SUDAN — broadcast 20260920 180000 UTC 531 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] to alleviate the burdens of living on citizens primarily. [00:00:03] This is one of the essential and important questions. Thank you. [00:00:08] about the customs dollar, and Before I move on to answering this question, [00:00:11] let me just complete what we were talking about regarding the factors that [00:00:15] all the requirements in [00:00:15] millet in led to the fluctuation in the exchange rate of [00:00:19] the national currency in recent days. In [00:00:24] so that citizens can fact, rate, why when the customs the rebellion was able [00:00:32] essential goods the production of gold to print very large quantities of the national currency, some counterfeit, [00:00:34] some with real plates that were present in [00:00:39] of the form is with the government the Emirates and with a real design [00:00:46] Ibrahim, to this production, and not rely on and they were able to sell this currency extensively [00:00:47] transactions, in reality, [00:00:48] interview on "Economy in the to obtain [00:00:50] we comment on foreign currency. Yes, and this had a significant [00:00:54] impact on the exchange rate. [00:00:57] markets and be able to control In addition to that, there are [00:00:59] the product. And if we control rooms for traders who are speculating [00:01:02] at prices where in reality no one buys a single [00:01:06] a cost department in the Central Bank, dollar, but they say now additional the dollar is [00:01:09] The primary role of this 8400, and soon it will be 8500 [00:01:12] and we reached 9000. In [00:01:14] had never cultivated before in reality, no one buys anything and no one sells anything, but [00:01:17] with the intention of creating confusion. [00:01:20] we will not starve, God willing. So, in And this confusion is harmful because everyone thinks [00:01:23] if they want to preserve the value of what [00:01:26] they own [00:01:28] things may get confused, in the form of foreign currency. Or gold, then there will be a [00:01:31] rush and a search for [00:01:35] security for what [00:01:37] pounds for they own in terms of money, and this harms or causes harm and continuously feeds [00:01:41] We had in this [00:01:43] We began establishing [00:01:43] talk about this type of panic and leads to the erosion of the [00:01:46] national currency exchange rate. However, in reality, there are no [00:01:50] real purchases and no real [00:01:56] one, it should be at least 20% Therefore, sales at the prices that are mentioned, and therefore the citizen back with their reports. We started is right when he says this is fabricated, a deliberate matter [00:02:00] done for this purpose, and this is [00:02:06] throughout Khartoum State to be close Near the borders, it is economic warfare in addition to military warfare. I mean, this is the aspect we were talking about. [00:02:09] Let's move on to social support or social protection in general in [00:02:12] the country. We thank God that we [00:02:16] never stopped supporting [00:02:24] have gold, but entire Sudanese people. The state pensioners in the pensioners' fund [00:02:26] and compensates for it elsewhere. continuously, and in direct support [00:02:28] make some for citizens through [00:02:32] a free economy the Ministry of Human Resources but with and Social Development, more [00:02:33] is that you cannot than 46,000 families [00:02:36] receive direct monthly support during [00:02:40] the war. We did not stop or [00:02:42] stop paying people's salaries, but we also did not stop [00:02:46] supporting poor families. It is true that [00:02:49] for personal use applied to what they receive may not be enough but it is very important that [00:02:52] people [00:02:55] goods [00:02:55] Bank, it would be more beneficial to the expand in this area. We did not stop supporting [00:02:57] health insurance and the additional package in health [00:03:01] insurance, and praise be to God. [00:03:05] of some materials like mercury The country is also experiencing a large expansion in health [00:03:07] for personal use, because in insurance despite the problems that occurred in hospitals in various [00:03:11] locations. So we are committed to social [00:03:15] protection and we will expand [00:03:18] and we will have to use quick in that, God willing. Well, before we also delve into the gold sector, [00:03:20] we are talking about what was announced some time ago about [00:03:25] to provide this a portfolio for the agricultural sector amounting to 3 [00:03:29] for the producer or the buyer trillion pounds, and this is a large amount. We want to be reassured. [00:03:32] Has this portfolio been implemented with this figure? This is number [00:03:36] activity and an abundance one. Second, we have always said, Mr. Minister, when [00:03:39] UN reports were issued since the beginning of the war until now, and they [00:03:43] were biased and always wanted to prove that Sudan is suffering from [00:03:47] But in hunger, 25 million citizens suffering from hunger and other [00:03:50] things. But we always said that [00:03:54] Sudan will not starve and Sudan has agricultural [00:03:57] areas that can compensate for what [00:04:01] by the state reducing is close to 200 million feddans, and 25% of it has been worked so far. It has the [00:04:04] rate that this than to official ability to compensate if there were security problems in a certain [00:04:09] public sector employees entered this place. There were other alternatives for compensation. But the challenges facing [00:04:12] the current season, we are reassured about the portfolio's position, from the high prices [00:04:15] of fuel, especially diesel and production [00:04:20] some of the fees or inputs, which constitute a real decision in [00:04:21] the other hand. As you mentioned, threat to a very large sector in Sudan, which is the agricultural sector. We want [00:04:25] to reassure all farmers throughout [00:04:27] we strive to absorb them into Sudan regarding these [00:04:28] income. Therefore, it is matters, and what of this [00:04:33] for the dollar or First, the amount mentioned, [00:04:39] and has taken a package artisanal mining 3 trillion and 100 billion pounds, more than a trillion [00:04:43] pounds has been spent so far on supporting [00:04:46] the summer season, and we are still [00:04:49] continuing to support [00:04:52] other matter is that the the harvest for the summer season, and we are very [00:04:54] optimistic that there will be this is what [00:05:01] and all issues a set of has been directly supported. from the portfolio, but there are also [00:05:05] goods. Therefore, no Perhaps at are discussed. It is true that commercial banks problem with that have entered into financing agriculture in their own way [00:05:08] promise a significant decrease with huge amounts [00:05:09] on approaching this amount. [00:05:12] The situation is largely reassuring that we are also preparing [00:05:16] extensively for the winter season, which will also [00:05:19] guarantee us the second aspect of food. Currently, we [00:05:23] are very busy with the production of corn and [00:05:28] the areas during the summer season, but we also [00:05:31] focus on wheat production in the winter season and expanding its production. [00:05:35] Make sure that all production inputs are available in [00:05:38] their due time. So, financing, God willing, will be available [00:05:43] for both seasons. [00:05:45] The government is currently concerned with ensuring that [00:05:49] citizens can eat from [00:05:52] their own labor and from their country's [00:05:55] aid from abroad. This is what [00:05:58] we are all concerned with now, and God willing, we will [00:06:02] not starve. This is an important point. [00:06:04] By the grace of God, as [00:06:08] you mentioned, Doctor, the production of Gedarif during [00:06:12] the year of the war covered a very large part of our food [00:06:15] needs. I mean, and the rest of the safe [00:06:19] states, even the people of Kassala in [00:06:23] the state, cultivated areas they [00:06:26] the previous season, for example. And therefore, thank God, we [00:06:29] did not starve, and God willing, [00:06:33] the first half of 2026, the volume [00:06:35] of exports was 1.8 billion dollars. We have not yet [00:06:39] reached the level that matches the capabilities [00:06:43] and resources of Sudan's huge natural resources, including gold. [00:06:47] 1.1 billion dollars [00:06:50] differs from the performance of 2025 or is slightly [00:06:53] higher. But Mr. Minister, let us [00:06:56] sector in a detailed way, even if we [00:06:59] address all these aspects. Journalists always ask [00:07:02] us why gold did not cover the gap that [00:07:05] oil used to cover before the secession of South [00:07:09] Sudan. And we say that, I mean, we [00:07:13] always give an example to clarify the matter to the viewer. I tell them, if [00:07:16] an oil well appeared in his house, [00:07:20] would the state leave him this well? No, the state would immediately [00:07:23] take over this matter as a national resource, [00:07:27] a resource that concerns all Sudanese people. It [00:07:30] is money owned by the [00:07:33] takes over this resource [00:07:39] If we apply this theory to gold, that we have [00:07:42] transformed the traditional sector into an organized sector, [00:07:46] because it is clear that with the secession of South Sudan and the gap that occurred in foreign currency [00:07:49] and oil budget resources, the state launched, for [00:07:52] example, artisanal mining, and it took off, and now [00:07:56] production belongs to the citizen, which is a gift, and not [00:08:00] to the entire Sudanese people. And if it came to Sudan internally through [00:08:04] a stock exchange or through the Central [00:08:07] economy, but 80% of gold production in the traditional sector is smuggled [00:08:11] abroad, most of it. What are the solutions, besides the [00:08:14] traditional sector's use [00:08:17] and cyanide, which have an impact [00:08:20] on the environment? We sometimes hear from geologists that [00:08:23] even surface exploration, when we use [00:08:26] satellites to find out what is deep [00:08:30] underground, it is not virgin land, it is not [00:08:34] level, and this hinders this matter. We want a complete vision for gold [00:08:38] and limiting its smuggling. What are the measures you have taken [00:08:41] in this regard? I think the question is [00:08:45] entirely appropriate. In many countries, you cannot [00:08:49] take a kilo [00:08:52] of sand or a kilo of dirt from a mine, [00:08:56] considering it state property, considering it [00:08:59] Sudan, sometimes [00:09:02] a blessing turns into a curse. [00:09:06] The abundance of gold everywhere and [00:09:09] on the surface led to citizens preceding the government [00:09:12] in gold production and engaging in it [00:09:15] on a large scale. A huge [00:09:18] number of people [00:09:21] field, reaching [00:09:24] millions, and it became a source [00:09:27] of income for citizens on one hand, and a source [00:09:31] of income, albeit small, for the state on [00:09:34] at that time, the state was in dire need [00:09:40] very difficult to stop this matter all at [00:09:44] once. And [00:09:48] contributes to smuggling because you [00:09:52] cannot control it at the level of its widespread [00:09:55] presence in the organized sector. The organized sector [00:09:58] is easy to control. Now, the entire focus is on [00:10:02] organizing artisanal mining as a first [00:10:05] stage, by fencing markets, defining [00:10:08] entry and exit points, and providing [00:10:12] electronic devices [00:10:15] for inspection, for weighing the vehicles [00:10:18] that transport the ore, [00:10:20] by monitoring the burning. Every [00:10:24] step, people can verify the information [00:10:27] by counting the markets themselves. Currently, there are more than 74 [00:10:31] gold markets. Now, people are trying to reduce these [00:10:34] markets to a reasonable number [00:10:37] and provide [00:10:40] the main markets so that the miner can [00:10:44] obtain his product, and at the same [00:10:47] time, the state is aware [00:10:50] of [00:10:54] by Dr. Nayyar on this day [00:10:57] with a specific form [00:11:00] to be filled out, and a copy [00:11:04] with sufficient information about this product, the amount [00:11:08] of gold in his possession. And there is follow-up now [00:11:11] for every quantity produced in a certain market, for example, [00:11:14] where did it go? to all markets, but we [00:11:17] will gradually reach all major [00:11:24] the product, we will know exactly [00:11:27] the quantity produced, and therefore if [00:11:31] it does not reach the official export lines, we will know whether [00:11:33] it is stored with [00:11:37] the person or has gone across [00:11:40] the borders, and the person who smuggled the goods will be held accountable. [00:11:43] What prevents the establishment of a gold exchange [00:11:47] since 2012, 2013, 2014, [00:11:50] the establishment of an exchange was approved? In 2016, the Ministry of Minerals [00:11:54] studied it and reached the economic section. And during [00:11:57] the transitional period, all regulations and laws were approved. What [00:12:01] hinders the establishment of an exchange to be an organized market that attracts gold internally [00:12:04] instead of externally? the exchange in [00:12:08] 2022 and sent delegations [00:12:12] to study exchanges in Dubai at the time, [00:12:15] in Turkey, in Egypt, in several countries, and they came [00:12:20] the project, but the war broke out and [00:12:24] the matter was delayed. Now, [00:12:27] not only a gold exchange, but also a commodity [00:12:30] exchange, especially [00:12:32] agricultural commodities. [00:12:35] The war destroyed the refinery, [00:12:38] and when the refineries are absent, it is very [00:12:42] difficult to have a gold exchange. [00:12:45] Raw gold needs to [00:12:49] it is easy to operate a refinery quickly, and I know that there is a refinery [00:12:53] inside the Suna now that has not been installed. [00:12:56] It is very easy. We are only waiting for [00:12:59] the refinery to resume work and produce [00:13:03] the required gold bars, then [00:13:06] we will launch the exchange. The study [00:13:10] is ready. We are just waiting for the refinery and crops [00:13:13] also. The market is also ready, [00:13:16] and we formed a committee, I think, a few [00:13:20] days ago. If you follow, the committee [00:13:23] is now working to open the exchange. [00:13:50] In light of the economic conditions that the country is witnessing, [00:13:54] media experts and academics pointed out [00:13:57] that Al Jazirah enjoys stable economic [00:14:01] of food supplies, and it has many economic alternatives [00:14:05] and agricultural projects and industrial cities, and it leads [00:14:09] the states in addressing economic distortions and solving [00:14:12] the living crisis. Now the economic effects [00:14:16] that people are talking about [00:14:20] we consider them to be bubbles [00:14:22] intended for known goals and purposes, [00:14:25] which have become more evident to citizens [00:14:29] agencies. Therefore, we can [00:14:32] say from the heart of Al Jazirah that Al Jazirah [00:14:36] leads the states as it is the exemplary [00:14:38] alternative that [00:14:41] we emulate in that we [00:14:44] address economic distortions made [00:14:47] according to natural rates on [00:14:51] the ground. The Ministry of Finance, Economy, and Labor [00:14:55] in Al Jazirah State affirmed that the state [00:14:58] has pioneered in opening markets to alleviate [00:15:01] living burdens [00:15:04] of measures to limit speculation in strategic [00:15:06] commodities and currency and rising prices. [00:15:10] We salute our armed forces for these [00:15:13] great victories they [00:15:16] have achieved in various operational [00:15:18] areas. In fact, the state has taken [00:15:24] measures for this purpose. [00:15:28] the beginning, all fees [00:15:30] and levies [00:15:34] transit goods or even [00:15:38] local products in Al Jazirah [00:15:41] state were abolished. The government of Al Jazirah [00:15:45] state affirmed that among its priorities is caring for people's [00:15:49] livelihoods so that citizens enjoy peace, security, and a decent [00:15:52] life, thanks to the victories led by the armed [00:15:55] forces and supporting forces in the battle of [00:15:58] dignity. We are truly [00:16:00] concerned with people's issues, especially the most [00:16:04] important one, which is people's livelihoods. Al Jazirah state [00:16:07] is one of the economic and agricultural states that is relied upon [00:16:10] to solve the living crisis. Al-Hindi Abd al-Rahman [00:16:14] Abu Shamah, Sudan TV, Al Jazirah state, [00:16:17] Wad Medani. We welcome back the Minister of Finance, [00:16:21] Dr. Jibril [00:16:25] Open." Before [00:16:28] the report, let's complete the last question on [00:16:31] the gold sector. Why, Mr. Minister, are there no deterrent [00:16:35] penalties against those who allow themselves to [00:16:38] smuggle the country's wealth abroad? And why has [00:16:42] smuggled gold not been confiscated, [00:16:45] and the means used, which are undoubtedly [00:16:48] 2025, 2024, or [00:16:52] 2026 models, valuable vehicles, [00:16:55] and why is the person who carried out this operation not subject to [00:16:58] long prison sentences so that it serves as a lesson and a deterrent [00:17:02] to others, and why is this not implemented on everyone? The law [00:17:05] applies to everyone without any exception and without any [00:17:08] influence. Why has this not [00:17:11] been done? The legislation that [00:17:15] punishes has been updated. [00:17:19] the legislation evasion and smuggling [00:17:22] until reaching the borders, it was considered by [00:17:25] the judge as merely evasion and not smuggling. [00:17:30] the person who carried the goods [00:17:33] near the borders was not prosecuted, even without a document, even without a document. [00:17:40] not considered smuggling, but rather [00:17:44] evasion. And we resorted [00:17:47] to the Minister of Justice and asked [00:17:49] him to amend the legislation so [00:17:53] that possession without documents would be considered smuggling, [00:17:57] and the person who carries [00:18:01] all precious minerals and gemstones without documents [00:18:05] would be considered a smuggler. Now [00:18:08] the legislation has been issued, and therefore the penalty [00:18:12] is deterrent. In reality, will the application be strict? [00:18:16] We hope so. I do not control the application, [00:18:19] but I hope that the judicial [00:18:21] authorities will play their role. The police and security [00:18:25] agencies will all play their role in achieving what [00:18:28] we aspire to. The other [00:18:30] matter is that smuggling also [00:18:33] develops with the development of anti-smuggling methods. [00:18:36] People have reached the point of smuggling with drones, [00:18:39] and security agencies are developing, and the agencies must develop more to [00:18:43] keep pace because gold [00:18:47] is attractive to the other side [00:18:51] of the border and to this side. And therefore, they exert [00:18:54] every effort to reach their goal. [00:18:58] The real solution, of course, is [00:19:02] incentive [00:19:06] domestically. I mean, combating smuggling [00:19:09] with policies is more effective than force. [00:19:13] No matter how hard you try, Sudan's borders are very wide. [00:19:16] Okay, well, if we talk about the report on discounted sales [00:19:20] and there are many questions about the exchange [00:19:23] rate and the dollar, let's start with discounted sales [00:19:27] and give us a clear statement, at least [00:19:30] to reassure all viewers about the current exchange rate [00:19:34] situation, and then we will complete the discounted sales [00:19:38] map. We think we said at the beginning of our talk about the exchange [00:19:42] rate [00:19:44] is artificial and has no real market, and the [00:19:47] rate has started to decline significantly. There are announcements [00:19:51] about the availability of large quantities of foreign currency [00:19:55] from Khartoum Bank and from other [00:19:58] banks, commitments from other banks [00:20:01] to provide sufficient credit [00:20:04] lines for importing all commodities. [00:20:07] Therefore, the demand [00:20:10] foreign currency is expected to decrease significantly, [00:20:14] and therefore the prices [00:20:17] of foreign currencies against the national currency [00:20:21] are expected to gradually drop the [00:20:25] unreal price to reasonable prices. The [00:20:29] prices usually go in one [00:20:33] direction, upwards, and rarely [00:20:36] decline. This is a real [00:20:39] the prices themselves for [00:20:42] one can [00:20:46] in prices for all goods. But now [00:20:49] we are trying. The state is making [00:20:52] an effort to activate cooperatives to provide goods from [00:20:56] their sources, although all essential consumer goods [00:20:59] are either exempt from customs or have a very [00:21:02] low rate that does not exceed 3%. [00:21:06] We review all fees that [00:21:09] can help us provide these goods without fees [00:21:14] get goods at a reasonable price. So, there is an effort [00:21:17] that will be launched [00:21:20] in all states, in all cooperatives, [00:21:23] to provide essential goods from their sources without [00:21:26] intermediaries so that we can provide goods in all neighborhoods. Well, Mr. [00:21:30] Minister, I think that the policy of economic liberalization [00:21:33] does not mean chaos, of course, and [00:21:37] the state has a role in the policy of economic liberalization. [00:21:40] It intervenes, but the method of intervention is indirect [00:21:43] and not direct by compelling the merchant to sell at a specific [00:21:47] price. And the indirect intervention is if the state knows the actual [00:21:50] cost. I always called for a cost department in the Ministry of Finance, [00:21:56] and the Ministry of Trade and Industry. [00:21:59] department is that the state does not work in industry, but its primary [00:22:02] role is to scientifically measure the cost of producing any [00:22:06] commodity domestically or the cost of importing it from abroad. [00:22:09] Just because this information is very important [00:22:12] for the authorities in the state to make the right decisions [00:22:16] when I feel that a certain commodity costs 10 or 1000 [00:22:20] pounds and is sold for 400 or 5000 pounds, [00:22:23] the state here facilitates the flow of this commodity to be sold for 1200, [00:22:27] 1300, 1500. This will force the merchant, [00:22:30] not coerce him, to lower the price to a reasonable [00:22:33] level. In addition, the discounted sales experiment has been [00:22:37] tried several times, and its failure was due to multiple reasons. [00:22:40] We also want a clear answer from the Minister to reassure people: [00:22:46] or 30% lower than the market price; two, it should contain [00:22:49] goods that meet the daily needs of citizens; [00:22:52] three, it should be spread [00:22:56] to citizens or in other states; four, there should [00:23:00] be large capital if a huge company is entrusted to manage [00:23:04] this operation efficiently with large capital; [00:23:06] five, continuity. All these things were not implemented [00:23:10] in previous experiences. Have you addressed previous mistakes to remedy [00:23:13] this matter in the next phase? First, I agree [00:23:16] with you that the principle in [00:23:23] impose a specific price on a merchant. [00:23:27] You cannot give him this from yourself. He [00:23:31] bought it with his money and sells it with his money. The most effective [00:23:34] way is to provide fair competition to this [00:23:38] merchant [00:23:40] and to provide [00:23:45] by controlling fees. [00:23:48] This is to reduce the prices of goods. [00:23:52] And therefore, the merchant will be forced to sell [00:23:54] at competitive prices [00:24:05] Well, we have eight minutes, Mr. Minister, [00:24:08] capsules. Why does the state not import [00:24:11] fuel during wartime? It could have offered fuel at [00:24:14] a cost or at a price 25% to 30% [00:24:18] lower than it is now. We will finish all the existing [00:24:21] topics with quick answers. Okay. [00:24:24] The state basically relies on free trade [00:24:27] and has not suffered throughout the war from [00:24:31] a shortage of petroleum products. If we had decided that the state [00:24:35] would import [00:24:36] and provide [00:24:39] foreign currency for importing goods, we would have entered into a bigger problem. [00:24:43] Well, in the current circumstances, many countries have absorbed the shocks [00:24:46] related to Hormuz and Bab al-Mandeb [00:24:51] some of its fuel fees and forcing the private [00:24:54] sector to reduce its profit margin. Why didn't that happen [00:24:58] in a quick answer? We are now controlling the size [00:25:01] of the profits made by [00:25:05] importing entities, and also [00:25:07] we are reviewing [00:25:10] taxes imposed on diesel, for [00:25:13] example. The three commodities: wheat, flour, sugar, and petroleum [00:25:16] derivatives, are approximately 2.2 billion [00:25:20] dollars, representing 48.5% of the total [00:25:24] imports. If the state intervened and controlled [00:25:27] some of the commodities, a positive change could occur. [00:25:30] Let's conclude with a question: Is there full coordination between [00:25:34] monetary and financial policies? Certainly. [00:25:37] The Central [00:25:38] Bank and the Ministry [00:25:41] of Finance work in full coordination and complete [00:25:45] harmony. And there is also coordination at the economic [00:25:49] sector level, certainly, [00:25:53] in the end, this does not mean direct [00:25:56] intervention by the Ministry of Finance in the work of the Central [00:26:00] Bank. The Central Bank is an independent entity and reports [00:26:03] directly to the Presidency of the Sovereignty Council. Yes. Okay, there [00:26:07] is a continuous complaint from importers [00:26:10] your opinion is well-known. You announced in the media that there is [00:26:14] no customs dollar, and I understand that as an adherence [00:26:18] to international institutions that the dollar exchange rate is unified. But [00:26:21] if the main goal is to unify the exchange [00:26:25] dollar increases do we not reduce the customs duty category to create [00:26:29] balance and avoid additional burden on citizens? In a quick answer, basically, all [00:26:34] are either completely exempt from customs or have a duty [00:26:38] of only 3%. All essential [00:26:40] food items. The other matter is that if you try [00:26:44] to fix the currency exchange rate for customs [00:26:50] you do not reduce the prices of goods because the merchant [00:26:53] does not sell at the official government price, but rather at the parallel [00:26:56] and replacement price, above the parallel [00:26:59] price. And therefore, you are achieving [00:27:05] profits for the merchant [00:27:08] at the expense of reducing state revenues. You are dealing with [00:27:12] a private sector that was not dealing - I would not say [00:27:15] with full transparency. It increases prices at a rapid [00:27:19] pace and decreases them at a slow [00:27:22] pace in this matter. even if there are goods exempt from customs, [00:27:26] as long as there are high customs duties on other goods, [00:27:31] and that may not be [00:27:34] reflected. If it affects a commodity worth 1000 pounds, the increase will be 4000 [00:27:40] the state. Why have Sudan's capabilities and resources [00:27:43] and natural resources not been exploited to the required extent since independence [00:27:47] until now? In short, Sudan has been preoccupied [00:27:50] with conflicts, whether internal political [00:27:53] conflicts or civil wars, [00:27:56] which have truly hampered production for a long [00:28:00] The time is now, after this war, for [00:28:03] people to engage in a true dialogue [00:28:06] that addresses all the roots of the Sudanese problem and the roots [00:28:10] of unrest and conflict, and to reach a formula [00:28:13] that drives [00:28:15] people to work for the renaissance. Your vision regarding the adjustment [00:28:19] of salaries and sources for covering this increase. [00:28:22] We are currently studying, at the level [00:28:25] of the Ministry of Finance, at the level of the Supreme Council for Wages, to [00:28:30] adjustment in salaries, [00:28:34] careful consideration that it be [00:28:38] from resources [00:28:41] with real purchasing power, not just a number, but that this [00:28:45] increase means an increase in purchasing power. [00:28:48] The decision to exempt solar energy systems [00:28:52] those returning to their homeland, and this is an advantage and encouragement [00:28:55] for those returning. But what about those inside Sudan, where the [00:28:59] system has become a necessity amidst the fluctuations in electricity? [00:29:03] For the viewer's knowledge, solar energy is exempt [00:29:06] even for traders, not [00:29:09] the end, the trader will sell solar energy [00:29:13] to the consumer. We [00:29:15] exempted all solar energy inputs [00:29:19] from customs duties [00:29:21] completely, except for some batteries that have more than [00:29:25] one use. People want to ensure that they are used for solar [00:29:29] energy. Otherwise, all solar energy is exempt, whether commercial or [00:29:32] for domestic use. Do you have new policies [00:29:36] to, meaning, reassure citizens that [00:29:39] the exchange rate will stabilize, because many people are following this, whether [00:29:43] at the commercial level, exporters, importers, or those who have families [00:29:46] abroad who transfer from within? This is a very important issue. In [00:29:50] less than 30 seconds. We are [00:29:52] currently working on a set of measures. We don't [00:29:56] necessarily disclose all of them because some parties monitor this [00:30:00] and try to take [00:30:03] opposing policies. But we are working on measures [00:30:06] that we believe will contribute to stabilizing the exchange rate. Your vision: will [00:30:12] who are not currently working be gradually employed [00:30:15] according to need, or what is your vision on [00:30:18] that? Certainly, the current [00:30:22] the state is that whoever can [00:30:26] come, [00:30:29] work and try to expand on that until everyone returns. And as we conclude [00:30:33] this episode, we hope that we have been able [00:30:37] to speak on behalf of the citizen and discuss everything that is on [00:30:40] the citizen's mind before the Minister of Finance, Dr. Gibril Ibrahim. [00:30:43] But we want quick capsules from the Minister and good news [00:30:47] for the citizen. You are, at the joints of the state and [00:30:51] among the decision-makers, and we want to, meaning, strengthen this episode [00:30:55] certainly with decisions or expected decisions to [00:30:58] be issued that will have positive impacts.