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[00:00:00] links the eastern region with the rest of the governorates,
[00:00:03] the regional markets,
[00:00:05] Syria, and it remains active in and international markets, Dr. You know and
[00:00:08] most Syrians also know that the defunct regime
[00:00:12] has consistently and systematically marginalized the eastern region
[00:00:15] in general,
[00:00:17] There are several levels. On and Deir ez-Zor in particular. It seems that the title
[00:00:21] for the Syrian state is needed to confront
[00:00:21] of this of the next phase today is to restore
[00:00:24] support for this state is needed because this attention to this region. Economically
[00:00:28] and infrastructurally,
[00:00:30] if this production is used Deir ez-Zor, even if it was not destroyed,
[00:00:34] it needs a lot
[00:00:37] more than others, and developments due to neglect over the past
[00:00:38] of chaos that the country experienced years, so what about the destruction happening today?
[00:00:41] How will the government's attention to Deir ez-Zor today
[00:00:45] reflect on this region in particular
[00:00:48] and on Syria in general?
[00:00:51] It is clear, I mean, when
[00:00:54] His Excellency the President delivers a message or a recorded
[00:00:58] video and gives a speech, it is clear that the attention is at the highest level.
[00:01:02] It is not an attention
[00:01:04] that is
[00:01:07] polarization that the new This attention is the result of
[00:01:09] His Excellency the President and the government's
[00:01:15] a problem in keenness to pay attention
[00:01:19] and his life, because perhaps he does not periods the arrest of a number of to Deir ez-Zor, because paying attention to Deir ez-Zor is not development for one governorate, it is an investment in one of the most important
[00:01:22] economic regions in Syria.
[00:01:26] I mean, Professor Ammar, the eastern region includes
[00:01:29] a large part of the oil and gas wealth,
[00:01:31] vast agricultural areas, and a geographic
[00:01:35] followers of ISIS, if I may say so, or to location that connects Syria Therefore, media awareness at with Iraq and the Gulf.
[00:01:39] Therefore, any investment in it will
[00:01:41] have an impact on the national economy
[00:01:44] as a whole. What
[00:01:48] sectarian situation in Syria, there distinguishes the current phase
[00:01:50] is no sectarian conflict in Syria. This is that the talk is no longer about a single project, but rather about a comprehensive
[00:01:54] package that includes
[00:01:56] $21 million. It is part of an airport, and as we mentioned, a cargo center and an industrial city.
[00:02:00] We are talking
[00:02:03] investment does not depend on about large investments. Now, infrastructure
[00:02:06] is the first engine of growth. The World Bank estimated
[00:02:10] that every dollar invested in infrastructure
[00:02:13] or deceive any of projects can generate between one and a half
[00:02:16] and two and a half dollars in economic activity in the medium
[00:02:18] term because these projects stimulate
[00:02:23] the viewers. In approach will we be able the contracting sector and stimulate the transport sector, industry, and services,
[00:02:27] a radical and create demand for raw
[00:02:29] regarding this materials and labor. In addition, the eastern
[00:02:32] region, the eastern region, possesses one of the, also,
[00:02:36] great productive potentials.
[00:02:39] that ISIS thrived on Professor Ammar Farhoud, a researcher It has the most important oil and gas fields in Syria, in addition
[00:02:43] experienced and thrived on to vast agricultural
[00:02:46] because the followers of this
[00:02:46] with you, Professor Ammar. So, this lands. When these resources are connected with an international airport,
[00:02:50] an international road, and an industrial city,
[00:02:53] the economic value increases because the state
[00:02:57] that this organization thrives on
[00:02:58] session, this is not just selling raw materials, but rather adding to manufacturing, packaging, and logistical services. Yes,
[00:03:02] and perhaps here, since you have mentioned the integration
[00:03:06] believe that there are a number of all these
[00:03:07] of reshaping itself again in components, perhaps the smart economy
[00:03:10] or the smart utilization
[00:03:13] of the geographical location and the geographical
[00:03:16] advantage and the oil fields and the proximity of the oil fields
[00:03:21] in Iraq and Syria to for air cargo and an industrial city
[00:03:25] for establishing food
[00:03:28] and petrochemical
[00:03:30] industries emerges here. We are talking about this specific point, and agriculture as well. We connect all these
[00:03:34] matters with each
[00:03:36] a state confronting this other. in 2019 in This is 100% accurate. You have
[00:03:40] asked the question and you have
[00:03:43] added important answers to it.
[00:03:47] This is the essence of the economic project today. The real value of Deir
[00:03:51] ez-Zor is not in each resource individually, but rather in
[00:03:54] connecting all resources within an integrated production chain
[00:03:58] that creates added value for the Syrian economy.
[00:04:02] Deir ez-Zor has three strategic elements that are not
[00:04:06] sensitive. As I mentioned, this often found together in regions. First, it has a geographical
[00:04:08] location that connects Syria with Iraq and the Gulf,
[00:04:12] large oil
[00:04:14] international law. Despite and gas resources, and a vast agricultural base.
[00:04:18] solely on official Therefore, when you add an international airport, a cargo center, and an industrial
[00:04:22] city to it, you are essentially transforming these resources into an integrated
[00:04:25] separation, whether in production system.
[00:04:28] must know that. It is a threat to Today, the wealth the organization. The organization is not only a threat of a country is not measured by the size of its natural resources
[00:04:31] alone, but rather by its ability to transform these resources into
[00:04:35] value-added products. That is, a barrel of oil
[00:04:40] and its impact may be felt generates a certain value, but when it is used in petrochemical industries,
[00:04:43] the production of plastics, fertilizers, and chemical
[00:04:45] ideology. The organization materials, its economic
[00:04:48] value increases several times, as do
[00:04:52] employment opportunities and industrial revenues. The same
[00:04:55] applies to agriculture. The eastern
[00:04:57] region of Syria is one of the most important
[00:05:00] regions for the production of wheat, barley,
[00:05:03] to these norms is cotton, and livestock. When these products are transferred directly to
[00:05:07] the industrial city, they can be manufactured,
[00:05:09] packaged, and then exported through the air cargo center
[00:05:13] or the air route, instead of being sold as low-value raw
[00:05:17] materials. The same applies to the oil sector.
[00:05:20] Al-Omar oil field historically recorded a production capacity of nearly
[00:05:24] 80,000 barrels per day. If
[00:05:27] we just take, in the worst-case scenarios,
[00:05:30] a hypothetical price of $70 per
[00:05:32] barrel, the total value reaches
[00:05:36] a daily revenue of $5.6
[00:05:39] million. However,
[00:05:42] in petrochemical industries
[00:05:46] within the region, the economic return will be much
[00:05:49] greater than exporting crude oil alone. Herein
[00:05:53] lies the importance of the industrial city, because it does not
[00:05:56] only provide factories, it creates what is called
[00:06:00] a value-added chain, and the chain begins with
[00:06:03] oil extraction, then you
[00:06:07] or crop production, then manufacturing, packaging, and storage, then
[00:06:10] transfer,
[00:06:13] then export. Each stage of these stages
[00:06:16] adds new economic value and creates new jobs.
[00:06:20] The airport, Professor Ammar, completes this
[00:06:23] system. It does not transport passengers, it provides
[00:06:27] a fast outlet for exporting products
[00:06:30] such as food industries, medicines, medical
[00:06:33] supplies, light petrochemical
[00:06:36] products, and it accelerates the arrival of investors and experts
[00:06:40] to the region. As for the Damascus
[00:06:43] road, I mean Deir ez-Zor,
[00:06:45] it is the land artery that transports raw materials
[00:06:49] and heavy products between the eastern region and the rest
[00:06:52] of the governorates, while, as we said, the airport
[00:06:56] handles the transportation of fast and high-value shipments.
[00:06:59] We also have a project for a cancer hospital
[00:07:02] with an investment, as it was
[00:07:05] mentioned, amounting to about
[00:07:09] the economic system. It is a system.
[00:07:12] An economic and social system, because
[00:07:16] factories and roads alone, but also needs health
[00:07:19] and educational services and infrastructure
[00:07:21] capable of serving the people of the region to succeed
[00:07:25] economically and become attractive.
[00:07:28] 100%. Therefore, if we combine these
[00:07:32] projects, we are facing an integrated economic model
[00:07:36] based on investing in the geographical location,
[00:07:39] natural resources, simultaneously.
[00:07:43] This model is what
[00:07:45] many successful economies
[00:07:48] apply today, where resource-rich
[00:07:51] areas are transformed into production and export centers
[00:07:55] and not into centers for extracting raw materials.
[00:07:59] Therefore, as the defunct regime
[00:08:03] went, only the Rmeilan area
[00:08:06] and other fields. Thank you very much for your presence with us today,
[00:08:10] Dr. Mahmoud Abdel Karim, the economic expert. You were with us
[00:08:14] from Dubai. Thank you.
[00:08:25] The UN Security Council held a special session
[00:08:29] during which it heard a briefing on the threats posed by ISIS
[00:08:34] international peace and security. The head of the Office of the Under-Secretary-General
[00:08:38] for Counter-Terrorism, Oglo Gerin
[00:08:41] Niyazberdiyeva, stated that the organization is exploiting
[00:08:44] the changing security landscape in Syria to reshape
[00:08:47] its threats, calling for the safe,
[00:08:50] voluntary, and dignified repatriation of Al-Hol camp residents
[00:08:54] to their home countries. The Deputy Executive
[00:08:58] Director of the Counter-Terrorism Committee of the United Nations,
[00:09:01] Carmen Cantor, confirmed
[00:09:05] that developments in Syria underscore the importance of vigilance in
[00:09:08] confronting the threat posed by the organization. She explained
[00:09:11] that addressing the situation of former ISIS
[00:09:15] affiliates requires legal
[00:09:18] prosecution and also requires rehabilitation
[00:09:21] and integration in accordance with
[00:09:26] international efforts, the organization continues to pose a serious
[00:09:30] threat to international peace and security. Counter-terrorism operations
[00:09:33] have undermined
[00:09:35] the organization's top leadership
[00:09:39] and limited its ability to direct
[00:09:42] operations centrally. However, the organization has adapted to
[00:09:46] the new circumstances. Despite the current fragmented
[00:09:49] structure, the organization remains
[00:09:53] resilient, and affiliated entities are united around a common
[00:09:58] continues to exploit fragile security environments
[00:10:01] and protracted armed conflicts. All counter-terrorism
[00:10:05] efforts must be based on international law, including
[00:10:08] international human rights law, humanitarian law,
[00:10:11] and refugee law. Adherence
[00:10:15] not only a legal obligation, but also
[00:10:19] a fundamental practical necessity to ensure the effectiveness
[00:10:22] and legitimacy of our collective
[00:10:26] efforts. The threat posed by ISIS
[00:10:29] will continue to change,
[00:10:32] and our collective response must also evolve and change.
[00:10:36] Maintaining the progress we have made against ISIS
[00:10:39] will require protecting and strengthening regional
[00:10:42] and international cooperation and comprehensive responses based
[00:10:45] on international law. The United Nations will continue to support
[00:10:48] member states in implementing the counter-terrorism strategy
[00:10:51] and relevant Security Council resolutions.
[00:10:55] The challenge remains global, and Africa
[00:10:59] is affected much
[00:11:02] in Iraq and the Syrian Arab Republic underscore
[00:11:06] the importance of vigilance. Humanitarian challenges remain
[00:11:09] immense, and the closure of Al-Hol camp represents
[00:11:13] a huge development,
[00:11:14] and
[00:11:17] it highlights the complexity
[00:11:19] of addressing the situation of former
[00:11:23] ISIS affiliates and their families,
[00:11:27] and this issue is becoming increasingly urgent
[00:11:31] today. Ensuring effective legal prosecution and reintegration
[00:11:34] and rehabilitation measures that take into
[00:11:37] account the age group
[00:11:41] and gender dimension
[00:11:45] are all matters that have not been resolved yet. Addressing this
[00:11:48] challenge will require international cooperation, sufficient
[00:11:51] resources, and compliance with humanitarian law, international
[00:11:56] and attention to the needs of victims. The Executive Directorate, in cooperation with
[00:11:59] the Counter-Terrorism Office and other organizations, held side events
[00:12:03] to discuss responses and good practices. These exchanges highlighted the importance of international
[00:12:07] cooperation and collective action. Madam President, as
[00:12:11] the Secretary-General's report highlights, the threat posed
[00:12:14] by ISIS has not receded, but rather has fragmented
[00:12:18] and adapted to different contexts. If we resort
[00:12:22] to a single response limited to one region, and
[00:12:26] if we only rely on security measures, this solution will not be enough to solve the problem. On behalf
[00:12:29] of the Counter-Terrorism Committee, the Executive Directorate will continue
[00:12:32] to assess the implementation by member states of the Council's resolutions
[00:12:36] and will identify best practices and gaps that we will use
[00:12:40] to determine effective responses. Only through continuous international cooperation
[00:12:44] and by adopting a comprehensive
[00:12:47] to effectively address the threat posed by ISIS
[00:12:50] and its affiliates
[00:12:54] Saudi file. We have with us Professor
[00:12:57] Abdullah Zizan, a political analyst, joining us from Amman,
[00:13:01] and from Aleppo, our guest
[00:13:04] in military affairs
[00:13:07] and sub-state actors. Welcome to you both, and I will start
[00:13:11] organization today, to what extent
[00:13:14] are its threats capable of reshaping
[00:13:17] themselves? As
[00:13:20] stated in the Security Council
[00:13:23] organization exploits the changing security situation in Syria
[00:13:27] to reshape its threats. So, to what extent is it capable
[00:13:32] the region? Good evening. My greetings to you
[00:13:36] and to the viewers. The truth is that the words we heard
[00:13:40] in the Security Council today did not bring anything new from a theoretical
[00:13:43] perspective. We, as Syrians and as a revolutionary
[00:13:47] movement that existed before the liberation of northern and northwestern
[00:13:51] Syria, knew exactly how the organization operates
[00:13:54] and how it tries to adapt to the new reality
[00:13:57] that emerged after the fall of its last strongholds
[00:14:00] Baghouz. Madam, after the fall of Baghouz,
[00:14:04] the organization announced, through its leader at that time, Abu Bakr
[00:14:07] al-Baghdadi, its transition to a phase
[00:14:10] of attrition, which means a change in all
[00:14:13] fighting methods and a change in all mentalities that it used
[00:14:16] in military and security
[00:14:20] approaches, as well as media and political approaches.
[00:14:23] Therefore, before the liberation, we witnessed that the liberated
[00:14:26] areas managed by the rebels did not have any operations by the organization,
[00:14:29] unlike the areas of the SDF and the Syrian regime.
[00:14:33] Yes, the new situation that was created
[00:14:36] or that was reiterated in the Security Council for the international community,
[00:14:40] but which we Syrians understand perfectly, is that the organization
[00:14:44] adapts to the new security situation after the fall of the Syrian regime. The organization
[00:14:48] found a fluid security situation
[00:14:51] with open geographies to each other, especially
[00:14:54] after the fall of the areas of the Syrian Democratic Forces into the hands of the Syrian
[00:14:58] government, and
[00:15:00] the opening of these geographies with all their vast expanses, and with all
[00:15:04] their complexities, and with all their security problems,
[00:15:07] and they moved into the hands of the Syrian government. The organization was able to move
[00:15:11] from these narrow geographies to the entire Syrian geography,
[00:15:14] knowing that it carries the attrition mentality,
[00:15:17] and therefore operates in the form of gangs that are not organizationally
[00:15:20] linked, there are no clear administrative structures, there is a large
[00:15:24] margin. The administrative decisions taken by
[00:15:27] ISIS officials in different regions within the Syrian geography.
[00:15:31] Therefore, the ability of the organization to adapt to the new situation
[00:15:34] is not new to us. It started it after 2019,
[00:15:38] but the new thing is that it expanded significantly,
[00:15:41] especially after the victory of the Syrian
[00:15:44] revolution and the annexation of northern and eastern Syria to the Syrian
[00:15:47] government. Just allow me to add this comment: how
[00:15:51] have ISIS's capabilities
[00:15:54] in Syria changed in the recent period? What is the shape
[00:15:59] organization today? The capabilities have changed. The organization is now
[00:16:02] able to access new financial sources through kidnapping,
[00:16:05] extortion, and theft. Access to weapons
[00:16:09] and ammunition depots left by the Assad regime after its fall and the state
[00:16:15] in the first weeks after the fall, during which the organization was able to access
[00:16:19] quantities of weapons. Access to sleeper cells
[00:16:22] that were outside its areas of control, and here I am talking
[00:16:25] about the desert previously, and later reached sleeper cells in
[00:16:29] all Syrian geographies. Also, the organization's capabilities have grown
[00:16:33] through the arrival of a large number or a considerable number of
[00:16:36] foreign elements. Across the borders, because after the fall of the Syrian
[00:16:39] regime, there was no strong border control, especially with
[00:16:43] Iraq. Therefore, a large number of the organization's elements infiltrated from Iraq
[00:16:47] into Syrian territory, and we noticed
[00:16:49] that the Ministry of Interior announced in previous
[00:16:53] the organization's leaders who hold Iraqi nationality,
[00:16:56] and who were responsible for the bombing of the church
[00:17:00] in Damascus. Some of them also held Iraqi
[00:17:02] nationality. Before the Syrian Democratic Forces joined the Syrian government,
[00:17:06] we noticed how the Syrian Democratic Forces were also investing
[00:17:10] in ISIS. Therefore, all these situations or all these
[00:17:13] facts were exploited by the organization to expand its capabilities
[00:17:16] and also to develop the form it had
[00:17:20] taken after 2019 through not operating in a clear
[00:17:24] manner, not engaging in direct frontal clashes with the organization's
[00:17:27] enemy, relying on simple, swift, and lightning
[00:17:31] strikes, and large-scale media and political investment in its operations
[00:17:35] and exploiting the mistakes of the other party.
[00:17:38] Yes, of course. I welcome again Professor
[00:17:41] Abdullah, the political analyst, our guest from Amman. Welcome,
[00:17:45] Professor Abdullah. What, first of all,
[00:17:48] caught your attention
[00:17:50] from what was said in this Security Council
[00:17:54] session, in your opinion?
[00:17:57] Good evening to you, your guests, and
[00:18:01] fact, we now feel
[00:18:04] shift in dealing with Syria. While Syria during
[00:18:08] the Assad era was part of the problem of ISIS,
[00:18:11] Syria has become part of the solution. We all know
[00:18:17] the crisis that the country
[00:18:20] sectarian problems and chaos.
[00:18:24] That is, the environment in which it can expand
[00:18:28] and grow is the environment of chaos that the former
[00:18:31] Syrian regime provided for it. In fact, there
[00:18:35] was direct and indirect support for ISIS,
[00:18:38] because ISIS did not direct its arrows at the Syrian regime
[00:18:42] as much as it directed its arrows at the rebels in the liberated areas.
[00:18:46] So, Syria suddenly transformed from a state sponsoring
[00:18:49] terrorism and a state
[00:18:52] that was the root cause of the ISIS problem
[00:18:56] to a state that is part of the solution.
[00:18:58] The new Syrian state, the new Syrian leadership
[00:19:02] headed by Mr. Ahmed Al-Shara, is fully serious about
[00:19:05] unlike But despite all that you have said,
[00:19:09] despite all that you have said, and with Syria transforming into
[00:19:13] terrorism, and previously it was a state supporting this
[00:19:17] environment and blackmailing
[00:19:19] with this file, despite all this, the Deputy
[00:19:23] Executive Director of the Counter-Terrorism Committee at the United
[00:19:25] Nations said that developments in
[00:19:29] Syria confirm the importance of vigilance in confronting
[00:19:33] the organization's threat. What is
[00:19:35] the meaning of this statement?
[00:19:38] Here, we must emphasize that the situation in Syria is very
[00:19:43] organization thrives on chaos, and therefore there
[00:19:47] is a responsibility on the United Nations and a responsibility on major
[00:19:51] powers, the United States of America, and the European Union, to support
[00:19:54] Syria and support the stability of Syria
[00:19:57] and curb those who want
[00:19:59] sectarian
[00:20:03] Sweida or elsewhere. Syria must
[00:20:06] be unified, and therefore what the official in the United
[00:20:09] Nations said is 100% correct,
[00:20:12] that the danger of ISIS may increase,
[00:20:17] not only inside Syria but also outside Syria if
[00:20:20] Syria is not supported and its stability is not guaranteed.
[00:20:24] Syria must return completely stable,
[00:20:27] completely unified, with all territories under the control
[00:20:30] of the Syrian state. Only then can we say that ISIS
[00:20:33] has completely diminished in Syria.
[00:20:37] The responsibility in the Iraqi side of
[00:20:41] this region, either
[00:20:44] there is no support for the Syrian state
[00:20:47] and some areas like Sweida and others are allowed to
[00:20:50] Therefore, in this context, what is required from the United Nations? How can the United
[00:20:54] Nations play a positive role in helping Syria
[00:20:58] confront this threat, given that the United
[00:21:01] Nations says that this is a threat, there is a threat
[00:21:04] today?
[00:21:07] the financial level, financial support
[00:21:11] this organization. Military
[00:21:14] organization thrived on wars and
[00:21:18] battles. Expertise and logistical support for the Syrian
[00:21:22] state are needed to know the locations of that organization.
[00:21:25] We know that during the Syrian revolution, the organization
[00:21:29] operated openly in the open desert, and cars
[00:21:33] would travel in tens and perhaps hundreds of
[00:21:36] convoys, and not a single plane,
[00:21:39] neither Russian, nor Iranian, nor from the Syrian regime, would take off to bomb
[00:21:42] those convoys. So, we need financial support, intelligence
[00:21:46] support, military support, in addition to moral support
[00:21:50] for the Syrian government to end the state
[00:21:54] of perhaps sectarian
[00:21:57] Syrian government cannot tolerate. When there
[00:22:00] is a problem, for example, in Syria with Qasd or
[00:22:05] Sweida, this is an environment
[00:22:08] that supports ISIS because ISIS
[00:22:11] tells its followers that
[00:22:15] we are fighting a specific sect, that we are the Muslims
[00:22:18] and others are not Muslims. We must prove
[00:22:22] to the misguided
[00:22:25] the ignorant who still follow that organization,
[00:22:29] that this state is a state
[00:22:33] for all Syrians, regardless of their sects. There is no
[00:22:40] file has been completely closed. This is from one side. From another
[00:22:43] side, the issue of Israel and Israeli
[00:22:46] interventions. This is the responsibility of the United Nations to pressure
[00:22:50] the Zionist entity to stop its support for
[00:22:53] the immigration or the
[00:22:56] expansion
[00:22:58] of the Zionist entity in areas in Syria, because this threatens the geography
[00:23:02] of Syria, the unity of Syria, and the independence of Syria. Therefore,
[00:23:05] this will affect the focus of the Syrian administration
[00:23:08] in fighting that organization. So, the United Nations bears a great
[00:23:12] responsibility. It must intervene immediately to
[00:23:16] solve the problem of the Zionist entity, to solve the problem
[00:23:20] of some areas that are trying to escape the control of the Syrian state, and this requires
[00:23:24] a decision, it does not require money. When the government wanted to
[00:23:27] enter Sweida, within a few hours, it was in
[00:23:31] the heart of Sweida, but it was forced to leave due to
[00:23:35] equations. I will return to you, Professor. Yes,
[00:23:38] I will return to you shortly, Professor Abd Allah. Allow me to transfer
[00:23:42] the point you raised to my guest, Professor Ammar. Our guest says
[00:23:47] chaos. In your opinion, how can the organization be prevented
[00:23:51] from recruiting new elements? I
[00:23:56] of factors that need to be considered
[00:23:59] and that will help dry up the sources that
[00:24:03] the organization relies on for recruitment. First and foremost,
[00:24:07] developing the tools used by official
[00:24:10] bodies concerned with fighting the organization,
[00:24:13] intelligence, the Ministry of Interior, and the Ministry of Defense, primarily
[00:24:16] to pursue the organization in a very big way, especially at the technical
[00:24:20] level. Today, the organization can recruit,
[00:24:24] plan, and communicate through Telegram groups
[00:24:27] or various communication methods, some of which are encrypted
[00:24:30] and some of which are unknown or cannot be penetrated.
[00:24:34] This, of course, the concerned
[00:24:37] ministries have accumulated a great deal of experience,
[00:24:41] more than ten years of fighting the organization in northern
[00:24:44] and eastern Syria. However, this experience, as they say, is necessary but not
[00:24:48] sufficient. It is a necessary but not sufficient condition. It must be developed
[00:24:51] to adapt to the new reality of fighting the organization.
[00:24:54] This is first. Second, there must be close
[00:24:58] and clearly structured cooperation between Syrian society and the concerned
[00:25:02] ministries, especially the Ministry of Interior and intelligence. Syrian
[00:25:05] society cannot rely
[00:25:08] institutions concerned with fighting the organization to fight
[00:25:14] to the state. All Syrians
[00:25:18] Syrian society itself, and Syrian society must
[00:25:21] also participate in this process through cooperation between it and the concerned
[00:25:25] official institutions, and this comes through
[00:25:29] clarifying the mechanisms of cooperation between the institution and society.
[00:25:32] Third, genuine regional cooperation, not
[00:25:36] only at the information level, but perhaps by conducting operations on both sides
[00:25:39] of the borders. ISIS is not a Syrian problem. Solving the problem of ISIS
[00:25:43] in Syria does not mean the end of the organization. It is an regional
[00:25:46] and international problem, and therefore there must be a great
[00:25:50] deal of coordination between regional countries in fighting the organization,
[00:25:53] starting from Turkey to Iraq, to Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt,
[00:25:57] Lebanon, and other countries concerned with this file. We cannot rely
[00:26:00] only on the market effort to solve the problem of ISIS inside Syria,
[00:26:04] because if we manage to solve it now in
[00:26:08] the region or in some neighboring countries, it will return to enter
[00:26:11] Syria again. The fourth point that I also believe is
[00:26:14] very important is developing the economic situation, and this is also the concern
[00:26:18] of regional and international countries. Turning the wheel of the economy
[00:26:22] genuinely and attracting urgent, important, and large
[00:26:24] investments to Syria will lead to the economy's
[00:26:28] recovery, and thus Syrian youth will be busy working
[00:26:32] and building and taking care of building a family and rebuilding
[00:26:35] homes. All of this will make the youth
[00:26:38] or the Syrian youth not fall prey to the organization's propaganda or not fall
[00:26:42] prey to the need that the organization exploits to recruit this Syrian
[00:26:46] youth to do something that he may see as simple, but it is
[00:26:50] part of a large and very dangerous chain. The fifth and final point,
[00:26:54] from my perspective, is increasing security
[00:26:57] and media awareness, and this is the role of all The official
[00:27:01] and unofficial media institutions, all of which carry the national concern,
[00:27:04] the Syrian youth must always and continuously
[00:27:08] realize that involvement with the organization
[00:27:11] in any work, no matter how small, will lead
[00:27:14] him to confront the state later, and this will lead
[00:27:18] to the destruction of his future
[00:27:22] feel that he is only carrying out the transportation process, not
[00:27:25] the booby-trapping or bombing process or transporting people. He is
[00:27:29] transporting some materials that are used later in bombing operations.
[00:27:34] the security level, at the religious level, and at the political level
[00:27:38] is very important, and we must cooperate with it all as media
[00:27:41] institutions with each other through dignitaries, through Friday preachers,
[00:27:45] through media platforms, through media activists,
[00:27:48] through official media platforms.
[00:27:51] Beautiful, I mean, Professor Abdullah, you listened
[00:27:54] to what Professor Ammar said. Professor
[00:27:58] Ammar spoke on several levels. He also meant
[00:28:02] that the ideology of the organization should be fought from the beginning
[00:28:05] and, I mean, close the door to
[00:28:09] any step for this organization
[00:28:12] to attract
[00:28:15] the Syrian youth today. In your opinion, after
[00:28:19] the liberation of Syria, a new reality for the organization. What is the tactic
[00:28:22] that the organization has adopted, especially since it no longer has
[00:28:26] a place, for example,
[00:28:28] to launch from, as it did previously in Raqqa or other
[00:28:33] areas?
[00:28:35] Certainly, the organization received a very strong blow after
[00:28:38] the fall of the Syrian regime and after the liberation. The blow
[00:28:42] it received was not only a military blow, but also an ideological
[00:28:45] blow,
[00:28:48] organization and those that organization was trying to recruit,
[00:28:52] whether from Syria or elsewhere,
[00:28:54] found that this state provides
[00:28:58] the serial freedoms on which ISIS
[00:29:01] in Syria was based, specifically that the defunct regime
[00:29:05] is an infidel regime in quotation marks,
[00:29:09] spreading atheism, preventing mosques, preventing prayer.
[00:29:12] He was truthful in that part, but the mechanism
[00:29:16] of the solution was the problem. The
[00:29:19] rebels knew that that regime was
[00:29:23] suppressing freedoms, preventing, for example,
[00:29:27] prayer in the army or other places, but he did
[00:29:30] not do what he did.
[00:29:33] Therefore, we must fight that organization
[00:29:36] not only militarily. Since the organization received a blow,
[00:29:40] as you confirmed, and it has no starting point or
[00:29:44] safe places, how does it carry out operations from time to time?
[00:29:48] and,
[00:29:50] you know, it has carried out more than one operation, and the Syrian state also announced
[00:29:54] striking the organization's hideouts and arresting many
[00:29:57] of the organization's members in several areas. We are talking about Aleppo,
[00:30:01] about the desert, about the Aleppo countryside, and also the eastern
[00:30:05] region in general.
[00:30:07] The tactic for the state has changed,
[00:30:10] meaning the idea for ISIS,
[00:30:13] sorry, that the idea of the state remains and expands has completely
[00:30:16] ended. It used to control very vast areas, meaning larger than the country
[00:30:20] of Lebanon, meaning in terms of geographical area. It used to control a large area,
[00:30:23] and therefore it used to operate with the mentality
[00:30:27] that it owned the caliphate or the state or what have you, but now
[00:30:30] its tactics have completely changed. It is still active, still
[00:30:34] effective, but it is now operating within a guerrilla
[00:30:37] warfare system, meaning it targets specific personalities,
[00:30:40] it tries to assassinate a specific person, meaning in today's report in the Security Council
[00:30:44] session, it was mentioned that President Ahmed Al-Sharaa was subjected to five assassination attempts in
[00:30:48] 2025, including the Minister of Interior and the Minister
[00:30:51] of Foreign Affairs, Al-Shaibani, and Mr. Anas Khattab. So,
[00:30:54] I mean, the way that organization deals
[00:30:57] with things has changed.