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[00:00:00] in the Rapid Support Forces militia, from defections, of course,
[00:00:03] those who defected, and
[00:00:07] this is a turning the defection is still ongoing. They
[00:00:10] are not soldiers and not
[00:00:13] political citizens. Uh, these
[00:00:16] are leaders, senior
[00:00:19] officers in the front lines, leading
[00:00:22] military operations on the ground. And
[00:00:26] therefore, we evaluate whether
[00:00:30] the Rapid Support Forces militia is with the same strength or
[00:00:33] less. Uh, therefore, the departure of these field
[00:00:39] the militia's media figures leaders their evaluation of the battle
[00:00:42] the armed forces being present in that now there is a superiority of the armed forces over
[00:00:46] the Rapid Support Forces and the military Rapid Support Forces cannot
[00:00:49] confront the armed forces on the ground. Therefore. And
[00:00:52] therefore, they decided to
[00:00:54] members of escape from this boat which is about to
[00:00:58] sink. Uh. Therefore,
[00:01:01] this more than once. The Rapid Support Forces cannot
[00:01:02] and destroyed thousands of our evaluation comes from here
[00:01:05] that the departure of the main leaders
[00:01:08] who are fighting and on the front lines
[00:01:13] people who are now in disabled, present in and defected to the armed forces is considered that
[00:01:17] this this position is considered
[00:01:19] a clear admission of the superiority of the armed
[00:01:22] forces and the
[00:01:25] inability of the Rapid Support Forces to confront the armed forces on the ground. Therefore.
[00:01:30] They decided to go to the armed forces and there
[00:01:34] that is, all your accusation is that you are communicating with are more defections. We have contacts
[00:01:37] and we have many acquaintances among
[00:01:40] senior leaders. People may be surprised in the coming
[00:01:43] days. Everyone now wants to jump
[00:01:47] over its soldiers in from this boat
[00:01:50] save himself and go to the armed forces.
[00:01:53] supporting But due to security conditions,
[00:01:57] unfortunately, many they are delaying their withdrawal from the Rapid Support
[00:02:01] are now trying to market this Forces. Therefore, there is communication between the leaders who
[00:02:03] defected and the leaders who are still
[00:02:07] contact with present. So, I am very happy that
[00:02:10] the leadership of the Sudanese
[00:02:13] aware of who is behind Armed Forces still keeps the
[00:02:15] door of repentance open to all
[00:02:18] remove this who carried arms, especially senior leaders in the Rapid Support Forces militia.
[00:02:22] And
[00:02:24] now cannot this gave them reassurance that
[00:02:26] the
[00:02:28] Armed Forces are now completely reassured that the Armed
[00:02:32] Forces and the decisions they took
[00:02:37] and I can be assertive in this in accepting everyone who wants to come to the homeland
[00:02:41] is welcome. Therefore, they were reassured about this
[00:02:45] position through their colleagues who
[00:02:47] preceded them. And now what
[00:02:50] counter this we see in the field, especially
[00:02:52] the meetings that were recorded recently
[00:02:56] for the leader of the militia, and he is among
[00:03:00] a group of soldiers and vehicles that were
[00:03:04] estimated at approximately
[00:03:06] its arrival there does not mean, 150 vehicles approximately, and he is talking
[00:03:09] that in the past he used to confront 60
[00:03:13] affect even vehicles with 1000
[00:03:16] the arrival of leaders from vehicles. And this means
[00:03:18] that is, hundreds of an admission from him that he cannot provide more than the vehicles
[00:03:21] that were with him at that time. He is trying to encourage
[00:03:25] people that these simple vehicles that we see can be used to
[00:03:29] defeat the armed forces and we can
[00:03:32] achieve victories with them in different places.
[00:03:35] more defections Therefore, through his words that
[00:03:38] through the departure of the main
[00:03:42] field leaders from the Rapid Support Forces
[00:03:45] and also there is conscription, it has become compulsory conscription.
[00:03:48] That is, the last time, from our communication, they
[00:03:52] went to villages
[00:03:54] leading the war on and remote areas, they took many young
[00:03:57] minors and... they promised them
[00:04:00] that they would take them to
[00:04:02] that militarily, they cannot Libya to train them
[00:04:06] from and then return them to Darfur or Kordofan, Sudan in general,
[00:04:10] for close contact between the militia
[00:04:14] and the armed forces. Therefore, these young people go to
[00:04:17] security arrangements, uh, and they will train them in
[00:04:21] in terms of soldiers or Libya. So these
[00:04:22] in terms of armament, or even young people were surprised that
[00:04:24] they were dropped off in Ethiopia and found themselves
[00:04:28] in numbers, nor in equipment, nor even in the
[00:04:31] areas close to the Blue Nile. And within
[00:04:34] 12 hours,
[00:04:38] by the words that come from that is,
[00:04:40] even Hamedti's appearance in they reached the border, they reached the front lines of the militia in the Blue Nile. That is, these
[00:04:44] of them are now resentful of young people moved from Darfur
[00:04:46] until they reached the battle on
[00:04:49] the front lines of the battle between
[00:04:52] Yes, thank you very much. There is no fear in this the army and the militia
[00:04:55] in the Blue Nile within 48
[00:04:59] hours. Yes. Until the Ethiopian-Sudanese border,
[00:05:03] 48 hours, they were deceived that they would go and train
[00:05:06] and enter into security arrangements, as I mentioned. Yes, this is how
[00:05:10] they gathered them from the local communities, from the villages and
[00:05:14] from the remote areas, different areas, and they were all young people. That is, the oldest of them would be
[00:05:17] 22, 23. They told them, we will take you to Libya
[00:05:21] and train you because there is an agreement between them and the government
[00:05:25] and the army, and after that we will put you in arrangements
[00:05:28] to join the Sudanese army. So they took them and put them on
[00:05:32] a plane and they found themselves in Ethiopia. Okay, okay, that is,
[00:05:35] as long as they are waiting for them, yes, yes, Doctor
[00:05:39] Yacoub, as long as we have talked about
[00:05:43] you about the
[00:05:46] situation in the local administration, they are very annoyed. They
[00:05:49] are waiting for the armed forces to reach them to save them from this destruction that has afflicted them.
[00:05:53] But the local administration, we know
[00:05:56] that some local administrations, especially the Nazirs
[00:05:59] of some tribes, these people have been very strongly
[00:06:03] involved with the militia and have become
[00:06:07] the militia. And during the past four
[00:06:10] years, they were mobilizing for the militia
[00:06:15] these young people. These young people
[00:06:18] are now demanding their rights because there are people killed, there are people missing, there
[00:06:22] are thousands of people who are
[00:06:25] orphanages.
[00:06:28] There are widows, there is a very big tragedy, and these
[00:06:31] local administrations that push their people
[00:06:34] into this inferno are responsible for it. These people
[00:06:37] now, when they felt that the Rapid Support Forces
[00:06:41] are about to collapse completely, and the armed
[00:06:44] forces will inevitably arrive and the state will arrive. So
[00:06:48] they tried to talk about
[00:06:51] the issue of the existence of the Rapid Support Forces. They are now denying the Rapid Support Forces and saying
[00:06:55] that we are calling for our existence because if we don't
[00:06:58] defend, tomorrow there will be no citizen for the armed forces and the Sudanese
[00:07:02] army and the joint and other
[00:07:06] forces when they come
[00:07:09] here, they will reward the people. And these people
[00:07:14] thing. But we, from
[00:07:17] our the people
[00:07:20] and informing them and reassuring them that the armed
[00:07:24] forces are coming to protect them, coming
[00:07:27] to
[00:07:31] harm that has afflicted them, disrupting their schools,
[00:07:34] disrupting their hospitals, there is no safety, all
[00:07:38] the bad things are now present in this region. Therefore,
[00:07:41] the people. Now the local administration is in
[00:07:44] one valley and the citizens are in another valley. And I believe,
[00:07:50] , that if the armed forces do not enter
[00:07:54] and control the situation in Darfur
[00:07:57] in general, then these tribes will hold
[00:08:00] the local administrations responsible for
[00:08:04] being the cause of the destruction of their young people. That is, they will punish
[00:08:07] these people from their own people, not from the state, by the way. And this
[00:08:10] is a fact. Okay, okay, Doctor,
[00:08:14] that is, what are the implications
[00:08:16] of the defection? Are we facing the disintegration
[00:08:20] of the militia's structure?
[00:08:22] The lack of communication between the leadership and the field
[00:08:26] leadership with the militia's leadership? Because we have seen
[00:08:29] many videos where they send their messages through media
[00:08:33] saying, "Oh, leader, help us!" and "Oh, leader, you didn't
[00:08:36] give us cars!" Has the militia
[00:08:39] begun to disintegrate? Has the relationship between the militia's
[00:08:42] leadership and the fighting elements on the ground
[00:08:46] begun to fade? This relationship
[00:08:49] Of course, استاذ, this
[00:08:52] is true. The militia has disintegrated.
[00:08:55] And the proof of that is the departure of key leaders.
[00:08:59] And as I mentioned at the beginning of my speech, these are not ordinary
[00:09:02] soldiers. These are field leaders who are fighting and
[00:09:07] the front lines, and they are the ones confronting the Sudanese
[00:09:10] Armed Forces. Therefore, they have reached a conviction
[00:09:15] Therefore, the issue has
[00:09:18] become two forces
[00:09:21] or less. Therefore, they will also be held accountable.
[00:09:24] Therefore, their field assessment is
[00:09:28] the real assessment. And what is happening in terms of defections and
[00:09:31] what is happening in terms of discontent here
[00:09:34] and there and complaints through electronic
[00:09:38] media indicates that the armed forces are victorious. And all this talk
[00:09:41] that we are talking about is all because the armed forces are militarily
[00:09:45] victorious and their military plans are proceeding as they should.
[00:09:49] And
[00:09:52] the last period, his appearance is very
[00:09:55] weak and his words are unorganized and illogical at all.
[00:09:59] That is, Kordofan, Kordofan
[00:10:02] in general, this is the first line of defense for the militia. That is, I
[00:10:06] want to emphasize, my brother, Kordofan, I always
[00:10:09] say it is like a reservoir. When it is full
[00:10:12] of water, and you open the water, of course,
[00:10:16] the water will flow and go. So Kordofan, for
[00:10:19] the Rapid Support Forces, is the same issue that
[00:10:23] I am talking about. All
[00:10:25] the modern weapons and all the
[00:10:29] forces, soldiers, and all the officers, and all
[00:10:32] the military operations, and the drones, and all the power they have, are all in
[00:10:36] Kordofan. And they put them there because it is the line of defense. They do not
[00:10:39] want the army to go to Darfur. Darfur has no army. Darfur has no
[00:10:43] weapons. Darfur has no men. All the people have gone to
[00:10:46] Kordofan. When Kordofan collapses, Darfur
[00:10:50] will no longer have anyone to defend it because they have gathered them here.
[00:10:53] Therefore,
[00:10:58] what he is talking about, that is, we even saw
[00:11:04] active in the media, despite
[00:11:07] the mentioned area and declaring their control, they
[00:11:10] are still talking that this is a lie and that they
[00:11:14] are in different areas in Europe, and in America, and in
[00:11:17] the UAE. Therefore,
[00:11:21] the current reality indicates that the Rapid Support Forces are finished. And I will say
[00:11:26] confront the armed forces. It is also
[00:11:29] a problem, or it must also be done in an orderly manner and at night.
[00:11:33] This is the situation now in Darfur, and what the armed forces
[00:11:37] have reached, and what the Rapid Support Forces have
[00:11:40] reached to this stage
[00:11:43] is an issue. Yes, okay, Doctor Yacoub, I apologize for interrupting,
[00:11:46] but the militia, of course, is
[00:11:50] divided into groups, and now we see the whole group
[00:11:53] leaving. The leader of the group
[00:11:55] with his groups leaving
[00:11:58] it. How does the departure of trained
[00:12:01] field leaders experienced in war
[00:12:04] affect the balance of power
[00:12:07] and the militia's control
[00:12:12] the field?
[00:12:14] They are groups,
[00:12:16] that is, groups. That is, our
[00:12:19] people, the armed groups, that is, when we hear
[00:12:23] about a field leader
[00:12:25] or a group leader, what is this group?
[00:12:29] This group is a tribal group. Yes,
[00:12:32] someone brought his family. He told his family,
[00:12:36] "If you bring, for example, 100, we will give you the rank
[00:12:39] of so-and-so. If you bring 200, your rank will be
[00:12:42] so-and-so." So the more you mobilize your family, the more you increase
[00:12:45] the number, the higher your rank will be.
[00:12:49] Therefore, all the leaders they are talking about, all these groups are tribal
[00:12:52] groups. That is, they are not a group that was originally formed by the Rapid Support Forces as mobilized
[00:12:56] forces, not as forces affiliated with the Rapid Support Forces since
[00:12:59] its establishment. Yes, all those who you see now,
[00:13:03] they say, "The group leader so-and-so was attacked," or "The group
[00:13:06] leader so-and-so was injured," or "The group leader so-and-so defected
[00:13:10] from the Rapid Support Forces and returned to the homeland."
[00:13:13] These are all mobilized individuals,
[00:13:16] and the mobilization before the Rapid Support Forces as a military
[00:13:19] force, as people know it, is over.
[00:13:22] Now it has become a group of different tribes,
[00:13:25] and each one goes to go
[00:13:29] Um, yes, okay, now, yes.
[00:13:33] Okay, that is, in your opinion, will the signs
[00:13:36] of internal disintegration possibly
[00:13:38] the supporters, causing them to discover that this matter is not
[00:13:42] going forward, and thus reducing
[00:13:45] support, leading to more defections within the militia, or
[00:13:49] even sacrificing it in a settlement with the Sudanese
[00:13:52] government? Of course.
[00:13:55] The supporters, the declared supporters,
[00:13:58] and the people behind them, they have completely
[00:14:01] realized that the Rapid Support Forces have become
[00:14:05] a thing of the past. And the Sudanese army has become
[00:14:08] the main force and has imposed itself. This is a reality, and they have reached
[00:14:12] it, even the supporting state,
[00:14:15] the UAE, the supporting state. And I say this now and I say
[00:14:19] for history that now
[00:14:22] the UAE, after this battle, there was a battle
[00:14:26] with the leaders of the Rapid Support and they were
[00:14:28] arrested. Because
[00:14:32] they gave the UAE a picture different from the picture that is now
[00:14:36] present.
[00:14:38] As for the falsification of their media, now its channels
[00:14:41] are also lying that we have won and we are a force
[00:14:45] and we will control the city of so-and-so and we want the type
[00:14:48] of weapon so-and-so, we want the type of drone so-and-so, that
[00:14:52] we brought soldiers, soldiers who need vehicles. The UAE, of course,
[00:14:55] supports them and listened to their words. That is, all this support is based on
[00:14:59] what? Based on conviction
[00:15:03] the militia. The militia's words are no longer logical. The UAE
[00:15:06] spent billions of dollars, but the result now
[00:15:10] is being appreciated. Therefore, perhaps in the coming period, they will return
[00:15:13] to arrest them because they experimented with them and put them
[00:15:17] in a very big dilemma. The UAE now is not
[00:15:21] about stopping the war, it has become a pariah state in the regional
[00:15:24] community. The international community and has become a pariah
[00:15:27] state even from its neighbors.
[00:15:29] We saw a few days ago, that is, in the Gulf
[00:15:33] final between the UAE and Saudi Arabia, yes, even Saudi Arabia's neighbors.
[00:15:37] That is, the whole Gulf, when the UAE's national anthem was played, they mocked
[00:15:41] the national anthem. That is,
[00:15:45] point in the relationship between the UAE and its Arab neighbors. That is, I
[00:15:48] am talking about the UAE and the Asians, I am talking about the UAE and the Arabs themselves.
[00:15:52] That is, therefore, this is the situation of the UAE. The UAE is a pariah
[00:15:56] state as a result
[00:15:58] of their support for these people and its generous
[00:16:02] support, which is now rebounding on it politically
[00:16:05] and the forces it supports now. Militarily,
[00:16:08] therefore, these people will be arrested
[00:16:12] and held accountable because they caused this
[00:16:15] paper. Okay, okay, since you mentioned
[00:16:18] arrest, the militia has internal suspicions
[00:16:22] that prompted it to arrest a number
[00:16:26] of its elements and leaders.
[00:16:28] How do you see the impact of this state
[00:16:32] of mistrust on
[00:16:34] the cohesion of the militia?
[00:16:39] Of course, these arrests are one of the things
[00:16:41] that made people hate the Rapid Support Forces, even the supporters
[00:16:45] of the Rapid Support Forces, by the way. The Rapid Support Forces is not all at the same
[00:16:49] level. There is a first-degree Rapid Support Force and there is a level
[00:16:52] and there is a second-degree Rapid Support Force
[00:16:55] and there is a level and one level is better.
[00:16:59] That is, they are better. Yes.
[00:17:01] And therefore, I
[00:17:03] say the arbitrary arrests
[00:17:08] that happen without reason,
[00:17:11] the army. That is, these people have a phobia of
[00:17:14] anyone who might have
[00:17:18] an opinion. As long as you have an opinion, it means you are affiliated with the army, you are an agent
[00:17:22] of the army. You are imprisoned without any trial, and perhaps in
[00:17:25] some tribes, it is intentional.
[00:17:29] And the person who arrived there, no one knows him, and you cannot get him out, and there is no one
[00:17:33] who can get him out. Therefore, these arrests are one of
[00:17:36] the things that make people from the Rapid Support Forces
[00:17:40] and there are many tribal leaders who are now in prisons
[00:17:43] and there are tribes that have completely withdrawn from the Rapid Support
[00:17:47] Forces. They have completely withdrawn and they were main
[00:17:50] supporting tribes. I am convinced or not
[00:17:54] convinced, Allah knows about greed, but now they have completely
[00:17:57] withdrawn and Abdel Rahim Deblo or Hamedti
[00:18:01] convince
[00:18:04] these tribes to return
[00:18:07] again.
[00:18:10] The tribes themselves or the people of Darfur in general,
[00:18:13] they feel that the army is coming. No one
[00:18:17] helps the Rapid Support Forces because they have reached a conviction that if
[00:18:21] the Rapid Support Forces were present, they reached
[00:18:24] Al-Dandin and Sennar and Al-Jazira and Jow
[00:18:27] Al-Mawiya and Madani and Khartoum and so on and so on, Al-Jeili
[00:18:31] and now we are talking about the gates of Darfur.
[00:18:34] So people are not the opposite. Everyone
[00:18:38] wants to be at home so that he is not held accountable. The armed
[00:18:41] forces do not hold people accountable, they hold criminals accountable, not citizens.
[00:18:43] Therefore, all the people are afraid
[00:18:47] because the Rapid Support Forces are finished, and even
[00:18:50] their leaders, what I knew is that some of the main leaders
[00:18:53] have now sent their children
[00:18:56] and they remained themselves
[00:18:58] as infidels and their relatives sent them out, and perhaps
[00:19:02] if the armed forces
[00:19:05] reached them, Okay, okay, Doctor
[00:19:08] Yacoub, you predicted that
[00:19:12] would occur. In your opinion, what are the factors that might
[00:19:16] push, that is, field leaders or even
[00:19:20] soldiers to leave the militia at this time?
[00:19:23] Is it a feeling of injustice within
[00:19:26] the militia, or the victories achieved by the armed
[00:19:30] forces, or is it a combination of factors, in your view, from
[00:19:33] within the militia? No, it is
[00:19:41] actually, the whole issue is that they
[00:19:44] have reached a conviction that the state has decided its matter completely,
[00:19:48] and the army will arrive, and they do not have
[00:19:52] the strength to
[00:19:54] confront, that is, the strength
[00:20:00] in terms of morale, to confront the armed
[00:20:02] forces. Neither
[00:20:06] psychologically. Uh, no, it is possible, of course,
[00:20:10] in addition to the fact that many people were
[00:20:13] discriminated against within the Rapid Support Forces, uh,
[00:20:16] and they were complaining, and now, on the contrary, many
[00:20:21] the Rapid Support Forces because it did not
[00:20:25] fulfill their aspirations or their wishes that they were asking for, and there was
[00:20:28] discrimination among them. There is a first-degree and a second-degree and a third-degree
[00:20:32] and there are people who are just entrenched in the Rapid Support Forces like this.
[00:20:36] Therefore, they are now. The precision of the Sudanese
[00:20:38] army and the progress
[00:20:41] militarily, this is what made them disintegrate and made them
[00:20:45] return. The more the army advances, the more
[00:20:48] defections occur. For example, the collapse, and the collapse is happening now.
[00:20:52] That is, all the meetings
[00:20:55] and everything that the commander of the Rapid Support Forces,
[00:20:58] Hamedti, is doing, and Abdel Rahim, that is, they are now
[00:21:01] afraid, that is, if there are
[00:21:04] three of them, they will surely say that the third one is affiliated with the government. That is, the truth
[00:21:08] has reached them, that is, if there are
[00:21:12] three of them, one of them suspects that he is affiliated with the army. Yes.
[00:21:15] Therefore, their movements, each one moves in a different direction,
[00:21:19] and each one even sleeps alone. I do not
[00:21:22] expect that his companion might be affiliated with the armed
[00:21:25] forces. The phobia has now afflicted
[00:21:28] these people. Therefore, anyone of them who finds an opportunity to accept
[00:21:31] the army returns. Yes.
[00:21:34] And many of them are now ready to come
[00:21:38] to the army, but they are trying to find ways, and perhaps if
[00:21:41] we look back, even
[00:21:45] the senior leaders in the Rapid Support Forces who joined the army,
[00:21:49] the homeland. These people took months to reach
[00:21:53] the army, by the way, because of
[00:21:55] security reasons and very high coordination
[00:21:59] so that they could even reach. So there are many
[00:22:03] line, they want the way that leads them
[00:22:06] to the army.
[00:22:08] And I am sure that if the army opens this
[00:22:12] rock and reaching the army
[00:22:14] becomes easy, all these people will come. And the best thing that
[00:22:18] the commander of the armed forces, Lieutenant General
[00:22:22] Burhan, did was to renew the amnesty because he knows that
[00:22:25] many citizens and followers of the Rapid Support Forces were deceived, and this
[00:22:29] is an agenda that they are not aware of. This is a foreign
[00:22:33] agenda, and an agenda that wants to disintegrate Sudan and loot
[00:22:36] Sudan. Therefore, the sons of Sudan must receive them
[00:22:39] and inform them that you have escaped from
[00:22:43] the trap of XIM Sudan. That is, many
[00:22:47] people criticize that how can the armed forces
[00:22:50] receive people who were in the Rapid Support
[00:22:54] Forces, but many of these people were also not aware of
[00:22:58] this project. They were not aware of the objectives of this project. They were not
[00:23:03] this project. This project is only known
[00:23:06] and coordinated by the commander of the Rapid Support Forces with the UAE and other
[00:23:09] supporting countries. But the rest of them were not aware. So finally,
[00:23:13] the things that they were not aware
[00:23:16] of became clear to them. Yes, okay, Doctor, Doctor Al-Dumuki, that is,
[00:23:21] time has caught up with us. I want you to briefly, in quick
[00:23:24] points, if you please, because you touched on an important
[00:23:27] point, which is that the militia is now propagating among the community components in
[00:23:31] Darfur that if the armed forces come, they will annihilate you
[00:23:35] or displace you from these areas. How can we
[00:23:40] false
[00:23:43] discourse from the militia so that
[00:23:46] our people in Darfur are reassured that the armed forces will come to
[00:23:50] liberate their children from the grip of this militia, and that
[00:23:56] by any means, targeting these community components? Briefly, if
[00:23:59] you please. Okay.
[00:24:01] First, that is,
[00:24:06] the Rapid Support Forces with them, forces,
[00:24:10] and the state's reception
[00:24:12] of them is a very big positive and encourages
[00:24:16] many of them and reassures people because the state is
[00:24:20] originally coming to save them, not to destroy them. Yes.
[00:24:23] These are citizens of the state, and the state is keen on
[00:24:25] its citizens. Therefore, through
[00:24:29] our contacts and many of the people
[00:24:32] from the Darfur regions who are now in Khartoum, different
[00:24:35] regions, their contacts have not stopped at all. They call
[00:24:38] and the people, of course, this is all propaganda from
[00:24:41] the militia. After it realized that it is going to
[00:24:44] fall, it is trying to mobilize
[00:24:48] people in the name of the government. Besides, no state kills
[00:24:52] its citizens, my friend. It is true. The state is coming to save them
[00:24:56] the tragedies and massacres
[00:24:59] and drugs. The state is coming to open schools
[00:25:03] because their children have not been to school for four years. The state is coming to
[00:25:06] open hospitals. There is no treatment. The state is
[00:25:10] coming to open universities. The militia even burned
[00:25:14] the university libraries. It burned them. It is true. The state is not coming to kill people. The state
[00:25:17] is coming to restore security and safety. The state.
[00:25:20] It is coming to restore services to the citizen. The state is coming to restore
[00:25:23] sovereignty to the state. The army wants to restore sovereignty to the state. So our
[00:25:27] message to our people is that this is a state. The state is not a militia.
[00:25:30] It is coming to provide you with services. It is coming to protect you.
[00:25:34] It is coming to protect the state's borders itself. Yes, sovereignty,
[00:25:38] to protect the state's sovereignty.
[00:25:42] matter, God willing. The message has been delivered, and our children
[00:25:46] will continue to deliver this message, and we will deliver it
[00:25:50] through our national television that the state
[00:25:54] is coming to protect them. Yes,
[00:25:56] the state is coming to impose its sovereignty and provide them
[00:25:59] with services, to open their closed schools.
[00:26:03] Yes, to provide them with medicines and hospitals that
[00:26:06] were destroyed. The universities
[00:26:08] and libraries that were burned. We had the University of
[00:26:12] El Fasher and Nyala University, these are among the best universities. The University of El Fasher graduated how many
[00:26:15] doctors? It is true. I was a minister of health in South
[00:26:19] Darfur. Yes.
[00:26:21] 70% of the doctors who work in Nyala Hospital graduated from the University of
[00:26:25] El Fasher. Where is the University of El Fasher
[00:26:28] now? True. Thank you very much, Dr. Yacoub
[00:26:31] Al-Dumuki. It needs a clear strategy
[00:26:35] to address the concerns of citizens in Darfur State
[00:26:38] that the militia is stirring up with such lies,
[00:26:41] claiming that the arrival of the armed
[00:26:45] forces will mean targeting these
[00:26:48] community components. The message is that the army came
[00:26:51] to liberate the people of Darfur, with all their components, from this
[00:26:55] militia, just as it liberated Khartoum, Al-Jazira,
[00:26:59] Kordofan,
[00:27:01] and other regions in Sudan. Thank you very much, Dr. Yacoub
[00:27:04] Al-Dumuki, the political expert and analyst,
[00:27:08] our guest in our second