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[00:00:00] and now they get the cheapest price, so it's a bit, up,
[00:00:03] sorry, down the price compared to last year, yes, a friend from the village was telling me
[00:00:07] that even though they had pruned the olive trees, even the
[00:00:11] branches that were left were full of fruit, meaning this year there is a lot of
[00:00:14] good, there are many producers who have kept
[00:00:18] last year's crop, believing that at some point prices will be better
[00:00:21] and they will sell it then, now let's see, ladies and
[00:00:24] gentlemen, and the payments earlier due to March
[00:00:28] 25th,
[00:00:53] that are paid in advance, as always, the
[00:00:56] be paid before the holiday of
[00:01:07] fund and the payments will be on Monday, October
[00:01:10] 26th, but the money will be available at ATMs from Friday, October
[00:01:36] and public is the next card, we see the old one, these will
[00:01:40] be paid on Thursday, October 29th and the money will be visible at
[00:01:44] ATMs already from the 27th of October in the afternoon, go from
[00:01:47] 5 pm onwards to be sure the money is deposited, don't suffer in vain.
[00:01:51] As for the payments of the OPECA benefits, these will be made
[00:01:54] on Friday, October 30th, among others we are talking about housing benefit,
[00:01:58] minimum guaranteed income. But
[00:02:02] not child benefit because it is a bimonthly installment and the next
[00:04:32] way, has more than 180,000 Greeks,
[00:04:35] people who declare Greek origin, so
[00:04:38] you're talking about a Greek city. When we first met Papastrigiadis,
[00:04:42] Vasilis, it was the memoranda, amazing. I was
[00:04:45] there, it hadn't even happened yet, imagine, we started him coming.
[00:04:49] You might remember, Giannis, that you used to come to us very often. We made
[00:04:53] connections about the unemployment rate in Melbourne, and
[00:04:57] then many young Greeks were leaving, it was on the phone. Because he was president of the diaspora and
[00:05:01] they were asking for jobs, and Greeks were leaving during the memoranda, so they were going
[00:05:04] to Australia, where Australia had 3-4% unemployment and we here
[00:05:08] were at the top, thankfully it has
[00:11:27] Sky 10.3.5.5,
[00:14:49] October 11th. The first ten days of October are over with pretty good
[00:14:52] temperatures. The weather has deteriorated a bit now. There are rains,
[00:14:56] mainly in the west, it has started from Corfu, it's going down to
[00:14:59] Kefalonia and probably in the afternoon we'll have some light rains here in Athens, dear
[00:15:03] Nikos. It's needed, we need water, the earth needs to be watered.
[00:15:07] You want changes in the seasons, because anything
[00:15:10] else is boring and alarming. As long as the temperature
[00:15:13] is good, we don't need much
[00:15:39] Mariana Pyrioti. We've lost touch, it's been a while since we talked. Good morning, Mariana, how
[00:15:43] are you? Good morning, good morning to everyone in the group. I'm doing
[00:15:47] a precautionary, precautionary quarantine, because
[00:15:50] the viruses have spread after all, so
[00:15:52] yes, COVID is also spreading now,
[00:15:56] right. COVID, as Mazanis told us,
[00:15:59] the flu, this year the flu starts earlier and he told us that the vaccine
[00:16:03] has been opened, all groups, young and old.
[00:16:20] Trump decision to reconcile with Putin and to have
[00:16:24] Russian oil barrels fall in America to lower the
[00:16:27] price. We'll see if it happens, if it will affect us too, it will affect Europe,
[00:16:31] will we see better prices? What do you say?
[00:16:34] Look, the laws of the market say so. It will drop
[00:16:38] 4 million 700,000
[00:16:41] million
[00:16:43] tons into the market in an agreement between Trump and
[00:16:47] Putin. When a product enters the market,
[00:16:51] the laws say that the price will drop. Some
[00:16:54] more informed than us came out and said
[00:16:58] that prices will not drop. We are waiting for this and we will
[00:17:01] see it. It is already starting, he says, with 500,000
[00:17:05] tons immediately for. This concerns Europe
[00:17:09] and cannot but concern Europe, this fuel cannot but come to Europe,
[00:17:12] but since it is coming to the market, it
[00:17:16] will not be missing from anywhere else, there will be a surplus in Europe,
[00:17:20] most likely prices will fall, this is what
[00:17:23] we are waiting for and we will see it, because as I told you, let's see it, because like you, I also read
[00:17:27] yesterday some analysts who say that they don't expect it, they don't see it,
[00:17:31] these are very small quantities, I was watching a Bloomberg analyst say that these
[00:17:35] quantities correspond to two of the
[00:17:38] American consumption, so it's something very
[00:17:40] small. No, the 4 million
[00:17:44] 700,000 tons, the first
[00:17:47] dose of 500,000 tons,
[00:17:51] this is for American consumption, but in any
[00:17:54] case, we'll see, will
[00:17:57] Zelensky go and hit another Russian
[00:17:59] refinery, and eventually, will the
[00:18:03] oil supply decrease internationally? We don't
[00:18:05] know.
[00:18:07] Europe, with its political decisions and the decisions it has made, says
[00:18:11] that it will not take this oil, so
[00:18:14] we are waiting for the reaction of the Commission and
[00:18:17] London. They don't agree, however, it's time
[00:18:20] for absolute absurdities to
[00:18:23] end. Yes, let's see, because here, yes, no
[00:18:27] Greek can accept revisionist logics and
[00:18:31] Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
[00:18:33] But on the other hand, because it's a game of the big players,
[00:18:38] for a long time, it's good for Europe to re-evaluate its stance, and we see
[00:18:42] European societies, and the far-right cannot, what do
[00:18:45] you mean, reconcile with Putin? This means a dialogue with
[00:18:49] Russia must begin. They say here to increase sanctions against
[00:18:51] individuals.
[00:18:57] The US says something else, so the balance has been
[00:18:59] disrupted.
[00:19:01] If you'll allow me, Mrs. Mavragani, which Europe said reduce
[00:19:05] consumption? The solution.
[00:19:07] prices,
[00:19:15] to do something else, to produce
[00:19:18] energy in some other way, to find some
[00:19:21] other energy sources, because
[00:19:24] essentially, when one,
[00:19:26] when it's
[00:19:29] consumption,
[00:19:32] now, but when, when as Europe you don't have
[00:19:36] the fossil fuels and you depend on someone else,
[00:19:40] it has transactional and renewable energy sources, but
[00:19:43] there, in any case, the American LNG,
[00:19:47] it's three times more expensive and four times, at this moment it's not enough, we see it with
[00:19:50] the vertical corridor, 1/3 is filled, and we have what
[00:19:53] we have, and I also see politicians who are returning to lignite and saying that for a period it
[00:19:57] could be the solution, in any case, Mr. Kiousis, let's see what happens from
[00:20:01] Wednesday, we expect the government's announcements about the subsidy for
[00:20:04] oil, how much more expensive is it expected to be compared
[00:20:08] to last year? What do you estimate, what do you see? Look, a
[00:20:12] week ago, because the price is very volatile
[00:20:16] and changes daily, a week ago
[00:20:19] we were saying that if heating oil sales started then without
[00:20:23] any subsidy, it would start at 2€.
[00:20:26] Today as we speak, again with the same scenario, if
[00:20:30] it started today without any subsidy, it would start at
[00:20:33] 1.90. The Prime Minister committed two
[00:20:37] weeks ago and said that heating oil would start below
[00:20:40] 1.75. At that time, the starting price was
[00:20:43] two. So, if we do this
[00:20:47] addition and subtraction at the same time, with
[00:20:51] today's data, we are talking about 1.65. Since the
[00:20:55] starting price has dropped by 10 cents, the Prime Minister
[00:20:58] spoke below 1.75. Let's make a hypothetical
[00:21:02] scenario of 1.65.
[00:21:04] For this to happen, wasn't it around there when
[00:21:08] it closed last year? It closed at 1.75,
[00:21:11] it started at 1.10, it started at 1.10 and closed
[00:21:14] at 1.75. Of course, let's remember
[00:21:17] that in March and April 30, the sale of
[00:21:21] heating oil stops. No one bought any, literally
[00:21:24] no one. No customer approached
[00:21:28] you, literally all over Greece. So all the tanks are
[00:21:31] empty, all of them all over Greece, from Evros to
[00:21:35] Gavdos, they are empty. This is the only sure thing,
[00:21:38] because we had a tremendous drop in heating oil
[00:21:42] consumption in March and April, and we also had
[00:21:45] a tremendous decrease in revenue from the special
[00:21:48] consumption tax. This
[00:21:54] will again
[00:21:58] have heating oil at a very expensive starting price.
[00:22:02] When the starting price is
[00:22:05] 1.90 and
[00:22:08] whatever interventions are made, a combination of interventions and let's take a
[00:22:11] hypothetical scenario that this intervention will
[00:22:15] be the elimination of the special consumption tax
[00:22:18] along with its VAT, this is 35 cents, so
[00:22:22] 1.90 - 35 cents
[00:22:25] (1.55), and
[00:22:29] to zero it out, to zero it out. So
[00:22:31] you understand that cheap, cheap, as
[00:22:35] we consider it, 1.10 which started last year, this is a scenario
[00:22:39] that is impossible to happen, it cannot happen. And the
[00:22:42] second, because I see it, yes, yes, please, there will also be
[00:22:46] an increase in the beneficiaries of the subsidy.
[00:22:50] Depending on the geographical criteria, it's from
[00:22:53] €100 in southern Greece, let's say in
[00:22:57] Attica, a family gets €100 subsidy up to
[00:23:00] 800 in Northern Greece and in some
[00:23:04] mountainous areas and in some very rare cases it's
[00:23:07] 1,200, this, they say
[00:23:10] that this subsidy to beneficiaries will
[00:23:14] increase by 20%, the beneficiaries will not change and it will
[00:23:18] increase by 20%. That's what they say, a significant
[00:23:21] intervention, we are waiting, we will hear all this on Wednesday, because
[00:23:25] we also see it in our title, steadily above 2€ for gasoline and diesel, two
[00:23:29] and, this continues, do you not see any differentiation downwards,
[00:23:32] 2.20 gasoline steadily, this
[00:23:36] week we saw diesel drop a little
[00:23:39] and it's 2.13 average price in
[00:23:43] Greece, but the two, let me
[00:23:46] say it like this to lighten the mood a little, we have married it. This is how the
[00:23:50] situation looks,
[00:23:51] unfortunately
[00:23:55] it's also problematic the euro-dollar exchange rate
[00:23:58] because we have to take everything into account, yes
[00:24:14] article, who the government aims to bring back from the 23rd voters. The findings in two internal
[00:24:18] surveys and focus groups. The thing is that in all the
[00:24:22] surveys I see, accuracy is the first problem and I don't know, do you
[00:24:25] think the government can bring back the 23rd voters somehow?
[00:24:29] I suppose that
[00:24:32] it expects some normalization, if this
[00:24:36] normalization comes in a gradual
[00:24:40] way, of course, this doesn't happen suddenly, it can't happen overnight,
[00:24:43] until the elections, which in this case it will
[00:24:46] try to prolong as much as possible...
[00:24:50] close to summer, to put it that way, whatever leeway it has, it will
[00:24:53] exhaust it, if we are heading towards any
[00:24:56] form of normalization of accuracy, because for
[00:25:00] example, it will be resolved or we will enter
[00:25:02] a phase of normalization of the
[00:25:05] Russian-Ukrainian conflict or we will enter a phase of normalization
[00:25:09] of the problem in the Gulf, in this
[00:25:12] case, I don't know what impact this would have on the
[00:25:16] voters of New Democracy in 23, but it would have a big impact.
[00:25:20] or it would have some impact on the general atmosphere which
[00:25:23] at this moment before winter
[00:25:26] is a bleak atmosphere economically, even
[00:25:30] those who don't have at the moment
[00:25:34] any immediate or specific
[00:25:37] liquidity problem in their households,
[00:25:41] even the most unemployed, are affected, you know, it's not
[00:25:44] only the one who can't make ends meet, it's also
[00:25:48] the one who barely makes ends meet.
[00:25:50] But it's also the one who doesn't barely make ends meet, who has a relative
[00:25:53] comfort, but is held back and also
[00:25:57] develops a negative psychology, feeling
[00:26:00] that things are not going well.
[00:26:03] This is independent of his objective economic
[00:26:07] capability. What happened Spiro, the other day with the interview here on Ari
[00:26:11] Protosalte of the Prime Minister, the 25% that we heard for the first time,
[00:26:14] how do you interpret this benchmark, how do you explain it, why did he
[00:26:18] set it, what did he want to say and what messages did the Prime Minister want to send and to whom, and if
[00:26:21] it is related to all this economic
[00:26:24] pressure that is coming in winter, yes, with
[00:26:28] what Mariana was saying very correctly, "I can't make it" is the
[00:26:31] phrase. Yes, and everyone has a different level, I can't
[00:26:35] make it, but when you hear "I can't make it" from someone who has
[00:26:39] more income, it means something for that, obviously, yes, because everyone's
[00:26:42] obligations are different and the one who has more has different ones.
[00:26:46] obligations, small and medium-sized entrepreneurs, "I can't make it"
[00:26:49] is a big statement for them, and he didn't
[00:26:52] give them much at the TIF, so it was the traditional audience of New
[00:26:56] Democracy, Kyriakos didn't
[00:26:59] give that much.
[00:27:02] 25%. Acknowledgment that there is difficulty is the first time the Prime Minister recognizes
[00:27:05] that we are not galloping in
[00:27:08] beautiful meadows, that it can fall so low.
[00:27:11] I don't know, he's afraid of it, and on the other hand,
[00:27:15] it's a blackmail to his own people and a political environment
[00:27:18] of his own, telling them that they need to
[00:27:21] mobilize, and that the
[00:27:24] security of our government
[00:27:27] is at stake if we don't do something. So it has both
[00:27:31] these readings for me. For the first time, not only to the
[00:27:34] dauphins, I say also to a wider audience and
[00:27:38] to center-right voters that if
[00:27:40] stability is endangered, because the Prime Minister,
[00:27:44] his biggest weapon which continues is stability, that I am an exponent
[00:27:48] of stability, all all these things, however, fall within
[00:27:51] the obvious, right? That is, from a certain point onwards, that is
[00:27:55] for stability to exist, right? I think we
[00:27:59] all recognize that, as well as for a party, for a formation.
[00:28:02] whoever that may be, that there must be a rallying, right? I mean,
[00:28:06] it doesn't say anything new, something I hear from
[00:28:09] analysts who deal with New Democracy, that is, they work
[00:28:13] communicatively and electorally for New Democracy, what does stability mean
[00:28:17] when someone says I can't make it and I lose 5 minutes,
[00:28:21] 5 minutes, 5 minutes and I'm going down and I don't see
[00:28:24] a horizon, this stability, because it suits me, when
[00:28:28] someone collects a lot of money, but more and more of us don't collect, this
[00:28:32] stability.
[00:28:41] He wants to achieve the alertness of developments,
[00:28:45] that is, to win over the center-right voters
[00:28:48] with the idea that I can, despite the difficulties, ensure the
[00:28:52] continuation of the course. What do you say, is this 25 in
[00:28:55] some way a form of pressure on the people we were talking about earlier?
[00:28:59] Of course, but it is also an objective thing.
[00:29:10] The one which means that if a leading party does not succeed, it does
[00:29:14] not have the bonus, we automatically
[00:29:17] go almost to simple proportional representation, with all that this means for
[00:29:20] the formation of a government. From 25 and above there is a
[00:29:24] bonus, of course, it is progressive, it is not a direct
[00:29:27] bonus. So he objectively set the
[00:29:31] bar there for New Democracy, but mainly for
[00:29:34] himself, right? Because he was asked about these issues.
[00:29:37] Now, look, Mr. Mitsotakis is seeking a third
[00:29:41] four-year term. Third four-year terms,
[00:29:43] historically, are the most difficult political gamble that any
[00:29:47] party or political leader
[00:29:50] can have. Take it as you like.
[00:29:53] Of course, Spyros is right when he says that Mr. Mitsotakis's biggest weapon
[00:29:57] are his opponents, that there is no
[00:30:01] alternative, that is. alternative governing
[00:30:05] party ready as it was in
[00:30:08] almost all of its entire this essentially this
[00:30:12] wear and tear of the two four-year terms
[00:30:15] if there was some other some other formation I imagine
[00:30:19] the wear and tear would be greater, the fact that there isn't they are giving a gift to Mr. Mitsotakis right
[00:30:22] now, there isn't and not only isn't there but
[00:30:26] we see that this derby between
[00:30:29] Greece and PASOK
[00:30:31] creates even bigger problems. Now what does Mr. Mitsotakis do? Mr.
[00:30:35] Mitsotakis, in my opinion, correctly, as things
[00:30:38] stand, as things stand, not strategically correct
[00:30:42] in the long run, but as things stand,
[00:30:46] correctly, he doesn't try to gather back
[00:30:49] his right-wing supporters and
[00:30:53] he looks to the center, which is much
[00:30:56] more loyal to this New Democracy.