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[00:01:44] Rena Krivopoulou. She's constantly contradicting herself about the alcohol
[00:01:47] issue. Always about her past and anything related to alcoholism. If
[00:01:51] any alcohol consumption continues, your baby
[00:01:55] is in serious danger. Here, what else do you want to
[00:01:57] hear?
[00:06:12] Because we have inflation data that has been released for various
[00:06:15] sectors. We haven't seen such high inflation since
[00:06:18] February 2023. Eurostat's first
[00:06:21] estimate now shows that we are at 5.6% in October
[00:06:25] from 5.1% in September. I should tell you that only Lithuania and
[00:06:28] Bulgaria saw their prices rise at a faster rate. Yes, we are third
[00:06:32] along with Italy. Let's look at the data that concerns us
[00:06:36] most, which is our fuel. So, as you
[00:06:40] understand, the price of unleaded has increased. We have seen it.
[00:06:44] The big wound is energy now. When energy rises by 26.5%,
[00:06:48] guys, this is unmanageable. There is no way. This drags everything along. It drags
[00:06:51] our universe. High since September 2022. So we have
[00:06:55] unleaded diesel LPG. Look, despite the
[00:06:58] subsidies, how much oil has gone up too, of course.
[00:07:02] Plus 35.7% with 40 cents subsidy, and
[00:07:06] electricity has increased by 7%.
[00:07:09] Big, despite the agreement, sir. For some
[00:07:13] products, and the agreement on food. We are below
[00:07:16] the European average, but here too, things have taken their course
[00:07:20] because we have inflation in this sector
[00:07:23] accelerated to 1.4 1.6
[00:07:25] 1.4. We are below the community average.
[00:07:29] I should tell you that the national initiative for food reduction will continue with
[00:07:33] 99 with 994 codes and will gradually be added
[00:07:36] to the platform. How much does it cost? I think,
[00:07:40] however, that as far as this part is concerned, I think
[00:07:44] they live it every day. Let's
[00:07:47] listen to them. Tell me something that doesn't
[00:07:50] go up. The money isn't enough. They don't get 850. The money isn't enough.
[00:07:54] They have stopped oil heating despite having individual heating.
[00:07:57] We stopped putting oil in years ago. Natural gas car. Last year
[00:08:01] I put 1.15. This year I put 1.85. There's no
[00:08:05] problem. It's perhaps one of the few times I look at the
[00:08:08] receipts because I say something is not right. You can't buy five
[00:08:11] things and... give 30, 40-50.
[00:08:15] Thank you very much, Maria. We wish you well. Let's greet the
[00:08:19] Minister of National Economy and Finance, President of the Eurogroup, Kyriakos Pierrakakis. Good morning
[00:08:22] to you. Welcome. Let's continue,
[00:08:26] please, Mr. Minister, if you want, before we go to the topic we will
[00:08:29] discuss thoroughly, private debt, i.e., services and
[00:08:32] so on. Here we saw the subsidies before, in the middle, on fuel and so on. Will
[00:08:36] this continue and for how long can we, how long can we afford to continue this? First of all, I should say
[00:08:40] that the data you presented before
[00:08:43] on food. Greece has a better performance, but energy is what
[00:08:47] drives inflation both in Greece and in our wider
[00:08:51] region. You mentioned Italy. This is something we have encountered for several years. Overall,
[00:08:55] in the Eurozone, there is a big challenge at the moment. It has to do with the straits, with the
[00:08:58] closure of the Hormuz Strait and the war. But Greece is one of the
[00:09:02] countries that try, within their capabilities, to support
[00:09:06] as many people as they can, for as long as they can. We have given
[00:09:09] over 1.44 billion from the crisis
[00:09:13] purely for energy measures, and I will tell you
[00:09:16] why we are here to discuss everything we say in Parliament
[00:09:19] these days. We will be in Parliament next week for the
[00:09:22] DETH bill, which increases the disposable income of citizens.
[00:09:26] If one adds all these and the subsidies that are given in Attica to
[00:09:30] support the people we just saw, and the increase in
[00:09:34] disposable income, we will be by the side of every citizen for as long
[00:09:37] as it takes, precisely because Greece has built capabilities. Yes,
[00:09:41] but do you have the... the reserves, because this thing doesn't seem to stop, at least
[00:09:45] until Trump decides. Well, of course, in the foreseeable future, no. For how long
[00:09:49] can you do it? As I told you, we have built capabilities as a country. You will see.
[00:09:53] You also saw in the draft budget already some money that has been
[00:09:55] budgeted, but I think we have proven until today that in every crisis
[00:09:59] we had responsiveness. I know that this, in relation to the people's
[00:10:03] expectation, the bar is always higher, but on the other hand, I think that the
[00:10:06] people will also acknowledge that there are reflexes, there is
[00:10:10] speed, and there is also a state that intervenes precisely with the concern that
[00:10:14] we understand the problems and we want to be there. Let's go, Mr. Minister, to
[00:10:18] Parliament today. You are voting on the bill. You have also requested a roll-call
[00:10:21] vote. You did this. You
[00:10:25] used this. Why did you do that? Let's start a bit with that and then go to the substance.
[00:10:29] I also heard your discussion with Mrs. Bakoyannis about the political
[00:10:33] vocabulary and how it has changed, and I think that the core of the
[00:10:37] issue is not what we say in Parliament. The core of the issue is what
[00:10:40] the people who are watching us right now say: do you help them or do you not help them?
[00:10:44] Do you give them tools or do you not give them tools? So here we have a
[00:10:47] bill which, not the benevolent, the
[00:10:51] objective one, will say that it comes to set rules and support
[00:10:54] it. The opposition tried to
[00:10:57] conceal this in the previous days. So, precisely because
[00:11:01] we have an opposition that claims it wants to support
[00:11:04] debtors, let's be specific. In a roll-call
[00:11:07] vote, we put all the issues down. Do we want to set
[00:11:11] rules for services? Do we want to set deadlines for services? Does it help the
[00:11:15] debtor 100%? Do we want to impose fines?
[00:11:18] We have increased fines tenfold in the services law. Will
[00:11:21] the opposition vote for this or not? So, beyond... the political
[00:11:25] competition, let's say we are in an election period. All these
[00:11:28] apply. Mr. Androulakis yesterday, because some of the proposals
[00:11:31] I saw, excuse me, are unrealistic. I mean,
[00:11:35] let me quickly tell you a specific one. We are talking about the protection of the
[00:11:39] primary residence. The government has brought a change to the
[00:11:41] out-of-court settlement. I will come to that. What does PASOK
[00:11:45] say? It says that first there must be bankruptcy of the citizen.
[00:11:48] Is there anyone watching us who wants to go bankrupt first to protect his
[00:11:51] house? For
[00:11:55] regulation in the out-of-court settlement, we started this at the end of
[00:11:58] September so that one can protect their primary residence through the
[00:12:02] out-of-court settlement. 675 people who are watching us have entered
[00:12:05] this, and it is already a tool. In other
[00:12:08] things, let me tell you another example that might sound
[00:12:11] interesting.
[00:12:14] PASOK says in its proposal that you can buy your
[00:12:18] loan, like the servicer, at a fraction of the exact amount.
[00:12:22] It sounds pleasant. It sounds
[00:12:25] like it. On the other hand, I will tell you two things that were also mentioned in Parliament yesterday:
[00:12:29] First, if this is true, then why should anyone
[00:12:32] repay a loan in our country again? Why should this happen? Second,
[00:12:36] so that they don't wait to buy it cheap. Yes. Second, why should the bank
[00:12:39] give a loan again if it knows that these loans will not be serviced? All the struggle we
[00:12:43] are making, and rightly so. I will tell you that the banks must give more loans.
[00:12:47] They have the highest growth rate in Europe, but we are still below the
[00:12:51] European average, of course. So, wait a minute, let me finish
[00:12:55] this. Even Velopoulos's proposal that I heard yesterday said
[00:12:58] something more than that, that there should be a 10% premium for the servicers.
[00:13:02] You know, here the issue is not a pleasant one. The issue
[00:13:06] is to be able to help every person who is watching us. People
[00:13:09] are anxious about whether they will be able to repay their loans. They want a helping
[00:13:13] hand from the state. So we want to help those who
[00:13:16] want to pay. They just tell you that for seven years you left
[00:13:19] debtors unprotected and you remembered them now that it's an election
[00:13:23] period. I disagree with that, and I'll tell you
[00:13:27] why. I'll only tell you about the things that have been done in the last year by the
[00:13:30] Ministry of Finance. Do you want the increase in the attachment
[00:13:34] limit? Do you want the reduction in the amount to enter the out-of-court settlement from
[00:13:38] 10,000 to 5,000€? Do you want the 120 installments,
[00:13:42] if you didn't get them
[00:13:49] Katseli law, for which I have expressed my reservations personally, because the
[00:13:52] 40% should not have... The 40% should not
[00:13:56] have been included in the Katseli law. The people who needed to protect their home
[00:14:00] were running to the courts for 16 years. A decision was issued by the Supreme
[00:14:04] Court. The decision did not impose retroactivity on the government, and we went and
[00:14:07] imposed it retroactively. So it is very
[00:14:10] hypocritical, you know, for someone to come and say that we don't want to protect and
[00:14:14] help the people.
[00:14:17] Let's go to Article 23. You brought this, under
[00:14:20] pressure from the opposition, you withdrew it. And the question
[00:14:23] is twofold. The question is twofold. Why did you bring it, why did you withdraw it?
[00:14:27] Your opponents also accuse you that it was a command from the servicers.
[00:14:30] What is true here? I will first say that for someone to come and say that we brought
[00:14:34] a law at the command of the servicers, which sets deadlines for them, sets a cap
[00:14:38] on advances, and increases their fines tenfold, do you
[00:14:41] imagine, do you imagine any reasonable person in this country that
[00:14:45] the servicers came and said, "Kyriakos Pierrakakis, increase my
[00:14:48] fine tenfold, give me a deadline,"
[00:14:51] and put a cap on the advance payment and so on? These are ridiculous things.
[00:14:55] Exactly. Let me tell you what this
[00:14:59] article said first. This article did not say that the servicer could unilaterally
[00:15:03] go and execute. This article
[00:15:06] spoke of a consensual process and did not remove judicial
[00:15:10] protection because Article 933 of the Code of Civil
[00:15:13] Procedure is always there. People could go to court and file an appeal against the
[00:15:17] execution. But because these are also technical issues, what
[00:15:21] did we realize about a bill which
[00:15:24] entirely, 100%, goes to set rules for
[00:15:28] servicers and to give rights to the people who are watching us? The
[00:15:32] opposition tried to play a game precisely because of the election period, that this
[00:15:35] is the opposite. It turned white into black. So we
[00:15:39] removed this privilege from them, and the last point is that they should not
[00:15:42] vote. Precisely for this reason, we requested a
[00:15:46] roll-call vote to see what. You know, political
[00:15:50] competition exists among politicians. It is legitimate.
[00:15:53] I am also a candidate MP. All these
[00:15:56] are valid, of course. But put all these aside. There is something that transcends us. When
[00:16:00] people need us, they need a state to give them a hand, to help
[00:16:03] someone who wants to pay, to say, "I want to get my head above
[00:16:07] water." We all have a responsibility that transcends all this political
[00:16:10] game. So let's see what this responsibility is and if they will keep it for
[00:16:14] the fixed interest rate of 3%. Let's explain it a bit. Can you explain
[00:16:17] it to us? Because here you
[00:16:21] say in your forecast that it concerns vulnerable and eligible debtors of the
[00:16:24] out-of-court settlement. Why only them and not all those who have
[00:16:28] joined us? One example for us to understand this. The
[00:16:31] example where one can win, there is this exception, the restriction. Let's look at
[00:16:35] everything. The example, first of all, is. For someone who, for example,
[00:16:39] owes 100,000€ for twenty years, the benefit can be
[00:16:42] up to 28,000€. Indeed,
[00:16:45] for us, the main tool is called out-of-court settlement. Why is it called
[00:16:48] out-of-court settlement? Because it helps the vulnerable most, and I think
[00:16:51] that's right. I mean, if
[00:16:55] we asked the people, "Do you want the vulnerable to have more
[00:16:58] privileges, more provisions?" Yes, we would say. So, the
[00:17:02] out-of-court settlement helps the vulnerable more. We
[00:17:05] expanded it recently to include the middle class.
[00:17:09] So what do we say there? There was a 3% interest rate at the
[00:17:12] beginning for the first few years, then it was floating, it was also taking the
[00:17:16] Euribor, and we are in an era and we are in an era of fixed
[00:17:20] high interest rates, as you know. So we made it fixed, because first, because there is
[00:17:24] this great benefit, second, and for another reason, beyond the
[00:17:27] benefit, people who want to pay cannot live with this
[00:17:31] anxiety, especially in this era. So we say that by saying that this is
[00:17:35] 3%, by putting it at... at 3%, we
[00:17:39] also tell these people that there is now predictability. Now,
[00:17:42] you know, in all this, as I told you at the beginning, there must be a
[00:17:45] balance. In everything there must be a balance. What
[00:17:49] do I mean? Even in the vocabulary. And I will
[00:17:52] come to what you are asking me. On the one hand, rules must be
[00:17:55] set for the servicers 100%. You know how many times
[00:17:58] people grab me, they talk to me and say, "I call the phone, they don't answer
[00:18:01] the phone." Right? "I don't have clarity on how much
[00:18:05] money I owe." The people are right there. So rules must be set, and whoever
[00:18:09] does not follow the rules after this framework will suffer
[00:18:12] all the consequences, which are many. I urge people to
[00:18:16] read what the legislative text says. This is one
[00:18:19] side, the one logical argument. Do you know what the other
[00:18:23] is? I don't want to see again the picture I saw yesterday in Parliament, all
[00:18:27] this toxicity. Because on the other hand, we experienced the toxicity of
[00:18:30] 2015, where everything was said. We
[00:18:34] don't want to crucify anyone. We want to help.
[00:18:41] I really liked what I saw earlier from Mrs. Bakoyannis, who is an official with a huge
[00:18:45] career, and she comes and says, "I'm sorry for what I
[00:18:48] said, I made a mistake." So this official with this
[00:18:52] career says it. We are in an election period, and it is good to
[00:18:55] keep a measure because we are speaking for society. This
[00:18:59] is our job. People have voted for us to help them, not to be
[00:19:03] MPs. So the image in Parliament
[00:19:05] yesterday.
[00:19:07] It was indeed, but you also reinforce it. This is
[00:19:10] tango. I disagree, because I have to answer, I mean you,
[00:19:14] not personally, answer. When I hear things that are
[00:19:17] out of reality, when white turns black, excuse me, I have a responsibility to
[00:19:21] be able to answer with data. You said, for example, that you characterized Tsipras as the
[00:19:24] father of fans. Why did you say that?
[00:19:27] Okay, here, allow
[00:19:29] me. Now, on
[00:19:31] loans.
[00:19:34] Mr. Tsipras denounces a process
[00:19:38] which, excuse me, he brought. It bears his signature far and wide. He can do a
[00:19:41] rebranding, he cannot change his government's gazettes. He brought electronic
[00:19:45] auctions, indeed, he brought fans to Greece. He
[00:19:48] gave an interview the other day in which he says not even 1€
[00:19:52] passed to fans during my tenure. I spoke with the Bank of
[00:19:55] Greece. I asked, "Can you tell me how much passed until 2019?" They tell me 18
[00:19:59] billion. 18 billion then. 18 billion before '19, March
[00:20:02] '19. Indeed. I say it in Parliament. Mr. Tsipras's
[00:20:06] party recognizes 375 million,
[00:20:10] they say, ultimately passed in housing loans. We are still
[00:20:13] how much short of reaching 18 billion? 17.625
[00:20:16] billion. I want to believe that we will find them in the coming weeks. They will
[00:20:20] remember them then. Now I'll
[00:20:23] stop joking and say this: this
[00:20:26] is a very serious matter for them to think they can
[00:20:30] erase history. Greece went through very difficult years. The
[00:20:34] word "truth" etymologically means "not to forget."
[00:20:38] Our job is not to repeat the same mistakes, regardless of which party
[00:20:42] we represent. Here we must help the
[00:20:45] people, remember that there are conscientious debtors. We must
[00:20:49] maintain balance. The economy. We must not
[00:20:51] let Greece return to the situation it found itself in, and at the same time, we must
[00:20:55] help all these people who are right in all this. But people, you know,
[00:20:59] also see cases, many cases recently,
[00:21:02] with many scandals. Cases
[00:21:05] where these types were stealing from anyone who spoke
[00:21:08] Greek. The state, first of all, us, that is, the taxpayers. The latest case is
[00:21:12] the "horiatiko" here. We see state services, state structures
[00:21:16] searching within their own people. The "Pitsilis" is looking for
[00:21:20] who was taking them. The police are conducting an internal
[00:21:23] investigation, who was giving information. Everyone.
[00:21:27] I refer to the "horiatiko" and to Rhodes and to the cadastral service and all
[00:21:30] were obviously rigged. We have all
[00:21:34] understood this. What are you doing there? Can you tell us? So, I will tell you a series of
[00:21:38] actions we have taken without publicizing them in the last few weeks,
[00:21:41] regarding the cadastral services you mentioned,
[00:21:44] because we didn't waste a minute. We are talking about beaches now. Yes, so the first thing is that
[00:21:48] we relieved from his duties the head of the cadastral
[00:21:52] service of the Dodecanese. Ah, indeed. The second thing is that
[00:21:55] we ordered an internal investigation to attribute responsibilities wherever they
[00:21:58] exist. The third thing is that on October 27, we requested an
[00:22:02] urgent nationwide investigation to tell us all those things you mentioned,
[00:22:06] that is, every tender, every businessman, every person,
[00:22:09] if there is anything hidden in cross-checks with the other
[00:22:12] services, to see if in all these electronic
[00:22:16] auctions there might have been fictitiousness in the competition.
[00:22:25] And of course, I should say that relevant orders have been given since
[00:22:28] 2025. I should say that licenses have been
[00:22:30] revoked. Basically, concessions on beaches have been revoked
[00:22:34] before this case began. We have already
[00:22:37] started to receive the results of this investigation from the
[00:22:41] cadastral services. Whatever we find will immediately go
[00:22:43] into the hands of the prosecutor, and any responsibilities will be attributed. Whatever we find
[00:22:47] will go to the
[00:22:50] prosecutor. We are checking
[00:22:53] all these decisions, which
[00:22:56] are. Let's go. Super-digitalized. How will we
[00:22:59] find out? You're asking me because it's broader. So all this will go into
[00:23:02] the hands of justice. All relevant administrative sanctions
[00:23:05] will be imposed if they exist. But your question
[00:23:08] is broader.
[00:23:11] I consider it very important that all this is revealed. I should say
[00:23:15] first of all, with my European hat, I said it yesterday in Parliament.
[00:23:18] καπέλλο το πα και χθες στη βουλη.
[00:23:24] This no longer exists. The IADE should not be wronged. Here, over two billion
[00:23:28] per year. The IADE catches tax evasion. This is the
[00:23:31] surplus that goes back to the people who are watching us, and we can do all the
[00:23:34] support we mentioned before. So this is a social
[00:23:37] dividend, and there is also the Greek FBI. We created new
[00:23:41] structures precisely so that they can have additional tools to do
[00:23:44] it. And now for the first time, because now for the first time all
[00:23:48] these possibilities exist. The state
[00:23:51] has been digitized.
[00:23:58] You also have the absolute, absolute, at least to a very
[00:24:02] large extent, tools to find them. The state has not yet been
[00:24:05] fully digitized, and the former competent official tells you that. The state
[00:24:09] began a long journey in 2019. It was
[00:24:12] a sprint and a marathon together. Tremendous steps have been taken,
[00:24:16] and now we see their results, and we will see many more
[00:24:20] results. Of course, we will see more. And it is it's great that we can see them, thank you
[00:24:23] very much Mr. Minister, be
[00:24:26] well, good morning, so let's continue a little more here with
[00:24:29] Marokaprousi who always has topics of great interest from
[00:24:33] you children again, yes, we will see it is a
[00:24:36] video, it is shocking, it is a harsh video, but it interrupts the
[00:24:39] moment when these two people lose their lives, it is a terrible news that comes from
[00:24:43] Brazil, a flight with a paraglider had a tragic
[00:24:46] ending and the 45-year-old instructor.
[00:24:52] So what happened here, let's say it was recorded by the camera on the paraglider
[00:24:56] as well as from another spot on the beach, they hit a wall children, so these two
[00:25:00] people, so these two people died according to the
[00:25:03] eyewitnesses now before the crash there was no indication
[00:25:07] that something was wrong in fact, from his side, the president of
[00:25:11] the free contorndo stated that the wind
[00:25:14] conditions were good and attributed all the responsibilities
[00:25:17] because we are talking about the instructor we are talking about a tourist
[00:25:21] who entrusted his life to the experienced supposedly hands of this
[00:25:24] instructor, he attributed it all to the instructor's mistake, instructor's handling
[00:25:28] error, it was not a mistake here of the man, what could
[00:25:32] be a mistake, said the president of this free
[00:25:35] free flight, that it was a maneuver at low altitude,
[00:25:39] an unforgivable mistake, if he had landed in the sand
[00:25:42] it probably would not have had this outcome,
[00:25:45] he gave, on a wall, he gave a statement to the police, this man
[00:25:49] reported. that the instructor had been flying for more than 10 years, but what
[00:25:53] he revealed was that he had obtained an official license only one
[00:25:56] year ago, so he was flying for 10 years without a license, he was an
[00:26:00] instructor, for only one year.
[00:26:06] and I repeat, it's a sport, a hobby, a
[00:26:10] nice experience that you go and do and you literally
[00:26:13] entrust your life to the hands of an experienced
[00:26:16] supposedly person to do it, yes, but yes, yes, so I
[00:26:20] would never do that, no way
[00:26:22] at all
[00:26:24] I have done skydiving once,
[00:28:45] I saw, I saw it, Maro, you saw it at work, where did you see it, I always watch it,
[00:28:48] you came from outside, I always have eyes everywhere, no, no, no,
[00:28:52] traffic, children, with the energy of the hero,
[00:28:54] come on.
[00:29:09] Good morning, indeed, as my colleague mentioned earlier, we still
[00:29:12] have traffic on several roads in the basin, we are at the height
[00:29:16] of Faliro now with the Sky drone and the red one, and we will
[00:29:19] slowly go towards Glyfada, in the background we also see the Hellinikon, the
[00:29:23] tower of Hellinikon, we have some problems still at this
[00:29:27] particular spot from behind the Faliro Bay
[00:29:31] towards Eden, if... but fortunately in sections, and in a few minutes the road will be
[00:29:35] completely clear, you will see a small delay a little further
[00:29:37] ahead. Where do we pay attention? We pay attention
[00:29:41] if and when we go up Kifissou avenue from
[00:29:45] KTEL towards Nea Chalkidona, which maintains a
[00:29:48] difficult profile. We pay attention to the two lanes of Athinon
[00:29:52] Avenue and outwards from the forest of Chaidari, that is, towards
[00:29:55] Lake Koumoudourou and towards Athens along the University
[00:29:59] of West Attica and Kifissou. We also pay attention to the
[00:30:03] ascent of Kifissias avenue, which is also improving, but
[00:30:07] still from the height of Katechaki, going up towards
[00:30:10] Psychiko it will delay you, in Nea
[00:30:12] Erythraia and with this we will conclude, the descending axis of Eleftheriou
[00:30:16] Venizelou Kifissias along Nea Erythraia and
[00:30:19] going down towards Kifissia, has a lot of
[00:30:22] delay. Happy hour is coming from the
[00:30:26] current from the
[00:30:26] hero.
[00:30:39] the protagonists in an underwater
[00:30:41] mission, thousands of illegal
[00:30:44] traps at the bottom of the Thracian Sea,
[00:30:48] who will stop them, who benefits from the
[00:30:52] plunder of the sea? Protagonists with Stavros
[00:30:56] Theodorakis, on Tuesday at 11:00 at night.