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[00:02:48] So, here we are with the kids. I wanted to say, here we are
[00:02:52] in the office with Mr. Thanasis. I also wanted to sing the
[00:02:55] song that Michalis plays. You were torn. I was torn. I didn't know what to do. In the end, I
[00:02:59] did nothing. I said both, so, Nefeli, we were
[00:03:02] left with the very complicated family
[00:03:06] relationships of the Trump dynasty, a complicated
[00:03:10] man. They're not a dynasty yet. Two generations don't even have to pass.
[00:03:13] Look, it's two generations. Now we're going. Think
[00:03:17] about it. His father was a very well-known
[00:03:20] businessman,
[00:03:21] a big one,
[00:03:26] with tens of millions, hundreds of millions, he wasn't.
[00:03:30] So, I finished with the firstborn, Donald Trump
[00:03:33] Junior, and just so you understand the dynamic, let me tell you that
[00:03:37] when Ivana, Donald Trump's wife, told him, "Since it's a
[00:03:40] boy, the first child, we'll name him Donald Junior," he said,
[00:03:44] "And if he's a loser, what will we do? A loser will have his name?
[00:03:47] A stupid loser?" This is so you understand how he sees
[00:03:51] things. From then on, he saw them that way. From then on. And
[00:03:55] we move on to the daughter. For people like
[00:03:57] Donald Trump, children are not
[00:04:01] a place where I can give my love, receive love,
[00:04:04] raise a person. They are
[00:04:07] like a car. They have to be
[00:04:10] a certain way. I don't think there's a heart where it should be. I don't think
[00:04:13] there's a heart in there, yes, I don't know, yes, it has
[00:04:17] other things, yes, that's what I want to tell you, it's not the child, it's my continuation.
[00:04:21] It has to represent me. It has to continue what I do
[00:04:25] and not something else. So all these are given to
[00:04:28] such people. Okay, if you see, because we know how
[00:04:31] he grew up and how his own parents were, you understand
[00:04:35] him. You don't understand him, you understand why he reacts like that, because of the pattern.
[00:04:38] Others grew up in such environments and
[00:04:42] became people
[00:04:42] later.
[00:04:47] Or Ivanka, to whom he says, "My son has turned out like this, now
[00:04:50] the daughter. Mom was Ivana, the daughter is Ivanka." Kids, he
[00:04:54] adored his daughter. People who
[00:04:58] were coming in and out of the house at the time describe
[00:05:02] that from the time she was a baby until she was a teenage
[00:05:05] girl, a grown-up girl, he
[00:05:08] had her on his lap and caressed her, kissed her, he was
[00:05:11] tender, because he wasn't. He was not a tender person at all, so any
[00:05:14] display of affection towards his daughter was strange and everyone
[00:05:18] observed it with surprise, but generally this
[00:05:22] weakness often reached points of, ah, I have a way to
[00:05:25] describe it to you, I will let Donald Trump speak in an
[00:05:29] interview, he talks about his daughter, I want to hear him.
[00:05:49] Yes, it's a bit sick, he said it well, it's not the only comment he's
[00:05:53] made, generally he focuses a lot on her appearance, he's
[00:05:57] very proud of her appearance, when she enters
[00:06:00] rooms,
[00:06:03] she's his daughter, a father doesn't constantly deal with his daughter's appearance
[00:06:07] in this way, here we go again, ah, okay, let's
[00:06:10] move on, eh.
[00:06:20] From very early on, she learned to handle this weakness or at least to
[00:06:24] communicate, not
[00:06:26] successfully, not correctly, meaning she knew how to
[00:06:29] approach him, how to ask for what she wanted, how to make what
[00:06:33] she wanted acceptable to him, she
[00:06:36] manipulated him, there wasn't that, that competition that
[00:06:40] existed and exists with the boys, so he knew
[00:06:43] how to communicate with him, he's the only person that if she
[00:06:46] calls him, he'll pick up, even in his
[00:06:50] difficult moments, and at the same time, according to those who have
[00:06:53] dealt with it and written his biographies, he's the person who
[00:06:56] betrays him very easily, and a characteristic
[00:07:00] example is when he lost the elections,
[00:07:03] Ivanka and her husband were among the most
[00:07:06] favored, they had institutional roles,
[00:07:09] money, access, as
[00:07:12] soon as he lost, she was the first child, Ivanka,
[00:07:16] who said, "Dad, you lost, goodbye," and tried to
[00:07:20] do damage control for her own
[00:07:22] family. Yes, she had no sensitivity
[00:07:26] towards an elderly father who, after all,
[00:07:29] is going through a very difficult phase. They say that she might
[00:07:32] be the most cynical person, even more cynical than Trump, who is incredibly cynical.
[00:07:36] There's someone even more cynical, and that's his daughter. He
[00:07:40] understands and appreciates that.
[00:07:42] Only with Kushner? Yes, yes, a marriage that Trump didn't
[00:07:46] want at first, she changed
[00:07:49] religion, no, because he thought his daughter should be with
[00:07:53] a very famous basketball player, a Hollywood
[00:07:56] star. Ah, he had a weakness and he said it, not in an interview,
[00:08:00] but in a story. He told me, he had
[00:08:04] expressed his admiration for my daughter. Kids,
[00:08:08] what's his ex-husband's name? I don't remember
[00:08:11] names, Gisele's.
[00:08:18] And he had said, "And I told him, 'Well, why didn't you tell me sooner before
[00:08:22] I gave her to Kushner?'" That is, well,
[00:08:26] he preferred, usually fathers prefer the
[00:08:29] businessman. No, no, well, the other one has immense
[00:08:32] wealth. He didn't want him for his wealth. He wanted him for his beauty
[00:08:35] and beauty and his stature, considering that
[00:08:39] she is beautiful and he is handsome.
[00:08:42] Aryan blood to have beautiful children, but Kushner is not
[00:08:45] ugly. Why did he change his religion? She
[00:08:48] changed because he is of Israeli descent and
[00:08:52] is of Jewish origin. Did she work anywhere else or only in her dad's
[00:08:56] businesses? She started with her dad's
[00:08:59] businesses, also favored provocatively in his businesses,
[00:09:02] unlike the boys whom he downgraded and made them do
[00:09:06] various things, and then she decided that she knew everything, so she could
[00:09:09] become a businesswoman and launched her own
[00:09:19] beauty pageants, she did a lot and returned to her dad,
[00:09:22] she dealt with his pageants,
[00:09:25] she was president, her dad, and then not president, owner, I think,
[00:09:29] owner and in and presenter as
[00:09:31] owner, I don't remember, then she took over, she entered her
[00:09:35] dad's reality show, she became co-producer, co-presenter,
[00:09:39] they have done a lot together, eh.
[00:09:43] Mutual dislike with Melania, and perhaps the
[00:09:46] only person Donald Trump doesn't care about what Melania
[00:09:50] says, because Donald Trump listens to Melania and is a little afraid of her,
[00:09:54] we've said it before, we haven't been able to explain it exactly, but his daughter is
[00:09:58] above all, and every time she returns, not the prodigal son, but the
[00:10:01] prodigal daughter, it's as if she never left him, as if she never abandoned
[00:10:05] him, so he has a weakness for her, anyway, which is not explained
[00:10:08] by mutual dislike for Melania, yes, Melania for her.
[00:10:33] I'm talking about the first term, he said his daughter can't have
[00:10:36] this office, he asked assistants to take her things out of the office,
[00:10:40] she went back in, they were putting in and taking out things, it was
[00:10:43] one with some vases, ah, the vases were with Trump, with Trump,
[00:10:47] no, no, I don't know that, I don't know, yes, eh,
[00:10:50] Ivanka, Ivanka, due to this special relationship with her
[00:10:54] father.
[00:11:04] There was never doubt in my mind that I was his top
[00:11:08] priority and that he was available to me, so I used to call
[00:11:11] him from the pay phone at uh at
[00:11:15] Shapen, it was in a broom closet and never once
[00:11:18] did he not pick up and sometimes his office would be filled with people
[00:11:22] of um, you'd be in the middle of deal.
[00:11:41] her public image, if we want to believe it. So let's go to the third
[00:11:44] one. Now let's go to the third son, the third
[00:11:47] child, second son, kids, I don't have much to tell you about this
[00:11:51] poor Eric, who is 42 years old, he was preceded by the
[00:11:55] first son and then the daughter, his weakness. He almost
[00:11:58] forgot him, he existed, he did
[00:12:00] his part, he is the third and last child that
[00:12:03] Donald Trump had with Ivana. So, he had a great
[00:12:07] weakness for his mother, his father never cared
[00:12:11] about him, he considered him
[00:12:14] untalented, he didn't do very well in school,
[00:12:17] Donald Trump found this very embarrassing, so what
[00:12:21] did he do? He learned to be observant, to watch.
[00:12:25] And to copy the father he adored from a distance. This one has
[00:12:28] a beard and that one is clean-shaven, yes, completely, and he also changes his
[00:12:32] glasses, he changes his glasses, yes, he looks like his dad, a lot,
[00:12:36] and he also looks like his sister, if you see him, you'll understand. What does he do?
[00:12:40] Well, he was involved from the beginning until the end, he hasn't changed, he hasn't
[00:12:43] dared to do anything else, with his dad's businesses, whatever his dad
[00:12:47] gave him, he did it, but they say he's
[00:12:51] the most capable entrepreneurially, because he observed.
[00:12:56] He learned, he learned, he learned, he never complained, and now he has become an
[00:12:59] entrepreneur, and in fact, he is the one who makes money for the
[00:13:03] family and has taken on all the projects and all the
[00:13:06] business now that his dad is busy,
[00:13:10] and we go to the second daughter, so let's go
[00:13:13] to the second marriage, ah, since Ivana's cycle
[00:13:17] is closing, his first wife, and we talked about the three
[00:13:20] children, do you want to hear her talk about Donald Trump as
[00:13:23] a father? what kind of mother were
[00:13:26] you? i was very strict but i was loving, i
[00:13:29] love my kids. you right, i believe the credit for raising such great
[00:13:33] kids belongs to me. full credit, full credit.
[00:13:37] don't was on the telephone making the deals. he was loving father, don't
[00:13:41] get me wrong, and he was a good provider, but he was not the
[00:13:44] father which would take a stroller and go to the central park or go
[00:13:48] play to baseball with them. that was only until they
[00:13:52] were about 18 year old, he could communicate with.
[00:14:20] his money and time generously and freely, his
[00:14:24] time.
[00:14:27] We finished with the first marriage and we go to the second.
[00:14:31] Donald Trump divorces and marries an
[00:14:34] actress, Marla is her name,
[00:14:38] Maples, this marriage didn't last long, in reality he didn't want to
[00:14:41] remarry and had a daughter, Tiffany. If
[00:14:45] he wanted to remarry, why did he marry now, and you too, he himself has said
[00:14:49] that this marriage was a mistake and I think that his opinion
[00:14:53] about the mistake also affects his relationship or his
[00:14:57] feelings for his daughter. This daughter is as if she doesn't
[00:15:00] exist. Specifically, a
[00:15:03] biographer says that Donald Trump has publicly said that
[00:15:06] she is a burden, that he often forgets her and
[00:15:10] has to be reminded that since all his children are around,
[00:15:13] we must also call Tiffany, and he himself looks for
[00:15:17] a few seconds confused, who is this Tiffany they are
[00:15:20] referring to? They have no relationship, they have spoken
[00:15:24] very few times in their lives beyond the formalities, and the
[00:15:27] poor girl has accepted that her father is who he is. But I see her talking about
[00:15:31] Trump, meaning she also
[00:15:34] tried to get into the brand, she's also
[00:15:37] in the brand. The one who put her in the brand is
[00:15:41] the first daughter, because she has good relations with Ivanka,
[00:15:44] the first one. I want to ask if she has at least some
[00:15:48] relationship with her other siblings. Ivanka, as you said, you said something about her public
[00:15:52] speech, she is, and I said before that she is cynical, so
[00:15:55] she knows that it is very important for the family to be
[00:15:58] united, strength in unity, to appear so, so
[00:16:02] Tiffany must also be in the Trump brand.
[00:16:06] Do you want to hear a much younger Trump speak? He is
[00:16:10] still married in his second marriage and he speaks, he has just had
[00:16:13] Tiffany, she is a baby. This is in the
[00:16:17] 90s, 90s,
[00:16:21] Tiffany is 33.
[00:16:24] what does tiffany have of yours and what is tiffany have of
[00:16:28] mal? well i think that she's got a lot of moral and
[00:16:31] she's really beautiful baby and she's uh she's got
[00:16:35] um
[00:16:42] I just want to say that he's talking about a here, he's
[00:16:45] abnormal, I'm sorry to say it, I mean, he talks about his children's
[00:16:49] breasts and legs for a baby, he's talking about a little girl who is
[00:16:53] 12 months old, however, he sees women only
[00:16:56] according to their external appearance, meaning if a woman doesn't have the
[00:17:00] appearance he wants, he doesn't care, okay, that's one part, what
[00:17:04] his children are, well, obviously he doesn't feel paternal. He feels
[00:17:08] that he's talking about a woman, he's not talking
[00:17:11] about, okay, in the first one, that he would go on a date with my daughter,
[00:17:15] he didn't, you don't say that, he has said other things
[00:17:19] about Ivanka, he has said two or three such comments, he has
[00:17:22] made them publicly about her legs, he said
[00:17:26] she is a beautiful girl, but you don't,
[00:17:29] anyway, you don't focus on specific body parts
[00:17:33] of your daughter, yes, but that applies to all women, okay, a bit more than his
[00:17:36] children, but for all women, he sees them that way, yes, I think he sees them that
[00:17:40] way, yes, he doesn't see them as babies. So, we finished with his second marriage,
[00:17:44] let's go. What can we say about the poor girl? I told you that
[00:17:47] Melania said she's more boring than sleep, eh, that
[00:17:51] Donald Trump has said, "I can't stand to hear her speak, she reminds me of her mother."
[00:17:54] No, you didn't tell us that. Oh, I didn't tell you that. Yes, eh, anyway,
[00:17:58] she was talking, has she written any books? No, no, they're keeping an eye on her so she doesn't
[00:18:02] write one. No, so they've put her to do
[00:18:06] election campaigning too. All the children and Donald Trump is
[00:18:09] below, they tell him, "Tiffany is going to go up now." Come on,
[00:18:13] man, she talks, she talks, the sweetie, she says how wonderful her
[00:18:16] father is, my dad will save America, now this is witnessed, that's
[00:18:20] why it's in a book, and he turns and says, "But I can't stand to hear this
[00:18:24] woman speak, she's exactly like her mother, and I couldn't stand her mother."
[00:18:27] You see about the dislike he has for her mother, that
[00:18:31] woman whom we should remember he married, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
[00:18:34] So let's go now to the last son.
[00:18:40] I mean, I want to say, he's Melania's, he's Melania's, she raised
[00:18:43] him more European because she's from
[00:18:47] there, but Donald Trump accepted him from
[00:18:51] a certain age onwards and he is perhaps, he says, his only child
[00:18:54] that he admires and that he speaks with pride about his
[00:18:58] intelligence, about his character, about his presence. But before
[00:19:01] we go to the adult, do you want to see and
[00:19:04] remember Melania, Trump? And a baby
[00:19:08] Barron wandering around.
[00:19:11] goodbyes
[00:19:14] okay okay what are you going to
[00:19:18] remember no drugs no
[00:19:21] alcohol
[00:19:24] no cigarettes no tattoos i don't ever want to see tattoos
[00:19:27] on you His older children have also said
[00:19:31] what he used to tell them. This is his catchphrase. Okay,
[00:19:35] drugs.
[00:19:37] We can't blame him for this, he has also lost his brother to alcohol, that's
[00:19:41] also it. So, um, with Barron,
[00:19:45] he accepts him, he seems to like him, and I know
[00:19:48] it's strange to talk about a father's feelings as liking,
[00:19:52] but because he sees his children that way, there's already a distancing,
[00:19:56] he seems to like him, not be bothered by him, like to have
[00:19:59] him around, he likes that he reads, he is
[00:20:03] thoughtful, he says, he is smarter than my older children.
[00:20:07] Again, Tiffany, he
[00:20:09] has taken her height, he forgets Tiffany,
[00:20:13] he is smarter than my older children, he refers only to the three, Tiffany
[00:20:17] does not exist, and generally he believes that he can do a lot, he introduces him to
[00:20:20] various businessmen, friends, and always promotes him, they
[00:20:24] say that if Trump looks like a father, a proud
[00:20:28] father to any of his children, this is the only one,
[00:20:31] in fact, this is the relationship, he also has grandchildren, he doesn't have many grandchildren, well, many grandchildren, he has
[00:20:35] one likeable one.
[00:20:50] Well, yes, of course, he
[00:20:54] communicates because they play golf, so he has something to say with the other kids, yes,
[00:20:58] it's possible, there are, there are those who it's perfectly explained. So,
[00:21:01] this one also goes to a good job for the
[00:21:10] is taking legal action by filing a new request to the
[00:21:13] Supreme Court of Los Angeles against two lawyers
[00:21:17] who manage the estate of
[00:21:21] the foundation that handles her father's assets and intellectual property.
[00:21:24] I should remind you that when he died, all this,
[00:21:28] I'll tell you, when Michael Jackson died, there were debts, and
[00:21:32] when we talk about debts, we're talking about 500 million in debts. Now
[00:21:36] 17 years have passed since his death, and the debts have turned into
[00:21:40] over 2 billion
[00:21:42] in profits, profits, revenues. So they turned it
[00:21:46] around, they turned it around. They were in debt, but
[00:21:50] he also had assets, meaning there were songs,
[00:21:53] there were millions of works of art, and
[00:21:56] works of art, I mean, yes, there were debts, but there were also
[00:21:59] assets. Yes, things are never simple when we're talking about
[00:22:03] such stars, such
[00:22:04] legends.
[00:22:07] And with Elvis Presley, exactly the same things had happened. What happens when
[00:22:10] Michael Jackson died? There was this
[00:22:14] trust, there was this
[00:22:15] lawyer,
[00:22:18] uh, John Branca, who was by Michael Jackson's side for many
[00:22:21] decades, here we see him. They had a personal friendship, they were best
[00:22:25] men and they said, we will do our
[00:22:28] best with the estate and we will create a
[00:22:31] trust for his three children, so depending on
[00:22:35] the income we will have, money will be put into the trust and
[00:22:39] his mother separately, because his mother who is alive
[00:22:41] is also there. Years pass, money
[00:22:45] multiplies, things are going well and Paris
[00:22:48] Jackson says, we are not seeing the money we should, while
[00:22:52] you, John Branca, who are just the administrator, you
[00:22:56] live lavishly, you buy one mansion after
[00:22:59] another, you have a private jet,
[00:23:02] you pay off the credit cards and debts
[00:23:05] of your entire family, with my
[00:23:08] money. So, this is the mansion,
[00:23:12] here with children, the point is that Michael Jackson used to live
[00:23:16] there, but we're talking about a person who
[00:23:20] had identified his career with that of Michael Jackson, we're not talking about a
[00:23:23] random person who influenced him, and the person who was behind his
[00:23:27] very important decision to buy the rights to the Beatles, he was
[00:23:31] the one who orchestrated it all. So, everything will be judged
[00:23:35] in December, specifically on December 4th, the
[00:23:38] trial will take place, and Paris Jackson is asking for
[00:23:41] 600 million to be transferred to her and her
[00:23:44] siblings now. Not everyone agrees, I'll tell
[00:23:55] a 20-year-old scandal returns
[00:23:58] to Vanity Fair and implicates a
[00:24:02] man we know, who wants to become the next president of the
[00:24:06] United States with the Democratic Party. What did he do 20 years ago? He betrayed
[00:24:10] a friend and fell in love with every stone you lift, you
[00:24:13] see it.
[00:24:17] So, commercial break and we'll be back.
[00:24:20] See you soon in the studio at
[00:24:22] 3.
[00:24:28] On the couch with us, Eleni
[00:24:30] Panopoulou.
[00:24:37] Paris Jackson is claiming a larger share of her
[00:24:41] father's estate, accusing the administrators of Michael Jackson's
[00:24:44] estate of living a luxurious life
[00:24:48] at her expense and her
[00:24:51] siblings'.
[00:24:57] Panagis Koutalianos. The wrestler, the weightlifter, the
[00:25:01] legend. We talk to the author of the book about the unknown
[00:25:04] life of the legendary
[00:25:06] Koutalianos.
[00:25:12] The stars of Real Madrid, the coach,
[00:25:14] a global phenomenon, and the players whose names
[00:25:18] became brands.
[00:25:23] And finally, yes, from all over the world, the top
[00:25:25] news.
[00:25:30] And in our kitchen, Dimitris Makryniotis
[00:25:33] is preparing the delicious
[00:25:35] burnt Basque cheesecake.