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[00:00:01] The National
[00:00:03] in the country. Committee for Economic Management was inaugurated, with the presence of all ministers of the
[00:00:07] in his meeting with economic sector, the Central Bank, Customs, and Taxes. Was it necessary to establish this
[00:00:11] new committee
[00:00:13] what was happening now, at this time, and in your opinion, what was lacking
[00:00:16] in the previous work mechanisms
[00:00:21] qualities in
[00:00:21] against in the previous period? Frankly, this issue
[00:00:25] is very important
[00:00:26] Indeed, a large number to me, and it is backed by ideas
[00:00:30] that we should stop at
[00:00:33] of the change in the balance of power in and analyze
[00:00:38] illusions have been dispelled. Therefore, I view committee or this correctly. It reflects the efforts currently being made by the government
[00:00:41] from to move between options. The result is the feeling
[00:00:45] that there is work that we need
[00:00:48] to do to preserve
[00:00:51] the economy, to stop the economic deterioration,
[00:00:54] the collapse happening regarding the currency, the rampant
[00:00:58] inflation, and the things that are needed
[00:01:02] for the citizens' existence, especially in the return to Sudan.
[00:01:06] So I believe
[00:01:09] that this matter suggests the idea that
[00:01:13] an
[00:01:15] exceptional situation in
[00:01:19] Sudan needs
[00:01:24] through the member states of an authority where
[00:01:26] the issues
[00:01:30] are specific, and coordination
[00:01:33] and integration among all
[00:01:37] state institutions are necessary.
[00:01:40] That is, no
[00:01:43] that it wants to protect in institution should work in isolation from other institutions. We
[00:01:46] noticed that this did not
[00:01:49] directly
[00:01:53] Union members refrain from translate into tangible achievements in the lives of citizens.
[00:01:56] and there are institutions there Therefore, I believe that the government now feels
[00:02:00] that it needs to
[00:02:03] Sudanese people and preserve gather all efforts
[00:02:05] and direct them towards the lives
[00:02:09] of citizens, because when we talk
[00:02:12] about the economy in this sense,
[00:02:15] I honestly cannot
[00:02:19] with good tidings from understand
[00:02:21] and positions based that this new form
[00:02:24] of this council is a replacement
[00:02:28] for existing
[00:02:31] and any tensions that occur in institutions, whether it is the economic sector in the Council of Ministers
[00:02:35] or the relevant ministries in this matter.
[00:02:40] And if you noticed, this If you notice, this issue links monetary policies
[00:02:42] with policies. What do you think if we talk
[00:02:46] about the timing, why this particular timing
[00:02:48] for establishing this
[00:02:50] war of aggression that was waged against committee? This is exactly the analysis
[00:02:56] support that the militia received we want to reach this result, because the
[00:02:58] everyone who watched this government feels that something should
[00:03:01] be done, because the observations
[00:03:05] support provided by of economic indicators in people's lives,
[00:03:08] in
[00:03:10] stability in people's stability,
[00:03:12] Khartoum in the escalation of
[00:03:13] external aggression against return operations, in the start
[00:03:16] of investments, in the start of reconstruction projects
[00:03:20] and Conflict Escalation in Sudan" Act. is essential. There is a feeling that
[00:03:23] work should be done.
[00:03:26] involved in this In your opinion, what is required of this committee now and in the near future
[00:03:31] to facilitate the lives of citizens and
[00:03:34] to achieve the goals of forming this committee on the ground?
[00:03:38] This committee, with this
[00:03:42] composition that we mentioned includes the Bank
[00:03:45] of Sudan, the Ministry of Finance, and all the different ministries, and in
[00:03:49] the end, it is linked to the citizen's livelihood.
[00:03:52] after the issuance of this That is,
[00:03:55] grave violations the effort of this committee should
[00:03:59] the beginning of the war on April 15, be aimed at raising the standard of living for people, because we,
[00:04:03] in comparison with this situation, for example, if we compare
[00:04:08] the war and the perpetrators of crimes in the progress made
[00:04:11] by the army and
[00:04:13] Osman, in your opinion, what are the implications of this by the Sudanese society in repelling the militia, the country is now witnessing
[00:04:17] great victories and great progress
[00:04:20] on the ground. And this
[00:04:24] requires stability
[00:04:27] in people's lives,
[00:04:31] in people's livelihoods, and in preparing the means of life in the liberated communities.
[00:04:34] That is, if we look at
[00:04:37] the recent victories that occurred in the North
[00:04:40] Kordofan region, these cities also need
[00:04:43] revitalization, they need
[00:04:47] their goodness in life to be breathed into them again, because this rebellion
[00:04:49] has caused destruction and devastation to everything.
[00:04:53] Therefore, the government, the government of hope, now feels that
[00:04:58] the movement. Our forces in a great work awaits it.
[00:05:00] That is, it needs to keep up with the developments on the ground,
[00:05:04] held on Tuesday in and now everyone is talking about the victory being
[00:05:08] very close. So the people are facing
[00:05:12] the big battle, the battle of establishing life
[00:05:16] and the battle of providing
[00:05:19] means of stability for citizens, because even now, in the past few days,
[00:05:22] people are still talking about the humanitarian situation
[00:05:26] in some cities in North Kordofan or
[00:05:30] Darfur. So all of this means that we
[00:05:33] need to confirm
[00:05:37] or provide
[00:05:39] security for people's lives
[00:05:43] and livelihoods. So this is the big challenge now. This
[00:05:47] council is concerned with activating
[00:05:51] the different energies
[00:05:53] of the state to protect people's lives
[00:05:56] and improve people's lives, because daily
[00:06:00] needs are increasing. It's true that we will conclude
[00:06:04] with a question, and in brief, the war is still
[00:06:07] ongoing, and the country is going through a critical turning point at economic,
[00:06:10] security, and political levels. In your opinion, what are the available
[00:06:14] resources to finance the plans of this committee
[00:06:16] to implement the required tasks on the ground?
[00:06:20] Of course, the committee has now unified the issues
[00:06:23] it raised, providing foreign
[00:06:26] currency resources. That is, providing foreign currency resources is the first
[00:06:30] thing that is done
[00:06:32] by developing exports. That is, developing
[00:06:36] exports, organizing
[00:06:38] exports,
[00:06:40] and combating all smuggling operations
[00:06:44] of Sudan's wealth and preserving it so that it
[00:06:47] directly benefits the state treasury. This is
[00:06:51] one of the resources. Our
[00:06:54] self-sufficiency from all our different resources
[00:06:56] on the surface and in the depths of the earth,
[00:07:00] that is, it must be developed in a proper way, and it can be a significant
[00:07:04] source of foreign currency income. There is another very important
[00:07:07] source of foreign currency which is expatriate
[00:07:10] workers. That is, Sudanese expatriate workers.
[00:07:14] If we put in place a system
[00:07:17] of incentives to attract
[00:07:19] the savings of expatriates and the remittances
[00:07:23] of expatriates and the investments of expatriates,
[00:07:27] this could constitute a very important source of foreign
[00:07:30] currency. In some countries,
[00:07:33] it exceeds the revenues of industrial production or
[00:07:36] technological production or agricultural production. And in Sudan's
[00:07:39] experience, this exists. That is, Sudan in certain
[00:07:43] years, the remittances of expatriates
[00:07:46] reached six or nine billion dollars annually.
[00:07:50] Therefore, I think now this sector
[00:07:54] and we know the stance that
[00:07:57] expatriate workers and expatriates took during the
[00:08:03] Sudanese society. And I hope for their efforts, Dr.
[00:08:06] They are a fundamental base for Sudanese society, and therefore
[00:08:10] their money, we will set policies
[00:08:13] on how to employ and benefit from expatriate remittances, God willing.
[00:08:16] We hope that all these efforts will be crowned
[00:08:19] with success. Let's move to the fourth file, our viewers,
[00:08:22] an American law to prevent
[00:08:25] Sudan. The Senate approved a new law called
[00:08:29] the "External Aggression Prevention
[00:08:33] The law is sponsored by prominent members
[00:08:37] of both the Republican and Democratic parties, and aims
[00:08:40] to stop the war and punish those who commit
[00:08:43] crimes and violations. The law also stipulates
[00:08:46] the need to combat external interference
[00:08:50] and military support. The law also included the need
[00:08:53] for strict monitoring of the arms embargo imposed by
[00:08:56] the United Nations on Darfur. And in terms
[00:08:59] of human rights, the draft law requests
[00:09:03] the State Department to prepare periodic reports on
[00:09:08] committed since the outbreak of the war on April 15,
[00:09:11] 2023, including children, sexual violence,
[00:09:15] starvation, and targeting civilians, medical facilities,
[00:09:18] places of worship, and obstructing the access
[00:09:22] of humanitarian aid. Dr.
[00:09:26] rare partisan consensus on Sudan and
[00:09:29] this law to stop the war and external interventions
[00:09:33] at this time? In my opinion, this
[00:09:37] is a positive development, despite our full
[00:09:41] knowledge that American
[00:09:44] policy in dealing with the Sudanese
[00:09:47] file has been governed by
[00:09:51] ideas since 2023 that have not changed
[00:09:54] significantly. And since
[00:09:58] we are a people currently subjected to
[00:10:01] aggression and are defending
[00:10:04] ourselves, any international
[00:10:07] efforts in this world
[00:10:11] are considered by us
[00:10:14] to be positive as long as
[00:10:16] our sovereignty
[00:10:18] and our
[00:10:22] country are respected. Therefore, I believe this
[00:10:25] development, if we look at the recent
[00:10:28] period, the American president,
[00:10:32] the Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Salman, said
[00:10:36] that he did not know in Sudan.
[00:10:40] But we and the whole world know that
[00:10:44] this war waged Sudan
[00:10:47] has many parties involved.
[00:10:51] of those involved were convinced that the war
[00:10:55] would end with the installation of the militia in Sudanese
[00:10:58] society. However, all these
[00:11:03] this development
[00:11:06] the military progress that the army
[00:11:09] has made in the recent period in North Kordofan.
[00:11:13] Regarding America's stance since the beginning of the war in Sudan on April 15,
[00:11:16] 2013, America's stance was a governing
[00:11:20] and judicial one. But I just told you the story about the president who said he didn't know what was happening,
[00:11:23] especially yes.
[00:11:28] So this progress that has occurred
[00:11:32] on the ground has begun to change many things.
[00:11:35] It seems to me now that ideas have begun
[00:11:38] to change among many parties, including America
[00:11:41] itself. Now, America wants
[00:11:43] to move to consider the Sudan
[00:11:47] file instead of political
[00:11:50] comments and views tied
[00:11:53] to the interactions that were tied to the movement on the ground
[00:11:57] back and forth, so that it becomes an issue
[00:12:01] that the American community looks at according to its self-interests
[00:12:04] or according to American interests
[00:12:08] the region. Therefore, the fact that the matter turns into legislation
[00:12:12] or turns into a law makes it a fixed matter
[00:12:16] that does not change. A law becomes a law,
[00:12:21] that sponsor this law and respect its implementation. Therefore, I
[00:12:25] believe that this view is considered
[00:12:28] very positive
[00:12:31] for the Sudan issue at the present time. The law is named "Preventing External
[00:12:35] Aggression." In your opinion, does America want
[00:12:38] to specify certain parties to implement
[00:12:41] sanctions, especially since you are talking about common interests
[00:12:46] on interests and the field situation regarding
[00:12:49] the progress of the Sudanese Armed Forces? So this decision
[00:12:52] indicates that
[00:12:55] America has a true understanding
[00:12:59] of the issue. That is, America is now aware that this war is supported by
[00:13:03] external parties.
[00:13:05] law is based on preventing aggression
[00:13:08] and punishing those who commit crimes.
[00:13:12] That is, the primary focus of this law
[00:13:15] is on the external and foreign
[00:13:21] in the past period, as if there is an acknowledgement that
[00:13:25] this war has prolonged and continued as a result of this
[00:13:30] foreign entities. And what will be the next step? It will be to name the parties that
[00:13:33] provide this support to implement sanctions.
[00:13:36] That is, now they want to open up a system of
[00:13:40] sanctions, and at the same time, they want to find a legal
[00:13:44] justification for classifying certain
[00:13:48] institutions and organizations
[00:13:51] project, whether they are organizations
[00:13:56] or companies or even
[00:14:01] the rebels themselves. That is, the law here allows
[00:14:05] them to name these parties and classify them as terrorist
[00:14:08] organizations to impose appropriate
[00:14:11] sanctions for these actions. And the question remains, Dr. Osman, what
[00:14:17] law? Because if we look at
[00:14:21] the laws that have been issued since
[00:14:24] 2023, and the positions that have been issued
[00:14:28] by international organizations and international bodies regarding
[00:14:33] Sudan, we find that
[00:14:35] they have not been implemented on the ground and
[00:14:38] have not found anyone to implement them on the
[00:14:41] ground. Let's move to the fifth and final file
[00:14:45] in today's episode of Axis of Events. Sudan confirms
[00:14:48] its readiness to receive the Peace and Security Council delegation of the African
[00:14:52] Union in Khartoum. Sudan confirmed its readiness for the visit
[00:14:55] of the Peace and Security Council of the African Union to Khartoum,
[00:14:59] scheduled for mid-August under the presidency of
[00:15:02] Algeria. The reception of the African delegation
[00:15:05] and facilitating its meetings with state leaders, political forces,
[00:15:08] and civil society organizations was discussed by Ambassador
[00:15:11] of Sudan to Ethiopia and Permanent Representative to the African Union
[00:15:15] and the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa, Ambassador
[00:15:18] Al-Zein Ibrahim Hussein, with the Chairperson of the African Union Commission,
[00:15:22] Mahmoud Ali Yusuf, regarding developments in
[00:15:26] that, during a meeting
[00:15:29] the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa. Ambassador Al-Zein conveyed
[00:15:33] during the meeting an oral message from the Minister of Foreign Affairs and International
[00:15:36] Cooperation, Ambassador Mohamed Salem, regarding the latest developments
[00:15:41] What are the files that the government will focus
[00:15:44] on in these
[00:15:47] discussions with the delegation, in your opinion, Dr.
[00:15:50] Osman? Of course,
[00:15:53] I think it's an excellent step, preceded by
[00:15:56] the IGAD step. And now the African Peace
[00:15:59] and Security Council will visit Khartoum in the coming
[00:16:03] period. And this is all, of course, a result
[00:16:10] the conflict in Sudan. Yes. That is, perhaps
[00:16:14] it has become clear that
[00:16:17] the will of the Sudanese people will prevail in this war, and the Sudanese
[00:16:20] state will remain a functioning state,
[00:16:23] and its institutions have protected themselves from collapse.
[00:16:27] So all of this pushed these institutions and organizations, of which Sudan is a member,
[00:16:30] to move from
[00:16:34] old positions. That is, the old positions
[00:16:38] of these institutions, by the way, were primarily
[00:16:41] defensive
[00:16:43] about
[00:16:46] We have one minute left, and therefore I think
[00:16:49] it is very important for the Sudanese government that
[00:16:53] the visit at this time is to stop
[00:16:56] the support that this militia receives
[00:17:01] the African Union, neighbors of Sudan, who
[00:17:05] allowed the flow of
[00:17:07] weapons and the flow of mercenaries across their borders
[00:17:10] and creating
[00:17:13] problems on different borders. So I think the most important
[00:17:16] thing for the Security
[00:17:20] and African Peace and Security Council is to preserve
[00:17:22] the integrity of Sudanese state institutions and Sudanese society
[00:17:26] by ensuring that
[00:17:30] interfering in Sudanese affairs and work
[00:17:34] to establish a genuine dialogue
[00:17:38] between
[00:17:41] the Sudanese state. Finally, what is the message
[00:17:44] that Sudan wants to send to the African
[00:17:47] world specifically
[00:17:50] by holding these different meetings?
[00:17:53] That we are part of Africa and we are not separate from
[00:17:57] Africa. The problems that happen in our society, if
[00:18:00] they happen tonight, tomorrow they will spread to others,
[00:18:03] and therefore the geopolitical location of Sudan,
[00:18:09] Sudan will have repercussions on all countries
[00:18:12] of the African Union, the Horn of Africa, and even the Middle
[00:18:16] East. Therefore, I think Sudan's message is
[00:18:19] to
[00:18:22] stand with the Sudanese people and support
[00:18:25] the will of the Sudanese people, because the state of Sudan
[00:18:28] will remain standing as long as it has been
[00:18:31] established for thousands of years, God willing. Thank you very much. A final word you want to say goodbye to
[00:18:36] interview on Sudan TV.
[00:18:40] We hope that the normal return for Sudanese
[00:18:44] citizens will be organized, and that
[00:18:50] is progressing day by day in a positive direction,
[00:18:54] and that we all stand united
[00:18:57] behind our armed forces, who
[00:19:00] will achieve the great victory for the Sudanese people,
[00:19:03] and we will celebrate in all parts of Sudan the liberation.
[00:19:09] Dr. Osman Hassan Osman, academic and political analyst. Thank
[00:19:12] you very much for being with us in this episode of Axis of Events.
[00:19:16] Our viewers, accept my sincere regards and the regards of the work team, and peace
[00:19:20] be upon you and the mercy of God. Goodbye.