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[00:00:07] Anything that helps research on this them live a dignified life and obtain
[00:00:10] their rights, this is what we believe. This is a legitimate right for them before it is a
[00:00:14] human right or a societal right. However,
[00:00:17] the issue is, I say I am in favor, but
[00:00:21] this project must be looked at from
[00:00:24] more than one dimension. We have the security dimension, for example,
[00:00:27] consider the our brother Professor Muslim
[00:00:31] certificates and did not receive said that citizenship should be granted, and this is an opinion I respect. I am now speaking
[00:00:33] my opinion as a member of the
[00:00:36] someone from People's Assembly. When the
[00:00:38] This may relieve law is given to us, we will definitely discuss it as I am speaking now, and perhaps
[00:00:41] now I will hear from one of the esteemed guests a point
[00:00:44] that will change my conviction. Perhaps I am now talking about a point
[00:00:47] that will change the conviction of others. The security dimension is very important. For example, it is
[00:00:52] his father was from obtain not reasonable for a Syrian wife married to a militia leader
[00:00:55] citizenship if this who killed many Syrians. This is also a
[00:00:58] humanitarian dimension. How can I give them a reward
[00:01:02] with Syrian citizenship, even though
[00:01:05] he killed Syrian people? Then I will make this number of children
[00:01:09] a source of influence or a point or a
[00:01:12] mine. I don't know how it will work. So there must be a
[00:01:15] social dimension, which is the easiest. You have the
[00:01:18] legal dimension. I say legally, there is no objection
[00:01:22] from the broad legal ruling. There is no objection to
[00:01:25] granting citizenship to children.
[00:01:30] Syrian citizenship because it is practically an administrative decision.
[00:01:34] Islamophobia. No, we need to be a little far from this There may be some conflicting details, and this therefore contradicts the
[00:01:37] But brother, there are changes in Syria on constitutional declaration. So we are, I am in favor in general, as a broad line, I am
[00:01:40] in favor, but there must be restrictions and some precautions,
[00:01:44] as Dr.
[00:01:46] are your fears that stop only at Kinda mentioned, the issue of security approval or I don't remember
[00:01:48] who, there are some approvals that must be in place. The time is
[00:01:51] open. The project may be presented now and take its time for study
[00:01:55] and take a year or two until
[00:01:58] Thank you. Actually, this it matures and then a law is issued.
[00:02:08] It should be easy. I mean, now when we hear the statement, we think that next Sunday
[00:02:11] we have a session or this legislative session will be decided. We don't
[00:02:15] know the time. It needs discussion. It's not that
[00:02:19] easy. Okay, Dr. Kinda, do you have a comment? It seems, if
[00:02:22] you please. Yes, because I have the right to respond to
[00:02:25] a remark by one of the esteemed attendees when he said that
[00:02:29] the child must be, and this deprives him of his right. Because I did not complete
[00:02:33] my answer, because there is also a second part of the proposed solutions or the vision
[00:02:36] of solutions by one of the participants, and I prefer to say it
[00:02:40] quickly, as usual. For example, I did not say this
[00:02:44] is the child's right. There is a difference between granting random naturalization,
[00:02:47] as he said, this mine, random naturalization without even
[00:02:51] security approval, as one of the guests mentioned. Even in stable
[00:02:54] countries like Canada and America, you need clearance and security,
[00:02:58] and you go to the FBI and you go to, and these are stable countries
[00:03:01] and they have amazing data systems. So how
[00:03:05] about us in such a country? Secondly, of course, there is a difference between
[00:03:08] naturalization and separating
[00:03:10] created a system that living and humanitarian rights from
[00:03:12] sovereign and political rights.
[00:03:16] married one of This child, until he reaches adulthood, his right is absolute.
[00:03:19] This is what I was going to say, that giving him his rights
[00:03:23] see them. So this is a rare case. I mean, it cannot in education, in medicine, in everything,
[00:03:25] this is not, until he chooses
[00:03:29] but this adulthood and reaches that age and studies are completed,
[00:03:32] and of course, he cannot pay the price of his father's criminal
[00:03:35] or security choices. However,
[00:03:37] But I want this I answered in general that this
[00:03:39] law to take its course in file, should it be presented immediately, like this?
[00:03:42] Even if the study takes a month or two? I think not, as the
[00:03:46] member of the People's Assembly said, it needs a lot of study, and not
[00:03:49] just legislative study, as we said, from all economic
[00:03:53] and security aspects, because you are going to bring back, as he said, possibly hundreds of thousands of
[00:03:58] women are those who were found in foreigners to add them to
[00:04:01] a destroyed economy without an environment. We are now building
[00:04:03] agrees on this the infrastructure. All of this
[00:04:05] means, I think, it's wrong.
[00:04:09] Two, that there is, for example, gender equality.
[00:04:13] Of course, this is not a luxury. But at the same time, we
[00:04:16] do not jump to this without
[00:04:19] defusing a very ticking time bomb. I mean, you understand
[00:04:22] that we have many economic, security, and real estate
[00:04:26] aspects, and from all aspects. So it needs to be studied legislatively,
[00:04:30] economically, and even securely.
[00:04:32] And then, of course, because there is no
[00:04:36] just peace or sustainability. I always mention that studies show
[00:04:40] And to Ras al-Ain in that peace in which women participate has more continuity
[00:04:43] than three times that in which men participate, sometimes
[00:04:47] even. So, of course, there will be no peace. We will reach
[00:04:51] title is that we are with stability and peace in Syria if Dr. K is not there. I mean,
[00:04:55] I support what you mentioned. China, for example,
[00:04:58] prohibits marriage. Citizenship. Rather, if
[00:05:01] a Chinese
[00:05:04] Darayya and its removal and transfer in citizen applies for, for example, American citizenship, this
[00:05:06] is a problem. He may lose his Chinese citizenship. So if he takes American citizenship,
[00:05:10] he loses it. Why? This is a national security dimension.
[00:05:13] So, I mean, we are not isolated. We are not now on a path
[00:05:16] where there is no one in the universe
[00:05:20] but us. And now, I mean, Syrian mothers should not misunderstand
[00:05:24] me as being frustrated by my words, but I am now describing the reality.
[00:05:27] And perhaps there will be satisfactory and reassuring solutions,
[00:05:31] but the public interest should
[00:05:35] first be put first, and then we begin to
[00:05:39] cases and enact a law for these cases. For example, Syrian
[00:05:43] mothers married to Palestinians. This is a reality
[00:05:47] in our society.
[00:05:50] many of them. So the matter is not that easy. Well,
[00:05:54] the matter is not that easy. Let's hear Dr. Osama's
[00:05:57] opinion. Well, with all due respect
[00:06:01] to the esteemed guests, but do you see the matter as being
[00:06:05] this simple, this easy, Dr. Osama? By
[00:06:08] God, it couldn't be simpler. Our security fears are misplaced.
[00:06:12] First of all, the doctor mentioned that all these security threats
[00:06:15] surrounding Syria, there is no security threat
[00:06:18] from naturalizing a child, right? Who takes Syrian citizenship. There is no
[00:06:22] security threat from that. The honorable brothers confused
[00:06:25] granting citizenship
[00:06:28] to a person who holds another citizenship with
[00:06:32] a child born or who was born
[00:06:35] to a Syrian mother. There is a difference. This is a grant,
[00:06:37] and this is a right. When there is a leader,
[00:06:40] yes,
[00:06:46] there is a big difference. When I am, for example, of
[00:06:49] Egyptian nationality, for example, and I came and applied for Syrian citizenship, this
[00:06:53] is a grant from the state that it gives to him. Yes, that's right. Whereas,
[00:06:57] when my mother is Syrian or my father is Syrian, this is our right to take it,
[00:07:00] regardless of my father's crime and regardless of my mother's crime.
[00:07:04] If we were to think in this way, our citizenships would be revoked.
[00:07:07] No, I am one of the people who were born abroad.
[00:07:11] All my life, I have been an opponent since
[00:07:13] 1967 before Hafez al-Assad. He was an opponent
[00:07:17] of Amin al-Hafez. So is this
[00:07:20] logical to say that for security reasons we are postponing this matter?
[00:07:23] No, this is a right, a right, not a grant.
[00:07:27] Dr. Abdullah said, Osama, Dr. Osama, you
[00:07:30] no, my brother, with all due respect, you
[00:07:33] are giving him his right. There
[00:07:36] is Asdal Osama. Go ahead, Dr. Abdullah. Dr. Osama,
[00:07:40] is the
[00:07:42] situation we are in now as a law? I said that we are in favor.
[00:07:46] In broad terms, we are in favor of that. But if we go
[00:07:49] into details, there must be some restrictions that protect
[00:07:53] the process. Well, are we as Syria,
[00:07:57] excuse me, are we in Syria the
[00:08:00] only ones? No, you have all the Gulf countries prohibiting dual
[00:08:03] nationality, and this will therefore be if the child is from
[00:08:07] a non-Syrian father, meaning he will take the nationality of the non-Syrian father,
[00:08:10] then he will take the nationality.
[00:08:19] I say, have we now
[00:08:22] no other country agrees with us on? So there are considerations. We
[00:08:26] are not walking on Earth alone. We haven't invented
[00:08:29] a law. No, Dr. Osama,
[00:08:32] I mean, the system now in Syria in this
[00:08:35] regard is like Europe, like European countries. Right, Dr.
[00:08:39] Osama, just allow me. No, even Egypt, Egypt
[00:08:42] amended the law, and Morocco amended the law,
[00:08:46] and the mother now grants citizenship. So we
[00:08:49] are not talking about something impossible. And there are many observations about Gulf
[00:08:53] countries regarding granting visas. I want to
[00:08:56] clarify a point so that we move away a little from this problem and discuss
[00:08:59] more the societal repercussions of such a law.
[00:09:03] The basic idea is that I don't think anyone disagrees with the other
[00:09:07] regarding the natural right for the woman to give her child
[00:09:10] citizenship based on blood relation.
[00:09:13] I think everyone
[00:09:15] matter. The basic idea is that
[00:09:19] in Syria, not everyone agrees. The guests do not
[00:09:22] agree. I saw that they do agree, but
[00:09:26] let me just say one thing.
[00:09:29] I mean, I emphasized, I said repeatedly in the great title. It seems Dr. Osama
[00:09:32] did not understand
[00:09:34] your point. Let me
[00:09:37] let me complete the main point, which is that
[00:09:40] we in Syria, due to the situation we lived through,
[00:09:43] the revolution and the war, we have many
[00:09:47] repercussions. So any law that is enacted must
[00:09:50] address this matter. We are not starting from scratch. We are not
[00:09:54] saying that those who were born now should immediately get it.
[00:09:57] I mean, those who were born now should immediately get it. But for example, when
[00:10:01] you want to put such a law, you need to address the fears of society. I will
[00:10:04] give you some of the fears, right?
[00:10:07] One of the fears is that you don't have accurate statistics
[00:10:11] on the number of children born
[00:10:14] to Syrian women and from what year. I mean, you want to go back to what
[00:10:18] year? You want to go back to 1950 or 40
[00:10:21] or 20 or from what year? So in this case, you have millions.
[00:10:25] And this is one. I did topic,
[00:10:29] that imagine in all countries of the world, I haven't seen anyone
[00:10:33] who did research on Syrians,
[00:10:36] Syrian women married to non-Syrians and have children, except
[00:10:39] in Turkey. The Turkish Statistical Institute, called TÜİK, did
[00:10:42] a study published in 2025. The number of Syrian
[00:10:46] women married officially to Turks
[00:10:50] is approximately between 55 and 60,000
[00:10:53] women.
[00:10:55] The same Turkish Statistical Institute said that the estimated
[00:10:59] number of children born per family is approximately four children. So you are
[00:11:03] talking about approximately 200,000
[00:11:06] children who are Turkish, but their mother is Syrian. They don't have Syrian
[00:11:09] citizenship. So these, if they have Turkish
[00:11:12] citizenship, they have Turkish citizenship. But these are eligible to
[00:11:16] Syrian
[00:11:20] law is approved. And these, in one way or
[00:11:22] another, are living in Turkey, a stable environment.
[00:11:30] Children are getting an environment, a family, living within
[00:11:34] a family. So there is no fear. I mean, I see that
[00:11:37] according
[00:11:40] to this statistic, if we build on it, there is no fear of granting
[00:11:43] them citizenship. There is no fear of demographic change, nor is there fear
[00:11:47] that they will be an obstacle or a security fear or a security threat to these
[00:11:50] children. So we should not be in our fears like Europe
[00:11:54] fears Muslims, that if they are given many citizenships, there will be something called
[00:11:59] tension of fears. But
[00:12:03] I am talking about when there is official
[00:12:06] statistics, people will no longer be afraid. But there
[00:12:11] statistics. If there were accurate statistics, the problem, I will tell you
[00:12:15] something, you have militias that came to Syria
[00:12:18] to fight. Zainabiyoun, Fatimiyoun,
[00:12:21] PKK came and married
[00:12:24] in Syria. Are you, Dr.
[00:12:28] Osama, also in favor of granting them citizenship?
[00:12:31] Their children, yes. I mean, let's reverse it. If a
[00:12:35] female fighter came, right, and a Syrian
[00:12:39] citizen married her, would the child be granted citizenship or not?
[00:12:42] Let's just reverse it. I, I
[00:12:45] will repeat, when you have clear statistics on this matter,
[00:12:49] when you deal with this matter in a specific context,
[00:12:52] it is different from when you enact a general law and proceed. This is what I mean by what I am saying.
[00:12:55] Therefore, there are concerns that there are no clear statistics
[00:12:59] on this matter. There is a response to, I mean, to
[00:13:02] Professor Osama's proposal. Of course, we respect any point
[00:13:05] of view so that we don't, I mean, when we speak, we are not misunderstood.
[00:13:09] Dr. Osama tells you no, there are no
[00:13:13] security fears, and there are no societal calculations,
[00:13:16] nor economic ones. And the matter is, I mean, very easy, according to him. Well, when we talk about
[00:13:20] a geographical area that is the
[00:13:24] scene of the events now. The events are happening in Syria.
[00:13:28] The number of those entering this area
[00:13:30] of non-Syrian men is
[00:13:34] generally more than women. You are talking about a small case
[00:13:37] when a Syrian husband
[00:13:41] the militias. We didn't see, we didn't see female militias entering
[00:13:44] Syria. I mean, we didn't
[00:13:48] be measured by the majority
[00:13:51] case. When the militias came to areas
[00:13:55] loyal to the regime and marriage occurred between them, then we have a very large
[00:13:58] number here. So this is the idea that
[00:14:01] we are saying,
[00:14:03] and even the idea that you mentioned.
[00:14:10] We all agree on the idea that a woman
[00:14:13] has the right to grant citizenship
[00:14:16] to her children.
[00:14:19] Mayssa, Dr., you contradicted me on this idea. You said no, you don't
[00:14:22] agree.
[00:14:25] You said no, it's not true. We agree in principle. Everyone agrees. I'm just asking, I'm
[00:14:28] saying, do we agree? Yes, yes, we agree in
[00:14:32] principle. It seems there is no disagreement
[00:14:36] over it. Yes, may I, Mr. Muhammad? Go ahead, Doctor.
[00:14:39] Thank you, because it is very important. First of all, allow me to respond to Mr.
[00:14:43] First, it is a revolution, but it equals a thousand revolutions, but in the national
[00:14:47] and humanitarian terminology, but in scientific terminology, as
[00:14:50] sister Mayssa mentioned, war or war in English is armed
[00:14:54] conflict or
[00:15:37] a humanitarian and constitutional entitlement, not from me and not a luxury.
[00:15:41] This means, what does it mean? Entitlement means
[00:15:44] a duty. But we are mentioning the reasons, the timing,
[00:15:47] the geography,
[00:15:49] even when he mentioned that, well, the woman, in an attempt to balance between women
[00:15:53] and men, as he said, as the brother, the member of the People's Assembly, said, well,
[00:15:57] we need to create data, we don't have data, and I mentioned it before, we have clear
[00:16:00] data, we have real, accurate files to see
[00:16:03] who entered more. Do you really think in community security and humanitarian
[00:16:09] peace that you secure your children?
[00:16:12] I mean, not just give them, I mean, not just, of course, children are given, there is a solution. We haven't
[00:16:16] gotten into the solutions yet or the vision of the solution. Of course, we are
[00:16:20] talking about it being proposed by the brother as full naturalization.
[00:16:24] No state has ever granted automatic naturalization
[00:16:27] like this after such a stage, after 15
[00:16:31] years of, you know, what happened from all
[00:16:34] aspects, even in all countries. You are saying there is no
[00:16:38] granting of citizenship or I mean, granting of citizenship without verification
[00:16:42] and without scrutiny and without? I told you Canada
[00:16:45] and America. I, I got citizenship, excuse me, I got
[00:16:48] clearance. I even used to reside in another country. I have residency
[00:16:51] in America. I
[00:16:52] underwent
[00:16:57] and your parents are not American. You got, you were granted citizenship.
[00:17:00] It is natural for there to be security scrutiny.
[00:17:04] But we are talking about that if
[00:17:08] I, I let me say two important points
[00:17:10] for the professor.
[00:17:14] the ground. There are people, as he said, there are militias. We don't know how many
[00:17:18] people are involved in stories. There are fake contracts.
[00:17:22] I mean, this is big data that you need to balance
[00:17:25] and verify, Professor Osama. Professor Osama, you,
[00:17:28] Professor Osama, look at the national. Look at the national
[00:17:32] security of the country. Don't look at one issue. Yes, we say why not
[00:17:36] when there is no national threat? Yes, welcome.
[00:17:39] When there is a large number and there is a threat
[00:17:43] to a certain nationality, I mean, it's not reasonable, for example,
[00:17:46] as I mentioned, a militia
[00:17:49] leader who is present. Go ahead.
[00:17:52] And this wife herself, the wife herself, how can she be the wife of a militia
[00:17:56] leader? So she should go to transitional justice law,
[00:17:59] and we should not prevent her and make
[00:18:03] bones here and there. I mean, the issue of looking at national security, excuse me,
[00:18:06] even national security in all countries of the world looks
[00:18:10] at its security. National security is looked at regardless.
[00:18:13] Go ahead.
[00:18:16] It is measured against Germany or against Turkey. Yes.
[00:18:20] This is all in the matter of granting citizenship, granting citizenship.
[00:18:23] As for the matter of granting the right of citizenship to the newborn,
[00:18:27] it is different. We in Syria are not in an ideal situation. We still
[00:18:31] have a segment of people who are still at large. The state has not
[00:18:34] arrested them. There are still hundreds
[00:18:37] of wanted people, thousands of them, and their children are present, and their wives
[00:18:40] are present. They have not harmed national security in any way.
[00:18:43] I mean, if there are no accurate
[00:18:47] statistics, how can we?
[00:18:50] Muslim, just let me give the right.
[00:18:53] I will go ahead of you, Professor Muslim. Professor Muslim, I will go ahead of you even
[00:18:57] in the position, if you want. I am in favor when the situation in
[00:19:00] Syria stabilizes, that even Syrian women, I mean, if a Syrian
[00:19:03] woman is married to a non-Syrian,
[00:19:06] person, I mean, they call it the right
[00:19:10] to citizenship after residence or acquired citizenship. I am in favor
[00:19:13] that if the Syrian woman is married to a non-Syrian man
[00:19:17] and resided in Syria
[00:19:20] for a certain period and his security file after security checks was
[00:19:24] excellent, I am even in favor of granting him citizenship, like all countries
[00:19:27] in the world. I am in favor that if even residence without marriage is
[00:19:31] not present in the old law itself, it is present. Yes, even
[00:19:34] without marriage, residence itself should also be, but
[00:19:38] when? The truth is, I will say something. I mean, since I am also the director
[00:19:42] of a women's organization, what I have seen is that now, in Syria's
[00:19:45] current situation, Syrian women are not forced in camps,
[00:19:49] for example, to marry someone now, now in this situation, after
[00:19:52] liberation, they are not forced in certain circumstances to marry someone whose identity is unknown.
[00:19:56] Uh, so-and-so's father or so-and-so's father, they are not forced, even
[00:19:59] in other areas, to marry someone who came from outside. They are not
[00:20:03] forced to accept marriage conditions that they used to accept before.
[00:20:07] What I am saying is that now, when there is
[00:20:10] poverty, there is poverty in this story.
[00:20:13] It is possible.
[00:20:15] Kinda, Professor Kinda, we are talking about previous
[00:20:19] contexts. Previous contexts,
[00:20:23] exactly. In previous contexts, during the revolution,
[00:20:26] women were forced to go through
[00:20:30] the experience of marriage. Some women, of course, some
[00:20:33] women, these matters were not confirmed. These marriages were not confirmed, or
[00:20:37] the children were not confirmed. They don't have birth certificates. Some children
[00:20:40] in the camps don't have rights, no birth certificates, no
[00:20:44] education rights, etc. What I am saying is that if such
[00:20:47] a law exists, this law must be presented
[00:20:51] like this, bluntly. There must be
[00:20:54] contexts, special cases to be addressed because we are in an
[00:20:57] exceptional situation. So if we take all cases within
[00:21:01] a specific context and address each case individually, specific
[00:21:04] contexts, I mean, people in camps, people who
[00:21:07] came from outside, for example,
[00:21:09] from during
[00:21:13] the Syrian revolution, many people came from outside and got married. So we must
[00:21:17] address. I want to ask if someone from the Zionist
[00:21:21] entity, a Syrian woman married
[00:21:26] the Zionist entity, how do we act in this regard too?
[00:21:30] Dr. Osama, I don't want to answer for him. I don't want to answer for him. He will answer.
[00:21:33] Go ahead. The child is not to blame for that
[00:21:37] at all. He has an entitlement, whether his father
[00:21:40] was a Zionist, whether the Syrian regime.
[00:21:44] All of Syria and national security, I mean, national security considerations, Dr.
[00:21:47] Osama,
[00:21:54] these national security considerations, we throw them aside. We throw them in the mud.
[00:21:58] I mean, what do we do? This is our Syrian son. This
[00:22:01] is our son, whether his father is a Zionist or
[00:22:04] an Israeli or Bashari or whoever, this
[00:22:07] is our son. We adopt him, and we take care
[00:22:11] of him. There is a solution, there is a simple solution. He is
[00:22:15] two or three years old.
[00:22:18] When he grows up,
[00:22:21] the issue of national security, of course, there are entities that determine this, and we,
[00:22:24] as a national security apparatus, are supposed to be able to assess
[00:22:28] the situation. So we must also discuss this, Dr.
[00:22:32] We are academics and community activists,
[00:22:35] and we also have our opinion and we express it. Of course,
[00:22:38] we respect, we respect your opinion. The time of the episode is almost
[00:22:41] over. I will divide the time equally among the guests. I will start with Dr.
[00:22:45] Kinda. Go ahead. Thank you.
[00:22:48] issue has solutions, three solutions actually. I mean, this
[00:22:52] could be after study, of course, by the concerned authorities, the People's Assembly
[00:22:55] here. But I am speaking theoretically, how it could be
[00:22:58] or from the gist of other experiences. There is something called,
[00:23:02] I mean, no one is discussing this now. The child will certainly be deprived, no matter
[00:23:06] who his father is, even children in Al-Hol camp, even anyone. They
[00:23:09] have the right to take and guarantee all the child's
[00:23:13] living and humanitarian rights, health and education, even
[00:23:16] with a residency permit. I said it.
[00:23:24] I mean, case by case. This is an outcome that can be, as the ministry mentioned, within
[00:23:28] frameworks and with security approvals. That means we are back to each case
[00:23:32] being studied individually. I mean, every naturalization file
[00:23:35] for children born needs to be studied and there will be security approvals
[00:23:38] and stories. Beautiful. Even this, I agree with this. But we mean, even
[00:23:42] at this stage, and we don't know how many children there are, as everyone is saying,
[00:23:46] how much do we have the luxury of covering these studies
[00:23:50] and these, I mean, all the conditions?
[00:23:54] I mean, even case by case, we need to ensure transparency, ensure no one
[00:23:58] pays money to get it. We also need to ensure
[00:24:01] that when a security decision is issued, it might be unfair, for example.
[00:24:05] Right? We need an appeal through the judiciary. This child
[00:24:09] and his parents need to appeal through the judiciary. Do we have an independent judiciary?
[00:24:12] Have we finished building an independent judiciary? And build, for example,
[00:24:15] let's enter a series of, okay, but just for the sake of time,
[00:24:19] Dr. K. Quickly, I naturally
[00:24:23] support giving, with the Syrian mother giving her children citizenship.
[00:24:29] discussion more and to be discussed at higher levels,
[00:24:33] more at the popular level, to address people's fears and also to address every
[00:24:36] problem in its context. Previous problems, of course. Dr. Osama.
[00:24:40] Yes. I correct a statement. The issue
[00:24:44] of the camps, that the purest
[00:24:48] the camps. So we
[00:25:16] describe the reality. We say children.
[00:25:20] Born to non-Syrian fathers,
[00:25:23] whether they are wanted by security or not wanted
[00:25:26] by security. This is a description of the reality. We don't mention the camps.
[00:25:30] The camps have the purest women. No one mentioned
[00:25:33] them, Professor Jamil. Dr. Abd
[00:25:36] Allah forgive you. The broad
[00:25:41] Syrian women, for they are our sisters
[00:25:44] and our daughters and our mothers.
[00:25:46] And we exert all our efforts to preserve their dignity
[00:25:50] and help them with everything that improves
[00:25:54] their lives. But there must be
[00:25:58] controls. The security of our country is the origin. We will not
[00:26:02] accept. Loyalty to our mothers, sisters, and wives
[00:26:05] of martyrs, that citizenship be granted and a militia
[00:26:09] leader be rewarded, rewarded by granting citizenship to his children.
[00:26:13] We do not accept planting mines in Syria,
[00:26:16] which we want. Regarding women, regarding women in
[00:26:20] camps, camps, we mean that there was
[00:26:23] marriage, but unfortunately, due to the lack of child
[00:26:26] registration, a problem occurred, so there are
[00:26:30] children who do not have birth
[00:26:33] adequate education. This is it. Okay, thank you for the clarification. Thank you to our esteemed guests.
[00:26:37] We have exceeded the time, unfortunately. We have exceeded the time. Dr. Kinda, I thank
[00:26:41] you very much. Dr. Osama, Dr. Abdullah, and Professor. My apologies, of course,
[00:26:44] to everyone. Thank you all. And thanks are extended, of course, to you,
[00:26:48] dear viewers. Tomorrow or next week, God willing, there will be a new episode at
[00:26:51] 9 PM. Goodbye.
[00:26:52] اللقاء.
[00:27:53] In a pivotal historical moment,
[00:27:57] Damascus turned the page on a long absence
[00:28:00] and regained its voice and its free
[00:28:04] decision.
[00:28:08] The responsibility of the media is no longer limited to reporting
[00:28:11] news only, but has become linked
[00:28:13] to verifying information
[00:28:16] and presenting it with clarity,
[00:28:19] balance, and honesty.
[00:28:20] And we assure
[00:28:25] you that Syria's transition today from
[00:28:27] the presidency seat to the seat of an active member will witness
[00:28:31] a doubled Syrian presence,
[00:28:34] out of our belief in joint action in
[00:30:12] our Arab environment. Good evening, dear viewers, and welcome to a new episode
[00:30:16] of Syria Tonight. Good evening, Salam. Good
[00:30:19] evening to you, Abdul Qader. Good evening to our viewers. And we start with
[00:30:23] our files for
[00:30:24] this evening.
[00:30:28] We start Syria Tonight from Damascus and the continuation of the Syrian-Chinese
[00:30:31] Economic Forum for the second
[00:30:33] day.
[00:30:43] al-Hasakah, and the return of 440 displaced
[00:30:46] families to their original areas within
[00:30:50] a series of return convoys after preparing the area
[00:30:53] to receive them.
[00:31:01] And in rural Damascus. The inauguration of the rubble recycling unit in
[00:31:06] Zabadani.
[00:31:14] And in the fourth