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[00:00:05] any country in the world. I mean, show me a country in
[00:00:14] You know very well that in
[00:00:15] bilateral relations
[00:00:19] levels. Therefore, this
[00:00:22] for many reasons. We will open this
[00:00:23] file in this
[00:00:32] Libya now,
[00:00:35] and the dimensions of this communication. Let's start with
[00:00:38] Between a Syrian diplomatic move that expands channels of
[00:00:41] communication and a security path that follows the files of
[00:00:44] supports the unity of the perpetrators of violations during the era of the former regime.
[00:00:47] We discuss, in today's episode of "By Syria Time", the features of
[00:00:50] the Syrian approach
[00:00:53] towards Libya and the implications of
[00:00:56] the recent security developments implemented by the Ministry of Interior,
[00:01:00] and the questions raised by these two issues
[00:01:04] about building state relations and consolidating the rule of
[00:01:07] law and the right of Syrians. In the first
[00:01:09] axis, we discuss the political
[00:01:13] and diplomatic movements in which relations are not measured
[00:01:16] by what is announced alone, but by the channels
[00:01:20] they open and the interests they establish
[00:01:23] and the approaches they also carry that respect the sovereignty of
[00:01:27] states and the unity of their territories. From
[00:01:31] The Syrian government's and the Syrian something will happen. this standpoint, Syrian diplomacy moves towards Libya in
[00:01:33] Therefore, Syrian diplomacy a path based on dealing with the Libyan state as
[00:01:36] a single entity and expanding communication with its various
[00:01:40] regions,
[00:01:41] oppression, the same tyranny,
[00:01:43] is undertaking is within this which enhances bilateral relations and places the interests of Syrians at
[00:01:46] the forefront of priorities, which is reinforced by the state
[00:01:50] led the Syrian side to communicate with and this visit
[00:01:52] relations? The building of the of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Asaad Al-Sheibani, to
[00:01:54] Benghazi. As for the second of these axes for
[00:01:58] this episode, we dedicate it to the announcement of the internal security forces arresting
[00:02:02] the former Brigadier General of the former regime, Marid Muhammad,
[00:02:05] known as the "Guardian of the Capital," who contributed
[00:02:09] any problems with to committing a number of violations in diplomatic activity that does
[00:02:11] the same pain, and the same feeling with Damascus and its surroundings and even in other
[00:02:13] Therefore, this type of cities, to truly
[00:02:15] visit is not show great efforts by the Ministry of Interior in order
[00:02:18] to protect any gains for Syrians after
[00:02:21] liberation and to prosecute those who committed violations
[00:02:25] against them and hold them accountable for
[00:02:28] their actions. A new episode
[00:02:33] even with an initiative,
[00:02:41] Razzaq. This
[00:02:42] of cooperation and sympathy with
[00:02:44] by the Americans, at the Syrian side. Also, we are with
[00:02:46] the same time, there are many
[00:02:55] role in Libya limited and Expatriates, Asaad Hassan Al-Sheibani, met with the Deputy Commander of the Army, First Lieutenant General
[00:02:59] Saddam Khalifa Haftar, in the Libyan city of Benghazi,
[00:03:04] al-Sharaa. But there is no doubt that this accompanied by the head of the General Intelligence Service, Major General Abdel Qader
[00:03:06] Tahhan. During this meeting, the two sides discussed
[00:03:09] ways to enhance cooperation in issues of common
[00:03:12] interest, especially the opening of the Consulate General
[00:03:17] necessitates of the Syrian Arab Republic in
[00:03:18] Tripoli. Therefore, dealing with the city of Benghazi. More in this
[00:03:23] Good. So, in light of this report. From its west to its east,
[00:03:26] Libya stands out in the hierarchy of Syrian relations with Arab countries.
[00:03:31] Perhaps it does not conform to According to the approach of joint cooperation and the search for the best relations
[00:03:36] is in itself for the sake of the residents and a vision of peace and constructive communication. After more than a month
[00:03:39] Syria. This matter of his visit to the Libyan capital, Tripoli, the Minister of
[00:03:44] results in light of this Foreign Affairs and Expatriates, Asaad Al-Sheibani, arrives in Benghazi to meet with officials there
[00:03:48] and discuss
[00:03:50] Of course, bilateral relations between Syria and Libya as two
[00:03:54] sister countries united by common history
[00:03:57] and current developments and prospects for
[00:04:00] the future. Files on the table
[00:04:04] of discussions. The diplomatic arrangement is the key to them
[00:04:08] parties at and focuses on intensifying diplomatic
[00:04:10] the Arab level, at missions and liaison centers in Tripoli
[00:04:16] There is a limited number of However, what is happening behind and Benghazi to facilitate popular communication
[00:04:17] carried this message, and serve tens of thousands of Syrians present in
[00:04:20] Libya for over a decade and a
[00:04:23] half. The economic aspect is also present
[00:04:26] in the Syrian-Libyan discussions, especially
[00:04:30] regarding investment
[00:04:33] there is an eagerness from and trade movement
[00:04:34] they are forced, for example, in and strengthening transport
[00:04:36] many cases, or between the two countries, which
[00:04:38] and polarization. In order not to enjoy an important geopolitical location
[00:04:42] overlooking the Mediterranean Sea. Syria also views
[00:04:46] Syrian-Libyan cooperation on Libya as an important gateway to North Africa,
[00:04:48] where Syrian diplomacy
[00:04:52] has sought for a year and a half to enhance Syria's presence
[00:04:57] that exists and that does through building strong relations with Algeria
[00:05:03] be able to to the Syrian side. And here, and Morocco. In this first axis of "By Syria Time",
[00:05:05] I welcome my distinguished guests, Mr. Muhammad Jalal
[00:05:23] So, a political movement that expands channels of
[00:05:26] communication for Syria today. The Syrian
[00:05:29] Foreign Minister is in Libya
[00:05:36] axis. I will start with you, Mr. Muhammad
[00:05:39] Jalal. So, we stand
[00:05:43] in the context of political connotations and the unity of Libya
[00:05:48] the political connotations of this
[00:05:59] everyone is now looking for
[00:06:03] what comes after the American-Israeli
[00:06:05] war on Iran. Um,
[00:06:09] and what comes after the war always
[00:06:12] seeks to expand all
[00:06:16] open channels with especially Arab countries, regional
[00:06:20] countries in the Middle East, and also
[00:06:23] surrounding countries and countries that are energy
[00:06:26] patrons and energy supply chains
[00:06:30] and those with sensitive geopolitical and geostrategic
[00:06:33] locations like Libya. Therefore, the significance of the
[00:06:37] visit is that there are channels that Syrian diplomacy
[00:06:40] seeks to open and expand
[00:06:43] with the Libyan side. Yes, the main
[00:06:46] government recognized by the United Nations is the government of
[00:06:49] Tripoli. However, expanding the scope, even
[00:06:53] diplomatically, is not just a consular matter,
[00:06:56] and there was also the head of the intelligence service, Abdel Qader
[00:06:59] Tahhan, also present. So, this carries implications that there is
[00:07:03] a service operation in terms of the consulate and also
[00:07:06] an exchange of information and some
[00:07:09] intelligence operations that aim
[00:07:12] at the security of the two countries. Therefore, this is a type of sound
[00:07:18] not lead to any violation or
[00:07:21] the other party, especially the government of Tripoli.
[00:07:27] a traditional, ordinary visit, but rather
[00:07:31] a visit to open a channel, a channel that is defined within
[00:07:34] two main determinants: serving the Syrian community
[00:07:38] in Benghazi and also
[00:07:40] the sensitive security file in Libya
[00:07:44] and also in Syria.
[00:07:46] Syrian diplomacy, Abdul Razzaq, is drawing
[00:07:50] determinants
[00:07:52] for a key phrase: "What if?" meaning
[00:07:56] what if the American war ends now?
[00:07:59] Yes, what if
[00:08:03] the American elections. What if Iran
[00:08:06] was bombed and the Iranian regime was ended? What
[00:08:09] challenges will the region face in terms of opportunities
[00:08:13] and challenges, and how do we draw these opportunities
[00:08:17] and challenges? How do we draw scenarios for dealing with them?
[00:08:20] Excellent. So, this visit is not ordinary, and it is about opening channels of
[00:08:24] communication, Professor Muhammad, my guest from Tripoli. I turn to you.
[00:08:28] So, after the reopening of the Syrian embassy, as stated in the report,
[00:08:31] in Tripoli, this visit of the Minister of
[00:08:35] Foreign Affairs, Asaad Al-Sheibani, accompanied by the head of the General
[00:08:38] Intelligence Service, to Libya,
[00:08:41] does this visit reflect a Syrian trend towards restoring
[00:08:45] relations with Libya with all its components and rebuilding the comprehensive
[00:08:49] diplomatic presence
[00:09:02] it is very clear that there is an effective diplomatic approach
[00:09:06] adopted by the Syrian Foreign Ministry. This matter
[00:09:09] can perhaps be observed from the intensive contacts
[00:09:13] made by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Asaad Al-Sheibani,
[00:09:16] with various countries and various
[00:09:23] the regional level, and at the international level. Therefore, there is
[00:09:26] an effective and very active diplomatic movement that can
[00:09:29] be observed throughout the past period. Perhaps this visit
[00:09:33] to Benghazi, after the first visit
[00:09:36] made by Al-Sheibani on August 30th last year to
[00:09:40] Tripoli, can be interpreted in the context that
[00:09:45] the Syrian Foreign Ministry and the Syrian administration to
[00:09:49] build very effective communication channels with various
[00:09:52] parties. As you know, there is a peculiarity in Libya, given that,
[00:09:56] unfortunately, there is a division of power and
[00:09:59] a division of institutions, and there is talk of
[00:10:02] two parties, which are the de facto parties in Tripoli and Benghazi.
[00:10:06] Therefore, the Syrian administration
[00:10:09] and the Syrian authorities were keen to have communication
[00:10:13] with both parties to ensure, first and foremost,
[00:10:16] the interests of the Syrian community, which can be described as a large
[00:10:20] community in all of Libya, whether in Tripoli or in
[00:10:24] Benghazi or even in other cities. Yes, and it can
[00:10:28] also open a line
[00:10:31] regarding the restoration of
[00:10:34] trade exchange, which stopped throughout the past
[00:10:36] period.
[00:10:39] the past, there was a large volume of trade exchange between Libya
[00:10:42] and Syria, which can be described as significant.
[00:10:46] Therefore, this activity cannot be restored
[00:10:49] or resumed once again at
[00:10:52] the level of trade exchange and at the level of flights
[00:10:56] between Libyan airports and Syrian airports, except perhaps
[00:10:59] through communication with both parties in
[00:11:02] Benghazi and Tripoli. This is what actually happened in
[00:11:05] the visit of Minister Asaad Al-Sheibani today to
[00:11:09] Benghazi. However, there is no doubt that for
[00:11:11] Libyans, we are here,
[00:11:15] to be more precise, divided at the level of
[00:11:18] authority. But there is no doubt that there
[00:11:21] is a very great popular desire and a great
[00:11:25] popular will that we sense in the street talk for
[00:11:29] Libyan-Syrian relations to regain their momentum
[00:11:32] despite this state of internal division that Libya is
[00:11:36] experiencing, because perhaps
[00:11:39] regaining this momentum and Syria's return once again to
[00:11:43] its role, which is undoubtedly awaited,
[00:11:47] is tantamount to
[00:11:49] providing services and providing
[00:11:52] great benefits that are hoped
[00:11:55] for and result from this desired relationship
[00:11:59] between the two sisterly peoples in Syria and Libya. Yes, Mr. Mohammed Jalal,
[00:12:03] as our guest from Tripoli, Professor,
[00:12:06] Mr. Muhammad, said, today we are facing
[00:12:09] the expansion of diplomatic relations with Libya,
[00:12:13] or building a new path in these
[00:12:17] path is with the central government
[00:12:20] and the government recognized by the United Nations
[00:12:24] and by the international community. But expanding diplomatic activity
[00:12:27] is a kind of developing the diplomatic process
[00:12:30] by opening channels and for the benefit of citizens. One, two,
[00:12:34] when we observe Syrian diplomacy,
[00:12:37] we no longer talk about the obvious. Just as you observe Ronaldo in football,
[00:12:41] it is obvious that he possesses strength, speed, and technique,
[00:12:45] and this is what Syrian diplomacy
[00:12:48] has accustomed us to. We need
[00:12:51] to observe or focus on the results achieved by
[00:12:56] these diplomatic rounds. Therefore, can Syria play
[00:12:59] a role in a regional solution or
[00:13:02] a solution within Libya or not? Can Syria? Does
[00:13:06] Syria aim to do so or not? I mean, we think in this
[00:13:10] way: Will Syria have
[00:13:13] a role in resolving the conflict within Libya
[00:13:17] or not? Is the Syrian
[00:13:20] only to services and security and economic cooperation or not?
[00:13:24] These answers are held by the files that
[00:13:28] were discussed between Minister of
[00:13:32] Foreign Affairs Asaad Sheibani and Haftar.
[00:13:35] Second, is there a regional movement
[00:13:38] to resolve the issue in Libya or not? Yes.
[00:13:41] Third, and this is also important, any
[00:13:45] self-respecting country considers the presence of
[00:13:48] people and citizens under its care in another
[00:13:52] country. Therefore, the visit of His Excellency the Minister
[00:13:55] of Foreign Affairs to Benghazi
[00:14:01] of Syrians who are present, as we mentioned,
[00:14:04] Syrians are among the priorities of the visit, and these
[00:14:07] the Syrian Foreign Ministry are 100%. Therefore, we
[00:14:11] are moving in a clear path. What is announced now is
[00:14:14] a kind of providing consular services,
[00:14:17] expanding channels of communication with everyone,
[00:14:20] exchanging security information, and also prosecuting Syrian
[00:14:25] criminals who have fled to Libya
[00:14:28] or are hiding there, or possibly are in safe places in
[00:14:31] Benghazi. These three paths were
[00:14:35] clear and were expressed.
[00:14:40] the scenes is guesswork. We study
[00:14:43] and analyze what would happen if
[00:14:46] a solution were found in Libya. Would there be a Syrian
[00:14:50] role in the solution, and what is the distance between Syria
[00:14:54] and Libya? In the energy sector,
[00:14:57] economy, energy supply
[00:15:00] chain, military cooperation, security
[00:15:04] cooperation also on all levels, and the extent
[00:15:07] of the impact of
[00:15:11] the African continent. For example, Egypt,
[00:15:13] for Libya, is very important.
[00:15:17] Any Syrian-Libyan, Syrian-Algerian, Syrian-Tunisian
[00:15:21] rapprochement may embarrass the Egyptian side to draw closer
[00:15:26] Syrian diplomacy is trying
[00:15:29] to draw
[00:15:32] boundaries and draw balances
[00:15:34] and open channels
[00:15:37] for communication with Arab countries and African
[00:15:41] countries. Yes, yes. Mr. Mahfouz, today,
[00:15:44] how can Syria truly utilize
[00:15:47] its openness to various Libyan parties to strengthen these
[00:15:53] while affirming the unity of Libya and the stability of Libya and respecting
[00:15:56] the choices of the Libyan people?
[00:15:59] Professor Abdul Razzaq, there is an important detail that the viewer should
[00:16:03] know, and you know it,
[00:16:06] of course.
[00:16:09] your esteemed guest in the studio pointed out
[00:16:13] a point: what if there was a regional trend
[00:16:16] to push for a solution to the crisis in Libya? There is no
[00:16:20] doubt that there are multiple tracks
[00:16:23] being discussed today, and these tracks are accelerating.
[00:16:27] Perhaps the most prominent of them is the initiative
[00:16:29] led by President Trump's envoy, Masood
[00:16:33] Bulos, President Trump's envoy to North
[00:16:36] Africa and the Middle East. Masood Bulos is leading
[00:16:40] an initiative whose substance and broad
[00:16:43] outlines, and perhaps its two main pillars, are power
[00:16:47] sharing between the two active parties, specifically Saddam Haftar,
[00:16:50] whom Minister Al-Sheibani met
[00:16:53] today, and Abdul Hamid Dbeibeh in the West. This
[00:16:56] approach, through which Bulos
[00:16:59] operates, is described as a de
[00:17:03] facto and effective approach. And perhaps the talk about
[00:17:09] and perhaps the criticisms of this approach are
[00:17:13] very significant and numerous. No need to mention them, perhaps
[00:17:17] because the opportunity may not
[00:17:19] be wide enough, but there is no
[00:17:22] doubt that this idea perhaps
[00:17:27] everyone, because this approach, if it succeeded
[00:17:31] and led Saddam Haftar to the presidency of the next
[00:17:35] Presidential Council and Abdul Hamid Dbeibeh continues as Prime Minister, this
[00:17:38] means the unification of power, and therefore Syria
[00:17:41] must deal with various
[00:17:44] parties with some caution, because as you know,
[00:17:47] dealing in Libya must be done with extreme caution.
[00:17:51] There is an internationally recognized legitimate government. Well,
[00:17:54] how, in this context, can the balance
[00:17:57] of Syrian relations be maintained in this
[00:18:00] situation, whether with Tripoli or with
[00:18:05] is what I wanted to say. Go ahead.
[00:18:08] We say the important issue is that caution must
[00:18:12] be exercised because, despite the fact that both parties are now
[00:18:15] negotiating and there is talk of
[00:18:18] approaches led
[00:18:23] actions that contradict this agreement
[00:18:27] and talk of consensus, meaning
[00:18:31] opposing actions taken by each party towards
[00:18:34] the other. This particular issue requires
[00:18:37] extreme caution in dealing with the Libyan
[00:18:41] scene. The internationally recognized government is Dbeibeh's government.
[00:18:44] It is the legitimate government. It
[00:18:47] has an ambassador in Damascus. Also, there is
[00:18:50] a Syrian ambassador for the authorities in
[00:18:56] the other party is considered dealing with parallel
[00:19:00] entities. This is in the ideal situation. However, there is no doubt that there is an exceptional
[00:19:03] situation in Libya, given that we are dealing with a de facto situation.
[00:19:09] the usual alphabets with which
[00:19:12] one deals within the framework of state-to-state relations. This
[00:19:16] is one thing. The second thing is protecting
[00:19:19] and preserving the interests of Syrians in
[00:19:23] Libya, especially the large Syrian community.
[00:19:25] It requires dealing with everyone
[00:19:29] to preserve these interests.
[00:19:32] Undoubtedly, and perhaps I believe that there
[00:19:36] was coordination with the authorities in Tripoli before this visit, as
[00:19:39] it should not be understood in another context that we support one party over
[00:19:43] another, or that we are dealing with parallel authorities. This is a matter I believe
[00:19:47] existed without a doubt, and perhaps even the visit made by
[00:19:51] Al-Sheibani last August
[00:19:55] and perhaps there was knowledge among the authorities in Tripoli that
[00:19:58] the minister would visit Benghazi. Yes,
[00:20:02] so Mr. Mahfouz said that
[00:20:05] Syrian relations must be handled with caution.
[00:20:12] However, there is internal division
[00:20:15] involve Syria in these polarizations and this Libyan
[00:20:18] division, how can Damascus today protect
[00:20:22] its national interests and expand its relations
[00:20:24] within the Libyan state?
[00:20:28] And does adopting a balanced openness
[00:20:31] policy in these relations and this imposed reality within
[00:20:34] Libya guarantee achieving that?
[00:20:38] Well, Syrian diplomacy has already achieved
[00:20:42] a clear balance with the steps it has taken.
[00:20:46] It opened an embassy and appointed a chargé d'affaires in Tripoli and a consulate in...
[00:20:57] So, a balance, of course, because when you open diplomatic representation,
[00:21:00] an embassy with a certain country, you recognize it, and it recognizes
[00:21:04] your policy and diplomacy, and there is mutual
[00:21:08] recognition. But with the other side, when a consulate is established,
[00:21:11] like the Syrian consulate during Bashar al-Assad's regime in
[00:21:15] Istanbul, there were no political relations, and so on,
[00:21:19] but there was consular interaction to facilitate
[00:21:22] the affairs of citizens present in Benghazi.
[00:21:26] The role that Syria could play in
[00:21:29] a solution or negotiations or whatever was not mentioned in any statement. I
[00:21:33] do not think, in my personal opinion, of course,
[00:21:37] there is no information about this matter. It is a hypothesis,
[00:21:41] a hypothesis and an interpretation that the guest in Tripoli
[00:21:44] built upon. Therefore, why did I start
[00:21:48] by saying that after the American-Israeli
[00:21:52] Iranian war, things will be completely different?
[00:21:55] I mean, when an earthquake occurs in October
[00:21:59] in Gaza, its repercussions were the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad's regime. The closest
[00:22:03] fragile regime close to that
[00:22:06] region was the Syrian regime. It fell. After the fall of
[00:22:09] the regime, the closest point of fragility
[00:22:13] and lack of regional or international consensus was Iran.
[00:22:16] Therefore, I believe that
[00:22:20] in Yemen or in Libya.
[00:22:23] must be prepared for all
[00:22:26] scenarios. And this diplomatic movement that
[00:22:30] the Minister of Foreign Affairs framework.
[00:22:33] And this
[00:22:37] is the path that Syrian foreign
[00:22:40] policy is following, multi-party with all
[00:22:43] international actors
[00:22:46] and all regional actors,
[00:22:50] to ensure stability
[00:22:52] and safety for Syria. This is the main goal of any
[00:22:56] other diplomatic activity and to achieve the interests of citizens
[00:22:59] abroad and also within the country. Yes.
[00:23:03] Well, Mr. Mahfouz, today, how can
[00:23:06] these Syrian-Libyan relations
[00:23:09] turn into a sustainable partnership
[00:23:13] that serves the interests of the two peoples, of course, through several
[00:23:16] paths: trade, investment, reconstruction, and exchange of
[00:23:20] expertise, instead of remaining confined to political
[00:23:22] meetings and other considerations? Let me
[00:23:26] be realistic with you, Professor Abdul
[00:23:31] matter, in order for us to talk about it more
[00:23:34] effectively and for us to talk about practical steps, not
[00:23:37] just meetings and visits by both sides
[00:23:40] to Damascus, Tripoli, and Benghazi,
[00:23:43] because there were also visits by high-ranking
[00:23:46] Libyan officials to Damascus.
[00:23:50] They even met President Ahmed
[00:23:54] will not happen and will not be feasible
[00:23:57] in light of the division of power in Libya. This is a definitive
[00:24:00] statement, to be more precise. Therefore, this equation
[00:24:03] is understood by the Syrian brothers at
[00:24:06] the level of authority very clearly, that
[00:24:10] Libya is a very important country
[00:24:13] from several aspects, the economic aspect,
[00:24:16] and we fully realize
[00:24:20] that today there is an open approach
[00:24:23] regarding attracting investments
[00:24:26] and projects in
[00:24:29] views Libya, without a doubt, despite the crisis it is going through, as
[00:24:33] a country that can be
[00:24:36] beneficial and a country that can have
[00:24:39] very important partnerships with, whether in
[00:24:43] energy or trade and investments
[00:24:47] managed by public investment
[00:24:50] agencies in Libya in several countries. But there is no doubt that this matter
[00:24:54] today is truly out of reach, and this
[00:24:57] will not happen unless power is unified in Libya. Therefore, the Syrian
[00:25:01] side fully supports this matter.
[00:25:05] But there is no doubt that slogans are one thing and reality
[00:25:08] is another. The issue of supporting
[00:25:11] power-sharing approaches between active parties in the East and in the West,
[00:25:15] Haftar and Dbeibeh specifically, and they are the two
[00:25:19] who led to this crisis that we are living
[00:25:22] today. They are responsible for this economic,
[00:25:25] political, and societal crisis that Libya is going
[00:25:29] through, even though Libya is an oil-exporting country,
[00:25:33] and it is classified as a wealthy country, but
[00:25:35] it is known that its people and citizens are truly
[00:25:39] suffering a crisis, and this
[00:25:42] is mainly due to power-sharing. This fragility
[00:25:47] not allow the international community, nor even the brothers
[00:25:50] themselves, to truly
[00:25:53] deal with the concept of a single
[00:25:56] state. Therefore, I mentioned in my previous speech the issue of caution.
[00:26:00] Dealing in Libya must be cautious. You are dealing with something unfamiliar,
[00:26:04] uncommon, not found in
[00:26:07] the world where the situation
[00:26:11] is as it is now in Libya: two governments and two institutions,
[00:26:15] divided at the legislative level, at the executive level,
[00:26:18] and at all
[00:26:21] matter today requires dealing with a state of balance and caution
[00:26:25] and that the common interest
[00:26:28] between the two countries be applied. This is the important point. But
[00:26:32] even, to be brief, the issue of
[00:26:36] a more active role than it currently
[00:26:39] is will unfortunately not happen until there is one
[00:26:43] authority in Libya. Yes, so Syria
[00:26:47] country, supports this path in Libya,
[00:26:50] of course. So, what is the importance of Libya's unity and stability,
[00:26:53] the unity of Libyan territories, the unity of governments at the level of executive decisions
[00:26:57] and others, for Syrian interests and also building future
[00:27:01] partnerships in all frameworks? Abdul Razzaq, we,
[00:27:04] as a government, people, and revolutionaries, have emerged from the womb
[00:27:07] of suffering from 14 years of displacement,
[00:27:10] killing, striking, camps, and refuge.
[00:27:14] The Syrian situation is similar to the Libyan situation to some extent,
[00:27:16] in terms of the outbreak of the revolution, the militarization of the revolution,
[00:27:20] factions, and so on. Therefore, we share
[00:27:23] common suffering before we share common
[00:27:26] interests. Suffering is what unites before
[00:27:29] interests.
[00:27:33] people's feeling about the Libyan situation
[00:27:36] and the Libyan people is highly sensitive because
[00:27:40] we share the same suffering. There was the same
[00:27:44] the same thuggery against the Syrian and Libyan
[00:27:47] peoples, and the Syrian and Libyan peoples rose up
[00:27:50] for liberation. What happened was the presence of Hay'at
[00:27:53] Tahrir al-Sham, and His Excellency President Ahmed al-Sharaa had a global strategic
[00:27:57] mindset, not just a local one. He carried out a wonderful liberation
[00:28:00] operation and brought about a radical change
[00:28:04] in the concept of groups and the concept of states. I will not delve into that.
[00:28:07] Therefore, we share with Libya the same suffering, the same wound,
[00:28:13] our brothers and sisters in Libya, and this builds
[00:28:16] on the unity of interests.
[00:28:19] More interaction. We are children of one suffering. I mean, when
[00:28:23] Al-Sheibani is the one who visits Libya, he knows
[00:28:26] what the suffering of the citizen is, too. The Libyan people are suffering from displacement, refuge,
[00:28:29] division, and conflict. Therefore, he can influence,
[00:28:33] even with a word,
[00:28:35] the two governments to have some kind
[00:28:39] of solution, perhaps, and also some kind
[00:28:46] the Libyan side, and Libya has great geopolitical
[00:28:50] and economic importance, not only in the energy sector,
[00:28:53] but in the transport sector, supply chains, and so on, and the depth that
[00:28:57] Libya holds in the African continent, and the weight that
[00:29:00] Libya holds in that Mediterranean region,
[00:29:03] and its view of Turkey, and so on. There are shared territorial waters, and there are
[00:29:07] also gas pipelines and transcontinental
[00:29:10] projects that may pass through Libya, and Libya will be a large part of it.
[00:29:13] Therefore, the intersection of these interests
[00:29:16] and circumstances with the two sides
[00:29:19] that the two parties open initiatives and channels
[00:29:23] to strengthen the relationship further.
[00:29:26] reality that we discussed in detail,
[00:29:29] Mr. Mohamed Mahfouz, how can these diplomatic
[00:29:33] Syrian moves reflect on the conditions of
[00:29:36] Syrians residing in eastern Libya, and also what
[00:29:40] do these Syrian-Libyan relations need to move from political
[00:29:44] communication to tangible
[00:29:47] reality in
[00:29:48] Libya?
[00:29:51] No doubt, at the level of the community and the Syrian
[00:29:55] brothers residing in Libya, this is a
[00:29:58] very important development. The opening of the embassy this
[00:30:04] enhances the provision and facilitation of services
[00:30:07] to Syrian citizens. Perhaps now, the desired
[00:30:11] steps in the coming period are to activate airline
[00:30:15] routes more broadly.
[00:30:18] flights so far, of course, due to logistical circumstances. Of course,
[00:30:22] there are no other obstacles or impediments,
[00:30:25] but
[00:30:28] the Syrian community, in many of its aspects, and we feel it, and we have
[00:30:31] relations with many friends here in Tripoli, for example,
[00:30:38] sometimes, to go to Damascus
[00:30:42] and to Syria Jordan. They go to
[00:30:45] Amman, after that they go.
[00:30:48] And as a result of the limited number of flights
[00:30:51] between Damascus and Tripoli, this matter.