SYRIANNEWS — broadcast 20261012 043000 UTC 451 transcript segments Google Cloud Speech-to-Text API (Chirp) + Gemini 2.5 Flash Non-Thinking Data courtesy of The GDELT Project (https://www.gdeltproject.org/), from the Internet Archive TV News Archive. Machine transcription. Treat it as a searchable index of what was broadcast, not a verbatim quotation record. [00:00:00] The suffering of Syrians in Libya. This [00:00:03] development is of exaggerated importance, meaning the opening of the embassy [00:00:07] and also the opening of the consulate. This [00:00:09] enhances the provision and facilitation of services to Syrian [00:00:14] tightening the noose on citizens. Perhaps now, the desired steps in the coming period [00:00:18] are to activate air lines more extensively. [00:00:21] There are a limited number of [00:00:24] Therefore, collecting information flights until now, of course, due to logistical conditions. [00:00:27] Of course, there are no other obstacles or impediments. [00:00:30] However, [00:00:33] the Syrian side, in many cases, and we perceive it, and we have [00:00:36] relationships with many friends here in Tripoli, for [00:00:40] example, they are forced, for example, in many cases or [00:00:43] times [00:00:46] catastrophe. I mean, some have to Damascus and to Syria via [00:00:48] Jordan. They go to Amman, and after that, [00:00:51] they go, and as a result of the limited [00:00:54] flights [00:00:57] criminals. And I do not believe between Damascus and Tripoli, this matter [00:01:00] will probably be activated in the coming period. There is a new [00:01:03] airport being prepared for opening during these [00:01:07] weeks in Tripoli, Tripoli International Airport, which was [00:01:10] closed throughout the past years due [00:01:13] to the conflict and war that took place in [00:01:16] the area that this airport contains. [00:01:19] The airport was completely destroyed in 2014. It was [00:01:22] rebuilt during the past year and this year, and it will [00:01:27] who worked in the Republican be opened during this period. Undoubtedly, the reopening of Tripoli [00:01:29] International Airport [00:01:32] and committed many violations will be a gateway for renewed communication and the revival of [00:01:36] follow-ups and pursuits. [00:01:36] I ask you, how do you view flights between many countries, including Syria, undoubtedly. Therefore, the return [00:01:40] of the embassy to work [00:01:43] whether terrorist or drug with a chargé d'affaires in Tripoli, and the arrest of organizations, and the return of the consulate to work in [00:01:47] criminals, Benghazi, this is a high level of communication and a high level of activity [00:01:51] is now that will undoubtedly continue and will be enhanced, as I told [00:01:54] you, and will be greater [00:01:56] these security operations, or significantly more [00:01:58] role, military operations, and raids in effective if there is a serious comparison [00:02:01] newly established, for unifying authority in Libya in its precise sense, not the concept [00:02:04] of power-sharing that has been tried in many [00:02:06] cases, but it leads Libya to a blocked path, either to a new [00:02:10] armed conflict, God forbid, or to more division and fragmentation [00:02:15] in all regions, than Libya is suffering from today. Yes, let me conclude with you, Mr. Muhammad Jalal. You touched upon [00:02:19] security cooperation at the beginning of this visit. You mentioned that [00:02:23] the head of the intelligence agency is also present during this visit. What is [00:02:27] the status of security cooperation today between the two countries, meaning on a more [00:02:31] that after two years of regular basis in the future? What is this position for Syria after [00:02:34] joining the international coalition against terrorism, against ISIS? It [00:02:37] formed a spearhead [00:02:40] for fighting [00:02:42] because there is no way, ISIS and fighting terrorism, and for [00:02:45] the international coalition [00:02:46] is one of the reasons that forced Therefore, cooperation with the Libyan side on security [00:02:50] files is built upon this. There are [00:02:53] always turbulent environments that provide safe havens [00:02:56] for those fleeing [00:02:58] agency, in conjunction with Syria or from different countries, and among [00:03:08] some aspects between Libya and not the central government, but different [00:03:12] governments on the periphery, as well as between them and the Syrian government previously. [00:03:16] Therefore, there may be an escape [00:03:18] for wanted Syrians to Libya and their presence in [00:03:22] Benghazi, and I believe this is the main reason [00:03:25] for Abdelkader Dahhan's presence. Therefore, there is [00:03:28] a pursuit of justice abroad, as well as [00:03:32] justice [00:03:35] rebuilding the ability to live. and we will come to the second axis regarding the security [00:03:39] and justice [00:04:09] The second axis in [00:04:11] and they fall into our security axis. The Internal Security Forces announced the arrest of former [00:04:15] Brigadier General in the Republican Guard of the defunct regime, Marid [00:04:18] Mohammed, known by the title "Guardian of [00:04:22] cooperation in arresting these is a clear indication of the extent of the internal the Capital," due to his military role in the operations and military [00:04:25] raids that several areas in the Damascus countryside [00:04:28] witnessed. Let's follow. [00:04:30] We return [00:04:33] gradually. The criminals [00:04:35] we talk about the process of searching fall into the hands of the security forces to be brought to [00:04:38] the platform of justice, carrying their black record [00:04:43] you asked it on the street in that the killing and extermination machine wrote during the era of [00:04:47] of explosions of the defunct regime. After days of arresting the criminal Jamal [00:04:50] Traboulsi, who is considered the right-hand man of the Banyas [00:04:53] butcher, Ali Kayali, another criminal falls [00:04:57] into the hands of justice, none other than the criminal [00:05:01] Marid Muhammad, the Brigadier General in the defunct Republican Guard and close to [00:05:05] the fugitive criminal Ghiath Dhulla. The importance of [00:05:08] the event does not come from the arrest of the criminals of the [00:05:11] defunct regime alone, as thousands of them have been arrested, [00:05:15] but these two criminals [00:05:18] are directly linked to the architects [00:05:21] of the genocide against the Syrian people, and their arrest [00:05:24] means the remaining [00:05:28] fugitives, and the investigations contribute to uncovering [00:05:31] many links of crime over a decade [00:05:34] and a half, in addition to thwarting the plots [00:05:38] concocted and still being concocted by the remaining [00:05:41] remnants outside the grip of justice. The [00:05:44] event also serves as an indicator of the readiness [00:05:47] of the security forces and their ability to strike the criminals' dens [00:05:51] and track down the wanted with high-sensitivity [00:05:54] intelligence support that managed [00:05:57] to apprehend thousands of wanted persons despite [00:06:01] the proliferation of chaos branches and their receiving external support [00:06:05] and their attempts to exploit the security transformations [00:06:08] that Syria went through to implement sabotage and terrorism [00:06:12] plots. The criminal Marid Muhammad was [00:06:16] not the first and will not be the last in [00:06:19] the series of security operations extending throughout [00:06:22] the political geography and beyond, [00:06:26] intelligence-wise and diplomatically, [00:06:29] until the arrest of the last fugitive criminal, [00:06:32] especially those at the top of the defunct [00:06:35] destruction system. [00:06:39] I will expand further on this file. I welcome my guest, writer and political [00:06:42] analyst, Professor Mustafa Al-Naimi. Welcome, Professor Mustafa, [00:06:46] to this axis in Syria Time. My greetings to you, Professor Abdul [00:06:49] Razzaq, and to the dear viewers of Syrian News. Welcome. [00:06:52] So, the former Brigadier General in the [00:06:55] Republican Guard, Marid Muhammad, [00:06:58] affiliated with the former defunct regime, known by the title "Guardian of the Capital," [00:07:03] in the net, arrested. [00:07:07] This is also in connection with his military [00:07:10] many Syrian cities, especially the capital and Damascus [00:07:14] countryside. How do we interpret, in the first place, [00:07:17] the arrest of a criminal of this magnitude [00:07:20] at this time, within this series of successful [00:07:24] and continuous security operations [00:07:27] by the Internal Security Forces throughout Syria? Yes, undoubtedly, the arrest [00:07:30] of war criminals who participated in the Syrian slaughter over [00:07:34] 14 years began from the first moment of the liberation of the Syrian capital, Damascus, [00:07:37] and that was through Syrian geography as a first stage, and [00:07:41] then the region, leading to the international system. [00:07:45] Consequently, these people have a great fear of [00:07:48] traveling outside the country, as well as the arrests of some [00:07:52] criminals in regional countries. Of course, I am referring to Lebanon, for [00:07:55] example, and others. Perhaps this [00:07:59] them to remain in Syrian geography, given that they are now [00:08:02] wanted. As for this specific timing, I believe there are [00:08:06] intelligence efforts at the highest levels being exerted by the intelligence [00:08:10] similar efforts being exerted by the foreign intelligence [00:08:14] agency. Therefore, the process of cross-referencing that [00:08:17] data and communicating through a series of information [00:08:21] that is being collected, I believe, is what led to the arrest of [00:08:25] the criminal Muhammad, sorry, Marid Muhammad. [00:08:28] And I believe that there may also be a series of criminals [00:08:31] who were working in his ranks, [00:08:34] and that is what the initial investigation [00:08:37] that the Ministry of Interior will conduct will determine. Of course, through [00:08:41] the process of arresting them, through the investigation process, many [00:08:45] threads of these terrorist groups that had participated [00:08:48] in the killing of the Syrian people over the previous [00:08:52] years will be revealed. I will pause briefly at this title, "Guardian of the Capital." [00:08:56] What does this mean? What is the security role attributed to this criminal, [00:08:59] Marid Muhammad? Yes, there is no doubt that the names that war criminals [00:09:03] such as Suhail Al-Hassan and others were given, [00:09:07] yes, are tools of intimidation used against the Syrian people. But [00:09:11] the "Guardian of the Capital," what did he do for the capital? He fled from the first [00:09:15] moment the Aggression Deterrence Operations Room announced that it was coming [00:09:18] towards the Syrian capital, Damascus, and he did not confront [00:09:21] the forces that were coming towards the Syrian capital, Damascus, even though he comes from [00:09:25] a military institution, and the Republican Guard is considered one of the most important military institutions [00:09:29] to which he belonged. But practically, the disintegration of these institutions [00:09:34] collapse and the collapse in fighting morale. Also, [00:09:37] when we talk about the crimes committed, these criminals [00:09:41] certainly had a great fear, and practically, when I also talk [00:09:45] about the issue of striking central operations rooms and the collapse of [00:09:48] first-tier leaders, I am not talking about regional leaders, but first-tier [00:09:51] leaders of senior ranks, high-ranking commanders, [00:09:55] of course, I am talking about colonels and brigadier generals and [00:09:59] others who fled the battlefield, thus leaving [00:10:03] their elements, and the work of these groups was confined to [00:10:06] specific paths, which then led to successive [00:10:10] collapses. Perhaps the positive messages issued by the Aggression Operations [00:10:13] Room, starting with "Go, you are free," had a positive echo and [00:10:17] spared a lot of Syrian blood. At the same time, after [00:10:20] this reconciliation process that took place, and the process of identifying [00:10:24] these people who belonged to the military establishment, [00:10:28] and granting them settlement cards, [00:10:31] this also limited their ability to move within Syrian [00:10:35] geography, and at the same time, they were placed under surveillance. [00:10:38] Practically, those who were present did not have a comprehensive [00:10:41] database at the time of the Syrian Revolution about their activities. [00:10:45] However, based on the investigations and the apprehension of terrorist [00:10:49] networks, by which I mean local, regional, and international networks, [00:10:52] these people who used foreign fighters, for example, Hezbollah [00:10:56] of Lebanon, the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, [00:11:00] the Quds Force, Zeinabiyoun, Fatimiyoun, and so on, there was coordination [00:11:03] between the field commanders, including the "Guardian of the Syrian [00:11:07] Capital, Damascus." So, I believe that these measures taken by the Syrian [00:11:11] government and the approach adopted by the Ministry of Interior [00:11:15] in dealing with war criminals were positive and contributed [00:11:18] significantly to apprehending these [00:11:22] that there will be an end to these operations; on the contrary, there [00:11:25] is progress in these operations based on the policies [00:11:28] that the police, which leads these operations, and the security [00:11:31] agencies that are concerned with the issue of prosecuting war criminals, [00:11:35] have set. Yes, I include in this discussion [00:11:38] Mr. Muhammad Nasser Al-Biqai, military analyst, who joins us [00:11:41] by phone from Damascus. Welcome, Mr. Muhammad Nasser. [00:11:45] So, the arrest of Marid Muhammad, [00:11:49] nicknamed "Guardian of the Capital," [00:11:52] Guard during the era of the defunct regime, [00:11:57] against the free Syrians, [00:12:01] the security coordination today by the Internal [00:12:04] Security Forces in Syria in the process of arresting these [00:12:07] criminals? [00:12:09] Good evening, Professor Abdul Razzaq, [00:12:12] good evening to you and to the viewers [00:12:14] of Al-Ikhbariya Channel. [00:12:17] In truth, regardless of the names, [00:12:21] Professor Abdul Razzaq, whether it was Marid Muhammad or Khalid [00:12:25] Barouni, Abu Hassan Dushka, who the Syrian forces arrested, [00:12:29] or Faisal Bedour, or Haitham [00:12:31] Barakat, the Brigadier General in the Republican Guard, or all those [00:12:35] murderous, criminal names who wreaked havoc [00:12:38] and killed the Syrian people and shed Syrian [00:12:41] blood. The coordination between the security agencies, [00:12:45] between intelligence, internal security, and the army, was at [00:12:48] its peak in the past months, and we will not say [00:12:52] that this happened after the establishment of a specialized [00:12:55] operations room for [00:12:58] the remnants. Since the launch of the transitional [00:13:02] justice process, Professor Abdul Razzaq, in Syria after the overthrow [00:13:05] of the defunct Assad regime, the Syrian security agencies [00:13:08] adopted a systematic approach to achieve transitional justice. [00:13:12] They made settlements for those elements of officers, non-commissioned [00:13:16] officers, and soldiers, and most importantly, [00:13:18] they created a database [00:13:22] of information for those [00:13:25] former officials, and they made settlements for some of them. [00:13:28] Therefore, some [00:13:32] thought that when the state [00:13:36] made these settlements, they were outside [00:13:39] the transitional justice framework, true. But there [00:13:43] is evidence, laws, witnesses, [00:13:44] and documents. [00:13:47] Yes, but there are witnesses, evidence, and documents that they [00:13:50] did not consider. Yes, no, no, they thought [00:13:53] the matter was gone for good. [00:13:56] Sir, when the forces entered, [00:13:58] when the opposition forces and President [00:14:02] Ahmed Al-Shara entered Syria/Damascus, they [00:14:06] burned all the data information. They burned [00:14:09] the intelligence branches, the criminal security. They burned all [00:14:13] the documents that could indicate or point [00:14:16] to those criminals and killers. [00:14:19] But the awakening of the Syrian people, there are people [00:14:22] who document, Professor Abdul Razzaq, by God, it is true. [00:14:33] one by one, [00:14:36] the traps. Yes, "Go, you are free" is [00:14:39] not for those whose hands are stained with blood. It is not [00:14:43] for those for whom there is evidence and documents showing [00:14:46] his criminality and his killing of Syrians, and his storming of cities [00:14:49] and villages, and his abuses against the property of the Syrian [00:14:53] people. Today, the importance of actually [00:14:56] making the victims feel that the issues [00:14:59] of violations are still present in the work of these security [00:15:03] institutions and transferring them to a judicial path to [00:15:06] guarantee their rights. Yes, there is no doubt that the operation [00:15:09] they are talking about, or the operation that began with the liberation of the Syrian capital, Damascus, [00:15:13] specifically, "Go, you are free," had a meaning, and that was to spare [00:15:17] Syrian blood, given that some would entrench themselves, and if [00:15:20] they entrenched themselves, there would be clashes and casualties. Therefore, [00:15:23] the saying in managing this stage was 100% correct. And the [00:15:27] settlement process also defined locations and also [00:15:30] the mechanism of communication with them. Also, at the same time, [00:15:34] it identifies the networks they deal with, such as [00:15:37] contact numbers or others. Based on [00:15:41] that, I believe that the transitional justice phase will begin [00:15:45] from the first moment of the arrest of these criminals. And at the same [00:15:49] time, perhaps some wonder why these people are not executed. [00:15:52] I believe there may be a series of local, [00:15:56] regional, and international terrorist networks with which they are connected. [00:16:01] about those who operate along this path, and there is no doubt [00:16:05] that when we talk about this path, there are attempts to tamper [00:16:08] with Syrian security, and the way the Syrian state deals with them. Some of these [00:16:12] who carried weapons against the Syrian state were among those who made settlements. [00:16:16] So, practically, when you talk about the connection of these networks and the process [00:16:19] of dismantling these networks, it requires gradual administrations, [00:16:22] starting with allowing them to move, and then arresting everyone [00:16:26] whose hands are stained with blood. In addition, even those [00:16:29] who made settlements, including these criminals who were arrested, [00:16:33] there was no comprehensive database about the nature [00:16:37] and circumstances of these leaders. However, when we go back to [00:16:40] the history of the Syrian Revolution, specifically the crimes committed in the Syrian [00:16:44] capital, Damascus, we notice that there are leaders of these security campaigns [00:16:48] and there are defected officers from these divisions and brigades that [00:16:51] were leading those operations. Therefore, identifying these names [00:16:55] that were managing these military operations and contributed to [00:16:58] the massacres, certainly those data intersected [00:17:01] with the documentation sources that they were doing [00:17:05] in the Syrian Revolution, and practically led to [00:17:08] the arrest of these criminals after local, regional, and international [00:17:13] Yes, well, in this context, Mr. Muhammad [00:17:17] Nasser Al-Biqai, are there perhaps challenges facing [00:17:21] the security agencies in pursuing these wanted individuals [00:17:23] for justice, in your opinion? Of course, Professor [00:17:27] Abdul Razzaq, there are great challenges, meaning you know [00:17:30] that the Syrian geography is large, and that the security [00:17:33] agencies, the army, and the police are [00:17:38] there are not large numbers, but successive training courses [00:17:42] I believe will cover the existing shortage of personnel and expertise. [00:17:46] But with the awareness of the Syrian [00:17:49] people, with the awareness of people [00:17:53] whether on the coast or inland or in all cities, [00:17:56] to point out those criminals [00:17:59] and killers, this also relieves the Syrian [00:18:02] security forces by pointing them out. But I [00:18:05] believe, I believe [00:18:08] liberation, those criminals who [00:18:11] are hiding, the matter has become urgent for them, [00:18:14] perhaps in the coming days, some of them will surrender [00:18:19] there is no amnesty for them, and no way to hide longer, [00:18:23] and they cannot leave Syria. All borders are [00:18:27] semi-closed to them, and there is a tightening [00:18:29] on them from neighboring countries. Meaning, at the beginning of the liberation, [00:18:33] whoever fled to Russia fled, whoever fled to Lebanon fled, [00:18:37] Iran fled outside Syria. Those who remained [00:18:40] are those criminals who could not [00:18:44] escape, and the big criminals who used [00:18:47] these killers to kill the Syrian [00:18:55] Sir Muhammad, [00:18:59] perhaps we lost contact with Professor Muhammad [00:19:02] Nasser Al-Biqai, military analyst, our guest from Damascus. [00:19:06] Back to you, of course, Professor. Professor Mustafa, today there [00:19:09] were also visits recently by the Ministry of Interior outside [00:19:13] Syria, perhaps to enhance [00:19:16] path. What is the importance of this coordination, these security [00:19:20] and judicial expertise between countries, perhaps in the [00:19:23] context of pursuing the accused and these criminals? Yes, there is no doubt that [00:19:27] the security communication between the Syrian Ministry of Interior [00:19:29] and its counterparts in neighboring countries, especially the Hashemite [00:19:33] Kingdom of Jordan, involved cooperation at the highest levels. [00:19:37] And we noticed that the information exchange was immediate, and this [00:19:40] is what the Jordanian Ministry of Interior demonstrated, which is a clear [00:19:43] indication of the importance of information exchange and the importance of apprehending [00:19:46] these criminals who travel, of course, whether in Syrian [00:19:50] or Jordanian territories, as well as Lebanese or the region in general. [00:19:53] We are talking about security cooperation and intelligence [00:19:56] cooperation, and the importance of this [00:20:00] criminals. I believe there has been significant progress in this [00:20:03] field, especially since the nature of the relations between the Syrian [00:20:08] Arab Republic and the entire international community was, and then [00:20:13] for these criminals and the cooperation of security agencies abroad. Perhaps some countries [00:20:16] have not signed agreements and treaties for the extradition [00:20:20] of criminals, such as Russia, for example. How will they be dealt with? [00:20:23] There are some challenges, as you mentioned a little while ago during your [00:20:27] conversation with the esteemed guest. I believe those who are abroad [00:20:30] are also a very big challenge, and these are the big heads, [00:20:34] as many say, for example, the head of the defunct regime. [00:20:40] And there are 100 figures on the lists of the International Criminal Court, [00:20:44] and the vast majority of them have not been arrested. There [00:20:48] are many of them who are still outside the reach of justice, [00:20:52] but practically, when you talk about the countries to which they [00:20:55] fled, and the exceptional circumstances through which they fled, and the [00:20:59] process of lifting immunity from them, there is a gradual legal [00:21:02] path that is being dealt with, and then reaching these criminals, [00:21:06] and also communicating with those countries that have not signed [00:21:10] the issue of extradition. I mean, it is not only [00:21:13] a path in the countries that have signed those treaties. There are [00:21:16] some countries that have not signed, so it is necessary to [00:21:21] conclude a protocol of understanding with those countries that harbor [00:21:24] these criminals, and among them, some sought refuge on humanitarian [00:21:28] grounds, and some on political grounds, and some obtained forged [00:21:32] documents. Here is the biggest [00:21:36] obtained forged documents from neighboring countries or countries [00:21:39] in general, and therefore, how will they be dealt with? I believe [00:21:43] that the legal path, and here we are talking about the path of the [00:21:46] Ministry of Interior in dealing with them, there is a database that [00:21:50] can also be matched with these databases [00:21:53] with the names of those who were granted citizenship, and then comparing [00:21:57] the fingerprints. We are talking about fingerprints, as well as [00:22:00] iris prints. And therefore, that information, [00:22:04] the intersection of that information between the Syrian leadership [00:22:07] and the countries of the world, leads to the arrest of [00:22:11] these criminals, even under the false names they used [00:22:14] to reach them. So, this path requires a long time [00:22:18] and patience, because the criminals [00:22:21] are many. What do you say to those who say today that behind [00:22:25] every announcement of the arrest of a criminal, behind every [00:22:28] announcement of a security operation [00:22:33] gangs, or many [00:22:37] they say it is a spur-of-the-moment thing that happens by chance? [00:22:41] Many do not know that between every announcement of one of [00:22:46] there are intensive security operations that almost never cease. So, [00:22:58] there must be people whose arrest has not been announced, because [00:23:02] announcing their arrest will lead to the escape of these [00:23:05] terrorist cells present within Syrian territory. So, practically, [00:23:09] when they are arrested, there are investigations, and these [00:23:12] investigations also lead to the arrest of a series of these [00:23:16] criminals who are working to destabilize Syria's security. [00:23:20] Great efforts are made by the Internal Security Forces to pursue [00:23:23] these criminals and achieve justice and establish the rule [00:25:14] In confronting organized and cyber crimes, [00:25:18] international will stands [00:25:20] to dismantle the causes of crime. [00:25:24] Syria enters a new national phase in which [00:25:27] it seeks to rebuild state institutions [00:25:30] on the basis of the rule of law and community protection. [00:25:34] The 15th United Nations Congress on Crime Prevention [00:25:37] in the Emirati capital Abu Dhabi brings together [00:25:41] policymakers to address security challenges [00:25:43] and establish a new charter [00:25:46] for community protection. From this international [00:25:50] event, Syria embodies its vision [00:25:52] and determination to build a state governed by [00:25:56] law. Our conference today is being held at a time [00:26:00] of profound transformations in the nature of crime [00:26:04] and its means of commission. The Syrian Arab Republic [00:26:07] looks forward to the Abu Dhabi Declaration establishing [00:26:10] a new phase of joint international action [00:26:14] in which commitments are transformed into practical cooperation. [00:27:33] Land border crossings are wide gateways [00:27:37] that welcome arrivals and bid farewell to departures, [00:27:41] and supply lines through which goods [00:27:44] and commodities flow. Syrian land crossings today [00:27:48] are witnessing a comprehensive development movement, [00:27:51] as efforts are being combined to pave the roads of [00:27:55] the crossings and upgrade facilities and improve land [00:27:59] outlets to be economic bridges [00:28:02] that import and export convoys cross. [00:28:06] The development operations for land outlets are [00:28:08] not merely infrastructure restoration [00:28:11] but rather a comprehensive preparation [00:28:15] path for stable commercial exchange lines [00:28:18] and safe humanitarian crossing. [00:28:35] In previous years, camps were a humanitarian [00:28:39] necessity that saved the lives of Syrians, but they were always a temporary [00:28:42] solution and cannot become [00:28:45] a permanent future for entire [00:28:47] generations. [00:28:52] Our experience tells us that sustainable return requires four [00:28:55] interconnected elements. First, safety. There [00:28:59] can [00:29:01] be no safe return before the removal of mines [00:29:05] and unexploded ordnance and war [00:29:08] remnants. Second, rehabilitation [00:29:11] of damaged areas. Removing rubble, opening roads, [00:29:14] and resuming infrastructure operations are essential [00:29:17] for people's return. Third, basic [00:29:20] services. Schools, health centers, [00:29:24] water, electricity, bakeries, and roads are what make [00:29:28] a community livable again. another, and fourth, ways of [00:29:31] living. We are not only talking about rebuilding [00:29:35] buildings, but about [00:30:37] did the last liter of gasoline cost you [00:30:40] that you put in your car? This is a question that, if [00:30:46] the square, you would get answers in the form [00:30:50] anger against everyone who [00:30:53] filled people's cars with adulterated fuel, [00:30:56] turning them into piles of