SYRIANNEWS — broadcast 20260920 043000 UTC 476 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:03] Yes, a final question, Dr. Mahmoud. Does the handover of these [00:00:06] points raise perhaps in the future or after [00:00:09] a short period the level of diplomatic representation between Syria [00:00:12] and Russia? [00:00:16] Mr. Mahmoud, with us in this Yes, I think in this particular diplomatic direction, [00:00:19] and there might be commercial and tourism cooperation, by the way. [00:00:22] There are efforts being made and I believe that [00:00:26] the Syrians are trying to arrange [00:00:29] things. The Syrian embassy in Moscow, and by [00:00:33] the end of the year, we might hear about the appointment of a new diplomatic [00:00:36] body in the embassy. Also, we must mention that [00:00:39] weeks ago, [00:00:41] companies to invest in [00:00:42] for the bombardment of targets by Syrian Airlines resumed its air flights once a week from [00:00:46] Damascus to Moscow, meaning there is a desire [00:00:50] for cooperation, at least commercial, [00:00:52] civilian, tourist, [00:00:54] and diplomatic. [00:00:57] But, there are [00:01:00] major strategic issues pending between [00:01:04] the two parties, there's no room to discuss them now, but [00:01:07] things are not going completely smoothly. There are [00:01:11] obstacles and international pressures, [00:01:15] and there is also something related to the past, [00:01:18] meaning the presence of Bashar al-Assad in Russia and thousands [00:01:21] of officers of the former regime army [00:01:24] and intelligence [00:01:27] Daraa or two criminals in in Moscow, and this also constitutes [00:01:30] a major point of contention [00:01:32] between the two parties, and in addition, of course, [00:01:35] to [00:01:38] priorities in military bases. I believe [00:01:39] who participated in that until the bases are gone, other relations will begin, [00:01:42] and by the way, there are dozens of agreements between Moscow [00:01:46] and Damascus from the days of the former regime, but weren't they [00:01:50] invalidated by the fall of the former regime? [00:01:52] All of them were frozen, [00:01:55] they were completely frozen. There is [00:01:58] only the memorandum of understanding that was signed [00:02:02] last month. The rest of them were all agreed upon [00:02:05] by the two parties during the visit of the Foreign Minister to Moscow, and I was [00:02:09] in Moscow and I know that they agreed [00:02:12] to review all the agreements, [00:02:15] to revise them, meaning no agreement is [00:02:18] valid except after review, and therefore all [00:02:21] agreements are now frozen except for the last memorandum [00:02:25] of understanding. Yes, Dr. Mahmoud [00:02:27] such thing as coincidence in Al-Hamza, the political analyst, The stability of Syria today not and will and professionalism in you were with us from Doha. Thank you very much. [00:02:31] Mr. Mohammed, we will also continue in the second [00:02:34] part of this episode. Alright, let's [00:02:49] through which they can apprehend villages against [00:02:52] Welcome back, viewers, to our second topic, where the internal security forces [00:02:55] in Tartous Governorate, in cooperation with the Anti-Terrorism [00:02:59] Department, arrested five senior [00:03:02] officers and leaders of the Air Force in [00:03:05] to keep this fleeing man on the former regime who participated in put in planning, managing, [00:03:08] and carrying out [00:03:11] of honorable aerial bombardment operations that resulted in widespread human casualties [00:03:14] dozens of meetings at do to activists in and extensive damage. More details in this report. [00:03:18] No escape for criminals from accountability, and anyone whose [00:03:21] responsibility is proven will be held accountable according to [00:03:23] the law. For many long years, aerial bombardment was one of [00:03:27] the most destructive aspects of the war on Syrians. Today, [00:03:31] the names of those who managed that weapon return to the forefront, [00:03:34] but this time through the gate of justice. 15 [00:03:38] officers in the Air Force of the former regime [00:03:41] were arrested by the internal security forces during September [00:03:44] issue since 2011, in an operation that covered several governorates [00:03:47] and focused on military figures who held [00:03:50] various positions within the aerial bombardment system. In [00:03:54] Tartous, the internal security forces, [00:03:56] the ones who want to remove this in cooperation with the Anti-Terrorism Department, arrested [00:03:58] five senior officers and leaders of the [00:04:02] Air Force in the former regime who participated in planning, managing, [00:04:05] and carrying out aerial bombardment operations that resulted in [00:04:09] widespread human casualties and the destruction of residential [00:04:12] areas. The head of internal security in Tartous, Colonel Abdul Aal Mohammad Abdul [00:04:16] Aal, confirmed that the arrests included pilots, field [00:04:20] place to preserve leaders, and officers in operations rooms, namely Major General [00:04:23] Mohammad Fajer Ali, Brigadier General Pilot Abdullah Ali [00:04:27] Maala, Colonel Pilot Nidal Hussein Saleh, [00:04:31] Colonel Mohammad Ali Salim, and Lieutenant Colonel Pilot Talib Abdul [00:04:34] Karim Hassan, noting that investigations are ongoing with [00:04:39] in later periods and to operations that occur on the detainees to determine their criminal responsibilities for the raids and violations [00:04:43] attributed to them, in preparation for referring them to the competent court [00:04:48] officers, especially in according to legal procedures. The Ministry Hama Governorate. This of Interior continues its efforts to pursue officials [00:04:52] of the former regime and its militias involved [00:04:55] in committing crimes and violations against the Syrian [00:04:58] people. On September 10th, it arrested nine [00:05:01] pilots in Latakia and another pilot in [00:05:04] Aleppo on the 5th of the same month, based on the principle of [00:05:08] no impunity and achieving [00:05:11] transitional justice and ensuring the rights of victims [00:05:14] and their families. [00:05:18] And to talk more about this topic, viewers, we are joined [00:05:21] from Berlin by Major General Mohammad or Mahmoud [00:05:25] al-Saud, the security expert. Welcome, [00:05:28] file, and we also have from the first topic, Mr. [00:05:32] Mohammad Nasser al-Baqai, the military expert. I'll start [00:05:35] with you again, Mr. Mohammad Nasser. Militarily, how can [00:05:39] this operation be assessed, [00:05:42] the arrest of a new group of [00:05:46] elements or officers of the former [00:05:48] regime who participated in aerial bombardment [00:05:52] operations and planning [00:05:55] aircraft on Syrian civilians? Madam, [00:05:58] we noticed from the beginning of the liberation that the Syrian state, [00:06:02] through its president, His Excellency the President of the Sharia Court, [00:06:05] told all former Syrian army personnel, "Go, you are [00:06:08] free." The Ministry of Defense [00:06:11] and the Ministry of Interior, [00:06:15] after a security review, meaning "Go, you are free," [00:06:19] this is what I wanted to add. The Ministry of Interior and the Ministry of Defense [00:06:22] took the addresses of those officers who made settlements and were not [00:06:26] given full immunity. I mean, if you have [00:06:29] a settlement, if there's nothing on you, colloquially, no one will come [00:06:33] for you. But if it's proven that you have a confession or it's proven that you [00:06:37] committed a crime here or a murder here or a murder, you will be summoned. [00:06:40] Therefore, the Ministry of Interior [00:06:44] and Defense created a database of information. This [00:06:47] database included all the officers [00:06:52] the former Syrian Arab Army. From here, the process of screening [00:06:55] and investigation began, which was carried [00:06:58] out by the intelligence agency. I mean, Officer [00:07:01] So-and-so was an officer in place So-and-so. This place participated [00:07:05] in bombing, killing, or creating mass graves. A number of [00:07:08] former officers are summoned and interrogated, [00:07:11] and consequently, the chain of events began to unfold, [00:07:15] and confessions began to follow one after another, [00:07:18] and these criminal names [00:07:22] began to fall one after another, and the five [00:07:25] officers who were recently arrested [00:07:29] are four pilot officers and the first officer [00:07:33] was the commander of the 74th Air Defense Regiment, Major General [00:07:36] Mohammad Fajer Ali. This was next to [00:07:40] the Air Defense College in his residence. He was not a pilot officer. When [00:07:44] he was arrested in the operations [00:07:47] he was carrying out, he was in the Homs operations room, [00:07:51] participating in drawing up plans for bombing, killing, [00:07:55] and besieging the rebellious [00:07:58] the regime at that time. This means he is from the class that [00:08:01] is considered advanced in the military college. All those [00:08:04] officers, what does [00:08:08] this mean for the Syrian state or for the ordinary [00:08:11] citizen? There were many officers in the army whom the Syrian [00:08:14] state did not request and were not [00:08:16] prison. This means that there is real [00:08:20] transitional justice. Why did they take so-and-so and not [00:08:23] so-and-so? What does this [00:08:27] the West? It debunks the theory, it debunks [00:08:30] for them the theory that the Syrian state is arresting a certain [00:08:33] group or a certain sect based on sectarian affiliation or [00:08:37] background. So, transitional justice will include [00:08:41] everyone. Whoever's hands are stained with the blood of the Syrian people [00:08:44] will be brought for investigation, and as they say [00:08:48] colloquially, he will face justice. Whoever did not [00:08:51] participate will not be touched by anyone. Yes, okay. [00:08:54] Major General Mahmoud, in your opinion, the timing of this operation [00:08:58] and even the coordination, how can [00:09:01] that be read from a theoretical perspective in this [00:09:04] context? [00:09:07] Welcome. Thank you for your guest and the esteemed [00:09:11] viewers. [00:09:14] Of course, first of all, let's pray for the souls of [00:09:17] the martyrs of the internal security forces who [00:09:20] fell in a treacherous and cowardly [00:09:23] attack. And our prayers [00:09:26] for the injured for a speedy recovery and condolences [00:09:29] to their families. [00:09:33] Of course, from what emerged from [00:09:37] the investigations and from the military records, as you mentioned, [00:09:41] there are military records classifying [00:09:44] the officers who participated [00:09:47] one day during the revolution [00:09:50] in bombing and killing [00:09:53] and in destruction [00:09:57] of homes or civilian [00:10:00] infrastructure. So, among these [00:10:02] investigations, the five officers [00:10:06] who were arrested accordingly, and there was [00:10:09] a previous operation a few days ago in Latakia that also resulted [00:10:13] in the arrest of nine officers. [00:10:17] This is a series of operations carried out by the [00:10:20] security authorities in cooperation with the Anti-Terrorism [00:10:23] Department. It is also preceded by [00:10:27] highly precise and rapid [00:10:30] logistical intelligence work that allows for professional [00:10:33] execution without disruption [00:10:36] or confusion in the [00:10:39] surrounding area of these arrested [00:10:43] officers or detainees. And of course, now [00:10:46] investigations are underway against them [00:10:50] to refer them if their participation [00:10:53] in bombing and displacement [00:10:56] and killing [00:10:57] and destruction [00:11:01] of homes over people's heads [00:11:04] is proven. If these procedures are confirmed, [00:11:08] they will be referred for investigation, and then from investigation to the judiciary [00:11:11] to receive their due punishment according to legal principles [00:11:15] and law. Yes, okay, Mr. [00:11:19] Mohammad, in your opinion, why did these people hide all this [00:11:22] time? As you mentioned at the beginning, they had given their addresses [00:11:26] and signed settlements indicating that they were [00:11:29] not wanted, and now they have been arrested, and most likely not at the addresses they [00:11:33] provided. How were they able to hide for so long, [00:11:36] and do you think they knew they would reach this point? Of course, now, [00:11:40] Ms. Rama, the Syrian state has many, many [00:11:43] concerns and problems. I mean, the problems of the Syrian state [00:11:47] are not limited to arresting four people in Tartous or four terrorists in [00:11:52] Latakia. They might have thought they could [00:11:56] escape like others who escaped outside Syria to [00:11:59] Lebanon, outside Lebanon. We know [00:12:02] that many of them fled to Lebanon, Russia, [00:12:06] and Iran. Perhaps these people were not lucky enough to [00:12:09] escape, so they remained waiting for an opportunity [00:12:12] to escape anyway. I, as a former [00:12:15] officer and a detainee in intelligence branches, I was detained for four years in intelligence [00:12:18] branches and I was one of the first revolutionary activists in [00:12:22] 2011. I want to state something very [00:12:25] precisely, hoping that the security agencies, and I know [00:12:29] they know more than I do, [00:12:32] most officers and I [00:12:35] lived through them and saw them in the air force intelligence, [00:12:38] political intelligence, state security, military security, the Fourth [00:12:41] Division, the Republican Guard, most of the officers [00:12:44] who served in these units participated in [00:12:47] killing the Syrian people, some to varying degrees, [00:12:50] and I believe that security knows that. There are, of course, other [00:12:54] sectors, the Third Division, the Seventh Division, the Ninth Division [00:12:58] contributed to killing the Syrian people in destroying villages in Daraa, in [00:13:01] Sahnaaya, in [00:13:05] They contributed, to varying degrees, but those [00:13:08] branches that were in Damascus here and had [00:13:12] branches in all governorates were the fundamental [00:13:14] pillar, perhaps believing that they [00:13:18] would establish the rule of the fleeing Assad, and before him, his deceased [00:13:21] father, in order to lead us to a destroyed [00:13:25] Syria, either for a livelihood or [00:13:30] the throne. But their hopes were dashed by the Syrian [00:13:34] people's revolution and the presence Syrians, [00:13:37] struggling like President Sharia and Al-Shaibani [00:13:41] and thousands of fighters who entered [00:13:44] Damascus, into liberated Syria. This is what [00:13:48] I wanted to say. And those who fought for 14 years, [00:13:51] of course, there are many Syrians who fought. I mean, when [00:13:55] we used to register in intelligence branches, [00:13:57] I mean, excuse me, inside the network, [00:14:01] we were of a certain class, and outside the network, [00:14:05] it was a different class. They differentiated this [00:14:09] and now every Syrian knows who his [00:14:13] enemy is, and the other side knows who its [00:14:16] rival is. We are its rivals, [00:14:21] fool from the throne so that Syria returns [00:14:25] to all its children without discrimination between one sect or another. [00:14:28] Yes, okay. Major General, I mean, if we return [00:14:32] to the topic of [00:14:35] these arrests or detentions, do [00:14:38] things only stop at the issue [00:14:41] of interrogating former officers [00:14:45] and gathering information from them, or does it require more [00:14:49] than that, security monitoring, follow-up, intelligence [00:14:51] work, also in addition to that, can we link [00:14:55] these officers not only to previous events [00:14:58] before the fall of the former regime, but also to what happened [00:15:04] the ground from time [00:15:05] to time? [00:15:09] Of course, let me explain to [00:15:13] you the issue of [00:15:16] transitional justice. Yes, transitional justice [00:15:20] is not just a judicial institution, [00:15:23] it's not just a legal platform, but it requires [00:15:26] intelligence, it requires [00:15:30] security authorities, it requires follow-up, it requires investigation, [00:15:33] it requires referral procedures and so on. That is, [00:15:38] a complete series of procedures, whether they are security [00:15:42] procedures or judicial procedures or even legislation. [00:15:45] So, no one will escape [00:15:49] punishment if it is proven that [00:15:52] he committed war crimes or [00:15:56] crimes against humanity or contributed [00:15:58] to killing [00:16:01] and destroying homes [00:16:04] and displacing civilians. This is one. Two, [00:16:08] we must know that we are dealing with [00:16:11] chronic criminals, not [00:16:14] a criminal who planned a murder or [00:16:17] a theft. And now [00:16:20] terrified, trying [00:16:22] to strike. [00:16:26] The majority of them are currently thinking [00:16:30] that they can return and feed on the blood of the people. They are [00:16:33] trying, they are hoping, they are [00:16:35] anticipating. These are not normal [00:16:39] criminals. One, two, or three, [00:16:43] the intelligence apparatus in Syria is not small and not [00:16:47] weak. It tracks, it has [00:16:51] records, it has lists of officers and individuals, [00:16:54] lists of [00:16:57] pilots, it has lists of those who defected, [00:17:01] lists [00:17:04] of, as they say colloquially, "Shabiha" (thugs). [00:17:07] It has lists and rules, and there are [00:17:10] priorities, as my esteemed [00:17:12] guest said, there are [00:17:15] dealing with these criminals. They are [00:17:19] not out of mind, nor out of sight, nor [00:17:22] out of consideration, but rather each one's [00:17:25] turn comes at its time. There are [00:17:28] priorities that the security authorities in Syria [00:17:32] undertake. There is this, there is that, which is most [00:17:35] important. Therefore, the security authority is always not an ideal [00:17:39] authority, but a realistic authority. [00:17:42] It strives for idealism through intelligence. [00:17:46] The intelligence apparatus, the more competent the intelligence apparatus [00:17:49] is, the more vigilant the eyes of the security [00:17:52] authorities are, and the mind [00:17:56] is open, and so is the desire [00:18:01] work, because there is no [00:18:04] technical work, especially in Syria, there is no such thing [00:18:08] as coincidence. What the security authorities are doing now in cooperation with the [00:18:12] anti-terrorism unit and intelligence agencies is not [00:18:15] accidental, but rather a series of continuous , precise, [00:18:19] professional operations with a scientific [00:18:23] academic approach [00:18:26] individuals who are involved or [00:18:29] have been involved first and foremost in the building of the Syrian [00:18:33] people. There is no escape or [00:18:36] refuge. They committed crimes against [00:18:39] the Syrian people. Yes, the Minister of Transitional Justice [00:18:43] clarifies this matter completely. Okay, Mr. [00:18:47] Mohammed, regarding the issue of investigations, [00:18:50] verification, and security and intelligence follow-ups, I quote [00:18:54] verbatim the statement by the Syrian News [00:18:58] Agency SANA that the seized military records, such as [00:19:01] flight logs and coordinate [00:19:04] maps, contributed to proving the charges against these [00:19:07] individuals, as you mentioned at the beginning, that there is always evidence that these individuals [00:19:11] who were found at this point have been [00:19:15] linked to massacres and operations, [00:19:18] perhaps even genocide, against the Syrian people. Well, if we [00:19:22] also talk about the mechanism of accessing these [00:19:25] records and linking them to these individuals, to what extent [00:19:29] can the huge amount of data held by the state [00:19:32] be used to reach another number of [00:19:36] these criminals? In any case, Madam Rama, [00:19:39] on the day of liberation, there was a security [00:19:43] unit that appeared to be planned and distributed [00:19:46] from the beginning of the attack and the beginning [00:19:49] of the liberation. Every [00:19:52] company or group went to a specific [00:19:57] the archives and documents. We know that many of the [00:20:01] archives were stolen or burned or destroyed by an intentional act [00:20:04] or on purpose. Criminal records, security [00:20:08] and criminal matters, but [00:20:12] by God's grace and God's will, [00:20:15] those people escaped before they could burn those [00:20:19] records. And as an officer, I know very well that in every unit, [00:20:23] there is a record of the on-duty [00:20:26] airports. I mean, every aircraft has a record of who [00:20:29] went out on it, who bombed areas, the coordinates, [00:20:33] all of this is recorded in the pilots' [00:20:36] and aircrafts' records. I mean, those who used to go out to bomb [00:20:40] villages and safe [00:20:44] and secure cities, each of them boasted that he [00:20:47] bombed such and such and destroyed such and such. And all of this [00:20:51] was recorded in his military record. From [00:20:54] here, the Syrian state obtained this archive [00:20:58] and, of course, dozens, even hundreds, of Syrian [00:21:01] security personnel who are mentioned, with their determination, [00:21:04] followed up day and night to identify [00:21:08] the names and cross-reference the names with each other. I mean, [00:21:11] here, an officer was arrested who confessed about the officer at the specific [00:21:14] airport. Both records were brought together, and there was a cross-referencing [00:21:18] of information that led to [00:21:25] of course, of course, of course, in any case, [00:21:28] no one will escape, no one will escape punishment. Hopefully, [00:21:32] God will grant them long lives so we can bring them [00:21:35] one by one to prison, and I don't think anyone of them will escape. [00:21:39] I have several options, either God takes his soul [00:21:42] and he dies, or he escapes outside Syria, or he goes to [00:21:46] prison. Yes, Mr. Mohammad Nasser Al-Baqai, military expert, my guest [00:21:50] in the studio, thank you very much. Thanks are also extended to my [00:21:52] guest in Berlin, [00:21:55] Major General Mahmoud Al-Saud, security [00:21:59] expert. Thank you very much. Our thanks are also extended [00:22:02] to you, dear viewers, for watching us in this episode. We will meet you in future [00:22:06] episodes. Goodbye. [00:23:10] restore hope not only for Syrians but for the entire [00:23:12] region. [00:23:17] only serves Syria but also serves the entire region, and it is a shared [00:23:21] interest for everyone. Syria now, as I mentioned [00:23:23] to you, has great opportunities, and many [00:23:27] have seized them, especially Gulf countries. Investments [00:23:30] have started flowing into Syria successively. [00:23:33] Our people in the UAE are opportunists, [00:23:37] so Dubai Ports quickly invested in Tartous [00:23:41] Port. [00:23:44] And before an international scene awaiting the path of the new [00:23:47] Syria, the Republic of Turkey was among [00:23:50] the first countries to reopen [00:23:54] its embassy in Damascus [00:23:57] and opened its crossings and supply lines. [00:24:01] Today, we are talking about [00:24:04] presidential and ministerial levels and 40 [00:24:08] agreements and memoranda of understanding. Based on this [00:24:11] solid foundation, our discussions today focused on activating [00:24:15] the joint higher committee between [00:24:17] our two countries, that Syria stands [00:24:20] with its full sovereignty to chart its national paths with free will [00:24:23] and chooses its partnerships and directs the compass of its investments [00:24:27] and development based on its supreme interests. [00:24:41] Diplomatic presence in [00:24:43] Syria [00:24:45] is not just a protocol procedure. Every [00:24:49] representation [00:24:51] means a new channel for communication and a wider [00:24:55] space for dialogue and cooperation. [00:24:59] Today, Damascus is witnessing the ceremonies [00:25:02] of accrediting ambassadors for Arab and foreign [00:25:04] countries in a scene that reflects the return [00:25:08] of diplomatic presence to Syria. [00:25:11] Syria opens its doors [00:25:14] to the world, and the world expands its presence in [00:25:18] Damascus. [00:25:35] Today we are opening the Consular Services Office in [00:25:38] office is the third office to be opened [00:25:41] inside Syria this [00:25:42] year. [00:26:16] One of the first delegations to visit Damascus was the [00:26:19] German delegation. [00:26:26] We believe today that there is a great opportunity to develop [00:26:30] this relationship between Syria [00:26:32] and Germany. [00:26:38] It is a very important opportunity to be exploited by German [00:26:44] Syrian sectors. [00:26:56] We have passed the stage of introduction and building trust, and now [00:26:59] it is the right time to start working. [00:27:32] And Air Defense, a shining and advanced [00:27:36] model befitting this country and this blessed [00:27:40] army. I swear by God Almighty, I swear by God [00:27:43] Almighty, that I will defend [00:27:46] my homeland, that I will defend my homeland. [00:28:17] God willing, this festival will be an annual [00:28:21] festival held every [00:28:24] year in one of the landmarks of Aleppo city [00:28:27] and its regions. [00:28:43] Because the distance between the street and the decision-makers [00:28:46] is a wall that hides the truth. We are here [00:28:50] and [00:28:53] everywhere, filled with questions [00:28:56] and problems, [00:29:01] to carry the voice [00:29:02] of the people [00:29:08] and search for a space for solutions with decision-makers. [00:29:11] A link, [00:29:17] we shorten the distance [00:29:20] and bridge the gap [00:29:22] because [00:29:25] your voice is [00:29:26] the compass. [00:30:10] Hello, viewers. I am Hiba Al-Musalama. I greet you from here in [00:30:13] Raqqa Governorate. This is a special interview with Abdul Rahman [00:30:17] Salama, Governor of Raqqa, [00:30:21] to ask him about the reality of the city [00:30:25] socially and economically, and what [00:30:29] the people of Raqqa want. Welcome, Governor, to the Al-Ikhbariya [00:30:32] screen. Welcome, teacher. Thank you very much. Thank you for welcoming [00:30:36] us. We start with you [00:30:40] from the position of Secretary General of the Presidency [00:30:43] of the Republic, then Deputy Governor of Aleppo, [00:30:46] and now Governor [00:30:49] of Raqqa. You took up this position, Governor, [00:30:52] at a very sensitive time [00:30:55] for Syria, especially Raqqa Governorate. [00:30:59] محافظه.