The reason I did it was because
[00:29:12] I basically felt trapped, because
[00:29:15] my person did it,
[00:29:19] it was very difficult for me to say no after that, now
[00:29:23] all these people who became guinea
[00:29:26] pigs, they did it voluntarily,
[00:29:30] yes, no one pressured them to do it. I didn't pay, now what
[00:29:33] the others did, I don't know, there was no, not
[00:29:37] even a defibrillator, not even an oxygen tank,
[00:29:40] not even a plaster, there was basically nothing that could
[00:29:44] guarantee safety, if a person with your profile,
[00:29:47] leaving there, doesn't round them all up one by one to
[00:29:51] corral a person who brings medical equipment, who will
[00:29:54] do it? No matter how educated
[00:29:56] you are, no matter how many specialties
[00:30:00] related to medicine you have. No matter
[00:30:03] how rich you are, socially high or
[00:30:07] low,
[00:30:09] all of them are always one step ahead
[00:30:13] and for this reason you see
[00:30:15] that you don't hear often about such
[00:30:18] cases, even though there are hundreds or I can say
[00:30:22] thousands, I spoke then
[00:30:25] or now, no, both then and
[00:30:28] I will not tell you where, I will not.
[00:30:32] I'm telling you where you spoke, you didn't get anywhere, nothing happened,
[00:30:35] eventually
[00:30:37] I didn't want to get involved anymore, I didn't want to get
[00:30:41] involved because you simply know that
[00:30:44] the ditch is close.
[00:30:47] Giannis Rizos is with us because we contacted that
[00:30:51] specific resort, let's see what they told us, what arises
[00:30:55] initially from the conversation we had with that specific resort, obviously
[00:30:59] we are not mentioning the name.