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[00:00:00] Syria by the United States. What are
[00:00:02] students to return to the most important reasons,
[00:00:08] Iran as well. On this on the ground in your opinion? In my opinion, the matter is related to the policy
[00:00:10] basis, this file of the United States of America towards the political transition in Syria. I mean, if
[00:00:14] elements of we observe the relationship between America and Syria, there is a gradual lifting of
[00:00:18] sanctions. Even the sanctions, or what remained of the
[00:00:21] economic sanctions, have been removed. But there are still many
[00:00:25] restrictions imposed on communications,
[00:00:28] software, and so on. So the United States
[00:00:31] of America is pursuing
[00:00:33] and protecting energy lines, a policy of conditional gradualism or conditional
[00:00:36] relations with Syria. It does not want to give Syria
[00:00:39] everything at once.
[00:00:41] that these Therefore, every two months, we find that some of these
[00:00:45] measures are lifted. Certainly, this
[00:00:47] the people and caused
[00:00:47] Syria. I mean, there are many is perhaps related to administrative procedures in the United
[00:00:51] States of America. But this gradualism, in my opinion, is
[00:00:54] a conditional issue, or
[00:00:58] especially since... Has this not conditional relations with Syria. The issue of arming
[00:01:05] the word itself, this term, Dr. Zaki, do you really
[00:01:07] procedures and many
[00:01:12] and not perceives, but has information about this still wants more of think or agree with Dr. Samir or disagree with him that what the United States is doing by lifting sanctions, lifting the classification,
[00:01:15] and today lifting the issue related to
[00:01:18] arming Syria, or preventing
[00:01:21] arming from Syria, all of this is conditional on the
[00:01:25] United States, and the proof of this is
[00:01:28] the post he wrote, Joe Wilson, on the X platform?
[00:01:32] Well,
[00:01:36] will converting this Professor Ruba, I want to tell you that this is
[00:01:38] elements that a very important step,
[00:01:40] are still controlling very important,
[00:01:43] to do so, be beneficial especially at this time,
[00:01:45] Likewise, there are developments because if we know what is happening behind the scenes
[00:01:49] in Washington, we know that the Syrian
[00:01:52] camp won in Washington
[00:01:56] by lifting sanctions, lifting classifications, against the camp and the Israeli lobby, I mean, is it possible
[00:01:57] States of America and of Netanyahu's friends. Netanyahu, who said
[00:02:00] with his own mouth that he wants chaos in Syria, he wants
[00:02:04] a divided
[00:02:07] there is a problem in Syria to preserve the security that he considers the security
[00:02:10] of Israel. So, of course, Netanyahu's
[00:02:14] in Syria or for Syrians in relations with Congress, whether it was the House of Representatives, the Senate, the White
[00:02:18] House, the Pentagon, the State Department,
[00:02:22] about the issue of foreign
[00:02:22] from Syria currently, or there from beginning to end, he's a man who's been building relationships for 30 years
[00:02:25] based on that. Well, the victory, the victory of the Syrian
[00:02:28] camp and
[00:02:38] on the ground, do you think that, as Dr. Samir said, it is conditional
[00:02:42] that can be emulated so that all these lifting
[00:02:45] of restrictions and all these
[00:02:49] I mean, based on this measures that have been
[00:02:51] taken are applied? Yes,
[00:02:55] in political,
[00:02:56] to benefit from the lifting military, Turkey is proposing and geopolitical creating a terrorism-free
[00:02:59] matters, we are talking
[00:03:02] And the common interest for Syria with about security in the Middle East. I mean, the most
[00:03:06] is linked, in my opinion, to what is happening important region where wars have not stopped since World War II is the Middle
[00:03:10] East, and of course, because
[00:03:13] of Israel. So now there
[00:03:16] is a strategic shift in the United
[00:03:19] States' military and political policy towards
[00:03:22] the Middle East, including not relying entirely
[00:03:26] on Israel. Two or three years
[00:03:30] ago, the United States' policy
[00:03:35] with this file are linked to the developments that are taking place in was in all Syrian areas, don't in the Middle East, any arms deal, anything had to be approved by Israel.
[00:03:39] This was inevitable, of course,
[00:03:41] because of the unlimited
[00:03:44] and unconditional support for Israel
[00:03:48] and Netanyahu in the House of Representatives, the Senate,
[00:03:51] and successive American administrations, regardless of
[00:03:54] who the president is and who
[00:03:56] to raise this the government is in the White House, they had tremendous support. So now you
[00:04:00] see that the ban on arms exports has been lifted. Now, it's not
[00:04:05] is not separate from the Syrian position just arms exports. I mean, Syria wants to buy weapons. You know that
[00:04:08] America's relations with countries also include military grants.
[00:04:12] So, the importance of Syria
[00:04:15] now for the Middle East
[00:04:18] and for global security, because don't forget
[00:04:23] Al-Babida, head of the Syria office in what happened to energy
[00:04:25] always depend on in the last six months. The Americans realized that maritime
[00:04:29] straits
[00:04:35] judiciary at
[00:04:39] as well as fighting terrorism, in those countries. But this does not America and Europe cannot accept Russian military,
[00:04:42] naval, and air bases.
[00:04:46] We were talking about this topic, especially about the Hmeimim base
[00:04:49] part of this and the Syrian the goal of a terrorism-free zone. Foreign Minister's visit
[00:04:53] to Hmeimim. In any case, Dr.
[00:04:58] for creating a terrorism-free offers any arms deal, Samir,
[00:04:58] a country that owns the largest army in Joe Wilson was one of the most prominent defenders of Syria.
[00:05:00] deal, even the end user And his current criticism of the restrictions that are still
[00:05:06] And I see that this scrutiny from imposed on goods on the issue of industry. In your opinion,
[00:05:08] is true, but only is this within American bureaucracy or, as you said, within the conditions? Or
[00:05:11] how do you interpret the fact that
[00:05:15] the real impact
[00:05:18] is not
[00:05:20] yet clear?
[00:05:24] As I mentioned at the beginning, the United States of America does not want
[00:05:28] to give you everything at once. It wants to give you things
[00:05:31] gradually in exchange for obtaining or achieving
[00:05:35] the interests of the United States of America in Syria
[00:05:37] and even in the region. So what are these interests?
[00:05:41] What are these interests
[00:05:42] that you are looking for?
[00:05:46] The issue of Syria's joining the international coalition, the issue of fighting
[00:05:49] ISIS, the issue of Iranian influence and fighting
[00:05:52] Iranian influence, the issue of relations with Russia,
[00:05:55] and even the political developments inside
[00:06:00] issues that concern the United States of America in
[00:06:04] Syria. So if it gave you everything at once... But don't you think that
[00:06:07] Syria has almost implemented 70% of all these
[00:06:10] items
[00:06:12] that you mentioned?
[00:06:16] Yes, it has implemented them, and the United States of America
[00:06:21] these steps. I mean, if we go back to the past a little,
[00:06:25] the issue of the relationship with the SDF. I mean, if the United States of America
[00:06:28] gave the Syrian government everything, perhaps the
[00:06:31] solution in Syria would have been different, and the solution to the SDF issue, as
[00:06:35] I mentioned, the issue of fighting terrorism. The United States of America
[00:06:39] wants to have influence in Syria. I mean,
[00:06:42] the issue of the Foreign Minister's visit or the relationship with Russia is an issue
[00:06:46] that the United States of America is certainly aware of.
[00:06:49] But will the United States of America accept
[00:06:53] Syria's return to the alliance with Russia?
[00:06:57] in the region. These developments mean that the United States
[00:07:01] of America wants to have leverage over all countries
[00:07:05] in the region, not just over Syria. I mean, let's look at the relationship between the United
[00:07:10] Saudi Arabia, which is one of its closest allies, as well as with
[00:07:13] Turkey, as well as with Egypt, which receives
[00:07:16] annual military aid from America.
[00:07:19] All of this is always conditional, and this
[00:07:23] perhaps raises concerns
[00:07:27] the future that, yes, sanctions have been lifted.
[00:07:30] Currently, there is no military deal because there is no funding
[00:07:35] is no talk of direct military aid from the United States.
[00:07:39] But America, in general, in its policy in the Middle East...
[00:07:50] on Egypt, which has restricted Egypt since
[00:07:53] 1979, the Camp David Accords, and Egypt's
[00:07:56] receipt of aid, and even now. Yes,
[00:08:01] analysis or this statement you are making,
[00:08:04] the issue of the impact on the ground of lifting sanctions and lifting
[00:08:08] the classification may be delayed for
[00:08:09] years.
[00:08:13] Dr. Samir, it needs time, and the matter
[00:08:18] in the region. I mean, the United States of America does not have
[00:08:22] complete trust currently in the Syrian government. Therefore,
[00:08:26] it is moving with them step by step, let's call it, even
[00:08:29] if it is different from the previous path that was with the Assad regime. They give
[00:08:33] something and wait for the results. But lifting
[00:08:36] sanctions completely, or lifting restrictions, I mean,
[00:08:39] most sanctions have probably been lifted, but the restrictions imposed,
[00:08:43] in my opinion, need time, and they
[00:08:46] the region. Well, Dr. Zaki, to what extent is what
[00:08:50] happened today and the issue of
[00:08:54] lifting the arms ban
[00:08:58] on Syria, in addition to all the previous American
[00:09:01] measures to lift sanctions and remove classifications from Syria,
[00:09:05] to what extent is it really related to what is happening in the region in general,
[00:09:09] and are there things required from the Syrian government now
[00:09:12] to provide so that the actual
[00:09:16] implementation can begin? Mr. Samir talked
[00:09:20] about the term "step for step" which was followed previously.
[00:09:24] I don't want to compare or even mention that era. But do you really
[00:09:28] think there is something similar, step for step? Do you agree
[00:09:31] with what Dr. Samir said?
[00:09:35] No, relations between countries
[00:09:38] common interests. I mean, America doesn't
[00:09:41] just go and provide aid to other countries around the world
[00:09:44] without having interests
[00:09:48] prevent it from being something very important.
[00:09:51] What happened is very important, and in my opinion,
[00:09:54] it is
[00:09:57] really important for Syria and for America, of course. There are common
[00:10:00] interests, and the duty of the Syrian government and
[00:10:03] of Syrians is to find common interests with a great
[00:10:07] power,
[00:10:11] the world. This is very important for us, and let's not forget
[00:10:15] what the Russians did to us
[00:10:19] in Syria. So this is the second pole, the Russian-Chinese.
[00:10:22] If we have interests with America or Syria has interests
[00:10:26] with America, then we cooperate on matters where
[00:10:30] there is common interest. There is nothing wrong with that. But
[00:10:33] we also need to celebrate a very important
[00:10:37] step that has been taken against the policies
[00:10:39] of the Zionist lobby in Washington,
[00:10:42] which tried as much as possible not to remove
[00:10:45] Syria from the list of state sponsors
[00:10:48] of terrorism. We have been working
[00:10:52] in Washington for years, and we didn't expect even the economic
[00:10:55] sanctions to be lifted so quickly
[00:10:58] within a short period of time, because there is strong opposition
[00:11:02] even from members of the current
[00:11:05] American government. So there is pressure,
[00:11:09] there is tug of war within the American government when it comes
[00:11:13] to Syria, because there is strong Israeli opposition
[00:11:16] to any concessions granted to Syria. And
[00:11:20] this means the issue of weapons. You know
[00:11:23] that the commander of the Central Command visited Syria several times and has good relations
[00:11:26] with the President and with His Excellency Minister
[00:11:30] Al-Shaibani. So these personal relationships always
[00:11:33] lead to important relationships between countries, as well as
[00:11:37] cooperation. Cooperation does not come suddenly. I mean, it's not like
[00:11:41] America will send weapons to Syria
[00:11:44] overnight. But one of the obstacles has been removed. There were obstacles
[00:11:47] to cooperation.
[00:11:50] Syrian
[00:11:53] forces were previously provided with military aid to the SDF, and now
[00:11:56] that the merger has taken place and the SDF has ceased to exist, to what extent
[00:12:01] aid to the Syrian state, and there
[00:12:05] is a decision
[00:12:08] for military cooperation between the United States and Syria and arming
[00:12:11] Syria? And what is Israel's position on this matter,
[00:12:15] in your opinion? Israel's position is very
[00:12:18] opposed. Israel's position
[00:12:21] for it to stand in the way of converting this aid?
[00:12:26] Now we have taken an important step
[00:12:29] that cannot be reversed,
[00:12:31] because the ban has been lifted. So now
[00:12:35] the second thing that Israel wants to work on is that, as
[00:12:38] your esteemed guest mentioned, America
[00:12:41] should not give weapons to Syria now. For
[00:12:45] example, among the weapons for Syria, they have many
[00:12:48] stored weapons in Iraq, and they said that they want
[00:12:52] to withdraw from Iraq and gave a date and all that. These
[00:12:55] weapons could be given to the Syrian army
[00:12:59] instead of shipping them back to America,
[00:13:02] for example. Then,
[00:13:06] in the future, as relations develop, there
[00:13:09] could be arms deals for Syria in the form of aid,
[00:13:13] just as they used to give two billion dollars in aid
[00:13:16] to Egypt, as the guest said, from 1979 until now.
[00:13:19] I mean, imagine more than 80 billion dollars in the last
[00:13:23] 40 years went to the Egyptian army.
[00:13:26] All of this was weapons that the Egyptian
[00:13:30] people did not have to pay for. Of course, there are common interests
[00:13:33] between... You know that this matter was conditional.
[00:13:37] This is correct, it was conditional. I always said that
[00:13:41] there are common interests. The American government certainly, countries
[00:13:44] are not charitable organizations. This is agreed upon. Exactly.
[00:13:48] Exactly. We need, it is our job
[00:13:51] to find common Syrian-American interests, and I believe
[00:13:55] the common interests are very great. I mean, now
[00:13:58] energy, energy and security always go
[00:14:01] together. Now, with the maritime straits,
[00:14:04] everyone's minds have opened up to the possibility
[00:14:08] of a land corridor from the Gulf states
[00:14:11] to Syria, reaching the Mediterranean
[00:14:15] and Europe without passing through Bab al-Mandab
[00:14:18] and without passing through alternatives.
[00:14:21] Yes, yes. Well, since you mentioned interests, I will go to Dr.
[00:14:24] Samir. Dr. Samir, specifically on the issue of interests,
[00:14:28] I mean, in the official decision that came to lift
[00:14:31] the two restrictions related to the arms embargo
[00:14:34] on Syria, there was talk that lifting
[00:14:38] these two restrictions is necessary for the national security
[00:14:42] interests of the United States.
[00:14:45] What is beneficial for the United States in lifting
[00:14:49] these two restrictions? What is the United States thinking
[00:14:51] about?
[00:14:55] As Dr. Zaki mentioned, there are American
[00:14:58] interests in the region related to energy pipelines,
[00:15:04] as well as curbing Iranian influence. So lifting
[00:15:08] the ban currently opens the door
[00:15:11] for providing perhaps some aid, but there will be conditions
[00:15:15] on the military establishment. I mean, when the United States of America
[00:15:20] it begins by scrutinizing the funding and the source
[00:15:23] of funding for this of this weapon.
[00:15:27] So this requires
[00:15:30] the United States of America.
[00:15:31] Specific
[00:15:35] armament for specific
[00:15:38] purposes, for specific goals that serve the interests of the United States
[00:15:41] in Syria.
[00:15:45] Yes, and first and foremost, if there is an implementation of
[00:15:49] energy projects, converting energy projects to or through
[00:15:52] Syria, these weapons will be to protect these
[00:15:56] lines, as well as to fight ISIS.
[00:16:00] Yes, I mean, only for protection and fighting ISIS,
[00:16:03] the matter will not be beyond
[00:16:07] borders. Fighting ISIS
[00:16:11] as well as curbing Iranian influence. But the United
[00:16:14] States of America, and here we touch on the relationship with Israel,
[00:16:18] will not provide any weapons to Syria that might pose
[00:16:21] even a 1% threat to Israel. I mean, let's look at arms
[00:16:25] deals between the United States of America and Turkey
[00:16:27] and the F-35 deal even with Saudi Arabia, its closest ally.
[00:16:31] There are very wide conditions set by the United States
[00:16:35] of America, and even, I mean, it's not just the president, there are institutions.
[00:16:39] American, I mean, any arms deal or even military
[00:16:42] aid goes through long
[00:16:45] bureaucratic approvals in the United States. Therefore,
[00:16:49] talking about military support or arms deals is
[00:16:52] premature, but what speeds up this matter is if
[00:16:56] the United States of America needs, as I said,
[00:16:59] for the Syrian army or the Syrian military establishment
[00:17:03] to protect energy routes or energy lines, or if
[00:17:07] there is a direct threat from
[00:17:17] ISIS. What are the measures that the Syrian state should take, according
[00:17:21] to your speech and the points you and my dear guest, Mr. Zaki,
[00:17:25] mentioned, regarding Syria, the Syrian government,
[00:17:28] benefiting from what the United States is doing
[00:17:34] and the measure that also lifted
[00:17:37] the issue of weapons or the ban on selling
[00:17:41] weapons to it? In one minute, I mean, in addition
[00:17:44] to what is related to the political
[00:17:47] and political transition, Syria needs to
[00:17:51] complete the building of the military establishment and remove
[00:17:54] many of the doubts that some countries raise
[00:18:00] fighters who are present in the Syrian army, as well as
[00:18:03] the military hierarchy and the hierarchy of the Syrian military establishment.
[00:18:14] Here, the Syrian administration and Syria can obtain
[00:18:18] some gains, military aid, and economic aid.
[00:18:21] Yes, I will ask you the same question, Dr. Zaki. In your opinion, what are the measures
[00:18:25] and steps that the Syrian state, the Syrian government, should take,
[00:18:29] as Dr. Samir mentioned, and in addition to what he said,
[00:18:34] of this ban on sales?
[00:18:39] the United States of America is first
[00:18:42] to block the road to Iran from Iran through
[00:18:46] Iraq, Syria, to the Mediterranean. This road is cut.
[00:18:49] Iran has left Syria never to return. The second thing
[00:18:53] is that President Trump said, I don't want to speculate
[00:18:57] or analyze. He said, we believe
[00:18:59] that the Syrian government can play a major
[00:19:03] role in curbing Hezbollah's role in Lebanon. Hezbollah
[00:19:07] did not just leave Syria. It
[00:19:10] forget that. But the President said that we believe
[00:19:14] that it can play a better role than Israel even in
[00:19:17] curbing Hezbollah's role in Lebanon. These are not
[00:19:21] speculations or analyses. This is from the American President.
[00:19:24] So I think it's very important, I mean, you know that America
[00:19:28] has now started a full war because of the disputes with
[00:19:31] Iran. So this matter is very important, and the Syrian
[00:19:35] state and all Syrians as a people are against
[00:19:37] Iran 100% because of what they did in Syria and to Syrians,
[00:19:41] and against Hezbollah because of what they did in Syria and to Syrians. This is a big
[00:19:44] common interest, regardless of Russian bases
[00:19:47] and not giving China the opportunity to enter
[00:19:51] the region through a wide door, and the American
[00:19:54] military, political, and economic presence in the region. Thank
[00:19:58] you very much to both of you, Dr. Zaki
[00:20:01] the Syrian-American Council, who was with us from Arizona, and Dr. Samir Al-Abdallah,
[00:20:04] senior researcher at the Arab Center
[00:20:08] for Contemporary Syria Studies, who was with us from
[00:20:10] Damascus.
[00:20:13] After the break, we will return to discuss Turkey's
[00:20:15] plan to establish a quadrilateral security mechanism
[00:20:19] including Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey to achieve
[00:20:34] I see a plan for the reconstruction of Syria. And the streets are being
[00:20:38] paved and electricity will return 24/7.
[00:20:45] on paper. Syria will return stronger than before, and the economy is
[00:20:49] recovering. For
[00:20:52] schools, a bright future as
[00:20:55] I see you. Very bright. Come see the darkness
[00:20:59] here. Half of the ninth-grade students failed. No, but I
[00:21:02] see a glimmer of hope, and people are planting and resisting
[00:21:05] and laughing. I mean, there is hope. We are the generation
[00:21:08] of change. What change? What are we going to change if there is no electricity
[00:21:12] and water? Wait, wait. I see national reconciliation
[00:21:16] and new understandings with neighboring countries. I see...
[00:21:29] Well, I am Ward, and wait for me in the program
[00:21:33] "Take and Give" on Syria TV. And wait for the second one.
[00:21:49] Syrians spread across
[00:21:51] the earth. They succeeded,
[00:21:54] excelled, and proved their
[00:21:57] existence despite
[00:22:02] the difficulties. Between their success stories and decisions that shape
[00:22:06] their destiny
[00:22:12] in their diaspora. The diaspora, stories
[00:22:16] and decisions that shape the scene discusses its details
[00:22:20] to make the picture complete. The diaspora on Syria TV.
[00:23:10] Turkish Interior Minister Mustafa Ciftci announced
[00:23:13] that his country is considering establishing a quadrilateral security mechanism
[00:23:17] including Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran. This is aimed
[00:23:20] at achieving a terrorism-free zone,
[00:23:23] noting that Ankara already has
[00:23:25] bilateral and trilateral mechanisms with
[00:23:29] countries in the region
[00:23:32] in this regard.
[00:23:36] New moves in the Turkish capital, Ankara, to discuss the establishment
[00:23:40] of a regional security mechanism aimed at
[00:23:45] zone. This was announced by Turkish Interior Minister
[00:23:48] Mustafa Ciftci. He said that the mechanism being
[00:23:51] studied includes Syria, Turkey, Iraq,
[00:23:54] and Iran. The Turkish Minister links the possibility
[00:23:58] of this mechanism's success to the process of integrating the Syrian Democratic Forces
[00:24:02] into Syrian state institutions, which gives the region an opportunity
[00:24:06] to build this joint security model, while at the same
[00:24:09] time expressing concerns about the possibility of elements
[00:24:13] refusing integration moving to Iraq and Iran and seeking
[00:24:16] to gain power, which could pose a threat to
[00:24:29] his Iranian counterpart, Eskandar Momani, who expressed a positive stance during
[00:24:32] their last meeting in Ankara, adding that he will present
[00:24:36] the mechanism to his counterparts in the concerned countries in the coming
[00:24:39] days.
[00:24:41] In parallel with this security proposal, the issue of the nature
[00:24:45] of the relationship that can arise between Damascus
[00:24:48] and Tehran after the fall of the former regime returns to the fore.
[00:24:51] However, rebuilding this relationship
[00:24:55] on Iran's role during the revolution, given the confirmation
[00:24:58] by Foreign Minister Asaad Al-Shaibani during his visit to
[00:25:01] Pakistan that recognizing what Iran committed against
[00:25:05] Syrians represents a fundamental condition for opening a new
[00:25:08] page between the two countries.
[00:25:11] Iranian recognition of what it caused and corrupted in Syria
[00:25:15] may be discussed in the future, and if Pakistan is one of
[00:25:18] the parties, we certainly welcome
[00:25:21] and discuss this topic with Dr. Ahmed Tuma, academic and politician
[00:25:24] from Damascus. Welcome, and Dr. Samir Salha, academic specializing
[00:25:28] in Turkish affairs from Istanbul. Welcome to you too. I will start
[00:25:32] with you, Dr. Ahmed. To what extent can
[00:25:36] Syria be
[00:25:39] proposal made by the Turkish Interior Minister
[00:25:43] concerning the joint coordination mechanism
[00:25:48] zone, and including Iran? I mean, this mechanism,
[00:25:52] undoubtedly,
[00:25:56] my dear sister,
[00:25:58] is facing
[00:26:00] a danger. The national security of Syria
[00:26:04] is threatened, and so are Turkey,
[00:26:07] Iraq, and perhaps
[00:26:12] must be resolved, especially since there are
[00:26:17] the PKK that refuse integration into Syria.
[00:26:20] And there is a strong possibility that if pressure on them increases, they
[00:26:24] may move towards Iraq and Iran, and perhaps
[00:26:28] to Turkey. This poses a threat to the entire
[00:26:31] region. From this perspective, it was
[00:26:34] necessary for Turkey to work with
[00:26:38] its neighbors to find a radical solution to this
[00:26:41] issue. There is no way
[00:26:44] fighters who caused terror among
[00:26:49] unrest and led to the instability of
[00:26:53] the entire region can
[00:26:55] be allowed. All of this must be resolved,
[00:27:00] solved this?
[00:27:11] Does this mean that Turkey still perceives,
[00:27:14] danger? And I return to the same point, a mechanism like this
[00:27:18] that includes Iran, how will Syria be part of such a
[00:27:22] mechanism?
[00:27:25] In what way, by what method? It is certain that many
[00:27:27] of the elements, yes, it is certain that many of the Syrian
[00:27:31] elements in the SDF genuinely desire
[00:27:34] integration, but what hinders these matters
[00:27:38] is the presence of PKK
[00:27:42] the decision and are trying to thwart it. Therefore,
[00:27:46] Syrians, more than others, realize these dangers.
[00:27:49] So if these dangers are combined with Turkish
[00:27:53] dangers, and Iraqi dangers, and Iranian dangers, then
[00:27:57] we can move towards forming
[00:27:59] an alliance that can achieve the desired
[00:28:02] outcome and reassure the region and strive for its stability.
[00:28:05] But as the Foreign Minister mentioned,
[00:28:09] dealing positively with the Iranians
[00:28:13] as long as they have not admitted their guilt and have
[00:28:15] not apologized to the Syrian people. So how can we form such an alliance
[00:28:19] with them? And perhaps, as we found previously,
[00:28:22] they used to host elements that could
[00:28:26] move from Iran towards Iraq and towards Turkey and towards
[00:28:29] Syria to cause unrest and problems. What I want
[00:28:33] to get at is that such dangerous issues must
[00:28:37] be resolved. How can this be resolved? We will talk
[00:28:41] about solutions internally, we will talk about solutions because we
[00:28:45] also want, through forming alliances,
[00:28:48] yes, we want to elaborate on these solutions
[00:28:50] and possibilities.
[00:28:54] I will go to Mr. Samir. Dr. Samir,
[00:28:59] this matter and this mechanism, and says that it has
[00:29:02] similar mechanisms in other countries. To what extent
[00:29:06] can this mechanism be applied on the ground? What is Turkey
[00:29:10] basing it on? And to what extent does it really perceive the danger of the Kurdistan
[00:29:14] Workers' Party in the countries with which it wishes to establish this
[00:29:18] mechanism?
[00:29:20] That's right, that's right. Good evening to everyone. First, about the last
[00:29:23] point, Ruba, if you were asking whether this
[00:29:27] mechanism, if arranged within
[00:29:30] a framework of joint political and security coordination,
[00:29:34] will succeed in dealing
[00:29:38] in a short period of time. In my opinion,
[00:29:41] the matter is not easy. It requires indeed
[00:29:44] security coordination, intelligence coordination, broad
[00:29:48] cooperation, and sincere intentions in dealing
[00:29:52] with this file. Now, how did
[00:29:55] we reach this point? I mean, what prompted the Turkish Interior Minister
[00:29:59] issue
[00:30:01] so directly this time? This is also an important issue.
[00:30:05] because the issue is related to the internal path in Turkey as
[00:30:08] you also follow since
[00:30:11] we discussed in a new way a new
[00:30:14] way of dealing with the file of the Workers' Party with the Kurdish file
[00:30:18] as a whole in Turkey and the latest achievements
[00:30:20] were in August last year under the roof of
[00:30:23] the parliament, a bill was approved, opening
[00:30:27] the way, yes, for the departure of members of these
[00:30:30] groups in the Workers' Party themselves to the security
[00:30:34] agencies and to the Turkish
[00:30:37] the internal level in Syria also in a similar
[00:30:40] movement with the issue of Qassl, and this movement in
[00:30:44] Turkey and Syria, a large part of it is taking place in
[00:30:48] the framework of bilateral coordination also between Ankara and
[00:30:51] Damascus. Now, the Iraqi player is also
[00:30:55] present in one way or another on the line of
[00:30:58] this.