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[00:00:00] responsibilities, especially before.
[00:00:01] Well, after a month or two A little while ago, it was mentioned that
[00:00:04] the responsibility today lies with whom? In the framework of these
[00:00:07] meetings and in the framework of this campaign
[00:00:10] that came out from the local residents
[00:00:14] in several areas in Syria, where does
[00:00:17] the responsibility lie today
[00:00:20] the impact of this step practically and where does the responsibility end with regard this delay to the citizen. to the Ministry of Energy and also the relevant responsible authorities
[00:00:24] with regard to the Price Determination Committee and the Syrian Oil Company in
[00:00:27] the context of this
[00:00:32] insurance costs. The insurance on crisis? Well, in my opinion, at least, the responsibility is the responsibility of the Permanent Price
[00:00:35] Determination Committee, which was impromptu and quick in this matter and did not
[00:00:39] take the matter in its entirety,
[00:00:42] meaning its effects on the Syrian citizen, and then
[00:00:46] the governmental approach in managing the country's resources or
[00:00:49] even in the general administration of the state.
[00:00:52] It seems that even in certain places, the ministries or even
[00:00:56] the institutions are scattered islands within the governmental
[00:00:59] structure. One would assume that they are
[00:01:03] all interconnected and that every decision concerns
[00:01:06] other ministries or departments and other interconnected institutions and departments,
[00:01:10] and at the same time it has its impact and is affected
[00:01:13] by it. In the end, the citizen is
[00:01:17] concerned with this matter. In the event that there was a previous government discourse
[00:01:21] solution, and everything that is happening regarding fateful decisions related to government services or
[00:01:25] the living economy for the citizen,
[00:01:29] there is something called public opinion preparation,
[00:01:32] meaning popular or by explaining the global
[00:01:36] crisis, by explaining
[00:01:38] regarding securing the economic situation and the general budget
[00:01:42] protection perspective, what is required today from of the state, and that the current situation is not shameful
[00:01:46] the number, 8 million a day, 80,000 a day. to mention, or even this thing is not hidden, that the state treasury is empty,
[00:01:48] and this is a natural matter for a country that has emerged from a conflict
[00:01:52] to the global increase in that lasted for a decade and a half. So all this talk
[00:01:55] that you are preparing, any citizen is not
[00:01:59] I don't expect any specific citizen to prefer
[00:02:02] his luxury and personal comfort or even
[00:02:05] the filling
[00:02:08] In every corner of this of his treasury or even the pressure
[00:02:12] of his expenditures to prefer personal needs
[00:02:15] over the issue of standing with his government to move
[00:02:19] to the issue of development and welfare or even stability
[00:02:23] paid. I mean, it is not under the circumstances. However, Mr. Gelo, you
[00:02:26] and Labor to have a role in just mentioned that the price determination
[00:02:28] committee has the greatest responsibility regarding this crisis. But if
[00:02:33] that issues oil derivatives on we want to divide the tasks today regarding the provision of fuel
[00:02:36] and also the increase in prices, who is
[00:02:39] responsible?
[00:02:44] the reasons are far from Now, if you explain my question more precisely, no, the responsibility
[00:02:46] I said, regarding the provision of fuel and also
[00:02:50] the pricing, especially since prices are linked, as
[00:02:55] he worked hard in preparing the response. mentioned, to the global crisis. Today, if we want to talk about securing fuel and setting
[00:03:00] prices related to the rise
[00:03:02] in these fuels and oil derivatives, who
[00:03:06] is the biggest responsible
[00:03:08] in exchange for gaining or the concerned party in that?
[00:03:11] Now, the responsibility for securing fuel lies with the Syrian Oil Company.
[00:03:15] It is the one that has been leading this, and its efforts, I told
[00:03:19] that cannot be compensated. The issue of transparency you, are tremendous in this matter. Even our
[00:03:23] unable to cope with this discussion is not concerned with the individuals of the ministers. Mr. Muhammad Al-Bashir
[00:03:25] is a person, as the colleagues mentioned, and more than what was mentioned
[00:03:29] about his vital activity, even
[00:03:32] his productivity during his work in the transitional
[00:03:35] government and even before, in Al-Qas's previous government.
[00:03:39] So all these issues are not related to individuals. I am talking
[00:03:42] about them. As for our view, in recent times, we have seen that
[00:03:46] the greatest responsibility fell on
[00:03:49] the Minister of Energy. Therefore, I asked you about
[00:03:52] the division of tasks and responsibilities in
[00:03:56] relation to these entities. The responsibilities for securing
[00:04:01] crisis." This fuel lie with the Syrian
[00:04:02] Opacity and Petroleum Company, and it is doing this, and even, as I told
[00:04:05] you, oil tankers, gas, and other fuels are all available
[00:04:08] and all are queued up This matter was
[00:04:12] not present six months ago or even
[00:04:15] more. They used to wait for the tanker
[00:04:19] of the government? What is required of for months. The issue of roads in Syria and tank trucks
[00:04:23] for transporting fuel and crude oil,
[00:04:26] whether from Iraq or even from the Syrian fields in
[00:04:30] the eastern region, is also hindering the roads in Syria, and this
[00:04:33] matter is a slogan or an achievement of
[00:04:37] for anything the government asks of him. But do the Syrian Petroleum Company, which is currently, as I told
[00:04:41] card itself. you, bearing some
[00:04:43] I mean, he doesn't of the courageous decisions it made, which were presented
[00:04:46] in the media as fighting corruption or other tools,
[00:04:49] and this is not concerned with it because there are people
[00:04:53] who made decisions to import
[00:04:55] of Endowments? To discuss this or even to secure fuel for the country, or matter is that they and this is not within the People's Assembly's even to prevent its access to external
[00:04:57] parties this kind, facing attempts that destabilize Syria, or even
[00:05:01] they
[00:05:03] through maintenance
[00:05:06] decisions issued recently. The diesel and the issue of updating and developing
[00:05:09] production lines and supply.
[00:05:12] So it was, as I told you, taken
[00:05:15] as issues that were issued as combating corruption
[00:05:19] recently. As for the issue of pricing, it is the Permanent
[00:05:23] Committee itself that is concerned and bears this responsibility.
[00:05:26] The foundations it adopted are, as I told
[00:05:29] you, the problem is that the foundations are objective, objective
[00:05:33] in a crisis, in rising
[00:05:36] costs of securing oil,
[00:05:39] in shipping costs, in even
[00:05:44] tankers has increased. All these are objective in a global
[00:05:48] rise, in an energy crisis that may be futuristic.
[00:05:51] I mean, currently, these are its beginnings.
[00:05:54] However, on the Syrian level, that is not concerned. The basic
[00:05:58] function of the state is social
[00:06:01] security or government support for certain sectors,
[00:06:05] and it is the government that will be in charge of this point, which I would like to address
[00:06:09] regarding... Well, excuse me, I will get back to you, but let me
[00:06:13] just complete this phrase later. The Minister of
[00:06:16] Energy issued a decision to divide prices into three categories.
[00:06:19] This will also be a problem because we do not have government data
[00:06:22] that determines the categories that
[00:06:26] will be within the price of 115, and those within the price of
[00:06:29] 150, and those within the price of 195. So this is a temporary
[00:06:34] resembles nothing but patting the citizen
[00:06:37] on the shoulder in an economic matter, not a moral
[00:06:40] or emotional matter. It needs to be addressed.
[00:06:43] Well, and this point regarding any global increase
[00:06:46] is that it should not negatively affect the Syrian
[00:06:49] citizen. Mr. Abdul Razzaq, from a consumer
[00:06:55] the concerned and responsible
[00:06:57] authorities, specifically regarding the increase in prices
[00:07:01] and linking this increase in prices
[00:07:05] the market?
[00:07:08] I mean, the truth is, let me in the Parliament session, I actually
[00:07:12] have a comment on
[00:07:15] the Minister's answer, despite the efforts the Minister made in
[00:07:18] preparing the answers. There is no doubt that he took enough time
[00:07:22] to answer. If we observe, or rather, if one observes carefully,
[00:07:25] what the Minister said, it was a kind of tone he used,
[00:07:29] or a hidden threat to the citizen, saying, "Brother, if
[00:07:32] you want us to lower the price and provide the material,
[00:07:36] we must go back to the smart card." And I consider this answer
[00:07:40] or this response to be honestly inappropriate. We
[00:07:43] didn't wait all this time and waited for the change to the new Syria
[00:07:46] to hear such a response, going back to the past. It's either
[00:07:50] you accept the fait accompli or we go back to the past, and this
[00:07:54] is truly hurtful to the citizen. It is assumed
[00:07:57] that there are better solutions than this. First,
[00:08:01] of course, this was a comment. We, the Minister, was tired in his response,
[00:08:04] of course, and
[00:08:08] The other matter is that I, as a citizen, do not have
[00:08:12] the ability to offer the government anything but the physical effort I have.
[00:08:15] The government tells me to work 18 hours for the minimum subsistence level.
[00:08:19] I am willing to live on the minimum subsistence level and I am willing to work day and night
[00:08:23] to feed my children. But to link me to the global
[00:08:27] issue, the issue of the free economy that you imposed on us
[00:08:30] suddenly, you left the citizen in confusion, you left the citizen
[00:08:35] reality. Some opportunists exploited this current reality,
[00:08:39] just as they will exploit the issue of the three types
[00:08:43] of fuel that will happen later, and I believe it will happen,
[00:08:46] and there is no minister who can monitor, or the Ministry of Economy can monitor,
[00:08:50] all establishments, or all sellers, or all stations to prevent fraud.
[00:08:53] There will definitely be some kind of fraud and manipulation. But to link me
[00:08:57] to the outside, to link me to the dollar issue, to link me to the dollarization
[00:09:00] of markets, this issue is unacceptable for the consumer. We, the Syrian
[00:09:04] consumer, are simple consumers. We
[00:09:08] have suffered a lot and worked hard, and you tell me, "Oh, it changed globally, and there is a global
[00:09:13] whole matter does not concern me. I have three children whom I need
[00:09:17] to feed and water, and I am willing to make every possible effort with the government.
[00:09:20] I mean, hand in hand with the government, despite
[00:09:23] our many observations on the way the protests happened. We are talking
[00:09:27] rationally. As a citizen, what do you ask
[00:09:31] the Syrian citizen to offer the government
[00:09:34] to help it make decisions? Give me the guide to follow
[00:09:38] and the plan I can offer, and I am ready. As a citizen, I am speaking,
[00:09:42] of course, on behalf of the Syrian consumer in general across Syria.
[00:09:46] The Syrian citizen is ready
[00:09:50] not burden him beyond his capacity. Do not give me things that I cannot
[00:09:53] implement. And there is a saying, "The dead cannot protect the dead." The Syrian
[00:09:57] citizen is tired, and the government is tired. I cannot blame the government. The government
[00:10:01] has policies that can improve
[00:10:04] matters and secure the citizen's minimum livelihood.
[00:10:08] And this is what we did not find in the Parliament session.
[00:10:12] We did not find it in the opinion of economists. We did not find it in the impromptu
[00:10:18] issue, this type of diesel division, was actually
[00:10:21] an unsatisfactory and ineffective
[00:10:25] solution. Its implementation is very difficult.
[00:10:28] Its implementation is very difficult, and
[00:10:30] there will be consequences if it is implemented.
[00:10:34] Well, Mr. Yarob, regarding prices
[00:10:37] and also the cost of importing gasoline and diesel,
[00:10:40] how much is it in Syria, especially since some people are talking about
[00:10:44] a lack of transparency? Do you think there is transparency regarding
[00:10:48] the import offer and even transportation and securing the exchange
[00:10:51] rate in the context of what happened?
[00:10:55] No one in Syria knows who this contract is with, what
[00:10:58] is the value of this contract, how much
[00:11:02] is the price? I mean, today, the Minister informed us that we have
[00:11:05] debts of 1.2
[00:11:09] billion dollars to the fuel supplier company. This is a debt on the Electricity
[00:11:12] Establishment, meaning the Electricity Establishment which is affiliated
[00:11:16] with its ministry as well. This is a debt on all of us. This is a debt
[00:11:19] on Syria, not a debt on one institution or
[00:11:23] one person. This is not a debt on Mr. Muhammad Al-Bashir. This is a debt on us.
[00:11:27] To whom is this debt? Who has
[00:11:30] this debt on us that we have to pay? We do not
[00:11:33] know who
[00:11:36] supplies the oil derivatives. We do not
[00:11:39] know. This is also one of the problems of lack of transparency,
[00:11:42] because we might wake up at some point to a bigger
[00:11:45] crisis, and we don't know how we will deal with it.
[00:11:49] Uh, I mean, even
[00:11:53] in the figures that the Minister mentioned,
[00:11:56] that every day we have a bill
[00:12:00] of, I think, 825
[00:12:02] 825
[00:12:04] dollars, or in a month, 8 million, sorry, and
[00:12:08] uh, I forgot, I forgot
[00:12:11] The important thing is that this number
[00:12:15] is what we pay. I mean, we are now paying the price
[00:12:19] of electricity and oil derivatives at the global
[00:12:22] price. Uh, I mean, a citizen, and we have a production
[00:12:26] of 12,000 or 11,000 barrels, fluctuating, as
[00:12:30] some said, some days it reaches, or it reached in a previous period,
[00:12:33] 140. Now there are between 100
[00:12:36] and 140,000 barrels, depending on the state of the wells. So this is also
[00:12:39] 14,000 barrels. What is its price? I mean, it is a number that is already
[00:12:42] uh,
[00:12:45] I mean,
[00:12:48] paid as a form of support. The government is
[00:12:52] not uh, the one that pays the price
[00:12:55] of these fuels. This is paid in the market. I mean, today, diesel in Syria is more expensive than
[00:12:59] Lebanon, by the way. It is more expensive than Lebanon, and Lebanon
[00:13:02] is a free market all its life. It is a free market for oil
[00:13:06] derivatives. Uh, but this contract, we
[00:13:10] do not know, not only the value, we do not
[00:13:13] know the mechanisms, we do not know who. I mean, we do not
[00:13:17] know who is supplying these
[00:13:20] derivatives, as if it is a national secret
[00:13:23] or, I don't know, a nuclear secret. I don't know.
[00:13:26] Uh, I mean, there are leaks. I don't want to talk
[00:13:30] about leaks that so-and-so
[00:13:33] is doing this and so-and-so is doing that. I mean, there are two companies
[00:13:36] that are supplying. I mean, supplying
[00:13:39] derivatives. Uh, the other problem,
[00:13:42] it was announced also in the press conference two days ago
[00:13:46] with the General Manager of Syria Oil about the re-operation
[00:13:49] of
[00:13:52] I think they called them electric refineries. I mean,
[00:13:56] what we actually call
[00:13:58] "burners." These are what there is a complaint
[00:14:02] about, an environmental complaint and an economic complaint, and they open the door
[00:14:05] to I mean, to smuggling
[00:14:09] and open the door to producing products that are not
[00:14:13] up to specifications and may be harmful
[00:14:15] to engines.
[00:14:17] It seems they reached solutions, I mean, to re-operate
[00:14:20] the burners, but under state supervision.
[00:14:24] Uh, to return to, I mean,
[00:14:27] the smart card, which was the Syrians' favorite
[00:14:30] joke for a few years, for four or five
[00:14:33] years, or to the coupons that were
[00:14:37] uh, the oppression of Syrians during the eighties
[00:14:40] and nineties. I mean, we are going back
[00:14:44] a lot. As I said, I mean,
[00:14:47] it is not a problem in this specific detail.
[00:14:50] It is not in the price of diesel now or the price of gasoline
[00:14:54] now. The problem is in the way important
[00:14:58] economic files are managed, vital
[00:15:01] files related to people's livelihoods.
[00:15:04] The management of government affairs,
[00:15:08] the management of people's daily lives. This
[00:15:11] is an issue that has its schools, and it is a tried
[00:15:15] and tested issue, and Syria has many experiences
[00:15:17] with types of rule, meaning the mechanism as a whole.
[00:15:21] Well, I will get back to you on this point. Let me
[00:15:25] go to Dr. Bakir. Dr. Bakir, the Ministry addressed
[00:15:28] difficulties or perhaps even obstacles
[00:15:32] related to financial transfers, related to
[00:15:35] currency exchange, and also securing financing.
[00:15:38] How can these obstacles be overcome, in your opinion?
[00:15:41] How can these
[00:15:45] obstacles be resolved? Actually, as the esteemed guests
[00:15:48] mentioned and explained this issue,
[00:15:52] the state should bear
[00:15:55] the largest part of this problem, and the citizen should not bear it.
[00:15:59] Regarding financial transfers, there is a monthly figure
[00:16:02] of approximately 851 million dollars
[00:16:04] that the state bears for
[00:16:08] fuel. Of course, there were, as you know,
[00:16:11] sanctions on Syria, and financial transfers, even now, the
[00:16:14] SWIFT system has not been fully activated
[00:16:18] so that the state
[00:16:21] can sign contracts with international parties,
[00:16:25] with countries, so that Syria can be supplied
[00:16:28] with oil derivatives and fuel. And
[00:16:32] even regarding the activation of SWIFT, it is also related to the fuel
[00:16:35] crisis.
[00:16:39] Yes, because there are, as the Minister
[00:16:42] explained, when contracts
[00:16:46] are established or signed with countries, they fundamentally need
[00:16:50] financial transfers, they need there to be a transfer from the Central
[00:16:53] Bank to these countries. And it was mentioned that
[00:16:57] there are discussions or negotiations with some Gulf countries
[00:17:01] as a state, and not as a private company,
[00:17:04] to supply some oil derivatives to Syria, God willing,
[00:17:08] and through several other countries. Therefore,
[00:17:12] there is a real crisis
[00:17:15] or transferring funds from the Central Bank
[00:17:19] to other countries that are being considered
[00:17:23] for some agreements to supply oil derivatives. I actually
[00:17:25] say in this
[00:17:29] field that the state should
[00:17:32] solve the problem, as the brothers before me
[00:17:35] said. The issue of categories
[00:17:39] is an emergency solution, a solution that will increase the problem
[00:17:43] because it will open another door to corruption,
[00:17:46] and there is no clear vision and clear strategy to control
[00:17:50] the mechanism of its distribution and its mechanism. However, in my personal opinion,
[00:17:53] and this was discussed with some colleagues in the People's Assembly,
[00:17:57] and the discussion was held with the Minister, there should be a role
[00:18:00] for the Ministry of Social Affairs
[00:18:03] pricing to
[00:18:06] study the impact of this pricing
[00:18:10] marginalized groups in the first place or poor groups,
[00:18:14] and support should actually be directly directed to
[00:18:18] poor groups by providing direct support
[00:18:22] to them in other forms, and
[00:18:25] to maintain the price of fuel at an affordable level for
[00:18:29] everyone, especially since it coincides with the rise
[00:18:32] in electricity bills, and we are approaching winter.
[00:18:36] And as you know, this issue has major repercussions on agriculture
[00:18:40] and on transportation and several other issues. We are
[00:18:44] actually in need of a quick
[00:18:46] solution. The People's Assembly session was an attempt
[00:18:50] to understand what is happening and an attempt to influence
[00:18:53] to find a solution and to think with the government, with
[00:18:56] the Ministry of Energy in particular, to find
[00:18:58] a solution that ensures that the matter is easy
[00:19:02] for citizens and that citizens do not bear
[00:19:05] any burden in this stage, the stage of transition from the socialist
[00:19:09] system to the free Syrian economy.
[00:19:13] Well, Mr. Abdul Razzaq, in the context of the statements issued by the Ministry
[00:19:16] of Energy, the Minister stated that a number
[00:19:19] of wells were shut down, and even the Baniyas
[00:19:23] refinery. What are the justifications
[00:19:25] for the shutdown at this particular time, and to what extent will that have
[00:19:29] an impact on the increase in
[00:19:32] oil prices and fuel prices
[00:19:34] as a whole?
[00:19:38] We return and say that wrong
[00:19:41] or improvised or bureaucratic decisions issued at the wrong
[00:19:45] time actually have a very negative impact on the issue of
[00:19:48] fuel, not just fuel, but on the issue of the economy in general.
[00:19:52] Unstudied and improvised decisions,
[00:19:55] like the last decision, a quick and improvised decision, the issue of dividing
[00:19:58] diesel categories, actually has a negative impact
[00:20:02] on the consumer and on the economy in general. But I want to comment
[00:20:05] on the People's Assembly session again.
[00:20:08] What did this session offer? There was a glimmer of hope for the citizen
[00:20:11] that positive decisions or positive solutions would be issued,
[00:20:15] but unfortunately, nothing was issued by the People's Assembly.
[00:20:18] In fact, not even the discussions that took place within the People's Assembly had
[00:20:22] any spark. And in fact, we consider this session to be a kind
[00:20:25] of waste of time.
[00:20:29] And there should be solutions within the Ministry
[00:20:32] of Energy, within the government in general, from
[00:20:35] the concerted efforts
[00:20:37] of all ministers in the government. I do not specifically mention the Minister of Energy.
[00:20:41] The Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Energy, the Ministry of Agriculture, everything
[00:20:44] concerned with this ministry is supposed to intervene to solve this dilemma.
[00:20:48] Impromptu, wrong, bureaucratic, and patching decisions do not bear
[00:20:51] fruit at such a sensitive time for
[00:20:54] citizens. Well, the same point, Mr. Gelo, regarding
[00:20:58] the shutdown of a number of wells and even the Baniyas refineries.
[00:21:01] What does that mean? The discussion today is about rehabilitating these wells at
[00:21:05] this particular stage, and how will it be, or how do you see
[00:21:10] on the ground?
[00:21:12] Now, I told you, in this regard, the Syrian Petroleum Company is
[00:21:16] truly working day and night on
[00:21:20] updating and developing production
[00:21:23] and its organization
[00:21:25] and modernization. All these issues are interconnected.
[00:21:29] The age that the Baniyas refinery is subject
[00:21:33] to, which is
[00:21:35] about 30 years old, is similar
[00:21:39] to the age of these wells. These wells,
[00:21:43] after the state took control of them from
[00:21:46] the Syrian Democratic Forces, after a period
[00:21:50] of receiving them, were in a primitive
[00:21:53] and very destroyed state. Many purification and refining
[00:21:56] stations and the issue of treatment and even the connection
[00:21:59] between gas wells and oil wells, and even
[00:22:03] gas supplies coming from oil wells,
[00:22:07] all these issues are related to their maintenance,
[00:22:10] modernization, organization, and increasing their efficiency.
[00:22:14] This is interconnected. Perhaps it came interconnected
[00:22:17] in
[00:22:29] the discussion as if it is the main and fundamental cause.
[00:22:33] No, not at all, Mr. Dima. I mentioned in my intervention
[00:22:36] last week that the Baniyas refinery
[00:22:40] is concerned with refining light
[00:22:44] oil coming from the Rmeilan fields. Only Rmeilan
[00:22:47] produces oil.
[00:22:50] It is subject to refining in Syria. As for
[00:22:54] the others, Al-Omar and Jabsah, all of them are heavy
[00:22:58] oil that was exported in its poor condition to Lebanon, and from there
[00:23:01] perhaps for local use in Lebanon or even exported,
[00:23:05] but it is difficult to export, cheap, and difficult to refine.
[00:23:08] Perhaps it was refined during certain stages during the Assad regime's era at the Homs
[00:23:12] station, which led to two fires
[00:23:16] and perhaps the last one led to the refinery exploding and something like
[00:23:20] the Beirut port explosion
[00:23:22] in uh, years ago in Lebanon.
[00:23:26] All these issues, I told you, are discussed
[00:23:30] as reasons, but
[00:23:34] this issue. I told you, despite their objectivity,
[00:23:37] the main reason is the governmental approach
[00:23:41] of avoiding the street and dealing with it
[00:23:44] with an economic principle and seeking only financial
[00:23:48] profit, and not that the government
[00:23:51] bears the burden of certain aspects of
[00:23:55] society
[00:23:58] the trust of this society, because the loss
[00:24:02] of money can be compensated, but the loss of trust between the state and society, which
[00:24:05] it represents, is the link
[00:24:09] in prices is also a missing issue. The session was
[00:24:12] like running on a treadmill,
[00:24:16] exhausting in the same place. I mean, we did not reach
[00:24:20] a result. The Minister said, "It is this, this, this,
[00:24:23] this." Even in the Minister's speech, there is a lack
[00:24:26] of transparency regarding the price of Qatari
[00:24:29] gas. I mean, I may not
[00:24:33] be accurate in this, but what I know is that it was
[00:24:36] free, that the gas coming from
[00:24:40] a tanker in Aqaba port. Well, where is this source from the same
[00:24:44] tanker? Let the Syrian citizen know
[00:24:46] the prices and their sources.
[00:24:52] what seems like obfuscation for the citizen is not a successful
[00:24:55] government method or a state method. Well, let me move to
[00:24:59] my guest, civilian leadership, before the time
[00:25:02] runs out. Mr. Yarob, the Minister of Energy said that if the Parliament
[00:25:06] approves the return of the smart card, it is the easiest
[00:25:09] and best solution at this particular stage. Have
[00:25:13] all solutions been exhausted so that we return
[00:25:16] to this solution? Does the
[00:25:19] Ministry no longer have any solutions,
[00:25:23] and do we really resort to the smart card, or what? He
[00:25:27] says anything. I think he doesn't mean the smart
[00:25:33] need a decision from the People's Assembly,
[00:25:38] authority. This
[00:25:41] are now facing a crisis of
[00:25:45] to justify or explain a crisis of this kind. Anything can be said.
[00:25:48] I mean, even the reasons that
[00:25:52] the Minister presents: the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, the rise in oil prices
[00:25:55] globally, and the age of the Baniyas refinery. I mean, now we
[00:25:59] are discussing why it's the right time for maintenance.
[00:26:04] from now, the Strait of Hormuz will have opened, and the Baniyas
[00:26:07] refinery will have finished its maintenance. What will happen? Will
[00:26:11] diesel and gasoline return to a price of, for example,
[00:26:15] 11 or 10? Or I mean, giving
[00:26:18] this, I mean,
[00:26:21] And I believe the problem here is that the problem lies
[00:26:24] here: that the ceiling of expectations for the citizen has been raised
[00:26:28] over a year and a half. It has been
[00:26:39] I mean, I don't think the matter is serious or applicable
[00:26:42] in its form, and what will happen,
[00:26:46] what will actually happen is that three
[00:26:48] types of diesel will enter the market
[00:26:52] and all of them
[00:26:55] will be sold, all of them will be sold
[00:26:59] at the highest price. This is tested. We have tested it in Syria.
[00:27:03] This is tested. There will be something called a black market.
[00:27:07] We will buy bad diesel at a high price.
[00:27:10] This is what will happen on the ground. Thank you, thank you. I thank
[00:27:14] you very much, Yarob Al-Issa, a journalist, who was with us from Damascus.
[00:27:18] Thank you very much, and I thank Dr. Mohammed Al-Bakir, a member of the People's
[00:27:21] Assembly from Damascus, and thanks to Abdul Razzaq Habza, Secretary
[00:27:25] of the Consumer Protection Association in Syria, who was with us from
[00:27:28] Damascus. And I also thank Ammar Gelo, a researcher in the field
[00:27:32] of energy, who was with us from Baniyas. Thank you very much,
[00:27:35] my dear
[00:27:44] of the role of religious leaders in intervention. in public affairs, and do
[00:27:47] their statements align with the approach of the Ministry of Endowments? Join us.
[00:28:10] country,
[00:28:15] there is a story worth telling,
[00:28:18] and perhaps you are the first to tell it. First,
[00:28:21] we, at Syria
[00:28:25] TV, are launching the
[00:28:28] People's Camera. Document, send,
[00:28:32] and be a contributing part of making the news.
[00:28:36] The people in the People's Camera, your lens,
[00:28:40] makes the news.
[00:28:51] We are sitting inside and someone is being tortured here, we cry over them,
[00:28:55] and we hear the pain of the bones that are
[00:28:56] breaking.
[00:29:05] Every blanket I smell, I feel that there is blood mixed
[00:29:09] with the smell of humans.
[00:29:13] When they call our names for torture, you actually don't know if you will come back alive or
[00:29:17] dead.
[00:29:23] I remember hearing the grey hairs cracking
[00:29:25] in my head.
[00:29:30] The soul that is tortured does not go away.
[00:30:36] Some religious figures criticized in their statements, and others in
[00:30:40] Friday sermons, activities held under official government patronage.
[00:30:43] Others called for a boycott of those activities
[00:30:47] and directed accusations against those in charge of them. So what are the limits of the role of
[00:30:50] religious figures in interfering in public affairs, and do
[00:30:54] their statements align with the directives of the Ministry
[00:30:58] issue, Dr. joins us.