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[00:01:01] person
[00:01:27] many sectors use leakage into
[00:01:40] that many
[00:01:46] and important
[00:01:55] of will that we saw in Peace, mercy, and blessings of God be upon you, and may God
[00:01:56] of life, especially in make your times good. Welcome
[00:02:00] to this new episode of "The Axis of Events," in which
[00:02:03] we will analyze and follow up on the latest,
[00:02:07] most important, and most prominent security, political, and military developments
[00:02:11] problems. So developing this related to Sudan, internally and externally. Welcome,
[00:02:14] and welcome to our guest for today's episode, Dr. Osman Hassan Osman,
[00:02:17] academic and political analyst. Welcome, Dr., and have a
[00:02:21] good day. Welcome, Professor Mayada.
[00:02:24] Greetings to you and the viewers of Sudan TV.
[00:02:27] I am
[00:02:29] even the war that was waged on very happy that we are back
[00:02:33] to our favorite program, "The Axis of Events."
[00:02:35] think moving in this Welcome. In fact, I am inside
[00:02:37] direction should be part of the TV station after an absence of three
[00:02:41] years.
[00:02:43] on electricity. That is, memories
[00:02:47] the problems in this and images came to my mind, and in fact, I noticed
[00:02:51] customs? Customs, in the traces of destruction and I noticed the new work
[00:02:56] problems that this in overcoming this situation. In fact, it led me to an important
[00:02:59] conclusion. That the Sudanese people
[00:03:02] possess the determination and
[00:03:07] question for this large scale of the will resulting from the deep experience of these
[00:03:11] look at the experiences of many people, extending for millions destruction that occurred in of years, that they are a people who do not give up
[00:03:15] and are capable of rising from
[00:03:18] the rubble with certainty, no matter how great the challenges are. So what I saw today
[00:03:22] عظمتها فشاهدته اليوم
[00:03:25] production and expand on Sudan TV, this transformation and this will
[00:03:28] and this determination that makes us
[00:03:31] predict that the future will be better, God willing. It is
[00:03:36] And I think this a stage where all efforts must be combined.
[00:03:42] a solution to this
[00:03:42] was one of first, at the national groups in this There are hands carrying weapons to protect the land and honor, and other hands working for construction and reconstruction
[00:03:46] and bringing life back to all aspects of life. Thank you, doctor, for
[00:03:49] this introduction. We begin our episode for today with
[00:03:52] the "Axis of Events" with our first file: the Ministry of Energy and Mining.
[00:03:56] Maintenance
[00:03:59] in the implementation of these projects. We conclude this used, especially in and operating teams at the Sudanese Electricity Generation Company are able to
[00:04:02] bring back a number of thermal generation units. The Ministry of
[00:04:07] customs, and taxes. Was it Energy and Mining stated that maintenance and operating teams
[00:04:12] threats and the continuation of the war in the capacity of workers in this at the Sudanese Electricity Generation Company committee now at this are able to bring back a number of
[00:04:14] thermal generation units to be added to the national grid
[00:04:18] after the fire that broke out at
[00:04:20] is a partner in many the Merowe Dam power station, which led to the dam's power supply
[00:04:23] being out of service. It added in a statement that
[00:04:26] the operation and connection of a number of generation units within the network,
[00:04:30] the world must after completing the technical procedures and necessary maintenance work, contributed
[00:04:34] to strengthening the stability of the electrical network
[00:04:38] by the government and reducing the effects of the Merowe Dam being out of service, noting that cable
[00:04:43] services in accessories and complementary the international connection equipment are on their way to the dam. Welcome again,
[00:04:46] Dr. Osman. How
[00:04:48] to do to preserve did you follow the efforts of the Ministry so that we ensure that this of Energy and Mining to restore thermal
[00:04:52] generation stations to the national grid after this major
[00:04:57] activity at this problem, which affected various states in
[00:05:01] Sudan? Yes, Professor
[00:05:04] and then we begin to address Mayada, we know, and all the Sudanese people
[00:05:07] know, that the major challenges
[00:05:09] that the Sudanese society and people
[00:05:12] have gone through were enormous,
[00:05:15] but every time, he proves that he is capable
[00:05:19] of developing solutions and overcoming
[00:05:23] these problems, whether by determination, effort, or coordination
[00:05:26] of efforts. We know that
[00:05:29] electricity is a
[00:05:33] very necessary condition for people's lives, and
[00:05:37] it is a basis for all
[00:05:40] reconstruction programs. What happened at the Merowe
[00:05:44] Dam, and
[00:05:47] regardless of what these
[00:05:50] situations led to, but
[00:05:52] the ability of electricity to find
[00:05:56] sources that maintain a reasonable
[00:06:01] electricity supply in some
[00:06:03] areas, this is something that
[00:06:08] the ability to
[00:06:10] find solutions. for sudden
[00:06:14] solutions or difficult
[00:06:17] problems. Therefore, I think these efforts are
[00:06:21] efforts that we hope will be integrated in
[00:06:25] order to move forward
[00:06:28] in a way that ensures an electricity supply until
[00:06:32] the dam is restarted
[00:06:36] and the supply is maintained
[00:06:39] in a good way. But in any case,
[00:06:42] I think
[00:06:46] the continuation of the electricity supply
[00:06:49] and under a very precise organization
[00:06:53] is necessary
[00:06:58] at the present time. Okay, Dr. Osman, in general, how do you view
[00:07:01] or assess
[00:07:04] the future of the energy sector in Sudan
[00:07:07] and what is required of it currently to solve these
[00:07:11] problems quickly? The power outage
[00:07:14] and its consequences and effects on all sectors is a major problem
[00:07:17] facing all Sudanese in all states of Sudan. Yes,
[00:07:21] we know
[00:07:24] and are experiencing
[00:07:27] the major problems that the electricity
[00:07:30] sector has gone through and is still going through. That is, we
[00:07:34] noticed that electricity, of course,
[00:07:38] is a basis for life, and therefore,
[00:07:41] Sudan targeted the electricity sector as
[00:07:45] of the channels that
[00:07:48] can directly affect
[00:07:51] the lives of citizens because all life has become dependent
[00:07:55] But
[00:07:59] sector, whether it is the direct
[00:08:03] targeting or
[00:08:06] the pattern of the
[00:08:09] sector is experiencing, we noticed a
[00:08:12] constant pattern that occurs every time. So this
[00:08:16] really requires the existence of appropriate
[00:08:19] technical
[00:08:22] capabilities that
[00:08:25] are capable of overcoming
[00:08:28] problems or finding solutions
[00:08:30] to problems at the required time. And we know
[00:08:34] that electricity in Sudan has a long
[00:08:37] history and has gone through various
[00:08:40] development stages, and
[00:08:42] also the experience has also told
[00:08:45] us about what this sector has been subjected to and what
[00:08:49] the technical
[00:08:52] sector have been subjected to in the past. So this the main
[00:08:56] problems in the electricity
[00:09:00] sector. In addition to
[00:09:04] the attention to this sector
[00:09:07] and the importance of this sector should be elevated
[00:09:10] to the top of priorities. Because the priorities of the citizen
[00:09:14] and the life of the citizen have become largely
[00:09:18] linked to electricity.
[00:09:20] Therefore, increasing
[00:09:23] sector and developing
[00:09:26] networks, whether for distribution
[00:09:30] or transmission or generation
[00:09:33] of electricity, should be
[00:09:37] a matter of great concern. I think that
[00:09:40] there is indeed a specialized electricity
[00:09:44] administration, but in light of
[00:09:47] the exceptional circumstances that Sudanese society
[00:09:50] is currently going through, in issues
[00:09:54] or services, any impact on them
[00:09:57] causes a very big disruption in people's lives and halts the pace of
[00:10:01] life. Therefore,
[00:10:02] attention to some
[00:10:06] sectors that are directly linked to the lives of citizens
[00:10:09] should be elevated to
[00:10:13] the level of national issues, meaning
[00:10:15] fundamental issues that receive
[00:10:19] attention at the highest levels.
[00:10:21] Therefore, all capabilities
[00:10:25] and needs for this sector must be provided
[00:10:28] to the extent that preserves
[00:10:31] this supreme national interest. So we have no
[00:10:34] greater interest than to preserve the lives of
[00:10:37] our citizens and to
[00:10:41] prepare the environment for citizens who
[00:10:44] have
[00:10:47] the land, some displaced and some refugees. Therefore, I
[00:10:51] think the general policy that the state is pursuing
[00:10:55] is to stabilize
[00:10:58] services, and one of the important services is
[00:11:01] electricity. Therefore, I think the problems
[00:11:04] in the electricity sector must be
[00:11:07] solved radically
[00:11:10] and be given sufficient attention
[00:11:13] because we have witnessed
[00:11:16] any impact on this service that directly
[00:11:19] affects people's lives and therefore affects
[00:11:23] the state's plans, programs, and policies that
[00:11:26] it is currently implementing in this exceptional stage
[00:11:30] of Sudan's life. So, Dr. Osman, it is known that Sudan's crisis or
[00:11:34] Sudan's electricity crisis is a heavy legacy from
[00:11:37] years ago. In your opinion, how
[00:11:40] can we, in the future, benefit from alternative
[00:11:43] energy projects that have proven
[00:11:46] to be a very suitable solution for many electricity
[00:11:49] problems in Sudan after
[00:11:52] alternative energy and many citizens
[00:11:55] in different states of Sudan. How can we look for
[00:11:58] alternatives for of course, we have noticed
[00:12:02] that this is a solution
[00:12:05] citizens have resorted to, and many
[00:12:09] service institutions have resorted to.
[00:12:13] It was a necessary condition to accelerate
[00:12:16] the process of return and the re-establishment
[00:12:21] the national capital or even in
[00:12:25] other cities that are
[00:12:28] stable. Therefore, I think alternative energy is
[00:12:31] clean energy, free from
[00:12:36] sector, we noticed that a decision was issued recently
[00:12:40] to exempt the basic
[00:12:43] inputs for solar energy, for example,
[00:12:47] from customs duties. I think this
[00:12:50] is a encouraging step
[00:12:53] for citizens to use
[00:12:57] alternative energy. Therefore, I
[00:13:02] the policy, and I believe it is so. From customs
[00:13:06] for citizens or for companies working in
[00:13:09] the field of alternative energy? Of course, this is for citizens.
[00:13:13] Why
[00:13:16] the end, are
[00:13:19] customs fees imposed on any
[00:13:23] imports. In the end, it falls
[00:13:26] on the citizen. So this determines the price.
[00:13:30] Yes, the price of this service. Therefore, I think
[00:13:33] exempting it, whether for individuals
[00:13:36] or for importing entities, just as
[00:13:39] there was an exemption for agricultural inputs,
[00:13:43] I think this is one of the things that encourages us. When we exempt agricultural inputs,
[00:13:47] we encourage people to increase
[00:13:50] agricultural production. And likewise,
[00:13:53] energy helps it
[00:13:56] spread over a large area.
[00:14:01] path is a reasonable path, and a large part
[00:14:04] of the citizens have now found
[00:14:07] issue, by the way. It's true, and even in the midst of
[00:14:11] the power outages that occur or the planned
[00:14:14] outages of the electricity grid,
[00:14:18] we have found solar energy widely
[00:14:23] service institutions. For example, hospitals,
[00:14:26] health centers,
[00:14:30] state institutions, institutions where
[00:14:34] power outages cause very big problems. We will stop at
[00:14:38] this point in this section, Dr. Osman, and we will move on,
[00:14:41] dear viewers, to the second file. Member of the Sovereignty Council
[00:14:45] Abdullah Yahya confirms the state's commitment to supporting
[00:14:48] reconstruction efforts to achieve the goals of the New Urban
[00:14:52] Agenda. Member of the Transitional Sovereignty Council, Abdullah
[00:14:55] Yahya Ahmed, affirmed the government's appreciation for the role of the National
[00:14:59] Council for Urban Development in formulating urban development policies
[00:15:03] to build a modern and stable Sudan.
[00:15:06] He reiterated the state's full commitment to supporting
[00:15:09] reconstruction efforts in cooperation between state institutions,
[00:15:13] the private sector, and regional and international partners
[00:15:16] to achieve the goals of the New Urban Agenda
[00:15:20] and sustainable development. His Excellency stated, in his
[00:15:22] address yesterday, at the opening of the 15th
[00:15:26] session of the National Council for Urban Development, that
[00:15:29] the country is going through a pivotal stage that requires
[00:15:33] uniting national efforts to reconstruct what the war destroyed
[00:15:36] and to build the human being before urban areas and to establish the foundations
[00:15:40] of sustainable development. The member of the Sovereignty Council said that
[00:15:43] nations are not built with money only, but are built
[00:15:47] with the will and sincerity of their sons and daughters, pointing
[00:15:50] out that reconstruction is a comprehensive
[00:15:53] national project that aims to revive cities, restore
[00:15:56] services, prepare the environment for the return of citizens, and enhance
[00:16:00] production and investment opportunities. Dr.
[00:16:04] Osman, the reconstruction file requires massive funding.
[00:16:07] In your opinion, what is the plan to finance a comprehensive
[00:16:10] national project of this magnitude? Are there national
[00:16:14] funds for reconstruction and investments, or
[00:16:17] are there plans to seek investments
[00:16:21] from Sudanese funders or
[00:16:25] foreign investments to support this matter within Sudan quickly,
[00:16:29] because in this stage, we need reconstruction
[00:16:32] and the return of life quickly, especially in the safe
[00:16:36] areas? Of course,
[00:16:40] the destruction inflicted by the rebellious
[00:16:43] militia on the country
[00:16:46] is great, and this
[00:16:49] destruction affected
[00:16:52] all components of society, whether
[00:16:55] its institutions, its
[00:16:58] urban buildings, or
[00:17:01] its archaeological and historical
[00:17:04] heritage and cultural memory.
[00:17:08] And even the Sudanese
[00:17:10] experience,
[00:17:13] what distinguishes it from things related to humanity,
[00:17:17] such as tolerance or values, all these things
[00:17:21] were destroyed. Therefore, reconstruction,
[00:17:23] as the member of the Sovereignty Council indicated, that
[00:17:27] the human being
[00:17:31] is a very significant indication that
[00:17:34] money alone is not enough. The human being himself,
[00:17:37] even the human psyche, was shattered.
[00:17:41] The children who witnessed
[00:17:44] the most heinous crimes that occurred in the neighborhoods or
[00:17:48] in front of their eyes. All of this, the historical
[00:17:51] Sudan was shattered in a
[00:17:55] big way. Therefore, reconstruction and reconstruction
[00:17:59] efforts are extremely important.
[00:18:03] So if we look at
[00:18:06] the destruction and aggression that took place,
[00:18:09] it was not just
[00:18:12] through the use of the sinful Sudanese hands
[00:18:16] that caused these damages to the country,
[00:18:19] but it was also with allies, whether they were local
[00:18:23] politicians or at the regional level
[00:18:26] or at the global level. Therefore, the extent
[00:18:29] of the destruction is great.
[00:18:31] So what are the channels
[00:18:34] and resources that we might
[00:18:37] need for the reconstruction of this huge
[00:18:41] scale? Yes, that is the real
[00:18:46] the country. And if we
[00:18:49] countries, the state alone,
[00:18:52] its capabilities are not enough
[00:18:56] for reconstruction, because the image that
[00:18:59] was shattered, and it is a cumulative
[00:19:02] thing of the country's wealth
[00:19:05] over many long years
[00:19:08] and development that continued for long periods.
[00:19:10] Therefore, the destruction inflicted upon it
[00:19:14] requires
[00:19:17] level, that the efforts of all
[00:19:21] Sudanese people
[00:19:23] be integrated, each according to his ability
[00:19:27] or area of interest, whether
[00:19:30] the state or the private sector.
[00:19:33] That is, this integration must be achieved.
[00:19:37] That is, the different roles must be integrated
[00:19:40] with each other and lead us to a result that helps in the
[00:19:44] reconstruction process. Also,
[00:19:46] Sudan is a country from the countries of the world,
[00:19:49] and whether at the regional level or at
[00:19:52] the international level, it
[00:19:57] regional and international
[00:20:00] organizations. And these bodies that
[00:20:03] regulate the world order. So the aggression that Sudan witnessed,
[00:20:08] contribute to the reconstruction of Sudan, whether
[00:20:11] through financial institutions
[00:20:15] and financial institutions at
[00:20:18] level or even at the state level, bilateral
[00:20:22] relations or at the regional level. Therefore, I
[00:20:25] think the matter requires us
[00:20:28] to organize
[00:20:31] Sudan's diplomatic
[00:20:34] level to attract funding
[00:20:38] to support various investments and
[00:20:41] reconstruction internally and with all transparency. How
[00:20:44] will the Sudanese state deal with conflicting
[00:20:47] interests
[00:20:50] between private
[00:20:53] companies and the state in
[00:20:56] reconstruction contracts to ensure that this matter proceeds
[00:20:59] smoothly and
[00:21:01] fairly between government companies
[00:21:05] and private sector companies? Of course, this is an important
[00:21:08] issue, because there is a lot of talk sometimes
[00:21:12] about the nature
[00:21:13] of the composition or the administrative
[00:21:17] mind and the organizational mind.
[00:21:20] In a country like Sudan, its components
[00:21:23] may be based on foundations that
[00:21:26] have not reached the level
[00:21:30] of complete objectivity or strict
[00:21:32] methodology. Therefore, I think we
[00:21:35] are pushed by the events
[00:21:39] and developments that our country is currently experiencing,
[00:21:42] and this is something that people rely on
[00:21:45] with hope in that
[00:21:49] it will pursue a policy and
[00:21:53] methods that ensure justice
[00:21:56] and ensure high efficiency
[00:21:59] in creating balanced opportunities between
[00:22:03] different sectors, whether at the private sector level
[00:22:07] or at the state level and state companies.
[00:22:10] And this matter is actually regulated by law.
[00:22:14] That is, how contracts are awarded
[00:22:17] to companies, whether local,
[00:22:20] national, or foreign. And the Ministry
[00:22:23] of Finance has systems capable.
[00:22:26] Laws exist, but is there oversight over these laws
[00:22:30] to implement the issue of reconstruction
[00:22:33] between government companies and private sector companies?
[00:22:37] Of course, this is an important question, as people sometimes talk
[00:22:40] about the legislative structure that regulates
[00:22:43] all relationships
[00:22:47] within society, especially those of an economic nature.
[00:22:51] That is available and exists, and sometimes people talk about
[00:22:54] the will, meaning the availability of true
[00:22:56] will
[00:22:59] to apply the law and adhere
[00:23:02] to regulations and procedures. But
[00:23:05] I think people sometimes talk about
[00:23:09] these issues from afar.
[00:23:13] I think talking from afar
[00:23:16] sometimes may not be accurate.
[00:23:20] And things like this, the state always
[00:23:23] fulfills the procedures through
[00:23:26] the system of institutions specialized in this
[00:23:30] activity. That is, oversight of work is a
[00:23:34] necessary matter. Announcing the work is a necessary
[00:23:37] matter. Fulfilling the required
[00:23:41] conditions that ensure efficiency
[00:23:43] in implementing
[00:23:45] projects as required, according to the conditions announced by the state, is
[00:23:49] a required matter. So in any case, I think
[00:23:53] the awareness that has been created for people now in
[00:23:56] light of the current war conditions
[00:23:59] is sufficient
[00:24:02] to make us adhere
[00:24:05] to reasonable limits in managing
[00:24:09] the reconstruction process. And we are currently talking
[00:24:13] about institutions or
[00:24:15] large reconstruction projects
[00:24:19] that have not yet been implemented
[00:24:22] or are currently under consideration
[00:24:25] and preparation, or even some projects have
[00:24:29] been contracted, but
[00:24:32] the work in them has not been completed. So all
[00:24:35] of this is subject to oversight,
[00:24:38] and activating oversight is
[00:24:42] a necessary matter to ensure transparency,
[00:24:45] integrity, and justice
[00:24:49] file, doctor. Dr. Osman, with a question that I think is important: What are the biggest
[00:24:52] challenges facing the construction sector or reconstruction
[00:24:55] projects in Sudan? Is it funding, corruption,
[00:24:59] or the continuation of security
[00:25:02] Sudan? Well, reconstruction
[00:25:05] is the biggest
[00:25:09] challenge facing it now.
[00:25:12] It is providing the reasons
[00:25:15] for stability for the citizen,
[00:25:17] and this is the main
[00:25:21] actor in reconstruction operations. So I
[00:25:24] think reconstruction projects
[00:25:28] primarily need to stabilize basic
[00:25:33] Sudanese society citizen
[00:25:37] who is present is able to play his role,
[00:25:40] and even the migrant citizen, whether
[00:25:44] a technician or a financier
[00:25:47] or a capitalist, returns to
[00:25:51] this country
[00:25:54] other challenges. There are very big challenges.
[00:25:57] That is, everything you mentioned is considered a challenge,
[00:26:01] because we cannot say that this is the main
[00:26:05] challenge. If we overcome
[00:26:09] it, but
[00:26:11] the system or the group of interconnected
[00:26:14] challenges are interconnected. That is, if
[00:26:18] money is the basis for us to provide money,
[00:26:21] money itself
[00:26:25] is the entry point for corruption. And if
[00:26:28] we talk about corruption,
[00:26:31] we find that corruption
[00:26:34] money
[00:26:37] which are not among the priorities
[00:26:41] as required. That is, if we were just talking
[00:26:44] about
[00:26:47] contracts, if money
[00:26:50] can lead to
[00:26:54] commitments to those with influence and not to those with competence
[00:26:58] and ability, this is if there are corrupt people. The corrupt
[00:27:04] does not follow correct procedures, and sometimes
[00:27:08] the process may occur in
[00:27:10] the framework of formal compliance
[00:27:13] with the objective conditions for these things. Therefore,
[00:27:17] fighting corruption, of course, is clear. Fighting corruption
[00:27:20] requires a firm commitment to applying
[00:27:23] the law. By the way, the absence of law is what allows
[00:27:28] wrong directions that contradict the
[00:27:37] application of the law on the ground. Of course, this is very
[00:27:40] important, and the existence of oversight bodies that are
[00:27:43] independent ensures that things
[00:27:46] will go smoothly. So in any case, I think reconstruction
[00:27:50] faces great challenges,
[00:27:54] but the challenge
[00:27:58] the workers here at the TV station, as we said at the beginning
[00:28:00] of this
[00:28:02] and the
[00:28:08] small sectors and people, when they face great
[00:28:12] challenges, God willing. We move on to the third file. The Prime
[00:28:15] Minister launches the work of the National Committee for Economic
[00:28:19] Management. The Prime Minister, Professor Kamal Idris, launched
[00:28:23] the work of the National Committee for Economic Management
[00:28:26] in Khartoum, in the presence of the Minister of Economy
[00:28:30] and the Special Representative of the President,
[00:28:32] Dr. Hussein Al-Khalifa Al-Siddiq Al-Hafyan, and the Prime Minister's advisor, Nizar
[00:28:36] Abdullah Muhammad, and the Governor of the Central Bank of Sudan, and the Secretary
[00:28:40] General of the Tax Chamber, and the Directors of Customs, Specifications,
[00:28:43] and the Central Authority of the Capital Markets Authority
[00:28:47] and a number of related parties. The Prime
[00:28:51] Minister emphasized the importance of the work of this committee
[00:28:54] for economic management in these exceptional circumstances
[00:28:57] that the country is going through. The meeting approved
[00:29:00] the tasks and terms of reference of the committee
[00:29:02] and its working methodology during the coming period. The committee aims
[00:29:06] to maintain overall economic stability, including
[00:29:10] curbing inflation, stabilizing the exchange rate,
[00:29:13] accelerating sustainable economic growth,
[00:29:16] increasing national productivity, and strengthening productive sectors
[00:29:19] and increasing local production, in addition to increasing
[00:29:23] exports and foreign currency resources, enhancing investor
[00:29:27] confidence and the competitiveness of the private sector, supporting food
[00:29:30] security, and achieving balanced and sustainable development.
[00:29:34] It is worth noting that the National Committee for Economic
[00:29:38] Management is considered an executive committee for making
[00:29:41] and implementing decisions, and its scope of work extends
[00:29:44] to include financial policies, monetary policies, production,
[00:29:48] trade, the external sector, investment, employment,
[00:29:52] food security, energy, digital
[00:29:54] transformation, and related structural reforms.
[00:29:57] Dr. Othman, you
[00:30:01] may have inaugurated the national economy management structure
[00:30:04] in the presence of all ministers of the economic sector, the Central Bank,
[00:30:09] necessary to establish this new
[00:30:14] time? And in your opinion, what was missing
[00:30:18] from the previous working mechanisms
[00:30:21] in the previous period? The truth is that this
[00:30:24] topic is very important to me,
[00:30:28] and there are ideas behind it that we
[00:30:31] should stop at and analyze
[00:30:34] properly. It reflects
[00:30:37] the efforts currently being made
[00:30:40] to move between options
[00:30:43] as a result of the feeling that
[00:30:47] there is work that we need
[00:30:51] the economy and stop the economic deterioration,
[00:30:54] the collapse of the currency, and the rampant
[00:30:58] inflation.