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[00:00:00] An apology to the Syrian people. Syrians do not
[00:00:06] or in participation in this accept that after 14 years you come to offer an apology. What are the solutions today so that
[00:00:09] we can reach and raise the national discourse against all
[00:00:12] other discourses, away from external channels, away
[00:00:16] from models and others? Social
[00:00:18] justice. A person, when he feels
[00:00:22] that he has justice,
[00:00:26] his grievance is resolved,
[00:00:29] he no longer demands anything else, he even stops demanding an apology if
[00:00:32] you want. There are absent
[00:00:34] and we are noticing its effect, injustices, there are victims, there are grievances,
[00:00:38] existing. Unfortunately, some
[00:00:41] channels, instead of dealing with this situation
[00:00:44] and understanding this sensitive issue, should not be dealt
[00:00:48] Network for Human Rights, you were with us from with at all with backgrounds as you mentioned. We must
[00:00:52] distance ideological and sectarian backgrounds from
[00:00:56] these events. Therefore, when victims feel that there is
[00:01:01] exhausted of justice, this person who
[00:01:03] is a victim develops
[00:01:06] constitutions and laws. These are self-immunity against this type of discourse. He says, "I have achieved peace.
[00:01:09] My neighbor and I coexist." Why should
[00:01:12] this type of harm, sectarian discourse, or hate speech, be a type of harm? So when
[00:01:16] society feels that it has justice and fairness
[00:01:20] for the victims, communities will not
[00:01:23] harm each other. From here,
[00:01:26] itself that caused you start this process, and in my opinion, there is a clear weakness in
[00:01:30] the path of civil peace
[00:01:32] these changes, when we benefit from in Syria. If this matter is activated media-wise
[00:01:35] and socially, even
[00:01:38] reflects on the if laws are put in place for it, I believe that
[00:01:41] there will be a better solution for this issue, God willing. Thank you very much.
[00:01:45] We hope that this sectarian discourse will end
[00:01:48] and we will get rid of it, and that the word
[00:01:52] and in reality, Rama, that this of truth and national discourse will prevail in Syria. Thank you very much, Ms. Maisaa Said,
[00:01:55] the social activist. You were with us as a dear guest here in the studio. Welcome.
[00:01:59] Thank you.
[00:02:10] Minister of Justice, Muzhar Lewis, confirmed at
[00:02:12] because the conclusion of his official visit to Istanbul the importance
[00:02:16] of Syrian participation in the summit's work, pointing out that it provided
[00:02:19] an opportunity to present Syria's
[00:02:21] taken by Syria in this vision on issues of justice and international legal cooperation.
[00:02:24] Minister
[00:02:26] I met a large number of Lewis also pointed out that this participation provided an opportunity to hold
[00:02:32] we didn't know these Syrian participation in the a series of fruitful meetings on the sidelines of the summit with representatives of a number of brotherly countries to discuss prospects
[00:02:35] for cooperation and joint coordination in a way that serves mutual
[00:02:38] interests and consolidates the rule
[00:02:40] of law.
[00:02:44] From the courts of justice to international forums,
[00:02:47] or even European presence in justice is present as a basis it tries, they didn't have
[00:02:50] a judicial for building the state and restoring trust in its institutions. In this context, Syria's participation
[00:02:54] in the International Justice Summit
[00:02:57] of the era, in consultation with in Istanbul came to discuss ways of cooperation.
[00:03:00] legal and strengthening its presence in forums concerned
[00:03:04] requires advocacy. So this In reality, with justice and human rights. Minister of Justice
[00:03:07] do not know how the Muzhar Lewis confirmed at the conclusion of his official visit to
[00:03:11] were discussed in this Istanbul the importance of Syrian participation in the summit's
[00:03:13] work, pointing out that it provided an opportunity to present Syria's
[00:03:17] vision on issues of justice and international legal cooperation
[00:03:21] and highlighting the challenges
[00:03:23] are taken from facing its national institutions. The participation
[00:03:27] offered criticism, and the news channel reported allowed for a series of meetings with representatives of sisterly
[00:03:30] and friendly countries to discuss prospects for cooperation and joint
[00:03:33] coordination in a way that serves mutual interests
[00:03:36] and consolidates the rule of law. On the sidelines of the summit,
[00:03:39] the Minister of Justice held meetings with a number of
[00:03:42] officials, most notably his meeting with Turkish President Recep
[00:03:46] Tayyip Erdogan, in the presence of Turkish Justice Minister Akin
[00:03:49] Güneş, in the framework of strengthening relations and exchanging expertise in
[00:03:53] judicial and legal
[00:03:56] to discuss this fields. At the heart of this participation, transitional justice emerges
[00:04:00] as more than a legal path, as it is a national
[00:04:03] entitlement to compensate victims and repair harm, restore
[00:04:07] trust, and lay the foundations of a stable state that derives
[00:04:12] demands that the defense should have received its strength from the rule of law
[00:04:12] Tunisia. So even in and respect for rights. We launched a comprehensive path for transitional
[00:04:16] justice. And we began with public
[00:04:20] trials for those involved in serious
[00:04:24] violations. We adhere to the guarantees of a fair
[00:04:27] trial according to the principles
[00:04:30] of international humanitarian law and the highest
[00:04:33] standards of transparency. And we also
[00:04:36] vigorously pursue
[00:04:39] its full solidarity with those involved in these crimes according to legal frameworks at the national
[00:04:43] and international levels as well. From Istanbul,
[00:04:46] Syria returns carrying the files of justice and cooperation in
[00:04:50] a path where the most important challenge remains to transform
[00:04:54] of the Kingdom are an integral principles and commitments into tangible steps that
[00:04:57] promote rights and restore trust.
[00:05:00] Law And to talk more about this file, we are joined
[00:05:03] from Doha by Dr. Fadel Abdul Ghani, Director of the Syrian Network
[00:05:07] for Human Rights. Welcome,
[00:05:09] through your follow-up in Dr. Fadel, to Syria Tonight. First, what is the importance
[00:05:12] of the Syrian Ministry of Justice's
[00:05:16] file
[00:05:19] the International Justice Summit? Syria remained
[00:05:22] isolated as a government and as a state
[00:05:25] from the international framework for many years
[00:05:28] and from participating in these conferences. Now, Syria
[00:05:31] is returning to participation, and I believe that these
[00:05:35] participations are very important
[00:05:38] because, in reality, we have a very great
[00:05:41] weakness. And this is the first thing, two basic points.
[00:05:44] The first point is an opportunity to explain the transitional
[00:05:48] justice path and the challenges it faces and to request
[00:05:51] international support for it, because this path is costly,
[00:05:55] including building a justice system
[00:05:58] in Syria that responds to the transitional
[00:06:02] justice situation. The other matter is that Syrian
[00:06:06] law needs to be developed and a great deal of work
[00:06:09] needs to be done. Limited amendments were made to the Penal Code.
[00:06:12] 49 This does not respond
[00:06:16] to the international legal system. International
[00:06:19] laws have systems. Some
[00:06:22] limited amendments were made, but there is no
[00:06:25] reform of this old law. The Assad
[00:06:28] regime that controlled Syria and the Ba'ath
[00:06:31] in 1963 were not concerned with developing
[00:06:35] laws and these discussions, because they require efforts
[00:06:38] and the state to lead them, and we have seen that the laws of all
[00:06:41] countries have changed. Especially regarding
[00:06:44] the development of judges, the development
[00:06:46] of investigators, how to align international
[00:06:49] laws with local
[00:06:52] laws and Syria's international obligations, how this is reflected in laws,
[00:06:56] all of this is absent. So these participations are very important
[00:06:59] for us to see other countries as well,
[00:07:04] issue is more in the bilateral
[00:07:07] discussions that take place around these conferences.
[00:07:11] They open doors for cooperation
[00:07:13] and also for learning and exchanging experiences, that is, where we are now and what
[00:07:17] challenges we face, and also requesting help
[00:07:20] and learning about other experiences. For example, Turkey
[00:07:24] has made great strides in the field of laws, even if it has not yet
[00:07:27] reached the level of advanced countries such as Britain,
[00:07:31] Germany, France, America, and others. But in reality,
[00:07:34] it has made good progress in this framework. I welcome
[00:07:37] you again, Dr. Fadel. In light of this
[00:07:43] International Justice Summit in Istanbul, in which more
[00:07:46] than 70 countries are participating, you
[00:07:50] mentioned correcting concepts, perhaps, or explaining
[00:07:53] the obstacles and challenges facing
[00:07:56] the Syrian judiciary. How do these international participations for Syria,
[00:08:00] specifically from
[00:08:03] and legal perspective, contribute to
[00:08:06] correcting, perhaps, the stereotypical or erroneous
[00:08:09] image that some parties try
[00:08:13] to associate with Syria?
[00:08:16] perhaps many
[00:08:19] path of justice and trials in Syria proceeds,
[00:08:23] and what Syria has achieved in this framework,
[00:08:26] and what investigations
[00:08:29] and trials have taken place but perhaps have not
[00:08:33] received the desired attention.
[00:08:36] And also, more importantly, we need
[00:08:39] support. Why are we talking, Mr. Abdul Qader? Because,
[00:08:42] as you know, due to the fact that
[00:08:46] most of the judicial system was corrupt and connected to the security
[00:08:50] apparatus, a large number of corrupt officers
[00:08:53] and even those connected to them
[00:08:56] were dismissed. So you are now building anew, and therefore you face
[00:09:00] a challenge, and at the same time you want
[00:09:04] to conduct trials and build cases,
[00:09:07] and there are complex issues, and you want to integrate
[00:09:10] international law into these cases, because these
[00:09:14] cases are complex, not ordinary criminal cases. So we must
[00:09:17] integrate international law here to align with the scale
[00:09:21] of the crime, which are crimes against humanity and war crimes,
[00:09:25] because the judgment will be issued under national local law, and that's how the judgment is issued.
[00:09:29] But how do you align and merge
[00:09:32] the two? This is a very big challenge that the courts
[00:09:36] have faced and that the judiciary faces. And international
[00:09:40] public opinion is not aware of the extent of the challenges
[00:09:44] that judges in Syria and the Public
[00:09:47] Prosecution face in building these files, and also
[00:09:50] how much they need support
[00:09:54] to build technical files, I mean. That's why
[00:09:57] sometimes there are some
[00:10:01] points or gaps in these files, and this is expected
[00:10:05] because the judiciary in Syria and the entire
[00:10:08] system are tired, let's say,
[00:10:12] in local terms. Participating in such conferences puts Syria
[00:10:16] again to
[00:10:18] explain and clarify
[00:10:21] its needs. So here, for example, perhaps
[00:10:25] we can benefit from Turkey sending expertise, or even some
[00:10:28] Arab countries, and even foreign countries like France are
[00:10:32] interested in this issue and others. And in reality, we need
[00:10:35] many years, and perhaps people will be shocked by this information,
[00:10:39] to restore and to rebuild from scratch, to
[00:10:42] stand on our feet a little, because there are, in reality,
[00:10:45] and without any exaggeration, huge gaps
[00:10:49] between what the law has reached and the developments that
[00:10:52] it has reached, and the theoretical legal situation in
[00:10:56] Syria at its various stages and with its various procedures.
[00:10:59] Yes. Well, at the same time, you mentioned, Doctor, that
[00:11:02] seeking international support and even
[00:11:05] cooperation in several files in Syria may be beneficial through
[00:11:09] participation in such
[00:11:11] files for Syria,
[00:11:14] especially from a legal perspective as the Ministry of Justice.
[00:11:17] What is the most important thing that countries can offer,
[00:11:20] also away from the issue of supporting what exists
[00:11:24] inside Syria? There is also the file of refugees present
[00:11:27] in various territories, whether in Turkey or even in Europe. Of course,
[00:11:31] the refugee file is also a complex file, because how do these laws
[00:11:35] apply to refugees and the issue of return? But
[00:11:38] for example, how can these countries help? Sometimes
[00:11:41] logistical support and expertise are sometimes
[00:11:44] or as important as financial
[00:11:47] aid, because we also have a very complex
[00:11:51] and intertwined legal system that needs reform.
[00:11:55] How do you reform these laws, and how do you abolish from them,
[00:11:59] and what do you start with, because they are intertwined? If you reform, if you
[00:12:02] don't start with reform before and issue new laws, then this new
[00:12:06] law conflicts with other laws. So this entire system
[00:12:10] works harmoniously with each other.
[00:12:13] Therefore, these countries can also help with this, because Syria is
[00:12:17] a country emerging from conflict and emerging from a long-standing
[00:12:20] dictatorship. Therefore, the situation of countries,
[00:12:23] that Syria faces,
[00:12:26] and also
[00:12:28] requesting assistance from them, this is essential and should always
[00:12:32] be a fundamental message in various participations,
[00:12:37] this Assad regime is known to many
[00:12:40] countries. I will give you an example from our experience
[00:12:43] with the Syrian Network for Human Rights. Until
[00:12:46] 2018, we were able to issue a report about the terrorism court.
[00:12:51] diplomats responsible for the Syrian
[00:12:54] file. They told me that
[00:12:57] details about the terrorism court.
[00:13:00] So imagine that the terrorism court, which we say is famous
[00:13:04] and well-known for how it operates and what
[00:13:08] this understanding. So what about what Syria
[00:13:11] is doing to confront this old system
[00:13:14] and at the same time move forward in building
[00:13:18] cases and building files, and also
[00:13:21] in graduating judges and how the judicial
[00:13:24] institute is working and the needs we have? This
[00:13:29] conference, Ms. Rama, its primary goal
[00:13:33] is advocacy. Advocating against, for example, the death penalty in
[00:13:37] Syria. There are now delegations coming to Syria to discuss the death
[00:13:40] penalty from Italy and from other countries. So we
[00:13:44] explain why the death penalty, for example, was issued in
[00:13:47] Syria, and what the public's
[00:13:50] reaction is, and how we can reconcile this issue,
[00:13:53] and that perhaps there will be reform later
[00:13:57] regarding this ruling, for example, because here this
[00:14:00] opportunity is mostly about meeting
[00:14:02] with, that is, side meetings with technical
[00:14:05] experts, are taking place because my assessment
[00:14:09] of the conference goes beyond the political dimension to the legal
[00:14:13] and technical dimension and of course both together,
[00:14:16] but it transcends the political dimension, and that's its importance,
[00:14:20] for us to meet the experts, because they are the ones who will later,
[00:14:23] and the academics, are the ones who will write and essentially speak
[00:14:26] and present about the path that is happening in
[00:14:29] Syria. Aha. Well, Dr. Fadel, in light of our discussion about
[00:14:33] international experiences and what
[00:14:36] countries are doing regarding justice, how can
[00:14:39] Syria benefit from these experiences, especially since, as you
[00:14:43] know, Mr. President, in more than one position,
[00:14:46] he said that Syria wants to start from where
[00:14:49] others left off or from where others ended.
[00:14:53] Correct. We don't want to simply copy
[00:14:56] international and foreign legislation,
[00:14:59] and at the same time, we want to build on where
[00:15:03] others have reached, but there is, in
[00:15:07] reality, a
[00:15:09] huge gap, light years, without exaggeration,
[00:15:13] because even to amend
[00:15:15] laws, it takes a long procedural
[00:15:18] path, because you legislate to the ruler,
[00:15:22] the ruler who is the primary people. So you have
[00:15:25] many procedures to legislate or even amend
[00:15:28] a law. So we don't have these paths,
[00:15:32] and these laws need to be amended by law
[00:15:36] or through the constitution. So this all needs to change so that
[00:15:39] we can start and reach what others have reached. We need
[00:15:43] to participate in such conferences. We need
[00:15:46] to also demand holding
[00:15:49] conferences inside Syria by these countries
[00:15:52] and exchanging experiences, especially with countries
[00:15:55] that have advanced, for example, neighboring countries. Jordan, for
[00:15:59] example, is somewhat advanced in its laws.
[00:16:02] There are countries that are not, for example, Lebanon's penal law
[00:16:06] before Syria was 40, for example. So we look
[00:16:09] at which countries are close
[00:16:11] to, for example, our culture and neighborhood.
[00:16:15] Turkey, for example, made progress in it because it created,
[00:16:19] to a certain extent, a kind of independence in the judiciary and in
[00:16:22] laws, and it also benefited from the German
[00:16:26] experience and others. But this issue, we must keep
[00:16:30] in mind that it is a gradual, long-term issue,
[00:16:33] and also requires a very long breath, especially since
[00:16:36] Syria emerged
[00:16:38] expertise. Some migrated, some were killed, some
[00:16:42] were displaced. So we are actually facing
[00:16:45] a great weakness in cadres for this
[00:16:49] leadership process, the process of reform and building upon it, and so on.
[00:16:53] We start from where others have reached, but to reach
[00:16:56] what others have reached, we need to tell people that there
[00:17:00] is, in reality, a great distance that we must
[00:17:03] work to reach. These conferences actually help.
[00:17:06] To see how others reached and what they did
[00:17:10] to get here, because it requires very great efforts,
[00:17:14] not like the distance imagined. That's why
[00:17:17] sometimes we say, Mr. Abdul Qader, that
[00:17:20] why wasn't this amended? For example,
[00:17:24] when we talked about it, deletion is easy. Delete the terrorism court, but
[00:17:27] what will come after that in terms of repercussions and
[00:17:31] intertwined matters that you will unravel? All of this needs
[00:17:34] to be transformed because when you pass a law,
[00:17:38] if it doesn't turn into state institutions to implement it, it's as
[00:17:42] if you didn't pass anything. So this is an interconnected
[00:17:44] process, and this is what we can benefit from. But the
[00:17:48] most important thing, in my opinion, is for us to talk
[00:17:51] about Syria's vision for transitional
[00:17:55] justice. That is, after years, where will we reach
[00:17:58] and what will we achieve? And also, what do we need
[00:18:01] to do to repair the damage and
[00:18:04] also to conduct fair and transparent
[00:18:08] trials, as the Minister mentioned. Aha. Well,
[00:18:11] you also mentioned earlier, Dr. Fadel, the necessity
[00:18:15] of Syria's presence in such events
[00:18:17] to benefit from the experiences of other countries, and you mentioned examples
[00:18:21] such as the Turkish
[00:18:25] Germany or Britain and elsewhere. But as
[00:18:28] for the Arab presence, it was within the bilateral meetings held by Minister
[00:18:31] of Justice Dr. Muzhar Lewis with
[00:18:34] his Algerian counterpart and their discussion of a joint
[00:18:38] judicial cooperation file between the two countries.
[00:18:41] What is the importance of this meeting and how can it positively
[00:18:44] impact the Syrian judiciary? Arab cooperation, in my opinion, is necessary.
[00:18:48] In reality, there are Arab countries that
[00:18:52] have some progress in the area of laws,
[00:18:56] even if, unfortunately, to be honest, most of them
[00:19:00] Western countries, translated, and so
[00:19:04] on, with some amendments made to them. This is because building
[00:19:07] laws is very difficult, and it is
[00:19:11] discussed in international conferences in The Hague
[00:19:14] and elsewhere. There are discussions just about how to amend this
[00:19:18] word in a specific agreement. So you find that Arab contributions
[00:19:21] are, unfortunately, very limited,
[00:19:24] especially in social and human sciences. Perhaps there are
[00:19:28] contributions in political
[00:19:31] literature and even in international relations. In law,
[00:19:35] they are very weak, in reality, unfortunately.
[00:19:38] But we in Syria are very
[00:19:41] far behind even other Arab countries, such as
[00:19:45] Egypt, Jordan, and so on, and even
[00:19:50] the Arabian Gulf, there is also great
[00:19:53] progress compared to Syria. But these Arab countries also have
[00:19:57] a very large gap compared to advanced countries,
[00:20:01] which are mainly Britain and, that is, it is considered
[00:20:04] the best, and also the United States of
[00:20:07] America, and France, and Germany, and also
[00:20:11] Italy, for example, and Holland. Therefore,
[00:20:14] we need a lot of work. But benefiting
[00:20:18] from and holding Arab workshops is essential,
[00:20:21] because it is also possible to transfer experiences from Arab countries to
[00:20:25] Syria to rise in this gradual way we talked about, because there is
[00:20:29] a very large gap between where we are
[00:20:33] and where others have reached. So this gap, perhaps
[00:20:36] bridging it with Arab assistance, I think we
[00:20:39] can help bridge a part of this gap, not
[00:20:43] all of it. Well, Dr. Fadel,
[00:20:46] the Syrian Network for Human Rights and the reports you issue
[00:20:50] and documentation and so on, how does
[00:20:53] the development and modernization of Syrian
[00:20:56] local laws reflect on the protection
[00:20:59] of the basic rights of Syrian
[00:21:02] citizens? We have seen that when
[00:21:05] laws are issued, this sends a message
[00:21:09] even to state institutions themselves,
[00:21:12] deterring them from security apparatus institutions, that
[00:21:16] there are prosecutions, there are committees, there are internal accountability mechanisms. We don't
[00:21:20] want to act independently in this matter. This deters this issue,
[00:21:24] in reality. In reality, if we compare
[00:21:28] now with the past months and even this year with last year,
[00:21:31] we are noticing an improvement in the general human
[00:21:35] rights situation in Syria. This is the most important thing, that it should be reflected
[00:21:38] in writings about Syria, meaning that this
[00:21:41] transitional justice path, that is, the goal of trials is not trials
[00:21:45] in themselves. The primary goal of transitional justice is to change
[00:21:48] legislation. It is how you prevent
[00:21:52] recurrence through changing
[00:21:56] the ultimate goals, the major goals, to reach
[00:21:59] them. Some people who don't have much experience in these matters
[00:22:03] say that we should prosecute or repair damages.
[00:22:07] These are some of the tools of transitional justice, but its
[00:22:10] overall goals are to change the system
[00:22:16] the violations. Therefore, this question is important, Abdul Qader, because
[00:22:22] international experiences and expertise, we reflect them in our laws, and this
[00:22:28] people, and this is important because this is immediately
[00:22:31] noticed, because the entire path is integrated.
[00:22:35] Trials, changing legislation to strengthen these
[00:22:38] trials, because if you conduct trials and don't make reforms,
[00:22:42] we haven't gained anything, and these paths run in parallel, and this is what we said
[00:22:46] in the report we issued about the transitional
[00:22:49] justice path, that these paths run in parallel with each other.
[00:22:53] One progresses a little, but the other continues. We see who
[00:22:56] needs to go faster and so on, and there is harmony between them. So we
[00:23:00] are noticing this, and also international institutions, and I meet
[00:23:04] often, as you know, with the United Nations and with international
[00:23:07] institutions, also in the meetings we are holding
[00:23:10] in Damascus mainly, and in a few
[00:23:14] days we will be in Damascus. We have several international
[00:23:16] meetings. I think there is a noticeable change, I can tell you
[00:23:20] through the media, that there is a noticeable change
[00:23:24] in what the Syrian government is doing, and especially
[00:23:27] positive changes and building upon them and progressing
[00:23:31] further towards reaching a higher degree than what
[00:23:35] we have reached. Aha. Well, Dr. Fadel, through your meetings that
[00:23:38] you mentioned earlier, how do you evaluate the regional
[00:23:42] and international perspective on what has changed in the Syrian
[00:23:46] judiciary and the legal life in general, whether
[00:23:49] through what the Minister of Justice mentioned regarding
[00:23:52] the transitional justice file, a change in the approach
[00:23:56] of the judiciary and judges in Syria, and other files that
[00:24:01] file? In reality,
[00:24:05] we have, that is,
[00:24:08] some positive aspects are being observed, but there is also criticism, that is,
[00:24:11] there is criticism of the transitional justice path for some things, even we
[00:24:17] this criticism, that is, objective criticism.
[00:24:23] And the same thing, also, for example, we discussed
[00:24:27] with the head of the international mechanism of the United
[00:24:29] Nations a few weeks ago, we discussed the issue
[00:24:33] of the death penalty. A UN mission will come
[00:24:36] from, and also experts from Italy, after a few
[00:24:40] days, also to meet with the Ministry of Justice
[00:24:44] and so on
[00:24:46] issue as well and to see the dimensions.
[00:24:50] So there is an observation of the positive aspects
[00:24:53] of what Syria is doing, for example. Everyone praised, for example, that
[00:24:56] the trials are public, and also regarding the right to defense, they made additional
[00:25:02] the evidence, should have received the evidence, not only the incriminating evidence, but also
[00:25:06] the exculpatory evidence. And all, all the information,
[00:25:09] all the data, for example, the judgments were not published. We asked for the publication of judgments.
[00:25:13] So the same thing we are asking for, because these are legal
[00:25:16] requirements. We asked the court for them. We are in contact
[00:25:20] with the judiciary as a national institution. We have higher accessibility,
[00:25:24] for example, than UN institutions. So,
[00:25:27] there are positive aspects that are being built
[00:25:30] upon, and it is expected that we will have some criticism
[00:25:34] and some gaps
[00:25:38] because this is the first time we are conducting
[00:25:41] these trials, and these are very complex and difficult
[00:25:45] trials. So it is natural that we will face challenges and
[00:25:48] need resources, very large resources,
[00:25:52] and mainly financial, because you need experts
[00:25:55] and to employ and pay very high salaries,
[00:25:59] because not all experts volunteer.
[00:26:02] So if this is not available, then we will have gaps.
[00:26:06] We have to conduct trials, we cannot not conduct trials, and this has happened
[00:26:10] in other countries. In reality, the same thing,
[00:26:13] that the state wants to proceed and build trials, but there are no resources,
[00:26:16] so there will inevitably be some gaps. So these are being criticized
[00:26:19] and observed, but they are mentioned in their context, not like
[00:26:23] some who criticize them without mentioning
[00:26:26] their context. Here, I have a
[00:26:28] criticism of this criticism, I consider it
[00:26:32] not objective criticism. You must mention that because
[00:26:35] of these challenges that it is facing, it is
[00:26:39] leading to this, and this is actually being observed by
[00:26:42] the international community and by the United Nations
[00:26:45] and experts. Yes, Dr. Fadel Abdul Ghani, Director of the Syrian
[00:26:51] Doha. Thank you very much.
[00:26:52] Members of the US Senate,
[00:27:03] Jeanne Shaheen and Joni Ernst, and Representative Joe
[00:27:07] Wilson, in a joint statement, praised the efforts of the Ministry
[00:27:11] of Social Affairs and Labor to modernize labor law and expressed
[00:27:14] their anticipation of supporting development projects in Syria through
[00:27:17] the Development Finance Corporation.
[00:27:21] The American International In turn, the Minister
[00:27:24] of Social Affairs and Labor, Hind Qabbawat, confirmed work on amending
[00:27:28] the Labor Law issued in 2010 to be
[00:27:30] commensurate with the requirements of the era,
[00:27:34] in consultation with unions, workers and employers.
[00:27:37] العمل.
[00:27:42] In a step aimed at strengthening workers' rights and improving their
[00:27:45] financial situation after decades of injustice and corruption during the former regime.
[00:27:49] American officials supported Syria's steps
[00:27:52] to modernize labor laws and expressed their eagerness to support
[00:27:56] development projects in Syria through the
[00:27:59] US International Development Finance Corporation. US
[00:28:03] Senators Jeanne Shaheen and Johnny Ernst, and Representative Joe
[00:28:06] Wilson praised in a joint statement the efforts of the
[00:28:10] Ministry of Social Affairs and Labor to modernize the labor law, which
[00:28:13] dates back to the era of the former regime, in consultation with concerned
[00:28:17] parties and Syrian experts, stressing the
[00:28:20] importance of the steps
[00:28:23] field. In this context, American officials expressed
[00:28:27] their anticipation of taking rapid measures
[00:28:30] once the draft law is referred to the People's Assembly, noting
[00:28:34] that American law requires, for the US International
[00:28:37] Development Finance Corporation to support projects in any
[00:28:40] country, the taking of steps to adopt and implement laws
[00:28:44] that guarantee internationally recognized workers' rights.
[00:28:47] In turn, the Minister of Social Affairs and Labor, Hind
[00:28:51] Qabbawat, affirmed work on amending the Labor Law issued in
[00:28:55] 2010 to be commensurate with the requirements
[00:28:59] unions, workers and employers. The new labor law project comes at a time
[00:29:03] when Syria is facing accumulated economic
[00:29:06] and reconstruction challenges
[00:29:09] after years of war left by the former regime,
[00:29:12] amidst efforts to rebuild institutions
[00:29:16] and improve the legal environment necessary for economic
[00:29:19] activity and building a modern
[00:29:22] Syria.
[00:29:31] The Minister of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates, Asaad Hassan Al-Shaibani,
[00:29:35] made a phone call with the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom
[00:29:38] of Saudi Arabia, Prince Faisal bin Farhan,
[00:29:41] during which he affirmed Syria's full solidarity with the Kingdom in
[00:29:45] facing the escalating targeting by the Houthi militia
[00:29:47] of civilian facilities. Minister
[00:29:51] Al-Shaibani also affirmed that the security of the Kingdom is part of the security of Syria
[00:29:54] and the region, offering condolences and sympathy
[00:29:57] for the victims of the targeting of King Khalid International Airport in Riyadh. This was after
[00:30:01] the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates condemned the Houthi militia's targeting
[00:30:04] of King Khalid Airport, stressing the need for
[00:30:08] the international community to bear its responsibility in taking
[00:30:11] serious steps to stop the targeting of civilian facilities
[00:30:14] and threatening the security of the region and the safety
[00:30:16] of its peoples.
[00:30:20] An attack carried out by the Yemeni Houthi militia targeted King
[00:30:24] Khalid International Airport in the capital, Riyadh, leaving dozens
[00:30:28] of casualties and hundreds injured. The General Authority
[00:30:30] for Civil Aviation in Saudi Arabia announced the killing of 12 people,
[00:30:34] including a Syrian, and the injury of more than
[00:30:37] 300 others. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Expatriates affirmed
[00:30:42] the Kingdom, offering condolences and sympathy to
[00:30:45] the leadership and people of the Kingdom and to the family
[00:30:48] of the deceased, a citizen of the Syrian Arab Republic,
[00:30:51] stressing that the security and stability
[00:30:56] part of the security of Syria, confirming the community's responsibility.