SUDAN — broadcast 20260920 003000 UTC 510 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:01] which the human being suffers from. This [00:00:04] call, we believe, is entirely consistent [00:00:06] with the recovery process and the transitional justice [00:00:10] process that is always part of the [00:00:14] peace, stability, and recovery from war. [00:00:18] This call is a sound call [00:00:22] that we agree with. We are with this call for surrender, and we also [00:00:25] call on all Sudanese citizens who are [00:00:28] now part of this militia [00:00:32] to hurry and surrender [00:00:35] to save themselves and to [00:00:38] reduce the losses, because in the end, these are the tears of Sudan's [00:00:44] given that there is a lot youth. This battle and this war [00:00:46] targeted Sudan and all Sudanese, yes, [00:00:50] including [00:00:53] aspect also supports the Sudanese [00:00:56] put politics aside and focus agreements who are now working in the ranks of this militia. They are the target. The idea has reached General Al-Farik. Brigadier General [00:01:00] Najmuddin, what does the assertion [00:01:03] by the head of the Sovereignty [00:01:07] Council mean that [00:01:10] their existence. This anyone carrying weapons outside the state [00:01:14] goods and trade in framework is unwelcome, [00:01:17] and carrying weapons outside the state framework is an unwelcome [00:01:20] matter? What are the implications [00:01:21] of this assertion? [00:01:24] Its implications are certainly that Sudan [00:01:30] necessary to say how much, we are talking about the rise in the exchange has paid a very high price in this battle, the Battle of Dignity, and that is because [00:01:34] of the weapons that are outside [00:01:37] the state [00:01:39] framework or outside the framework of the armed forces, specifically [00:01:42] the framework of the armed forces. I believe [00:01:45] that all the joint forces [00:01:49] of the Sudanese economy and all the forces that are currently fighting in support of the armed [00:01:53] forces, all the leaders [00:01:56] and a defeated morale in are welcoming the integration of these forces into the armed [00:02:00] forces so that the state has one strong [00:02:04] This is a very important thing that people hand that protects Sudan's borders [00:02:06] and is under a unified [00:02:09] and the stability of the economic process in [00:02:10] project. The Rapid Support Forces command supporting this that obeys this [00:02:12] command. There will be command and control that [00:02:17] and the speculation that is happening in can perform [00:02:20] forged currencies that came into are used to implement its duty clearly [00:02:22] that the conflict caused to everyone who is behind this in protecting Sudan's borders against any [00:02:25] foreign state. I believe that there is also no [00:02:29] room [00:02:32] in prices, and there is a decrease in power that affects for opening other rebellions in Sudan, because [00:02:36] Sudan has become very [00:02:38] And in weak due to this rebellion that began in [00:02:41] 1955 before Sudan's independence, [00:02:45] the monitoring teams should be new and this rebellion is still splitting [00:02:48] here and there, and movements here and there. [00:02:51] Therefore, I believe that after the Battle [00:02:54] of Dignity, Sudan must have one armed [00:02:58] force. Strong, protecting [00:03:01] Sudan's borders, preventing [00:03:04] what happened to Sudan from before 1955 [00:03:07] until this day. [00:03:10] So this is a [00:03:12] take to limit strong message, and I believe the entire Sudanese people paid [00:03:15] this very high price [00:03:19] interventions are what in the Battle of Dignity, and all [00:03:21] of that is due to these weapons that were outside [00:03:25] the framework of the armed forces and outside the state framework. Okay, [00:03:28] General, in your opinion, to what [00:03:31] extent can this position, [00:03:34] the position of carrying weapons [00:03:37] due to the war. The Arab outside official frameworks, form a basis [00:03:41] sesame also it the economic war. We have a war for post-war field, and in the economic arrangements regarding the confinement of weapons in the hands [00:03:45] of the state? First of all, I would like [00:03:48] to emphasize one thing that we are all [00:03:51] this conspiracy and the ganging in the armed movements and the joint forces [00:03:54] and all [00:03:58] is worth such and such, and news circulates, the forces that we are integrating. [00:04:00] And the implementation of the security arrangements file. The security [00:04:04] arrangements, in their entirety, ultimately [00:04:07] lead to the integration of all these forces [00:04:11] into the three regular forces known as the armed [00:04:14] forces, police forces, and security [00:04:17] forces. This means that there is no room. We are entirely [00:04:21] with this assertion. [00:04:23] and what they bring We affirm that we are moving [00:04:25] us from abroad to practice with a steady plan to integrate [00:04:27] today's episode in all these forces within the armed forces. These [00:04:29] parallel to what is happening in arrangements have made great progress. People are following many of [00:04:32] the procedures that have been taken, and we [00:04:35] contribute to are accelerating the plan to complete these procedures. From our point of view in the Sudanese Youth Movement for Change and Justice, [00:04:39] production I believe curbing smuggling that we want to emerge [00:04:42] from the war with one armed force, [00:04:46] with police forces, with security forces, all capable [00:04:49] and present everywhere in Sudan's corners to secure [00:04:53] Sudan's borders [00:04:56] I wrote a few days ago, and to secure the Sudanese people and maintain security [00:05:00] and stability [00:05:04] What can the state and work together to rebuild this [00:05:06] and interference in Sudan and protect it from any external [00:05:09] or internal threats. There is no room [00:05:13] for any future rebellion. There is a lot [00:05:17] of talk, but I affirm [00:05:19] that these arrangements are proceeding [00:05:22] steadily. All we [00:05:25] hope is that we all proceed [00:05:29] with the implementation of what was agreed upon in the security arrangements file, [00:05:32] and this leads all these forces into the ranks [00:05:36] of the armed forces according to the agreed [00:05:38] standards and the requirements for working in the ranks of the armed [00:05:42] forces. Now there are many who are now [00:05:45] providing protection for this nation in its defense. [00:05:49] Perhaps after the end of the war, there will be [00:05:52] no need for the presence of all people in the ranks of the armed [00:05:55] forces, and the criteria after that [00:05:58] will determine that. However, the priority of integration and demobilization [00:06:02] is fully agreed upon. These [00:06:07] exist, and now, with the continuation of the battle, [00:06:10] there is continuous hard work [00:06:14] in the integration process. We reassure the Sudanese people and reassure the public [00:06:17] now that these forces have no intention [00:06:20] of maintaining [00:06:23] existence, [00:06:25] no party calls for it, and we all call [00:06:29] for Sudan to be united in people [00:06:32] and land, and to have one strong [00:06:36] armed force capable of defending it [00:06:39] and protecting its people and gains. Okay, Brigadier General Najmuddin, [00:06:43] why is Al-Burhan emphasizing [00:06:46] at this particular time the rejection [00:06:48] of foreign agendas? [00:06:53] I emphasize that because everything that has befallen [00:06:56] Sudan is not from within Sudan, unfortunately. [00:07:00] I mean, all [00:07:02] the causes of this battle [00:07:05] and the management of this battle, [00:07:09] and the planning of this battle and the implementation [00:07:12] of this battle are foreign. There are known [00:07:16] countries [00:07:19] project. They are the owners of this [00:07:22] are not original to this project, nor is the United Arab Emirates [00:07:26] original to this project. Rather, all of them [00:07:31] this project, and it is known [00:07:35] grand scheme that wants Sudan not [00:07:39] to be a strong, united, [00:07:42] economic [00:07:45] the surrounding countries [00:07:48] positively and has a deterrent [00:07:50] force that prevents [00:07:54] foreign interventions. That is why [00:07:58] Sudan has remained a prisoner of these [00:08:00] external interventions. Every time it gets out of one [00:08:03] crisis, they throw it into another. [00:08:06] Every time a war ends in [00:08:09] one place, they ignite it in another. [00:08:13] Therefore, everything that is happening to Sudan [00:08:16] now is due to these external interventions, and this is what the President [00:08:20] says, and what other politicians [00:08:23] say, and what ordinary citizens [00:08:26] who have nothing to do with politics say, that external [00:08:31] affect Sudan in its security [00:08:35] and economy [00:08:44] to my guest, Brigadier General Khalid Al-Thalith. What is the practical [00:08:47] meaning, General, of the crisis resolution being [00:08:50] purely Sudanese? The meaning [00:08:54] is that the Sudanese crisis, as [00:08:57] your guest, Brigadier General Najmuddin, [00:09:00] mentioned, [00:09:04] up on Sudan is an external [00:09:07] project, not an internal project. All the tools [00:09:11] that are working are Sudanese tools, including politicians [00:09:14] and political activists, and the Rapid Support Militia [00:09:17] itself, and the forces that support [00:09:20] it, and its political incubator. [00:09:23] This project is a known project, and its mastermind [00:09:26] is known. Therefore, [00:09:29] they use various tools, militarily, [00:09:32] the Rapid Support Militia, the mercenaries, [00:09:37] this killing and so on in Sudan, and this is known. However, [00:09:41] there are also a number of activists [00:09:45] and politicians who are used by these [00:09:48] external parties to market their project, and this project, [00:09:51] if we notice, if we assume, I am [00:09:55] talking about the recent era, [00:09:58] after 2020, after the December [00:10:00] 18th glorious revolution, the external [00:10:04] project brought by the Volker group [00:10:08] was introduced. Okay, General, at this point, sorry for the interruption, but [00:10:11] how can we distinguish between international support [00:10:15] for the peace process Sudanese [00:10:19] decision-making? Support should be [00:10:23] limited [00:10:26] to the necessary assistance to create the atmosphere [00:10:30] and to help the Sudanese to address [00:10:34] the issues. We have problems that have plagued [00:10:37] all Sudanese throughout the national [00:10:40] periods after independence. [00:10:43] However, interference is an attempt to impose [00:10:47] external guardianship and choices [00:10:50] on the Sudanese people, and of course, this is completely rejected. [00:10:54] We, as Sudanese and as political forces, [00:10:57] and as the Sudanese people, are capable of addressing [00:11:00] our issues. We are capable of dialoguing [00:11:03] and framing Sudan's future in the way we want [00:11:07] and the way the Sudanese people aspire to. However, we completely reject [00:11:11] any external interference and the imposition of any [00:11:56] Welcome back to Sudan tonight. With the continuation of field developments [00:12:00] in the theaters of operations, the economic front comes [00:12:04] to the forefront of the scene, as it is one of the most prominent challenges [00:12:07] facing the state and the citizen alike. Minister of Finance, [00:12:11] Dr. Jibreel Ibrahim, affirms the ability [00:12:14] to withstand despite the repercussions of the war [00:12:18] and increasing pressures, referring to what he described as an economic [00:12:21] war and speculation in the currency market [00:12:25] aimed at weakening the state at a time when the war [00:12:28] imposes heavy burdens on production, markets, and services. [00:12:31] These statements come at a very sensitive stage, [00:12:34] as the Sudanese economy has been subjected [00:12:37] to widespread disruptions in production, trade, [00:12:41] and supply chains since the outbreak of the war, while [00:12:44] World Bank data indicates [00:12:47] a sharp contraction in output and damaged productive [00:12:51] infrastructure, trade, and services. So, will economic pressures turn into a new [00:12:55] front in the war, and to what extent can the state absorb [00:12:58] its repercussions? And how can the currency, [00:13:02] markets, and production be protected from speculation [00:13:05] and disruptions? And most importantly, [00:13:08] how can the country move from an economy of resilience [00:13:32] Tariq, when the Minister of Finance [00:13:36] speaks of an economic war, [00:13:39] what exactly is meant by this war, and what [00:13:43] are its tools? [00:13:45] The intended meaning is the media war waged by this militia after [00:13:49] its failure and defeat by the brave [00:13:52] armed forces and supporting forces. [00:13:56] They resorted to another war, which is [00:13:59] the economic war. I call [00:14:03] in the military field. Recently, [00:14:07] the rooms run from outside Sudan [00:14:10] have focused on spreading rumors about the exchange rate [00:14:14] and the deterioration of the pound, and then they write about future prices, [00:14:18] meaning things that don't happen. They say the pound today [00:14:23] and then they went to goods. They say there are crises [00:14:26] in the markets. So they create an atmosphere of pessimism [00:14:30] and an atmosphere of frustration, programmed things from known [00:14:34] rooms. And what the Minister of Finance meant [00:14:37] is the media war that tries to disrupt the economy [00:14:41] and shake the existing Sudanese [00:14:43] capabilities. So, Mr. Tariq, to what [00:14:47] extent can the currency, money market, and commodity markets [00:14:51] also become battlegrounds the military [00:14:55] field? [00:14:57] Yes, of course, the economy is important because it concerns people's [00:15:01] lives. The economy concerns people's lives. It feeds [00:15:04] them from hunger and secures them from fear. Food is very important. [00:15:08] Everyone seeks security, seeks food, and seeks [00:15:11] food and drink. These are the necessities of life and an important [00:15:15] thing, and we stand in solidarity with the suffering of the citizen, [00:15:18] and we in Hawas magazine always, I mean, today there are [00:15:21] many meetings discussing how life can [00:15:25] alleviate difficulties for the citizen. [00:15:29] do? We are with the citizen, but at the same [00:15:32] time, we will not accept, as a party supporting the armed [00:15:36] forces and standing with the national Sudan, [00:15:39] we do not accept, and we know as media analysts, [00:15:43] we know that these are things that are well-studied and planned from outside [00:15:47] Sudan to shake the Sudanese economy and cause [00:15:50] confusion. I mean, some people go and take pictures and say that shops are closed. [00:15:54] I was in the markets, and it is true that there were increases in prices and so on, [00:15:57] but there are no closed markets and there [00:16:01] are no signs of protests. People [00:16:05] are patient with what is happening, considering it [00:16:09] part of the price of the Battle of Dignity. The Sudanese citizen has always stood with the army, [00:16:12] and in our last meeting with the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, [00:16:16] the head of the Sovereignty Council, General Abdel Fattah [00:16:19] Al-Burhan, he spoke highly of the Sudanese citizen [00:16:23] and said that he was in the first line in the Battle of Dignity, standing with the armed forces [00:16:26] and supporting them. So I believe that these recent campaigns [00:16:30] targeting the economy will not achieve their goals and will [00:16:33] fail very quickly. And now, [00:16:36] the exchange rate has started to fall a lot, and there is [00:16:40] a continuous fall, because there are also some speculators who entered the markets, [00:16:44] I mean, greed and covetousness pushed them to trade [00:16:47] in the people's food and trade in consumer [00:16:51] dollars. I mean, they tried to speculate in the markets, but thank [00:16:55] God, God will help Sudan and help the Sudanese [00:16:58] citizen. Okay, Mr. Tariq, [00:17:01] are the recent increasing pressures, [00:17:05] rate in the past two days, [00:17:08] related to the military [00:17:10] developments, or is the matter a natural extension [00:17:14] of the repercussions of this war? This is [00:17:18] a clever observation from you. I can consider that it is related to [00:17:22] the armed forces achieving very great victories now in Kordofan [00:17:25] and advancing to Darfur. It is clear that there is a very [00:17:28] elaborate plan in the midst of surrender and collapse [00:17:34] the militia and surrenders [00:17:37] and a very severe panic that has reached the militia. So it is clear that these [00:17:40] economic campaigns are directed at highlighting [00:17:44] or diverting attention from the military victories that have been achieved. [00:17:48] These are the people with livelihood concerns and so on, [00:17:51] and the increases that are happening, [00:17:54] the dollar, especially since there are some [00:17:58] the markets to buy dollars with them and increase the dollar and so on. [00:18:01] But all these prices were not real, they were inflated. I mean, there was [00:18:05] inflation in prices. Today there is a decrease [00:18:10] the increase in the value of the pound, and it will continue, God willing, [00:18:14] in the coming days. Our monitoring of the market makes it clear [00:18:17] that there will be a great breakthrough in the economic [00:18:20] situation. Okay, okay, what is the difference between economic [00:18:24] pressures resulting from the war [00:18:27] and speculation that can exacerbate [00:18:31] the crisis? Well, we change it based on demand. What do [00:18:35] you really demand this dollar for? These foreign currencies are demanded [00:18:38] in cases of importing goods. I mean, you need to import [00:18:42] fuel at a certain value for importing fuel, [00:18:45] consumer goods such as flour and other things that come from outside. [00:18:47] So the decline [00:18:49] in the value of the pound has no, if we compare [00:18:52] it to the volume of demand for foreign currency, [00:18:56] we find that it is inflated beyond measure. So we immediately [00:19:00] know that there is speculation. I agree with you [00:19:03] that the war has created a difficult economic reality, [00:19:08] and that the measurement of exports, we now have many Sudanese [00:19:12] exports that have left the global market [00:19:15] dye in [00:19:18] decreased in value. Many agricultural exports [00:19:21] came out of the war. Now, the only [00:19:25] strong export is gold exports, and it is also [00:19:28] facing a lot of smuggling. I mean, gold exports have [00:19:32] a lot of smuggling. But the indicators after [00:19:36] the increases, I mean, the dollar in one day, [00:19:39] or in 24 hours, drops to these [00:19:42] numbers. This is something that [00:19:45] is clearly orchestrated and planned. [00:19:48] So, Mr. Tariq, in your opinion, what are the available [00:19:52] tools for the Ministry of Finance and the Bank of Sudan [00:19:56] to limit the disturbances in the currency [00:19:58] market? [00:20:01] First of all, providing [00:20:04] currency for basic exports, for example, [00:20:09] fuel exports and wheat exports and so on. [00:20:11] I also call for a strategic commodity portfolio. There were two portfolios, [00:20:15] first and second. Now people can think about a new portfolio, [00:20:19] a portfolio for strategic commodities with a new plan [00:20:23] to provide it. Sudan can also look for deposits to strengthen [00:20:26] the foreign currency sources within the central bank. [00:20:30] There should be existing deposits and the activation [00:20:33] of markets. I mean, the markets themselves should be monitored. [00:20:36] The existing markets for weapons and so on. It is true [00:20:39] that there is price liberalization, but I also noticed some greed [00:20:43] from some traders. I don't mean all of them. I was visiting, [00:20:47] I am now in Khartoum. I go and buy something and the next day [00:20:51] it's a completely different price, the same goods on the shelf. A few days ago, [00:20:54] I had a conversation with a grocer. I asked him, "Why [00:20:58] did you increase the price by a dollar for the same goods?" He said, "But I haven't bought from the market [00:21:01] yet." He was embarrassed and [00:21:05] then told me, "Okay, I'll give you the same price as yesterday." It's clear that there is greed among traders, [00:21:09] and these speculations, then also the security campaigns these days are important. [00:21:13] People should try to activate them, find these speculators, [00:21:17] and expose them. I mean, [00:21:21] speculation in these markets must be, it is true that [00:21:24] the security solution is not the sufficient and only [00:21:27] solution that can solve the problem, but it is also now [00:21:31] part of the solutions, [00:21:34] of speculation in the foreign currency markets, [00:21:37] it must stop. There are many indicators, but God willing, the media [00:21:43] this attention. People must, these days, [00:21:46] on the economy and confront these campaigns with such information. [00:21:54] I say that two days ago, in Hawas, we published that dollar prices [00:21:58] were such and such, and then they dropped. We do not publish campaigns [00:22:02] with lies, but with truth. Our national media is [00:22:05] professional. I salute all [00:22:08] Sudanese journalists and Sudanese satellite channels [00:22:12] and so on. It is professional media. However, the malicious [00:22:16] foreign media is confronting organized campaigns. The Sudanese economy is media that [00:22:27] all these are ideas that can have roots and [00:22:30] can contribute. Then the presence of committees is also [00:22:33] important, that there should be economic emergency rooms continuously [00:22:37] monitoring what is happening in the market and other things from the Central [00:22:40] Bank, the Ministry of Finance, the Council of Ministers, the relevant [00:22:44] ministries, the Ministry of Trade and Industry, and all [00:22:47] responsible parties. And the export of gold, I also [00:22:50] take it. [00:22:54] should fight smuggling. Gold smuggling [00:22:57] is very high. And also, government companies have a [00:23:01] role in, well, what is the way to combat gold [00:23:03] smuggling, Mr. Tariq? Well, [00:23:07] gold smuggling, first of all, monitoring the ports, then using [00:23:10] drones to monitor the gold [00:23:14] ports, and activating [00:23:17] security control over the sources of these companies themselves, [00:23:21] I mean, the miners, the gold shops. There should be strong [00:23:24] security activation, and all these export [00:23:27] ports should have very high monitoring, and the teams themselves [00:23:31] that are working should be changed. I mean, [00:23:35] teams every time. I mean, in customs and elsewhere, there should be new teams [00:23:38] for monitoring. Security monitoring is very important [00:23:41] for preventing smuggling. It is true that you cannot [00:23:44] combat smuggling by 100%, but you can reach a reasonable [00:23:48] percentage if you follow modern monitoring methods. So, Mr. [00:23:52] Tariq, these are security measures to combat [00:23:55] gold smuggling. What are the economic measures [00:23:58] that the state should [00:24:02] this smuggling? [00:24:04] Well, there are many measures. Gold is now a very important [00:24:08] source. I mean, the Bank of Sudan can be the only one that buys gold. [00:24:12] I mean, they can go back to the origin. If people are forced, let the state [00:24:16] be the only one to buy gold at a rewarding price. Let it be [00:24:19] reserves in the central bank to increase the strength of the Sudanese [00:24:22] pound. This is put forward strongly. Okay, this [00:24:26] is a solution that is put forward strongly. So, Mr. Tariq, [00:24:30] what drives these smugglers [00:24:33] to sell gold outside Sudan, [00:24:36] for example? Well, sometimes there are economic benefits, [00:24:39] and sometimes there are benefits that are also [00:24:42] against the state. There is also an important point I mentioned about the companies [00:24:46] working with foreign contracts. These are indeed contracts, [00:24:50] but the state's share is usually very small. I mean, it is common [00:24:53] knowledge that there are many companies that have contracted. [00:24:56] The contracts were made years ago, and they need [00:25:00] to be reviewed. I mean, these are indeed legal and valid contracts, [00:25:04] but the state's share of gold is usually very small. [00:25:07] So it requires reviewing the large gold [00:25:11] companies. Now, the gold produced in Sudan is very large, [00:25:14] but the state's share is usually very small. [00:25:17] I mean, Mr. Tariq, to what extent [00:25:21] can the establishment of a gold exchange in Sudan [00:25:27] and controlling [00:25:29] and benefiting from the revenues of this precious [00:25:32] metal? Well, to some extent, it can contribute, [00:25:36] but as I told you, some people are already hostile to this country. [00:25:39] They don't want the economy to recover. [00:25:42] I mean, some even get upset. [00:25:46] in my Facebook feed and so on, when we said the pound recovered [00:25:50] and that there were some gains against the dollar and so on, [00:25:53] some people were upset. I mean, it is clear that [00:25:57] some people have bad intentions towards the country and the nation. [00:26:00] They don't want the Sudanese economy to recover at all. [00:26:03] Okay, I think there is a pressing [00:26:07] and important question, which is how [00:26:09] can effective coordination be achieved between fiscal [00:26:13] policy and monetary [00:26:15] policy? [00:26:18] This is, of course, a very difficult thing. I mean, [00:26:22] for years, the central bank has always been in conflict [00:26:25] between fiscal policy and monetary policy, because the central bank's [00:26:29] policy always tends towards contraction, [00:26:32] and fiscal policy tends towards expansion, [00:26:36] and printing money and so on. So there is always a tug-of-war between [00:26:39] the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank. In circumstances like war, [00:26:43] the Central Bank must indeed print money to cover [00:26:46] salaries and the salaries of regular forces. It has many [00:26:50] tasks. However, people [00:26:52] must reach a kind of [00:26:56] consensus. I mean, even a complete consensus is difficult [00:27:00] between monetary policy and fiscal policy and the Central [00:27:04] Bank, the Ministry of Finance. But there must be an emergency room that includes all [00:27:07] ministries, not just the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank, but all these [00:27:10] economic ministries. There must be an economic team working [00:27:14] in a fully homogeneous manner, and its main concern [00:27:17] now, especially during this period, is that we are now facing a great [00:27:21] challenge. The price of the Sudanese pound must be stabilized. [00:27:24] I mean, everyone is talking. The instability in prices is a problem, [00:27:28] by the way. So we must stabilize the price. I mean, it is not [00:27:33] but at least there should be a fixed price. I mean, it should [00:27:37] be determined, because if we ask the question, who determines the price of the dollar [00:27:40] in the market now? I mean, we cannot say the Central Bank, because [00:27:44] speculators contribute a large part to determining it. I mean, [00:27:48] then they will work on them. So we must [00:27:51] take the initiative at the Central [00:27:53] Bank. Okay, Mr. Tariq, regarding [00:27:57] the issue of production, in your opinion, what are [00:27:59] the sectors that [00:28:02] should primarily have priority [00:28:05] to restore the health [00:28:09] of the Sudanese pound [00:28:12] the country? Now, at this particular [00:28:15] time, we are required to pay attention. This is something [00:28:19] that gives you very quick solutions. This is a very quick [00:28:22] solution: gold, gold, gold, then gold. [00:28:25] So we must activate the issue of gold. We should try to stop the approximation [00:28:29] that is difficult. We should increase production. We should look at [00:28:32] traditional miners and companies. The gold file [00:28:35] needs very quick and urgent intervention. [00:28:40] the near future, meaning [00:28:43] in the coming months, a plan for strategic commodities should be prepared. Unfortunately, we have now [00:28:47] lost our sesame sources. We were among the primary [00:28:51] sesame exporting countries. [00:28:54] It was very large. Now, because of [00:28:57] the added value offered [00:28:59] here and the fees, [00:29:04] then the effects of the war and [00:29:07] so on. Peanuts also exited. We had many crops that exited. But we [00:29:11] have a plan to look at agricultural products like peanuts, [00:29:15] sesame, and gum to re-manufacture them and add value [00:29:19] to them. Meaning, instead of direct [00:29:21] export, we should think about agricultural manufacturing itself, add value [00:29:25] to agricultural manufacturing, and restore Sudanese cash [00:29:28] exports to [00:29:31] their former glory and develop them. We will approach the world in a different way [00:29:34] than exporting them as raw materials. We will export them as [00:29:38] added value. Also, livestock is also active. [00:29:41] I see a plan for the Ministry of Livestock [00:29:44] for the establishment of slaughterhouses and so on. We [00:29:47] also add value [00:29:50] to livestock exports. I think these two sectors can play [00:29:54] a significant role in the future. I also believe that gold [00:29:57] itself can be the main محور. There are very important [00:30:01] main axes, such as many minerals that can be [00:30:04] discovered, and we can activate them, and people can seek [00:30:07] partnerships with very large countries [00:30:11] that can come and contribute with us in discovering these minerals [00:30:14] and developing